Question trying to understand the camera - Google Pixel 6 Pro

sometimes when i shoot at 4x, later when i look at the metadata i see that the p6p used the main wide camera and i guess did a digital zoom. i understand it does that when i choose 2x since there isn't a 2x lens. i would think that when i choose 4x, it would use the 4x optical lens. has anyone seen this too and know why? I installed an OhSnap grip on the back of my spigen case and started to think that maybe the magnet was affecting the camera, but sometimes the p6p does use the 4x camera while other times it uses the 1x and does the digital zoom.

I believe it's been mentioned in several threads and posts in this section, yes.
Try this search in this section.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I believe it's been mentioned in several threads and posts in this section, yes.
Try this search in this section.
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my apologies for not searching first. thank you for the help, i found the answer through your link. thanks!

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[Q] [REQ] Change Resolution?

I was just curious if there was a way to change the screen resolution to a higher setting, for example, 540 x 960 like the DROID Bionic that was just announced.
This is easily done on PC's, obviously, I was just curious if it was possible on the Epic as well.
The screen has a certain number of pixels. That is what the resolution is set at.
Likewise, with PC monitors, the screens have a certain number of pixels (native resolution) and should pretty much always be run at this resolution.
There is no way to increase the number of pixels.
The current resolution is native to our screens (display) The hardware will need to support such resolution in order for it to be available and used. The Bionic may have a tighter DPI allowing for the increase.
Oh, ok. Thanks guys. Was just curious if this was possible.
look into LCD density which makes it appear to have higher resoltion Found Here
as a side note there is a general forum AND a sticky that says "ask questions here" if you type [q] in your subject chances are this is a question and belongs in one of the two above places and NOT the developers forum where only DEV porojects and downloads should reside. EVERYONE MAKE A MENTAL NOTE OF THIS it's getting so tiresome watching people believe that they can post whatever they want where ever they want because they didnt feel like reading or are some how special.
Please post questions in General section.
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as a side note there is a general forum AND a sticky that says "ask questions here" if you type [q] in your subject chances are this is a question and belongs in one of the two above places and NOT the developers forum where only DEV porojects and downloads should reside. EVERYONE MAKE A MENTAL NOTE OF THIS it's getting so tiresome watching people believe that they can post whatever they want where ever they want because they didnt feel like reading or are some how special.
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No need to be an ass man. Honestly, I thought I was in the general forum. Definitely didn't intend to post it in the dev forum. My bad for the slip up.
Chill though.
Not to hijack the thread, but whats up with the hostilaty? I think the only people who feel they are special are the ones who get uptight about where stuff is posted.
Sure they're forums for different things, but I don't believe any lives were lost because someone new to the forums posted in the wrong forum. A lot of times I will be reading a thread, someone will link to something else, and then when I reply to the linked thread is where the problem occurs.
Your thought of conspiracy with people deliberatly posting in your developers forum are misguided I believe. But hey what do I know...
I've lurked here for a long time, if someone on their high horse feels the need to ban me because I've posted in the wrong forum, or spoken out of turn, or god forbid ask about Froyo then so be it, I'll go back to lurking.
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as a side note there is a general forum AND a sticky that says "ask questions here" if you type [q] in your subject chances are this is a question and belongs in one of the two above places and NOT the developers forum where only DEV porojects and downloads should reside. EVERYONE MAKE A MENTAL NOTE OF THIS it's getting so tiresome watching people believe that they can post whatever they want where ever they want because they didnt feel like reading or are some how special.
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Says the man without a single recent answer given in q&a. Like one to my question of why do some flashes to dk28 require a modem (like yours) and other ones, especially whosdamans, don't; and what the hell the modem is why is it relevant.
Exactly why the q&as don't get used.
EDIT: my apologies artemis its not personal. The cyclicity of the q&a argument is frustrating. And it does grow tiresome, especially because all parties are at fault.
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You do not need the app for lcd destiny just fyi. Edit the build.prop and change the number under lcd destiny lower for more screen space.
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knx2 said:
You do not need the app for lcd destiny just fyi. Edit the build.prop and change the number under lcd destiny lower for more screen space.
