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Hi i'm using a at&t tilt2. its a great phone. I'm running some version of a wm6.5 energyrom with sense 2.5 and cookie home tab.
My problem is that after i start up my phone and while i'm using it throughout the day the % ram memory used is usually from 70-85% and it sometimes even reaches 90%. The only app that i am running regularly is palringo, which is usually on most of the time.
I tried installing the nopushinternet and dynamic resource proxy cabs, but they didn't really change anything. I've heard of people having percentages of even 30-40%. If i could get anywhere from 40-50% i would be really happy.
any suggestions?
WM is notorious for memory leaks. I start with about 53% (TF3D active and modded), but within an hour I'll be up around 65% or more without even using the phone. I use HTC CleanRAM and even have it scheduled to run every morning before I wake so the phone starts somewhat fresh, but the only real way to recover your RAM is to do a soft reset once or twice a day. Just one of the many things M$ hasn't fixed in all these years.
Even I am using Energy ROM and facing similar memory issues..
The only solution I have found was to disable HTC sense and it got my RAM usage to almost 45% from 64%.
NRG creates vanilla (blank) roms for people that want more ram, these don't have sense included.
I'm on the 21XXX sense 2.5 cookie july 16th energy rom and have high ram usage as well specially when i use opera. Its known and the best thing you can do is either cleanram or soft reset (which i do a couple times a day).
its because you are using sense. its a massive memory leak wrapped up in a nice UI. EVERYONE using sense in any rendition (2.x) has the exact same problem. if they tell you otherwise they are lieing. sense routinely jumps up to 70% to 90%, even with every memory hack you can think of or with every rom you can think of.
while it is not scientific, i have tried just about every rom here including the official roms and i have done so on two tp2s: always the massive resource consumption. people claim to keep it at like 60% or lower, but thats not true unless they are rebooting every 3 hours. i decided to switch back to stock tf3d on 6.1 and i am at 51% and have not rebooted my phone for 3 days. granted i did the memory hacks and have clean ram running every three hours, but thats a realistic expectation.
if you want a smooth UI and memory, ditch sense and go back to tf3d.
I have TF3D and mine hovers around 65% with nothing running. I've seen it climb to as high as 85% at which point my Tilt 2 starts to bog down. Sense may be worse, but TF is no speed demon, either. I'd be interested in those memory hacks you mentioned. Any links?
All of your situations suck balls... I left windows mobile for Android for just that reason... And came back eventually! Why? The power under the hood.
I was running energy, and it was looking good, just always had the mem leak. Its usually gwes.exe, if we could fix that, then it would have been golden. I guess its not for fixing, might be out of xdas realm of expertise as yet.
And that is why I use 6.1... and haven't reset my phone in FOUR days!!! Granted at its height 6.1 was buggy as well because of the nature of XDA, which is to push the limits.
I wanted the power of a windows mobile phone. My nexus could go a month without a glitch or hiccup or reset, yes reset! The battery would go 15 hours at best though, hardly using it. That was unacceptable. I still had this Rhodium, sold the nexus threw on jackos oldschool and forgot about being cutting edge. Now I have power and stability.... and 30 hours of battery
By the way, I have not reset in four days and never feel the need to. I will say that the first Android phone with decent battery life and a keyboard comparable to my Rhodium that comes out spells the end for me and windows on a phone. I will be leaving the sinking ship as i doubt iWindows will do it for me when it finally releases. Android aint windows, but it aint the Iphoney either!
I just use the standard default AT&T ROM, along with some tweaks, and SPB Mobile Shell and I have 57% FREE after a boot up. By the end of the day its usually around 45-48% FREE, depending on use.
I am using the ROM and Cookie combination in my signature and my memory sits at about 30% free all day long. A reason for this is I have Seven push mail running in the background at all times. I am extremely happy with this as my phone never seems to feel the effects.
