Hoping they do, and there are decent trade-in values as well. This OnePlus 9Pro should cover a majority of a P6P 256gb model to make the transition easy. First time Pixel buyer trying to get off the OnePlus train after 4 models.
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Hoping they do, and there are decent trade-in values as well. This OnePlus 9Pro should cover a majority of a P6P 256gb model to make the transition easy. First time Pixel buyer trying to get off the OnePlus train after 4 models.
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Agree, that makes two of us in the same T-Mobile/OnePlus 9 Pro boat!
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Hoping they do, and there are decent trade-in values as well. This OnePlus 9Pro should cover a majority of a P6P 256gb model to make the transition easy. First time Pixel buyer trying to get off the OnePlus train after 4 models.
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I'm in the same bout. Il be treating my 9p as well. It was a true disappointment, especially in the batty department
Stopped by a local store today, they will definitely stock the devices. They estimated the deals (Trade-in or other) would be available to store employees on Thursday evening or Friday morning.
So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?
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So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?
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Yep, they will.
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Yes, it should be bloated big time....
Saw the preorder availability on the T-Mobile site. Can't decide if I want to just order unlocked from Google or go thru TMobile. This is the hardest decision!
If you look at the news postings you will find an article on where to get the best deals on the Pixel 6. It has links to T-mobile's site, so I guess it is already up. There are some deals available, with Magenta Max IIRC. It also can be bought from Best Buy (unlocked) and of course Google (free Bose earbuds).
I don't want any phone that doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. While there may be great deals on the 6 from T-mobile I simply wouldn't put up with the crapware that is included, as well as the poor after sale firmware support. It seems to me one of the best reasons for a Pixel is to get regular security and OS updates direct from Google, when first released. It may be that the TM 6 can get security updates direct from Google - I don't know as that has been developing. And there may be a way to unlock the bootloader, which would allow installing a North American unlocked firmware. But if not both then I would buy direct. FWIW I just bought a 5a from Google and am downloading 12 right now.
I'll probably JOD! my 4a 5G for the Pixel 6 as I have the Pixel 6 Pro on pre-order from Google.
What colorway are people most interested in?
Ended up buying the black 256GB from Google directly after seeing my OnePlus 9 Pro wasn't even listed on the trade-in deals and even if it was I'm not changing my plan just for that. Not to mention they are only stocking the 128GB.
People need to be careful where they're ordering from as there is currently a lot of confusion with the 5g bands for the 6 pro. The google support page shows sub-6 missing but according to the Cnet article below most of the other carriers have confirmed that their version will have all the 5g bands that they'll be selling. I've decided to hold off until t-mobile clarifies what their 6 pro will cover compared to the unlocked version before I pull the trigger.
Will Google's Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro work with 5G? The answer is complicated
Google's new Pixel phones have a lot of promise, but also plenty of unanswered questions about 5G support.
www.cnet.com
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People need to be careful where they're ordering from as there is currently a lot of confusion with the 5g bands for the 6 pro. The google support page shows sub-6 missing but according to the Cnet article below most of the other carriers have confirmed that their version will have all the 5g bands that they'll be selling. I've decided to hold off until t-mobile clarifies what their 6 pro will cover compared to the unlocked version before I pull the trigger.
Will Google's Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro work with 5G? The answer is complicated
Google's new Pixel phones have a lot of promise, but also plenty of unanswered questions about 5G support.
www.cnet.com
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This is a non-issue. That page merely omitted the listed of sub-6. Here is a snippet from another Google support page showing what is covered by model. There won't be a new phone like this released without 5G compatibility as it would make no sense, especially given newer modems cover almost all the required bands without any add-on's other than mmWave. Here is the page and shows carrier by carrier compatability:
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So buying at Tmobile store, will they add all their spam and crap as opposed to buying unlocked ?
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Just curious...I've been buying my Pixels directly from Google for convenience, because I always prefer max internal storage and carriers don't always offer those.
This year, I wanted to make sure I got the 512 GB model.
Back in 2014, TMobile was running one of those promos where they offered to buy out your contract if you tried them out. They also had the Nexus 6 available for sale, so I decided to give them a shot.
At the time, the Nexus 6 was in high demand, and Tmobile shipped mine the next day. They also tweeted that their Nexus didn't come with all that carrier bloat, poking fun at AT&T.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/536580024997249024
From what I remember, my Tmobile Nexus 6 64 GB was identical to ones shipped from Google.
I am a Sprint/Tmobile customer and have considered buying through my carrier to get a better deal, but go through Google to insure it is bootloader unlockable and unbloated.
Question: Does Tmobile add bloat/carrier apps to most of their Android devices?
I was just curious because of their stance on the Nexus 6 in 2014, but, of course that was 7 years ago and things change.
The (unlocked) 5a works fine on T-Mobile 5G. It does not support mmWave but that is not very useful for mobile applications anyway (mmWave doesn't have much range and doesn't penetrate walls well). If you are buying a MiFi then you would want mmWave if there is a tower close by. What you are losing is that you won't get the extremely high bandwidth when using the phone as a hotspot, but since there are only a handful of cities with this band available that is more theoretical at this point. BTW I am getting better 5G coverage than 4G LTE in my marina - TM put 5G on a nearby tower that they hadn't been using before. TM 5G is widely available, although not really much faster than 4G LTE.
Even if TM doesn't add bloatware (I'm not sure) it is still locked and probably not going to get the updates as often as the unlocked phone. Google has been working on bypassing the networks and directly upgrading phones but don't know if we are there yet.
Tmo is only carrying the 128gb variant...I pre-ordered the unlocked version from Google.
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Just curious...I've been buying my Pixels directly from Google for convenience, because I always prefer max internal storage.
I am a Sprint/Tmobile customer and have considered buying through my carrier to get a better deal, but go through Google to insure it is bootloader unlockable and unbloated.
Question: Does Tmobile add bloat/carrier apps to most of their Android devices?
I was just curious because of their stance on the Nexus 6 in 2014, but, of course that was 7 years ago and things change.
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As you stated, that was then, when John Legere was just beginning the "Uncarrier" hype. I enjoyed the ride, but, now that the ultimate goal has been achieved (merger/acquisition), T-Mobile has been gradually backsliding, the Uncarrier has one foot out the door.