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First time ive EVER touched build.prop so id like to know if a change this small is risky or safe..also any idea what number i should use? its at stock 240...

Lots of info on Calibration except for speed

I have Torque which displays the speed at which the phone is going. Unfortunately, it is not calibrated properly and I'm unsure as to how to calibrate it.
I've read all the relevant threads on normal calibration (yamaha util, built-in Horiz Calib tool) but have not found one thing about calibrating the speed to 0.
Oddly enough, I did attempt to use the tools mentioned but it made it worse. Instead of being off by .5, it's now off by 2.5.
Anyone have any ideas or keywords I should be using to fix the issue?
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Why do we have to wait 30 seconds on the search? If I don't know the exact phrase or word, I have to waste a LOT of time trying to find anything. This is why I never berate people for asking questions over and over around here; it's almost impossible to use the search function efficiently.
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Why do we have to wait 30 seconds on the search? If I don't know the exact phrase or word, I have to waste a LOT of time trying to find anything. This is why I never berate people for asking questions over and over around here; it's almost impossible to use the search function efficiently.
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Because it makes you take that 30 seconds to actually READ the results, not saying that you specifically don't, but the searcher. Who knows, you might actually find the answer amongst the myriad of results.
Again, this is not geared towards anyone, but in my experience, it has been beneficial to me to read thoroughly all the results.
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Because it makes you take that 30 seconds to actually READ the results, not saying that you specifically don't, but the searcher. Who knows, you might actually find the answer amongst the myriad of results.
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If that was the case, I'd never know there was a 30 second time out on searches. I read more quickly than some others. Please note, I am not implying or insinuating that people who read more slowly than me are dumb or otherwise viewed by me in a negative light.
But when the search shows no results (as it more often than not does), then where is my recourse for efficient searching?
The nice thing is, however, when you go to post a new topic such as this one, it gives a multitude of similar threads which surprisingly works much, much better than the actual search tool. So my workaround sometimes (such as this) is to start a topic and then read through the related ones even when they're on separate boards. None of the threads presented to me had anything to do with the issue I have.
I know you put the qualifier of "not saying that you specifically don't" but your first sentence seems personal to me. Perhaps it's because of the directness of the pronoun, "you."
I just want help and help that I can actually use without having to brave the attacks and insults many people are so very eager to share here. Hence the request for keywords because I am not perfect and I may be spelling incorrectly, using the incorrect term, etc.
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If that was the case, I'd never know there was a 30 second time out on searches. I read more quickly than some others. Please note, I am not implying or insinuating that people who read more slowly than me are dumb or otherwise viewed by me in a negative light.
But when the search shows no results (as it more often than not does), then where is my recourse for efficient searching?
The nice thing is, however, when you go to post a new topic such as this one, it gives a multitude of similar threads which surprisingly works much, much better than the actual search tool. So my workaround sometimes (such as this) is to start a topic and then read through the related ones even when they're on separate boards. None of the threads presented to me had anything to do with the issue I have.
I know you put the qualifier of "not saying that you specifically don't" but your first sentence seems personal to me. Perhaps it's because of the directness of the pronoun, "you."
I just want help and help that I can actually use without having to brave the attacks and insults many people are so very eager to share here. Hence the request for keywords because I am not perfect and I may be spelling incorrectly, using the incorrect term, etc.
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I apologise for your feeling offended. Again I stress that it was not geared toward any specific person. I was merely explaining my logic on why there is a 30 second rule. You asked the question, i just gave you an opinion. I guess only moderators could answer for you. Who knows I could be completely wrong.
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Speed is based on GPS, there is no other way the phone can tell how fast it is going, unless you're using Torque's OBD2 connection feature. Grab the app GPS Test and see if the speed works there for you. Should be all the same, since as I said, it' GPS based. I just pulled up both Torque and GPS Test and have 0 mph.
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I apologise for your feeling offended. Again I stress that it was not geared toward any specific person. I was merely explaining my logic on why there is a 30 second rule. You asked the question, i just gave you an opinion. I guess only moderators could answer for you. Who knows I could be completely wrong.
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Oh, I wasn't offended. A lot of people use the pronoun "you" when they really mean a general audience. I just wanted to make sure...on the boards, a person can't tell from text alone at times. We're all good.