The cookies tabs takes many many many of RAM, I have now Athine ROM clean with SPB mobile shell, it's well, and stable, the only nigative point is that the SPB mobile shell makes battery life for little bit less
I forgot to mention my memory stays at 52% available after like four-5 days with the occasional running of memmaid
ArkSwitch
I just do not understand why ArkSwitch is showing me that I have "46MB free out of 181MB". In the "about phone" menu it is clearly written that I have 288MB of RAM. Why in Ark Switch is 181?
after updating my titan to 8107 the thing that manifested itself was the drastic reduction in battery life.i was getting 2 days easy out of the battery. tried shutting off wifi,bluetooth locations etc to no avail.reset etc nothing worked.after a full recharge i unplugged the phone tonight and it said 15 hours life left on a 100% battery.restored the phone to 7740 and immediately with the wifi back on etc i had 1 day 13 hours battery life left.the two things i noticed that i can do on 7740 i can't do on 8107 is turn off 3g and i live in an area of no 3g and the find my phone is disconected so i'll be sticking with 7740.
I am on unofficial 8107 pushed update. No issues as mentioned above. Easily at 25-27 hours with auto screen brightness and data sync.
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I appreciate you probably live in a 3g area which means your phone is not constantly looking for something that isn't there, but where I am in rural Scotland I only have 2g but atleast I now get 48hrs battery life again.
Do a hard reset. I have a Quantum, and after Mango the battery life was horrid. However last week I did a hard reset, and I'm back to showing 1 day 4 hours, etc on a full charge. And can now generally get through a day without having to charge my phone at work.
i noticed a reduction on battery too,mine says 18 hours just unplugged from fully charged, i'll try hard reset thing
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after hard reset it says 1 day and 7 hours battery!! I hope it's true
do you guys realize that the time is just an average based on your use? If you hard reset, it gets reset. Doesn't effect how long it will last though. If you use your phone and play lots of games the 1st day and drain it, it will say 11 hours next time you charge it. But if you don't use it much the next it will say 13 or 14. it could last 18 or 2 days. It is showing what the estimated average based on your usage will be. Mine says 14 hours. Sometimes during the day it drops to 9 if i play a few games. then after it sits for a few hours it may say 17. After about 3 weeks or so though it gives you a true average based on how you usually use the phone.
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do you guys realize that the time is just an average based on your use? If you hard reset, it gets reset. Doesn't effect how long it will last though. If you use your phone and play lots of games the 1st day and drain it, it will say 11 hours next time you charge it. But if you don't use it much the next it will say 13 or 14. it could last 18 or 2 days. It is showing what the estimated average based on your usage will be. Mine says 14 hours. Sometimes during the day it drops to 9 if i play a few games. then after it sits for a few hours it may say 17. After about 3 weeks or so though it gives you a true average based on how you usually use the phone.
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Source?
I know if you're running music or streaming and you check it, the number changes. I figured it was based on what is in the memory or based on what's been happening just before you checked.
I do know that since my hard reset I'm getting longer battery life. Feels like 30% more.
I don't understand why they would compute all these useage averages, instead of just a true estimate as to how much power is left. What would be the benefit?
I always had the impression that the number of remaining hours is true if I continue to use the phone as I am doing right now. So when I am playing a game and it says 2 hours remaining and I stop playing the game and lock the screen, after two hours the phone will still have battery left etc.
Instead of a hard reset you can also try to run your battery completly empty and then charge it again to 100% to recalibrate it. I think recalibration of the battery has been helpful in the past after updates.
HTC Titan, updated from 7740 to 8107. I averaged 1 day of battery life with 7740, ever since updating and hard resetting, I now average 2.5 days. The problem is not with 8107, the problem is with your device stevov.
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HTC Titan, updated from 7740 to 8107. I averaged 1 day of battery life with 7740, ever since updating and hard resetting, I now average 2.5 days. The problem is not with 8107, the problem is with your device stevov.
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sorry mate as i explained on the other thread he device works fine.8107 is eating the battery due to the settings restrictions. phone works sweet as on 7740 and has never displayed any of the problems that the us titans have.phone works brilliant on 8107 also. just eats the battery. just incase you missed it i don't get 3g or edge where i am.
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sorry mate as i explained on the other thread he device works fine.8107 is eating the battery due to the settings restrictions. phone works sweet as on 7740 and has never displayed any of the problems that the us titans have.phone works brilliant on 8107 also. just eats the battery. just incase you missed it i don't get 3g or edge where i am.