Count on T-Mobile bloatware being pre-installed & not all of it can be uninstalled &/or disabled.
The T-Mobile system apk for diagnostics can have the permissions denied, but, it's the one apk that can't be disabled, even w/an ADB command, or, app freezer.
If you're wanting to root/ROM, I'd steer clear of the T-Mobile branded Pixel 6/Pro.
If T-Mobile Pixels can be converted to US unlocked models (for development), it's news to me...........
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If T-Mobile Pixels can be converted to US unlocked models (for development), it's news to me...........
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I suspect that a TMO 5a or 6xxx can be flashed with the U.S. unlocked firmware, after having been SIM unlocked and then bootloader unlocked. But until someone does it I would consider this a risky proposition, and not worth doing considering that it is easy to buy an unlocked pixel and we know how to root it.
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I suspect that a TMO 5a or 6xxx can be flashed with the U.S. unlocked firmware, after having been SIM unlocked and then bootloader unlocked. But until someone does it I would consider this a risky proposition, and not worth doing considering that it is easy to buy an unlocked pixel and we know how to root it.
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I hope so. I'm getting the T-Mobile Pixel 6 Pro.
We'll know soon enough, I'll definitely be following this thread & any how-to threads for B/L unlocking.
It's not a deal breaker for me, but, definitely prefer the option to flash unlocked firmware, akin to doing the same w/T-Mobile OnePlus devices........
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I hope so. I'm getting the T-Mobile Pixel 6 Pro.
We'll know soon enough, I'll definitely be following this thread & any how-to threads for B/L unlocking.
It's not a deal breaker for me, but, definitely prefer the option to flash unlocked firmware, akin to doing the same w/T-Mobile OnePlus devices........
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As you stated, that was then, when John Legere was just beginning the "Uncarrier" hype. I enjoyed the ride, but, now that the ultimate goal has been achieved (merger/acquisition), T-Mobile has been gradually backsliding, the Uncarrier has one foot out the door.
Count on T-Mobile bloatware being pre-installed & not all of it can be uninstalled &/or disabled.
The T-Mobile system apk for diagnostics can have the permissions denied, but, it's the one apk that can't be disabled, even w/an ADB command, or, app freezer.
If you're wanting to root/ROM, I'd steer clear of the T-Mobile branded Pixel 6/Pro.
If T-Mobile Pixels can be converted to US unlocked models (for development), it's news to me...........
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Thanks for posting and confirming what I was already suspecting. 7 years ago, Tmobile was the dark horse that was working to be seen as a legitimate alternative to the big 3. Former Sprint execs have even admitted they didn't consider T-Mobile to be true competition, compared to Verizon and AT&T.
I can't complain too much. I've have some Tmobile stock that has appreciated quite nicely over the years, and the old "uncarrier" initiatives and increased competition forced carriers like Verizon to allow 3rd-pary unlocked devices to run on their network, yet Tmobile Tuesday "gifts" are also not nearly as generous.
Hoping you can clarify something you mentioned earlier. You said Tmobile phones come with a diagnostic app that can't be removed or disabled. Does that mean that you could use the phone on Verizon/AT&T and still have a Tmobile app unable to be uninstalled, potentially collecting data?
I'm assuming if the the bootloader can be unlocked and rooted that any app can be disabled, but, as you stated, having a Tmobile variant no longer guarantees unbranding and bootloader unlockability.
Some people don't differentiate between whether a phone can be sim unlocked (to use on different carriers) or bootloader unlocked (to root or run custom firmware). That's not a huge deal for most people, but it gives me pause if I was buying a device on the secondary market, like Swappa.
The only way for a buyer to be sure they are getting a bootloader unlockable device is to ask the buyer where they purchased it from. To be fair, Androiid is more polished and no loner requires root to copy and paste or take screen shots, but I still like having the extra freedom and control to install my own updates.
In the future, if Tmobile ever gets all variants of the Pixel, including the 512 GB or 1 TB versions, with fantastic trade-in offers, it may make my decision more difficult, but I like being able to buy my devices directly from the manufacturers, especially for warranty situations, and use the carriers specifically for phone service.
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any luck with unlocking T-Mobile OnePlus 7 t without being paid off like the 6t was i know it will be in time
After 3 quick phone calls with T-Mobile support, I just got them to override the permanent unlock for my newly purchased T-Mobile OnePlus 7T. I'm on the Jump plan and got them to do the same thing for my OnePlus 6T last year, but this time they processed the override for me much quicker and easier. Now to send the unlock request to OnePlus.
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After 3 quick phone calls with T-Mobile support, I just got them to override the permanent unlock for my newly purchased T-Mobile OnePlus 7T. I'm on the Jump plan and got them to do the same thing for my OnePlus 6T last year, but this time they processed the override for me much quicker and easier. Now to send the unlock request to OnePlus.
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I never had any luck with getting them to unlock my 6t. I must not have said the magic words
I was actually pretty honest with them and told them I've been unlocking the bootloader, rooting my device, and using custom ROMs on my devices for 9 years, and part of why I purchased a OnePlus device was so I could continue to do that. Not having the ability to do that would severely impair my experience with the device, so I really needed that done. It can take a few calls, but shouldn't be too terrible.
i had no luck calling with 7pro i had to offer 200.00
Heck, I paid full price for my 7t from tmo and am still awaiting them to unlock it.
Same here.. bought outright. Is there a time limit before unlocking?
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Same here.. bought outright. Is there a time limit before unlocking?
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Supposed to be 40 days but they can override it. My tmo 7t is financed and only 3 days old but they sim unlocked it for me and now have 6 days left for the unlock code from OP so I can actually unlock the boot and root
Just call them and be honest. Say you bought the OnePlus because it's notoriously developer-friendly nature and would like to be able to unlock your bootloader. they will transfer you to a technical support specialist and will whitelist your phone for Sim unlocking on the spot go to your settings app and do a permanent unlock and it will work reboot and OEM unlocking will be available
And also call at night, it easier with the philipino customer service.
Even if they mention that they will have to send an unlock code email, let em do it and call back the next day and tell them that the rep didnt know you have to use the unlock app, not a code
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And also call at night, it easier with the philipino customer service.