@gremlyn1
Yup. Talking about Torque. After doing the horizontal calibration and rebooting a few times, it finally took and zeroed itself out.
Thanks for y'all's answers.
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Nope. Its because if they let you search more frequently their server hardware would be brought to its knees. Sites enforce rules like this to limit the number of database queries.
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Better alternative to postcount limit in development forums

Why are you judging members by their post count?
For lack of a better alternative. I challenge anyone to come up with a better alternative.
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OK. You need a 'user points' system. I'm more familiar with Drupal than vb (you should probably upgrade sometime), so I'm not sure what's available for vb, if anything. You want something similar to this: http://drupal.org/project/userpoints
Users then earn points for performing certain actions on your site (not just posting), you can assign different amounts of points for different actions. Points can be removed too.
Then have a minimum userpoint limit for posting in certain forums.
Then you'd have better control over what activities you were encouraging users to do, rather than just encouraging short spam posts.
Chalenge accepted.
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12aon said:
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First of all I'd like to say "challenge accepted"
@wbaw: I like your Idea of a 'user points' system. To make sure that there are only posts that are above a certain level of standard, you need to create some kind of 'filter'. But I think that, such a system as you have suggested could be exploited as well. As long as there are technical rules to be fulfilled one can just do so and get his status right.
@12aon: In my opinion we need a rating system for the quality of posts and based on this a hiding mechanism for posts.
Let me explain why I came up and what I mean by this.
I have to confess that I'm a heavy user of youtube. And here you have a good example what I mean. You do not only have the ability to press a "like", "+1" or "thump up" -button but also the possibility to press "thumps down". What I figured out is, that the rating of the videos are surprisingly close to my own opinion. That implies that everyone is sensitive to the quality of a video (or post?!?) and furthermore that the average opinion about the quality is in average the opinion of the single reader itself (myself).
In the XDA-Forum you have the "Thanks" button. What I suggest is a ... hmmm ... "ingratitude" button (or just do "thumps up and down", "plus and minus", "happy and sad" or whatever you like). Each user has a single voice for each post.
With this mechanism in place, a post that is below a certain threshold could be automatically minimized. I don't mean that they should be deleted, because there might be answers that refer to this particular post. But by minimizing it, bad quality posts get out of the focus of the reader. If wanted, one can still expand and read it (by pressing some kind of an "open button").
That is the first step. In the second step there is a user rating that is based on the post rating of all his posts. So if one does not mind his behavior or is asking stupid questions over and over again. His Account is restricted to post only in the non developer parts of the forum.
The first advantage by applying this functionality is, that silly posts get quite fast out of the focus of the reader.
The second advantage is that silly poster (no offense here ^^) are removed from development forums in the long run.
The third advantage is, that one have to take care of all his posts even in the long run (writing 10 posts does not necessarily means that one have learned its lesson). So the over all quality of the forum itself is increasing.
In my opinion this functionality is a little bit better than restricting everyone (even the high quality poster) to non development forums just because they are not active enough to reach 10 posts.
The problem is, to define the threshold. I've some ideas in my mind, but that would leave the scope of this post which is to invite a new (I know its old, but new to this forum) idea.
Cheers
Ponsel
p.S. Sorry 4 my bad English. Its not my native language.
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OK. You need a 'user points' system. I'm more familiar with Drupal than vb (you should probably upgrade sometime), so I'm not sure what's available for vb, if anything. You want something similar to this: http://drupal.org/project/userpoints
Users then earn points for performing certain actions on your site (not just posting), you can assign different amounts of points for different actions. Points can be removed too.
Then have a minimum userpoint limit for posting in certain forums.
Then you'd have better control over what activities you were encouraging users to do, rather than just encouraging short spam posts.
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I appreciate your ideas on this topic, although I have to admit I am really mystified by this: "....rather than just encouraging short spam posts".
Why do you believe that encouraging users to post in the proper sections with helpful answers to other users is "encouraging short spam posts"? I seriously don't get this idea. It is not really any more difficult to try a little to post even marginally helpful answers to other people in the General and Q&A forums as opposed to "short spam posts".