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OK let's just continue this here (lol)
Your real issue is that you need to be able to turn off 3G, correct? It's 3G searching for a signal that kills your battery, not 8107. If your 3G toggle is missing after you update, see if you can use provxml on your device and apply the reg tweak for showing the 3G toggle option, then turn 3G off.
Here's the thread with the registry tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907971&highlight=3g+toggle
8107 should not cause any battery issues. it just a minor, very minor update..
Its not like going form nodo to mango
thanks for the replies guys. as someone who was just getting to grips with reg edit on my touchpro2 from what i've seen so far reg edit on 7.5 is not quite the same. i'm content in my own mind as to the cause and i'm happy with 7740.maybe the issue will get addressed down the line.
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thanks for the replies guys. as someone who was just getting to grips with reg edit on my touchpro2 from what i've seen so far reg edit on 7.5 is not quite the same. i'm content in my own mind as to the cause and i'm happy with 7740.maybe the issue will get addressed down the line.
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Stevov mate, the issue isn't with 8107. If your phone, any phone, any OS, any update - is going to keep looking for 3g or keep jumping between 2g/3g it keeps radio active, using up battery. You either need to just choose 2g, if you can or move to a 3g area (that's not happening, is it?). But if 7740 makes that radio a little calmer for you, perhaps its a placebo effect?
aye Drupad, Wee Bear over on wpcentral says i should move too.phone is happily running on 2g 12 hours off the charger everything on and 82% battery left.if there was just something like skyfire or operamini for browsing i would be a happy man but from what i hear thats not till ie10.in a world of 3 and 4g i live in 2g
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do you guys realize that the time is just an average based on your use? .
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He is right. I don't have a source but I've followed my battery status very carefully and came to the same conclusion. I have a friend with an LG C900 and he doesn't use data connection (which is what drains battery the most) and his estimated battery is 4 days and a few hours.
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Yeah I haven't found documentation on this but as said above, if you follow your battery status you will see. Use the phone hard, check battery, it will say left. Let it sit for an hour, and it will say more. Now as the e
Weeks do by it will average out and not fluctuate as much. ( mine now usually says 13-14 hours on work days and 17 on weekends)
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Yeah I haven't found documentation on this but as said above, if you follow your battery status you will see. Use the phone hard, check battery, it will say left. Let it sit for an hour, and it will say more. Now as the e
Weeks do by it will average out and not fluctuate as much. ( mine now usually says 13-14 hours on work days and 17 on weekends)
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Interesting. I'm gonna have to check that out. But that's kind of odd, shouldn't it be the reverse? So like if you used your phone hard shouldn't it be optimizing itself so that you'll have more reserve versus the days you use the phone less?
so i got the nexus couple days ago and i have been previously on at&t with galaxy s2 of course the internet was slower there so it was kind of harder to reach that 2gb limit.
Now i wanted to ask do you guys know any good software that will show me exactly how much each program is eating the bandwidth?
i know the built in ics meter usage but i dont really trust it.
So far i checked that the go weather widget was using 0.01 kb of data each few minutes so i turned off the auto update ( i did 300 megs somehow in 2days)
i know speedtests really take a lot so i dont do them anymore
i also listened to sirius xm for like 20 minutes but even on at&t it wouldnt eat as much data.
Thanks guys
Why don't you trust the built in data usage app? It's not perfect, but even if its within 50mb of the actual, that's an acceptable measure.
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Why don't you trust the built in data usage app? It's not perfect, but even if its within 50mb of the actual, that's an acceptable measure.
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It's not within 50MB lol. Last month I went through around 3GB and it said I used like 2.7GB. A difference of 10% is pretty big when you have a data limit...it could mean spending an extra $30 that month.
OP, check out 3G Watch Dog. Best data-monitoring solution on the market. Set how much data you get per month and when your billing period starts (just like the ICS built-in one) and it'll keep you updated with what you're doing. It's not perfect for monitoring specific apps either, but the overall total is usually exact (since it monitors at the last possible point before exiting/entering the phone).
I find Network Counter to be pretty effective...