Even if they mention that they will have to send an unlock code email, let em do it and call back the next day and tell them that the rep didnt know you have to use the unlock app, not a code
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for me it was just as simple as the guy talking to me initally being confused and transferring me.
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for me it was just as simple as the guy talking to me initally being confused and transferring me.
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Did you received your unlock.bin already? Just got mine unlock today after 2 calls and 2 chats, last chat she help me out. Just told them I would like to tinker with the phone consistently
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After 3 quick phone calls with T-Mobile support, I just got them to override the permanent unlock for my newly purchased T-Mobile OnePlus 7T. I'm on the Jump plan and got them to do the same thing for my OnePlus 6T last year, but this time they processed the override for me much quicker and easier. Now to send the unlock request to OnePlus.
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Got your unlock.bin already?
Yes, but useless now. I returned the device because they announced the 7T Pro McLaren 5G is actually coming to T-Mobile after all. Now just waiting for the actual release date.
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Yes, but useless now. I returned the device because they announced the 7T Pro McLaren 5G is actually coming to T-Mobile after all. Now just waiting for the actual release date.
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I don't think that the McLaren 5G will ever be able to be converted. There is no international McLaren 5G software to convert to. I'm considering the device as well, but I have to decide if I'm willing to be stuck on T-Mobile software for the life of the device
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I don't think that the McLaren 5G will ever be able to be converted. There is no international McLaren 5G software to convert to. I'm considering the device as well, but I have to decide if I'm willing to be stuck on T-Mobile software for the life of the device
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Good point. I can probably live with it as long as I can still unlock it and get root access. Who knows, maybe OnePlus will release an international 5G variant as well after all. They claimed they weren't releasing the Pro in the US or any 5G variant at all, then 2 weeks later they announce that variant for T-Mobile, so nothing would surprise me now.
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Yes, but useless now. I returned the device because they announced the 7T Pro McLaren 5G is actually coming to T-Mobile after all. Now just waiting for the actual release date.
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I used to have the 7PRO and returned it, don't like curved screen the MClaren is same thing=) it's just me
5g won't be very fast or any more useful than lte until mid 2020ish anyway. At least on TMobile cause Snapdragon maker said they won't support either MM wave or 600mhz for 5g for a while still. I don't remember which one
So be happy with that you got unless you want that 12gb ram
My unlock bin file arrives on the 2nd cause that will be 7 days
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5g won't be very fast or any more useful than lte until mid 2020ish anyway. At least on TMobile cause Snapdragon maker said they won't support either MM wave or 600mhz for 5g for a while still. I don't remember which one
So be happy with that you got unless you want that 12gb ram
My unlock bin file arrives on the 2nd cause that will be 7 days
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I'm located in NY where there's been decent 5G rollout already, but 4G has terrible building penetration, so hoping that 5G helps with that. Parts of my office are virtual deadzones, yet I work across the street from Carnegie Hall, so not a dead zone you would expect. The 5G element unfortunately was a major factor for me, but I have heard mixed reviews on the curved screen.
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I'm located in NY where there's been decent 5G rollout already, but 4G has terrible building penetration, so hoping that 5G helps with that. Parts of my office are virtual deadzones, yet I work across the street from Carnegie Hall, so not a dead zone you would expect. The 5G element unfortunately was a major factor for me, but I have heard mixed reviews on the curved screen.
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I have seen the 5g map for new York so I can understand. I live in Dallas and it's only in like 6 streets lol
I had the s6 and hated the curved screen with a passion so I highly recommend trying one out and asking around.
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I'm located in NY where there's been decent 5G rollout already, but 4G has terrible building penetration, so hoping that 5G helps with that. Parts of my office are virtual deadzones, yet I work across the street from Carnegie Hall, so not a dead zone you would expect. The 5G element unfortunately was a major factor for me, but I have heard mixed reviews on the curved screen.
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Tmo will be using band71 for 5g. So without band 71 in NYC at the current time, it won't be any better. Band 71 is out on li, and definitely better for indoor penetration.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...promotion-20181111.promoteWysiwyg_501597637.3
Hopefully this will entice developers to buy the phone and develop more ROMs and kernels for it. $440 is really cheap and to me, it's like a flagship killer all over again.
Only difference is in LTE bands between global and China/Indian variants
Of course it's cheaper in China!
also bought the China variant a week ago from a local seller, everything comes to around 490, dirt cheap for what it is
It looks to be even cheaper at $379 usd once you add the coupons. That is a hell of a deal.
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It looks to be even cheaper at $379 usd once you add the coupons. That is a hell of a deal.
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The coupons are unfortunately a dime a dozen.
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The coupons are unfortunately a dime a dozen.
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Why is it unfortunate if you have unlimited coupons? Sounds good to me.
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Why is it unfortunate if you have unlimited coupons? Sounds good to me.
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Where did you get the coupon? Thanks
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Where did you get the coupon? Thanks
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When you click on the link you'll see it.
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Here's the missing bands from this Asian variant of the 7T, along with carrier-use listings:
B25 (1900+):
Sprint - partial use
B32 (1500):
None
B66 (1700/2100):
AT&T - in use
C Spire - in use
T-Mobile - in use
U.S. Cellular - in use
Verizon - in use
Source:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/oneplus-7t,oneplus-7t-cn-in
Personally, I wouldn't touch this variant if I lived in the US. Verizon picked up B66 back in 2015 and has been aggressively rolling it (AWS3-4) out across the US, see this FCC map: https://tinyurl.com/b66map
Yes, I'm aware B66 is a superset of B4... but with CDMA shutting down by the end of the year, this band is clearly core to VZW and other networks (along with B13 LTE backbone). If you buy this Asian variant, you might be missing out on boosted download speeds in various markets. Will it work, yes. Fastest speeds everywhere, no.
Good to know...
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Here's the missing bands from this Asian variant of the 7t with carrier listings:
B25 (1900+):
Sprint - partial use
B32 (1500):
None
B66 (1700/2100):
AT&T - in use
C Spire - in use
T-Mobile - in use
U.S. Cellular - in use
Verizon - in use
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https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/oneplus-7t,oneplus-7t-cn-in
Personally, I wouldn't touch this variant if I lived in the US. Verizon picked up B66 back in 2015 and has been aggressively rolling it (AWS3) out across the US, see this FCC map: https://tinyurl.com/b66map
Yes, I'm aware B66 is a superset of B4... but with CDMA shutting down by the end of the year, this band is clearly core to VZW and other networks. If you buy this Asian variant, you're going to be severely hamstrung throughout the US.