It is not like getting 10 not-spam posts is that difficult. Probably hundreds do it any given week here. Is it too much to ask that people read a little first, gain some knowledge, try to be a little helpful to others in the General, Q&A, Themes and Apps, and Accessories device forums, or in the general discussion forums, in order to be able to post into any dev thread on this site?
I am not sure if there is a way to add this type of functionality to VBulletin, but I think it just becomes a meaningless stat over time just like the thanks counter, and users will figure out a way to scam it as well.
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First of all I'd like to say "challenge accepted"
@12aon: In my opinion we need a rating system for the quality of posts and based on this a hiding mechanism for posts.
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This is already in the works from what I hear, there will be rating buttons on each post, enough positive votes raises it up, enough negative votes hides it (not delete).
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Ponsel said:
First of all I'd like to say "challenge accepted"
@12aon: In my opinion we need a rating system for the quality of posts and based on this a hiding mechanism for posts.
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This is already in the works from what I hear, there will be rating buttons on each post, enough positive votes raises it up, enough negative votes hides it (not delete).
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That sounds great. I'd love to increase the visibility of my favorite ROM and further more rate away bad posts.
Cheers
Ponsel
p.S. Just writing to increase my "noob counter" ;-D
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That sounds great. I'd love to increase the visibility of my favorite ROM and further more rate away bad posts.
Cheers
Ponsel
p.S. Just writing to increase my "noob counter" ;-D
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I would advise not writing posts to simply increase your post count. That can get the wrong kind of attention. Instead, simply try to write good posts that help people less experienced than you in your devices General or Q&A forum and it won't ever be a problem to worry about.
@wbaw - While the user points system would be a massive change to how things are run at the moment, I can't help feeling that mf2112 is completely right when he says that it'll become just like the thanks button.
In an ideal world, it would be a great idea and would work perfectly well. But in amongst the realms of the internet, a lot of people will simply do all they can just so they can post something wherever they'd like to.
@Ponsel - Even though this rating system can be a great idea and will probably be put into action at some point, I can't help feeling that this system will be exploited aswell.
I say this because quite a few times, in my short time here, I've seen moments when there's been a casual discussion going on with 6/7 people and everything's going great. Then all of a sudden, one states their opinion and none of the others agree with it or like it, so they all gang up on the individual.
In this instance, the 'gang' could quite easily vote all the individuals comments down, thus resulting in him/her being penalized.
Obviously the situation would be able to be rectified in the end, but until a mod has been able to view the whole situation, the individual would still have to be without certain posting rights, which wouldn't be fair.
The third advantage is, that one have to take care of all his posts even in the long run (writing 10 posts does not necessarily means that one have learned its lesson). So the over all quality of the forum itself is increasing.
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^^^I really love this bit because as you mention, people will have to take care of what they post, even if they have thousands of posts. Also, I really do think it would improve the forum quality aswell. Only time will tell as to whether it with get implemented or not and whether it would even be effective, but I do like the idea so far.
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p.S. Just writing to increase my "noob counter" ;-D
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would advise not writing posts to simply increase your post count.
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I just could not resist to show how easy it is to exploit the "noob counter" system. You just need to start a discussion and keep trolling.
But here's the non trolling reply:
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@Ponsel - Even though this rating system can be a great idea and will probably be put into action at some point, I can't help feeling that this system will be exploited aswell.
I say this because quite a few times, in my short time here, I've seen moments when there's been a casual discussion going on with 6/7 people and everything's going great. Then all of a sudden, one states their opinion and none of the others agree with it or like it, so they all gang up on the individual.
In this instance, the 'gang' could quite easily vote all the individuals comments down, thus resulting in him/her being penalized.
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I know, that my idea is not without any fault. But I think that this problem can be solved by a good threshold. I think its to early to go into details, but to support my idea and to encourage everyone to participate in this discussion (I can't fight the feeling that I'm just trolling again ^^) I'll now suggest one possible solution how to solve this problem.
I think the threshold should work in two steps:
Step 1. As long as there are no more than 5 ratings the post is visible.
Step 2. As long as there are 10% or more positive votes the post should still be visible.
These numbers have materialized out of thin air in front of my inner eye and I'd be glad if some "number cruncher" could calculate better ones. But first let me explain why I've chosen this particular ones.