So I have noticed that my note 3 has been reporting high data usage than I normally do. my verizon nexus did an avg of 5gb while this thing has been known to register 10-20gb a month. With the same usage between the two phones and phone companies. (using data usage in settings)
T-mobile registered me using 12.6973 GB / Unlimited Non-Shared for one month. My phone says I used 13.67gb for the same time period. However, I actually added up all the data used by each app individually and got 4.08gb of usage. (and I counted 60 apps using less than 1mb as 1mb each)
I can't possibly be using 8+gb of data that the phone aint counting am I? Do you have similar results?
Here is my math proof
2 apps using more than a gb of data = 2.3gb data
all apps measured in mb = 1771.21 mb. Converted to gb = 1.729697266 gb data
60 apps using less than 1mb counted as 60mb data converted to gb = 0.0585938 gb data
added up == 4.088291066 gb data used
Can't help you with your missing data, but I just did rough estimate on mine and it adds up pretty well to the totals showed, but I'm nowhere near your totals. The discrepancy between bill and phone could be data used over wifi or slightly different cutoff time (phone could be running totals until midnight your local time and T-mo could be using pacific time).
If I had to make totally wild guess, I remember once somebody posted something about some program going wild on his phone and using gigabytes of data in a matter of days, don't remember the outcome, if it was virus or just crashed program in a loop accessing internet at random, but maybe you should start with some full reset or something. Also maybe look for a better program monitoring your data access and usage. I would be concerned and tried to figure it out, if it was my phone, especially that I have 2GB high speed limit, LOL. Is your phone set up as mobile hot spot? Could somebody else use data from your phone? Did you run virus check?
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Can't help you with your missing data, but I just did rough estimate on mine and it adds up pretty well to the totals showed, but I'm nowhere near your totals. The discrepancy between bill and phone could be data used over wifi or slightly different cutoff time (phone could be running totals until midnight your local time and T-mo could be using pacific time).
If I had to make totally wild guess, I remember once somebody posted something about some program going wild on his phone and using gigabytes of data in a matter of days, don't remember the outcome, if it was virus or just crashed program in a loop accessing internet at random, but maybe you should start with some full reset or something. Also maybe look for a better program monitoring your data access and usage. I would be concerned and tried to figure it out, if it was my phone, especially that I have 2GB high speed limit, LOL. Is your phone set up as mobile hot spot? Could somebody else use data from your phone? Did you run virus check?
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this has been going on since I got the phone brand new. I have unlimited so i wasn't too worried, but after months of repetition, i'm trying to get to the bottom of it. virus scan is good with two programs.
Hello there,
I am currently writing a review for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. The site I work with focuses on longer term reviews (90 days or more) and the ability of technology products to match lifestyles; we focus on real world use, not features and specs.
In the case of the Note 4, we have been reviewing two variants of the device, an AT&T variant and one through T-Mobile.
During the review process, we noticed that the battery life, with around 2 hours of on screen time per day, varied between 6-9 hours. Device encryption was not turned on during this time. This was similar between the two variants.
We recently upgraded our AT&T device to Lollipop. After the upgrade, our battery life diminished by over an hour, down to around an average of 5-8 hours, with still around 2 hours of battery life. We also noticed significant stuttering in the UI, which was surprising, since the new ART runtime is supposed to be faster. We then turned on device encryption...ouch.
After turning on encryption, we have been getting around 8-9 hours of battery life, but with only an average of 15 minutes of on screen time. In addition, the security storage (com.sec.Android.providers.security) process routinely spikes up, with the entire CPU being maxed out for hours at a time.
At this point, our review for the Note 4, and indirectly Lollipop, will not be great.
That said, we really want to give the Note 4, and Android in general, a fair shake. As such, we are reaching out to experienced Android users to get worthwhile suggestions on what we might do to address the battery life issues.
Here are some pertinent facts:
-We have a 64 GB micro SD in the slot.
-The device has 2.7 GB of free space.
-Our network signal ranges from 3-5 bars most of the day, with some spots that we frequent down to two bars.
Needing to remove the SD card is possible, but it would be a ding against the device, and the OS to a certain extent, as the ability to use external storage is a plus for some users, especially when built in storage is limited to 32GB.
Please see the attached screenshots for more details.
This request will also be posted on Android Central for a broader audience.
We are trying to be as impartial as possible, so your help is appreciated.