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I read on Reddit that the Chinese version works fine on VZW as along as you have them provision it as a "non-CDMA" device on their network. I hope this is accurate because I have two of the 8GB/256GB CN variants in-bound to me in the US and I only use Verizon.
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I read on Reddit that the Chinese version works fine on VZW as along as you have them provision it as a "non-CDMA" device on their network. I hope this is accurate because I have two of the 8GB/256GB CN variants in-bound to me in the US and I only use Verizon.
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No, the correct provisioning is "CDMA-Less" and you also need to confirm you have "HD Voice" for the phone to work. Wouldn't hurt to also ask them to remove the "LVC-Block" that gets added automatically when they populate your IMEI number (for Video Calling).
The phones WILL technically work as they support the Band 4 subset... but you wont be able to benefit from any of the latest Band 66 coverage that Verizon has been adding over the recent year, most of which is to boost download speeds (B66 is unpaired/asymmetric, with more allocated to downlinks).
Take a look on this page. The Chinese variants are lacking Band 66... so they won't connect to VZW via AWS-3 Blocks G-J or anything on AWS-4.
https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570
Bottom line, yes, you will get a connection... you just won't get the best connection.
EDIT: On a good note, unlike any Pixels... you will be able to activate both nano SIMs on Verizon. The 7T, along with the 6T, are one of the few Android DSDS phones that are whitelisted on VZW's "Open Development" platform. After carrying 2 phones around for over 10 years... I now have both lines one one device. Joy!
skelzer said:
Here's the missing bands from this Asian variant of the 7T, along with carrier-use listings:
B25 (1900+):
Sprint - partial use
B32 (1500):
None
B66 (1700/2100):
AT&T - in use
C Spire - in use
T-Mobile - in use
U.S. Cellular - in use
Verizon - in use
Source:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/oneplus-7t,oneplus-7t-cn-in
Personally, I wouldn't touch this variant if I lived in the US. Verizon picked up B66 back in 2015 and has been aggressively rolling it (AWS3-4) out across the US, see this FCC map: https://tinyurl.com/b66map
Yes, I'm aware B66 is a superset of B4... but with CDMA shutting down by the end of the year, this band is clearly core to VZW and other networks (along with B13 LTE backbone). If you buy this Asian variant, you might be missing out on boosted download speeds in various markets. Will it work, yes. Fastest speeds everywhere, no.
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Won't work on Sprint they will not whitelist the IMEI
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Won't work on Sprint they will not whitelist the IMEI
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Yeah, that's cause Band 25 is their backbone... makes sense.
New to one plus phones. I'm on verizon in the US but I'm unsure what phone to purchase. I want the 7t phone at the best price. I'm currently using a ancient galaxy s5 rooted/unlocked. Asked verizon about the oneplus and they wouldn't guarantee that it would work. they Really tried to push Samsung and pixel 4. I just want to ensure the oneplus I purchase will be compatible with verizon. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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New to one plus phones. I'm on verizon in the US but I'm unsure what phone to purchase. I want the 7t phone at the best price. I'm currently using a ancient galaxy s5 rooted/unlocked. Asked verizon about the oneplus and they wouldn't guarantee that it would work. they Really tried to push Samsung and pixel 4. I just want to ensure the oneplus I purchase will be compatible with verizon. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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No problem, happy to help. I've been on Verizon for 20+ and recently owned the 3 pixel xls.... I ordered the Pixel 4 XL then returned it. Bought the 7T direct from OnePlus and couldn't be happier. Newer tech, less annoyance... plus you save a LOT of $$.
When you get the phone, call VZW and ask for a Tier 2 tech. Then tell them you want add/remove the provisioning I listed in a previous post ^^^.
Here's the link to the phone... whatever you do, don't buy the other variants found on other sites :
https://www.oneplus.com/oneplus-7t?from=7t
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No problem, happy to help. I've been on Verizon for 20+ and recently owned the 3 pixel xls.... I ordered the Pixel 4 XL then returned it. Bought the 7T direct from OnePlus and couldn't be happier. Newer tech, less annoyance... plus you save a LOT of $$.
When you get the phone, call VZW and ask for a Tier 2 tech. Then tell them you want add/remove the provisioning I listed in a previous post ^^^.
Here's the link to the phone... whatever you do, don't buy the other variants found on other sites :
https://www.oneplus.com/oneplus-7t?from=7t
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That's what I was wondering. The other variants seemed cheaper but I questioned it. Not sure what you mean by provisioning. I read the posts but it's all new to me. Also can I get the 7t with 256 or is it just the 8/128.
For the US version, you can only get the 8/128 on that page. There is "technically" a 256 US version that was in the works but the codename never made it out and it didn't go to market. Same as a Gold color for Asian markets...
So to clarify, here's all the 7T variants:
Global / International / Asian / Chinese - missing US bands, available as both 128 and 256 <--- DON'T GET THIS
US T-Mobile - available as 128, locked bootloader <--- DON'T GET THIS
US Unlocked - available as 128, unlocked bootloader <-- YES, GET THIS
Here's some clarification on the provisioning. Simple version is these are the features that are added and/or removed from your account based on your subscription choices and hardware support. Premium Visual Voicemail, for example, costs $2.99 per month. When you choose to add this to your phone, VZW "provisions" your account to add support for the feature. There's also provisioning that's required to support iOS devices... or LTE... or WiFi Calling, etc. So although the 7T has been whitelisted (link) and can be activated on VZW, some of the provisioning isn't automatic and you'll need a quick call to Tier 2 support to get all the phone features working.
Here's the steps. First, if you're moving from an iPhone... there's a small chance things can get hairy when/if you're planning to use Dual SIM (two discrete phone lines). If you are, let me know, I'll add some details. If you don't plan to activate two lines, then here's the easiest path coming from an iPhone:
1) turn off iMessage on your iPhone (very easy, google it).