First of all I'd like to state that I'd rather let a bad post stay visible then losing a good idea. So I would be very careful when filtering them out. By the method that I've suggested, a post would be as visible as long as not at least 6 persons have rated against it. And even then a single positive vote can keep the post above the threshold until there are 10 negative votes against it.
Normal posts will get voted very seldom (just because they don't polarize as much).
Posts that polarize will get some positive and some negative votes and stay above the threshold.
I figure that bad posts are so obvious bad that barely anyone will ever vote them positive (well ... the poster should not be allowed to rate his own post ^^).
The rating system for the account itself must work somehow different. I've no Idea how it should work, but I think that the lowest 5-15% of the "most unpopular" accounts should be restricted on non development forums (these numbers are out of thin air as well ^^).
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The third advantage is, that one have to take care of all his posts even in the long run (writing 10 posts does not necessarily means that one have learned its lesson). So the over all quality of the forum itself is increasing.
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^^^I really love this bit because as you mention, people will have to take care of what they post, even if they have thousands of posts. Also, I really do think it would improve the forum quality aswell. Only time will tell as to whether it with get implemented or not and whether it would even be effective, but I do like the idea so far.
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Well in this point I'm not sooo optimistic because normal posts rarely get a rating at all. Giving those assumption someone with a lot of posts might stay above the threshold. It might be advisable to take only the posts with a rating into account, but I'm not sure.
I hope my remarks support my Idea of a rating system for posts ^^
Cheers
Ponsel
only issue i have is i am very experience in flashing roms just new to this site and i have a couple very specific questions about ombg nand and i could not ask. which is my main reason for signing up. there is a ton of great info here but i was having a specific issue with the rom on my rhod400 and i hope to get a answer in general since i couldnt ask directly in that thread.
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only issue i have is i am very experience in flashing roms just new to this site and i have a couple very specific questions about ombg nand and i could not ask. which is my main reason for signing up. there is a ton of great info here but i was having a specific issue with the rom on my rhod400 and i hope to get a answer in general since i couldnt ask directly in that thread.
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As others have stated, you should make some helpful posts around the forums. If you say you're sharp at flashing, I'm sure there's a ton of questions you can answer around the forums.
The TP2 is a strange device, in that it runs both Android and WinMo. We really need an "Android General" section for the TP2, which I have tried many times to get...
So unfortunately there's not a whole lot you can do. Just don't go spamming forums with worthless drivel... that will certainly get you unwanted attention.
This is the kind of thing we think about a lot. We actually do have a "points" system in beta on some forums but there are a lot of issues that come into play when you start showing/hiding threads based on points. What if a group gets together and starts voting competing projects down in collective voting blocks?
Right now we simply ask that in order to post in certain sections, that you help others out first. It may not be the ideal solution but it is working for the community at the moment.
Anyway, rest assured we continually evaluate the best way to balance user interaction vs limiting the cruft.
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This is the kind of thing we think about a lot. We actually do have a "points" system in beta on some forums but there are a lot of issues that come into play when you start showing/hiding threads based on points. What if a group gets together and starts voting competing projects down in collective voting blocks?
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I'm not quite sure how to answer this. I'll try it anyway
My suggestion is for single posts, not for threads. Probably its a good idea to disable the the voting for the initial post of a thread.
It's all about visibility. I don't want to delete the post, just minimize it within the thread.
I'd like to mention the REALLY low threshold. 10% means that every 10 negative votes can be countered by one single positive vote.
If there is a project that figures that there is a competitor the competitor itself must have accumulated enough interest to be recognized as such one. That means that there is a fan base to keep it above the threshold mentioned in point 3.
Last but not least. It might sound harsh, but if a Project can not build up as many fans as needed to defend itself, then probably this project might be not worth working on it (just a thought).
Cheers
Ponsel
We can mention who all have voted up/down on every post (through some expandable option, ofcourse)..
This way, group behaviour can be identified, and accordingly dealt with, by the mods...
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[*]Last but not least. It might sound harsh, but if a Project can not build up as many fans as needed to defend itself, then probably this project might be not worth working on it (just a thought).