2) not required... but if you can, it actually makes life easier if you first transfer your line to an old Android LTE device. This can be done online and doesn't cost anything. What this does is push some provisioning to your account that sticks around when you then activate the 7T. If you're already on Android, you can skip these two first steps.
3) then call VZW, ask for a Tier 2 tech to activate the 7T.
4) confirm "CDMA-Less" provisioning has been added.
5) confirm "HD Voice" provisioning has been added.
6) Optional... but you can also ask them to remove the "LVC-Block" provisioning that gets added automatically when they populate your IMEI number (for Video Calling).
All set. The only item that isn't working yet is Premium Visual Voicemail (transcribed to text). Visual Voicemail works. Also, if you know how to do it, you can activate RCS messaging.
I think that's about it... good luck!
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For the US version, you can only get the 8/128 on that page. There is "technically" a 256 US version that was in the works but the codename never made it out and it didn't go to market. Same as a Gold color for Asian markets...
So to clarify, here's all the 7T variants:
Global / International / Asian / Chinese - missing US bands, available as both 128 and 256 <--- DON'T GET THIS
US T-Mobile - available as 128, locked bootloader <--- DON'T GET THIS
US Unlocked - available as 128, unlocked bootloader <-- YES, GET THIS
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You are awsome. Thanks for the info. I'm gun shy on this purchase. I've used galaxy s5 since it came out and know it inside and out. Will the 7t have the options for root/unlocked BL/TWRP and custom roms? Are there any accessories I need for this phone. Sorry about all my questions/apprehension. Think I'm going to do it.
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You are awsome. Thanks for the info. I'm gun shy on this purchase. I've used galaxy s5 since it came out and know it inside and out. Will the 7t have the options for root/unlocked BL/TWRP and custom roms? Are there any accessories I need for this phone. Sorry about all my questions/apprehension. Think I'm going to do it.
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Trust me, sounds like we've both been on the same path... I had the s5 long ago. Yes, this phone can be unlocked and you can install custom roms. Here's the kicker, unlike all of our previous phones, the OnePlus actually grew out of the custom ROM community. Their first phone, the OnePlus One shipped with the Cyanogen OS operating system pre-installed, a commercial variant of CyanogenMod. It's grown up a bit since then... and today it's on OxygenOS, which is pretty much a clean version of Android with some additional features added. Bottom line, this phone feels less-bloated and constricting than ANY of my previous Androids, including the Pixels and Nexus'. Everything is available and Oxygen OS adds some awesome features I've never before seen on a phone.
Once you are up and running, make sure to check these apps out... they'll help to keep you plugged in and backed up when updates go wild:
Oxygen Updater
OnePlus Community (Beta)
OnePlus Switch (Beta)
PS I edited and added some additional info to my previous post... be sure to re-read.
Edit. Forgot to add... yes, definitely get the case and glass screen protector in this bundle:
https://www.oneplus.com/product/oneplus-7t-keep-it-safe-bundle
Quality and fit of both accessories was a HUGE surprise. I've never had such a high grade glass protector that feels like butter... in ALL my years. And the case has a sandstone texture to it that both looks awesome and helps with grip. Everything else is optional... but I also got a second Warp charger/cable (this is a proprietary charging protocol that is way faster than others). Everything else can be purchased elsewhere.
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CAUTION!!! Just had my first experience with OnePlus After-sales Support via chat... HORRENDOUS! I was crazy enough to buy 2x of these screen protectors for $59.98 last month. Yesterday, my first cracked so I just opened the second package. I did all the right steps... after installing it, I noticed the top right corner wouldn't stick. Upon inspection, I could see that about 1x1.5cm of the corner was missing the sticker layer that adheres the glass to the phone. I won't walk through my experience step-by-step... but here's some high points. First rep, Lucy Francis, told me that I was supposed to notify them of the defect BEFORE opening the package (wow, that makes a lot of sense!?). She then continued to blame me for the defect and eventually disconnected the chat, dropping my connection. The second rep, Ethan Maximus, went back to the same flawed logic with "As per policy, the defect or damage should be reported within 72 hours of purchase." It took me 15 minutes to walk them through the fact that I bought TWO and that there's no way to discover the second was defective UNTIL IT WAS INSTALLED. Bottom line, considering the exceptional premium you pay for OnePlus accessories, I was expecting at-par support as minimum. This was excruciating!!! The reps are stuck on their scripts and do whatever they can to avoid ANY costs on their end. Never again, neither the phone, nor their accessories. This is easily the worst, most illogical support experience I've had in 15 years. My updated recommendation --> AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS!
PM me if you want a copy of the chat log.
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If you really want to go the distance with the case I listed above... add these two skins to it:
https://dbrand.com/shop/oneplus-7t-skins
Here's selections:
Back - (don't select anything as you're using the case)
Camera - Black Swarm for $1.95
Logo - Orange for $0.95
Shipping will cost more than the skin parts... and although they don't mention it, dbrand will actually send you two of each item. Here's a pic that's close to the final result, note that you're applying the logo sticker to the sandstone case, so it'll look a bit more matte (matches XDA, not by accident):
https://prnt.sc/q5ckgf
Enjoy!
I have read that there is no difference between the China (HydrogenOS) vs the International (OxygenOS) variant, in terms of hardware. Does that mean putting OxygenOS on the Chinese variant will be able to use same network bands as the International variant?
I think I am reading it correctly that the unlocked model will not support Verizon mmwave but it should work fine with their other 5g services. I'm not near any of the large cities that use that anyway, so it is no big deal. I am tired of having a locked phone. I haven't kept up with everything in a few years. Can the bootloaders be unlocked and the device be rooted on the unlocked versions? Sorry it is a dumb question but I have been on Verizon Samsung phones for a few years.
We really don't know officially yet, since it has a new CPU chip set until we get our hands on it....
But, usually Google wouldn't block Unlocking the BL.
I'll let you know, I'm kind of perpetually stuck ordering from Verizon because I get so many device dollars from my Fios account. Not really too concerned about unlocking but I'll check for you.
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I think I am reading it correctly that the unlocked model will not support Verizon mmwave but it should work fine with their other 5g services. I'm not near any of the large cities that use that anyway, so it is no big deal. I am tired of having a locked phone. I haven't kept up with everything in a few years. Can the bootloaders be unlocked and the device be rooted on the unlocked versions? Sorry it is a dumb question but I have been on Verizon Samsung phones for a few years.
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That's impossible. There won't be a Google device that doesn't support mmWave sold in the US. As for bootloader unlockable as long as you don't get the Verizon model from Google you can unlock it. Not sure what 3rd party retailers are doing. Stepping a little out on a limb here but I'll stick by it unless proven otherwise.
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That's impossible. There won't be a Google device that doesn't support mmWave sold in the US. As for bootloader unlockable as long as you don't get the Verizon model from Google you can unlock it. Not sure what 3rd party retailers are doing. Stepping a little out on a limb here but I'll stick by it unless proven otherwise.
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From Google store: Unlocked Pixel is not compatible with millimeter wave (mmWave) networks. See g.co/pixel/networkinfo.
I don't understand. In the chart it says it does work.
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That's impossible. There won't be a Google device that doesn't support mmWave sold in the US. As for bootloader unlockable as long as you don't get the Verizon model from Google you can unlock it. Not sure what 3rd party retailers are doing. Stepping a little out on a limb here but I'll stick by it unless proven otherwise.
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on the google site there is an option for the verizon specific one. maybe they did that because verizon will only let their mmwave work on the pixel if it has a locked bootloader? wouldnt be out of the realm for verizon. the unlocked option on google site says works with the 3 major carriers.
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on the google site there is an option for the verizon specific one. maybe they did that because verizon will only let their mmwave work on the pixel if it has a locked bootloader? wouldnt be out of the realm for verizon. the unlocked option on google site says works with the 3 major carriers.
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No, that is not the case. Google sells the Verizon model for some reason unbeknownst to me but likely financial. Last year for the Pixel 5 they did the same thing. The Verizon model has different promos attached and you can buy it on your Verizon account without further credit checks and over a period of 24 months rolled into your monthly bill. But you cannot unlock the bootloader in that version, on the Fi and Unlocked version you can.
As for mmWave, every single Pixel device sold in the US is capable. Naturally it depends if your carrier supports it but if they do then you have it. The unlocked P6, or any P6 sold in the states will work on 8 carriers that support mmWave according to what I'm seeing. The locked bootloader on the Verizon device sold by Google is a horse of another color and has nothing to do with 5G capabilities. I am on Verizon but have bought the last 4 Pixels from Google and they all work as if I bought them directly from Verizon. Well... other than the fact I can bl unlock them and the 3a eSim fiasco on the VZW model.
I have read 5 websites including Google and mass confusion reigns. So I might be wrong and I might be right. Here's a link to the one that at least says no one knows wtf is going on. I still think all US versions will be mmWave capable but then there is the sub 5g and UWB thrown into the mix. What a mess. Suffice it to say I will never buy a Verizon branded device so they better sort this out before they ship.
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I have read 5 websites including Google and mass confusion reigns. So I might be wrong and I might be right. Here's a link to the one that at least says no one knows wtf is going on. I still think all US versions will be mmWave capable but then there is the sub 5g and UWB thrown into the mix. What a mess. Suffice it to say I will never buy a Verizon branded device so they better sort this out before they ship.
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Damn I pre-ordered from their website and bought the unlocked version. From my research, it looks like phones bought unlocked from Google will be blocked from using network specific mmWave. If this is the case, I am returning this ****. Really, Google just had to find a way to fudge up a good phone.
From what I understand:
All Pixel 6 Pro in the US support Sub6 + mmWave, (Whether a carrier allows access on unlocked models is unclear)
Regular Pixel 6 is Sub6 Only except for the Verizon variant which adds mmWave.
This has never been an issue on Unlocked Samsung models. Each variant has a different SKU and it'd be interesting to find out if it's a different modem entirely or just software optimizations.
My only concern with the Verizon version is that it may not be bootloader unlockable.
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Damn I pre-ordered from their website and bought the unlocked version. From my research, it looks like phones bought unlocked from Google will be blocked from using network specific mmWave. If this is the case, I am returning this ****. Really, Google just had to find a way to fudge up a good phone.
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Think it depends on the carrier really. I know this is Samsung and not Google but my unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G is able to use Verizon mmWave. I used it on Fremont Street in Vegas the speed was insane. I don't see why Verizon would block the Pixel 6 if other unlocked phones can use it but I guess these things can happen. In my case I don't really live anywhere near any mmWave areas so it doesn't matter to me as much if I can't use it.
This is what I am seeing on the google store.
3See g.co/pixel/specs for device configuration and capability. Contact carrier for details. 5G service is carrier dependent. Unlocked Pixel is not compatible with millimeter wave (mmWave) networks. See g.co/pixel/networkinfo.
What a pain. Couldn't get through yesterday to order and out of stock today. What a bummer.
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What a pain. Couldn't get through yesterday to order and out of stock today. What a bummer.
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Yeah it was an absolute **** show. I was fortunate and got a 512gb after literally 3 hours of non-stop trying. Hope they re-stock soon for you! I've never had issues like this the last few years pre-ordering Samsung devices.
The Verizon Pixel 6 Pro and Unlocked 6 Pro both listed the same supported bands, despite having a different SKU. When Google notes that the Pixel does not support mmWave, I think they're referring to the regular unlocked Pixel 6, not the Pro.
So... do I buy unlocked, which is what I prefer to do, even though I have not unlocked a bootloader in years, or do I buy Verizon, which I must use because of coverage where I live, to ensure compatibility 100%?
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So... do I buy unlocked, which is what I prefer to do, even though I have not unlocked a bootloader in years, or do I buy Verizon, which I must use because of coverage where I live, to ensure compatibility 100%?
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Was the pixel 5 verizon bootloader unlockable?? Maybe someone will have a way to unlock the verizon bootloader in the near future?
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Was the pixel 5 verizon bootloader unlockable?? Maybe someone will have a way to unlock the verizon bootloader in the near future?
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I am just getting the unlocked version. If it is an issue, I may either switch back to AT&T with my microcell (yes, I still have an AT&T microcell because wifi calling sucks) or sell the unlocked and get the Verizon. I used to be big into custom roms and unlocking bootloaders, but things are to the point where the need just is not there anymore on most phones. Except Samsung and all its bloatware. (sorry, I had to get that dig in!)
im unlocking BL .. as soon as the guide is available. then flash Verizon Factory Image. i should be good to go with (mmWave)
Pre ordered unlocked version.