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Ponsel
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Sorry but an app that is genuinely useful but may only have a handful of responses is just as, if not more valuable to a site like this than some annoying fart/wallpaper application which may have hundreds.
Quantity of responses/thanks clicks is no gauge for quality.
This is a difficult issue to approach and I don't really have an answer for you but my personal feeling has always been that the post count limit should be raised.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Sorry but an app that is genuinely useful but may only have a handful of responses is just as, if not more valuable to a site like this than some annoying fart/wallpaper application which may have hundreds.
Quantity of responses/thanks clicks is no gauge for quality.
This is a difficult issue to approach and I don't really have an answer for you but my personal feeling has always been that the post count limit should be raised.
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You,sir,are amazing... LOL... Anyway,i also agree that the post count limit should be increased rather than decreased..
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Sorry but an app that is genuinely useful but may only have a handful of responses is just as, if not more valuable to a site like this than some annoying fart/wallpaper application which may have hundreds.
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See point 4 on my list. A project as small as you seems to have in mind, would never collect enough attention to be recognized as a competitor. it's just to small.
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Quantity of responses/thanks clicks is no gauge for quality.
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Neither is a "noob counter".
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This is a difficult issue to approach and I don't really have an answer for you but my personal feeling has always been that the post count limit should be raised.
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Following your argumentation that even small projects might contribute to the developer community, I'd like to express the thought, that even the first post of a completely new account could include the spark of genius that is needed to solve a problem for which even recognized developers could provide a solution since years. One should not use different standards to similar problems. :angel::laugh:
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Quality of a post is not only based on its contents, but on the manners of the poster as well. The phrase quoted would have made me hesitating to give a positive vote (neither would I rate it down, because your arguments help to figure out the pro and cons of my suggestion and we urgently need to discuss the boundaries of a new idea before doing a field test).
Cheers
Ponsel
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See point 4 on my list. A project as small as you seems to have in mind, would never collect enough attention to be recognized as a competitor. it's just to small.
The examples given aren't really important, its the principle, just because something is popular does not make it any more relevant or valid. I'm also unsure where the idea of competition comes from. XDA is about collaboration not competition.
Neither is a "noob counter".
It's not a counter, it's a period of introduction to the forums and a chance to contribute to the community befor gaining access to the development forums. It's unfortunate that such measures are necessary but due to the majority of new member simply wishing to ask inane questions or make demands of the developers, they are necessary.
Following your argumentation that even small projects might contribute to the developer community, I'd like to express the thought, that even the first post of a completely new account could include the spark of genius that is needed to solve a problem for which even recognized developers could provide a solution since years. One should not use different standards to similar problems. :angel::laugh:
Very true and one of the major drawbacks to this rule. However, anyone with such knowledge will no doubt either make ten useful posts or alert the relevant party via PM. Anyone who has the attitude of "I know the answer but I'm not sharing it because of the ten post rule" is probably not suited to XDA.
Quality of a post is not only based on its contents, but on the manners of the poster as well. The phrase quoted would have made me hesitating to give a positive vote (neither would I rate it down, because your arguments help to figure out the pro and cons of my suggestion and we urgently need to discuss the boundaries of a new idea before doing a field test).
lol, the phrase you quoted here is my mobile signature and not directed at you or your post here
Cheers
Ponsel
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Responded to your points in red.
Here is my take on the 10-post "issue". I signed up for the forum a few days ago to hopefully get an answer regarding the win mobile phones and Ive searched for an answer and could not find one. I'm not a windows phone user so I dont have a lot of knowledge about the devices so Im not the best person to help (hence lowering my post count). So I have to reply with posts like this to be able to post a real question in the category I really want to post it in. I've asked the question in the Q&A section but because its flooded with everyone's questions I dont think people actually go there to help assist anyone (my short observation).
vitaliyt said:
Here is my take on the 10-post "issue". I signed up for the forum a few days ago to hopefully get an answer regarding the win mobile phones and Ive searched for an answer and could not find one. I'm not a windows phone user so I dont have a lot of knowledge about the devices so Im not the best person to help (hence lowering my post count). So I have to reply with posts like this to be able to post a real question in the category I really want to post it in. I've asked the question in the Q&A section but because its flooded with everyone's questions I dont think people actually go there to help assist anyone (my short observation).