I've been unlocking and modding my phones since the OG Droid. Originally I would flash ROMs all the time, but Android has evolved so much that now I just unlock for dark mode and ad blocking. Now that dark mode is baked in all I need is the ad blocking. I also want to use my banking apps and Google Pay. So, for the first time in many years, I ordered the Verizon model from Google. I'll see if it's unlockable. If it isn't, no big deal. If it is, I might, and I might not.
With the unlocked OnePlus 8 Pro, we never got native Wi-Fi calling working on Verizon, so I don't want to miss out on that again, or any data bands.
I'm amped for the 6 Pro. I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with it. My brother-in-law is one of the heads of Photoshop and AI at Adobe. I'm think he'll be interested in taking a peek at it.
Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
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Xiaomi has next to zero compatible US bands. You'll have an awful time on T-Mobile, and I believe the same on AT&T.
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My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything ... They need to remove both of those.
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They just removed that.
Nice. Now they just need to dump their store and go strictly Play Store.
I mean, I agree, but it's not a huge deal. It auto-updates just like the play store does. Worst case scenario you check it once a month after the software update. /shrug
If I was ABSOLUTELY going to get a phone now, and I wasn't getting a pixel, I'd get a Oneplus 9 Pro. It's actually a great device, it just has **** software. Root it, and put a pixel experience ROM on it, and it's damn near identical to the 6 Pro. I actually think I like the hardware/feel of the 9 Pro better, especially in the pine green color.
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Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
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looked at the MI11 Ultra just can't find anywhere to buy one
vivo x70 pro and pro plus are S tier phones
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I was like you ,was always a HTC fan ......then they went off the boil over from, them to the essential phone ,which was awesome and massively under rated ,when they didn't survive I moved to the one plus 6t loved it and moved to the one plus 8 pro .....but they seem to be going away from op attraction now ,so now the pixel 6 pro
From a op only things I miss are warp charge alert slider ......unless your a i sheep or Samsunh fan boy then I think it's always going to be jumping to what's best at the time
I did love OnePlus, but they're utterly crappy camera (in the past) had me move away from them. I hear they've greatly improved that. At the end of the day, Samsung probably offers the best all around package with the least agitations for me, currently. They've made great strides in their UI, bloat, and ad invasiveness. They still have a long way to go, though.
I'll hold on to this P6P for a week or so and put it though the ringer. If it doesn't smooth out, I'll just use my 4A 5G until the new line of Samsung's roll out as I've already sold both my S21 and S21+ to family.
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Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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To be a little more clear, the issue comes down to frequencies rather than technology right now. With LTE, all U.S. carriers are using the same standard that the rest of the world uses. Same with 5G. Verizon and Sprint's (now T-Mobile's) CDMA networks will be shut down next year. While Verizon has some limitations on devices on their network, AT&T has actually become far more restrictive.
The real issue is the frequency bands that the carriers use for LTE and 5G. For example, T-Mobile has nationwide LTE and 5G coverage using band 71, but almost no other carriers in the world use it, which means that most phones sold in Europe and Asia won't work on one of T-Mobile's primary bands and T-Mobile customers may not get service without it. Verizon and AT&T just picked up a bunch of C-band spectrum that T-Mobile and much of the world aren't using for 5G. They also have mmWave 5G using bands that aren't widely used outside the U.S. right now as well. Though mmWave is only deployed in a small number of high-density urban areas.
One of the great things about the P6P is that the U.S. model has basically all of the frequencies used in the U.S. and most other countries, including mmWave.
In terms of phones, if you want compatibility with U.S. carriers (particularly T-Mobile on band 71), flagship specs, and the ability to unlock a bootloader and root, you have very few options right now. OnePlus and Google are the big ones, as Samsung locks their bootloaders for models with U.S. frequencies. Asus, Motorola, and Sony have a couple phones that will work as well. This site is a good resource for phones that work with T-Mobile (and often Verizon and AT&T too).
Wow, thank you. Way more informative than my post.
Furymaker said:
vivo x70 pro and pro plus are S tier phones
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For sure a good option but I wonder how compatible it is with Verizon or ATT. And I don't think there is a global version available.
Shipping update says I will get it today. Somehow I doubt that but will see. May not get the alternatives but we shall see.
LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
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LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
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Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
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Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
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Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
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Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
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We can agree to disagree. There are no salespeople in this forum. And as you can see people have been more than happy to help.
I have been searching for the past hour or so about this because I'd considering purchasing a OP9Pro, however I want to make sure I get the best experience.
I will be using Mint mobile (T-Mobile MVNO), but in the future there is a good chance I will change carriers to something else like AT&T, and I want to ensure compatibility. I am looking on eBay, and seeing tons of devices, many T-Mobile unlocked, or China unlocked, or North America unlocked, and I am just not sure which LE212X I should go for.
Does it even matter? I'd like to be running a custom ROM to avoid google and other spyware that might come from oneplus, I just don't know if certain variants are better/worse than others.
I come from Xiaomi where sometimes a phone for a different market has an entire different SoC.
Thanks!
The only one whitelisted for AT&T is the factory unlocked LE2125. T-Mobile isn't picky. I have an LE2115 (factory unlocked OnePlus 9) and it works perfectly on Tello (T-Mobile), AT&T, and Lexvor (Verizon).
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I have been searching for the past hour or so about this because I'd considering purchasing a OP9Pro, however I want to make sure I get the best experience.
I will be using Mint mobile (T-Mobile MVNO), but in the future there is a good chance I will change carriers to something else like AT&T, and I want to ensure compatibility. I am looking on eBay, and seeing tons of devices, many T-Mobile unlocked, or China unlocked, or North America unlocked, and I am just not sure which LE212X I should go for.
Does it even matter? I'd like to be running a custom ROM to avoid google and other spyware that might come from oneplus, I just don't know if certain variants are better/worse than others.
I come from Xiaomi where sometimes a phone for a different market has an entire different SoC.
Thanks!