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The development section is not the place for questions. I can assure that posting a question there will get you a response, however it won't be the one you want.
So here is my partial proposed solution to the issue. Upon signup, perhaps the users need to go through a rotating question system (10 questions?) and another captcha? This may take the user longer to sign up and be able to post but maybe there wont be so many abandoned user accounts, not sure if you have current viability on this or not.
Abandoned accounts is not the problem...
The problem is that people think that the dev area is for newb questions...it isn't...
Hence, the initial limitation posed to all, so that they atleast try and understand what this site is about...
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Should the Pixel and Pixel XL forms combine?

I also posted this to the Pixel Forum here.
Right now on XDA we have separate forums for the Pixel and Pixel XL. For the first time (that I can think of) we have two identical Android phones in two sizes. I don't know how popular iPhones forums are on XDA but they don't have separate forums for the regular and plus versions. There isn't iPhone forums on XDA.
It seems like both Pixel and Pixel XL forms already have topics covering both devices. What are your thoughts on combining forums?
Added a poll.
I can't even find the Pixel Phone forum on here. Do you mind linking the main forum so I can find it. Thanks.
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MichaelMcC said:
I can't even find the Pixel Phone forum on here. Do you mind linking the main forum so I can find it. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel
It is just pixel. It seems fairly dead over there for the phone just being announced. Maybe most of them are in the XL forum.
hockeyman12c said:
Right now on XDA we have separate forums for the Pixel and Pixel XL. For the first time (that I can think of) we have two identical Android phones in two sizes. I don't know how popular iPhones forums are on XDA but they don't have separate forums for the regular and plus versions.
It seems like both Pixel and Pixel XL forms already have topics covering both devices. What are your thoughts on combining forums?
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Combine
While much of the content will be the same, I can see a reason for the separate forums. Accessories will be different sizes. ROMs will have to have some sight differences as well. While accessories and ROMs should be labeled for the appropriate version, some people won't pay attention and cause themselves pain which they will then in turn blame everyone else for.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel
It is just pixel. It seems fairly dead over there for the phone just being announced. Maybe most of them are in the XL forum.
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I ordered the Pixel, but I am here cause you guys seem more active and its the same phone
also, the Galaxy Tab Pro series has a combined xda forum, for the 8", 10", and 12" sizes
#UNITY
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Yes.
There will be some hw differences, projects won't be cross compatible for the most part. They want to avoid noobs breaking their stuff
MichaelMcC said:
I can't even find the Pixel Phone forum on here. Do you mind linking the main forum so I can find it. Thanks.
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All you have to do is use search bar and type Google Pixel there are too. We should not have them combined different motherboards different roms and roots when released. not the same devices
That's a tough choice. I would say merge them but keep the development subforums separate.
Maybe, you should wait for an "iFixit" (or equivalent) evaluation of what is realy inside...
btw; do you have any idea of kernel version : 3.18 or 4.x (new concept without new kernel = pixel (?!)).
These two phones are identical in everything except screen size. The forums should be merged.
Forums should be merged.
Should be easy to use a prefix in the thread title so everyone knows.
NardVa said:
These two phones are identical in everything except screen size. The forums should be merged.
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well, not exactly.
one has FHD screen, other has QHD (obviously different size as well)
different battery capacity.
It looks like more than 80% of the votes are interested in consolidating the forums. It looks like the concerns would be separating Accessories and Development. Some expressed this could be resolved with separate areas for each device or requiring tags.
@MikeChannon you are the Moderator for the Pixel and Pixel XL forums. Could you weigh in on this? Is this possible to do?
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It looks like more than 80% of the votes are interested in consolidating the forums. It looks like the concerns would be separating Accessories and Development. Some expressed this could be resolved with separate areas for each device or requiring tags.
@MikeChannon you are the Moderator for the Pixel and Pixel XL forums. Could you weigh in on this? Is this possible to do?
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Well I'm the site Forum Admin.
The Moderators for these phones are:
Stephen
SynisterWolf
Sloth
Magnum_Enforcer
Mike
MikeChannon said:
Well I'm the site Forum Admin.