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I would recommend the LE2125, it's the North American unlocked variant which gets regular updates and you don't need to bug T-Mobile to get it to work on other carriers.
@razercortex @EtherealRemnant i see.
screw at&t for whitelisting only one variant. what a shame! I will look for 2125.
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@razercortex @EtherealRemnant i see.
screw at&t for whitelisting only one variant. what a shame! I will look for 2125.
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You're better off getting the 2125 anyway because the T-Mobile software is different and it's hugely behind the global variant plus getting the bootloader unlocked is a bit more of a hassle and converting the T-Mobile edition to global has presented issues for people.
Yep, LE2125 Global for the win which I'm using on T-Mobile usa...
Yeah they are just so ridiculously expensive. Like $700-$1200 versus $550
Might just end up getting the 8T
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Yeah they are just so ridiculously expensive. Like $700-$1200 versus $550
Might just end up getting the 8T
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A lot of the reason the T-Mobile variant is cheaper is precisely because of these kinds of issues.
Yeah. Unfortunate I just wish any of my Xiaomi phones would work.
OnePlus is my next best but so expensive. I would feel awful if I dropped it!
i got mine about 3 week ago (unlocked american version) and have tmobile prepaid (which by the way is higher priority than mint on the same towers) and immedietly rooted and put on crdroid. Im so happy after switching from a note 20 ultra that could not be rooted. COuldnt be happier actually. I just got mines from best buy and traded in my device. Whats funny is on the one plus site its people crying about software issues and unhappiness but I cant relate since i put it on a custom rom right out the box. its very smooth. I went with the 9pro over the 10 because its the low ram low space version. I like it better anyways i dont need clunky cameras
Yeah i looked into t-mobile but their plans cost significantly more than mint for the same data amount.
and i dont really care about speed, i dont do much stuff on data that saving an extra few seconds matters to me.
i just want to be able to update/sync my 500gb+ music library over mobile network whenever i want without worrying about going over. always happens in background so saving $20 a month for slow unlimited vs fast unlimited is perfect.
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Yeah i looked into t-mobile but their plans cost significantly more than mint for the same data amount.
and i dont really care about speed, i dont do much stuff on data that saving an extra few seconds matters to me.
i just want to be able to update/sync my 500gb+ music library over mobile network whenever i want without worrying about going over. always happens in background so saving $20 a month for slow unlimited vs fast unlimited is perfect.
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You should get AT&T Prepaid. Get an AT&T SIM card and find a group to join on r/gophonegroups and you can get Unlimited Max, which is true unlimited with a 22GB deprioritization threshold, for just $34 a month. 15GB is $24 and 5GB is $14. The only reason I still have Tello is because I only need a gig of data a month and it costs me $7 plus T-Mobile has the better network here now that they have midband 5G otherwise I would have AT&T Prepaid myself.
The thing is I want to get away from a network that whitelists IMEIs... I have AT&T right now and always have my whole life.
I just hate that I cannot use my Xiaomi devices with AT&T, so am looking into T-Mobile, but considering getting a OnePlus phone so i could have freedom to bounce around and try many different carriers.
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The thing is I want to get away from a network that whitelists IMEIs... I have AT&T right now and always have my whole life.
I just hate that I cannot use my Xiaomi devices with AT&T, so am looking into T-Mobile, but considering getting a OnePlus phone so i could have freedom to bounce around and try many different carriers.
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Xiaomi is to blame for this. They intentionally don't put all the bands necessary for their phones to work right on US networks. T-Mobile has been starting to reject some Xiaomi devices as well for not having full band support. I would expect all three carriers to enforce whitelists by the end of this year once their respective 3G and 2G shutdowns have completed. The lack of band 71 absolutely cripples rural coverage and a lot of indoor and suburban coverage on T-Mobile and I just checked and even their new 12 series doesn't have it.
Yeah, unfortunately there aren't any xiaomi devices at all that support 71...
I guess its both companies making bad decisions. I should still be allowed to get ****ty service with my xiaomi on at&t if i want
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I have been searching for the past hour or so about this because I'd considering purchasing a OP9Pro, however I want to make sure I get the best experience.
I will be using Mint mobile (T-Mobile MVNO), but in the future there is a good chance I will change carriers to something else like AT&T, and I want to ensure compatibility. I am looking on eBay, and seeing tons of devices, many T-Mobile unlocked, or China unlocked, or North America unlocked, and I am just not sure which LE212X I should go for.
Does it even matter? I'd like to be running a custom ROM to avoid google and other spyware that might come from oneplus, I just don't know if certain variants are better/worse than others.
I come from Xiaomi where sometimes a phone for a different market has an entire different SoC.
Thanks!
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Chinese ver works on both as I've used it on both. No 5g on att though
toolhas4degrees said:
Chinese ver works on both as I've used it on both. No 5g on att though
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Chinese version is not whitelisted for AT&T. If you SIM-swapped and it worked, that was temporary. Seriously, AT&T are being real jerks about it and have been disabling phones that are fully working with VoLTE based on an internal IMEI whitelist.
EtherealRemnant said:
Chinese version is not whitelisted for AT&T. If you SIM-swapped and it worked, that was temporary. Seriously, AT&T are being real jerks about it and have been disabling phones that are fully working with VoLTE based on an internal IMEI whitelist.
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I'm been using a att sim from straight talk since launch day of op9 pro on Chinese model lol just no 5g
toolhas4degrees said:
I'm been using a att sim from straight talk since launch day of op9 pro on Chinese model lol just no 5g
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That's because you're on Straight Talk. That's not the same as being on AT&T. Full MVNOs like Straight Talk make their own rules (which is why a lot of H2o customers have been pissed off lately because their own whitelist is more restrictive than AT&T's and it's not published anywhere) and haven't all been on top of the shutdown. I would expect your phone to get the auto boot later this year though.
EtherealRemnant said:
That's because you're on Straight Talk. That's not the same as being on AT&T. Full MVNOs like Straight Talk make their own rules (which is why a lot of H2o customers have been pissed off lately because their own whitelist is more restrictive than AT&T's and it's not published anywhere) and haven't all been on top of the shutdown. I would expect your phone to get the auto boot later this year though.
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It won't has the bands and is part of a bring your own device program. They pay to use their networks won't happen