The Moderators for these phones are:
Stephen
SynisterWolf
Sloth
Magnum_Enforcer
Mike
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Thanks Mike!
@Stephen
 @SynisterWolf
 @Sloth
 @Magnum_Enforcer
It looks like since the thread was bumped a few more No than Yes votes were cast. What are the moderators opinion on this? If this isn't possible or Mods decide this isn't a good idea please close\lock the thread as needed.
If you voted No would you vote Yes if some criteria was met? Example: Separate Development sections for each device. Please share your opinion.
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Thanks Mike!
@Stephen
@SynisterWolf
@Sloth
@Magnum_Enforcer
It looks like since the thread was bumped a few more No than Yes votes were cast. What are the moderators opinion on this? If this isn't possible or Mods decide this isn't a good idea please close\lock the thread as needed.
If you voted No would you vote Yes if some criteria was met? Example: Separate Development sections for each device. Please share your opinion.
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I'll bring this up with the forum moderators for this forum and see what they think. My personal view is, the Pixel XL and Pixel phones should get a lot of traffic, based on the previous phones, I think 2 forums are warranted. We could get confusion when people are asking questions in the Q&A section for example regarding which phone they ware wanting support for etc. Also we would need to find out if the ROM's have different basis as well, if they did then it would almost certainly need two forums.
Agree with @Stephen ...but there are a few caveats that we need to look at first and unfortunately that can't be done until some development begins. First, are there any nuances in the architecture that differentiate the X from the XL? On the front face, only the display and battery are different, but as we all know that doesn't mean the rest is identical. Maybe there is something buried deep in the kernel or a line in one of the props that may seem miniscule, but throws everything out of wack.
Something that we can possibly look at in the future would be combination, but with some restructure. What I mean here is that we can have the Guides/News, Accessories, Themes/Apps/Mods and QA sections combined, but separate the X and XL Development sections from one another. That will make sure that if you are just asking a general question or need a guide, you can look in the combined section. But if you are looking for a specific ROM build, you will have to go into your specific arena.
Ultimately, we need to get devices in hand and a better analysis of the system dumps that we currently have. Those will tell the tale.
Oh and someone said something about the Search Bar. That made my day. I think that I have to log off now since my keyboard is soaked with my tears of laughter and I don't want to short it out and have to explain why to IT.

Cyanogenmod 13 No Audio

Hi Guys,
I just updated (OTA) my Zenfone 2, with the october 15th build (CM13). But now, my ZF2 (ZE551ML) does not output audio at all: headphones, speakers and any other way!
I tried clearing Dalvik and Cache but got no results at all.
Is anyone facing the same problem, or could help me fixing this? :fingers-crossed:
armandofreire said:
Hi Guys,
I just updated (OTA) my Zenfone 2, with the october 15th build (CM13). But now, my ZF2 (ZE551ML) does not output audio at all: headphones, speakers and any other way!
I tried clearing Dalvik and Cache but got no results at all.
Is anyone facing the same problem, or could help me fixing this? :fingers-crossed:
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If you had bothered to look at the cm13 thread, you'd see many people are.
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kenbo111 said:
If you had bothered to look at the cm13 thread, you'd see many people are.
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Oh yeah, because you simply concluded I didn't look at the CM13 thread and then you decided to come up with a pretty useless answer, instead of trying to understand the main purpose of this thread.
I'm unsure if someone already told you, but did you know that you're not obligated to reply a thread? So, next time you can just walk away if you feel uncomfortable when you see one!
Have a good week Mr!
armandofreire said:
Oh yeah, because you simply concluded I didn't look at the CM13 thread and then you decided to come up with a pretty useless answer, instead of trying to understand the main purpose of this thread.
I'm unsure if someone already told you, but did you know that you're not obligated to reply a thread? So, next time you can just walk away if you feel uncomfortable when you see one!
Have a good week Mr!
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If you had already looked at the thread and seen that many people are indeed having this problem, then this is a useless thread. One of the forum rules is search before asking. So that the forum is not cluttered up with repeat posts after repeat post. If it's not pointed out to you, then you will continue to do it. Please take your attitude somewhere else. Try to follow the rules from now on.
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