Best regards,
Eric
I used to have an issue with my battery life dropping due to the media scanner as well. The card i was using came strsight from my old phone. I noticed that my phone was hardly entering deep sleep with the card in. If I took out the card, the phone would suddenly sleep. I ended up reformatting my card.
Try this:
Take the card out of the phone and don't use the phone for about and hour. Turn the phone on and look at the battery stats. Tdp the graph and see if the phone was sleeping during that hour.
If so, do (A)
If not, then there's a different problem. Try doing a factory reset, especially if just updated to Lollipop.
(A)
1) move all apps to internal storage (settings-application manager- SD card. Make sure everything is unchecked)
2) back up all music, pictures, etc that's on the card. Don't backup the Android folder. Only your files.
4) put card back into phone
5) go to settings-storage and format the external card (don't use a computer)
6) put your files back on the card
Thanks for the advice. I thought of that this morning, turned off the phone with a full charge in it and removed the card. Then started up the phone around noon. We'll see how long it lasts now, and if the security storage process maxes out.
Turn off enhanced lte services in mobile data, that helps with battery life
What is the site you are writing for please.
I didn't want to post the name of the site as I didn't want to get in trouble for "advertising". If that's ok with the moderators, I will post it.
By the way, without the SD Card in place, we are at over 12 hours since last charge, with around 45 min of screen on time: much better than before. Battery left is 54%. I will rebuild the SD card tomorrow and see if that results in improved life with the SD card in place.
Security storage is still way too active though. Averaging around 6-14% CPU.
How long ago was the phone updated to Lollipop? It took my phone 3-4 days to "settle in." It started with things constantly running in the background, then after 3 or 4 days the phone just suddenly took a chill pill and battery life improved dramatically.
It's been over a week at this point. Are you using an SD card with your phone? I'll be copying the data off of mine and replacing it to see what happens.
Today the phone was on without charging since 7 am. Currently at 15% power at 1030 pm. About 2 hours 10 min on screen time.
Better than before, but I would prefer more on screen time with some power to spare at the end of the day. We'll see what happens after I add in the SD card tomorrow.
I'm easily hitting 7 hours (sometimes more) screen on time per charge. If you're only getting less than three, somethin' ain't right.
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Jack man: how many apps do you have? Are you running with encryption turned on? How much free space do you have?
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Jack man: how many apps do you have? Are you running with encryption turned on? How much free space do you have?
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I think I counted close to 100 apps on my play store list. No encryption. And my storage is two-thirds full. I stream music in my car quite often and have a lot of music saved on the device on the Google Music App, use the snote app a lot (I'm a teacher). I've disabled a lot of the bloatware that came on the phone, etc.
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Interesting ok. Our review phone is set up with lollipop, stock, no root, all bloatware intact. The reason being is that we test for the average user, users who not not know how to root their phones.
There are a lot of other review sites that provide reviews for experts and phone "techies", but those sites focus on features and specs. They also test battery life without bloatware, as optimized as possible. That's great for their audience, but not for ours.
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It's been over a week at this point. Are you using an SD card with your phone? I'll be copying the data off of mine and replacing it to see what happens.
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Ok, then the OS should have settled by now.
Yes, im using a 64GB Sandisk with about 70% space used.
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Dark77star said:
Today the phone was on without charging since 7 am. Currently at 15% power at 1030 pm. About 2 hours 10 min on screen time.
Better than before, but I would prefer more on screen time with some power to spare at the end of the day. We'll see what happens after I add in the SD card tomorrow.
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Your phone is still waking up way too often. Id start checking apps. Something seems to be waking the phone up for some reason. It could be pinging for location, syncing data, or checking for updates. It could be Facebook too if you have that logged in.
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You could also have a defective unit. My old phone had a cpu that went bad and it caused the cpu to not enter deep sleep. Does the phone get really hot? I mean REALLY hot. A little heat is normal, but if it hurts, then its too hot.
Interesting. It did get hot and still does, but not blisteringly so.
Facebook is logged in and is one of the apps that we use in testing, along with Twitter, etc, as most "regular" users are also users of Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Facebook sucks a lot of power on an iPhone as well, so that doesn't surprise me. On Windows phone, it hardly uses any power. I wonder if the Windows Phone OS is better at forcing apps to hibernate than iOS and Android.
Is there a way to force Facebook to stay shut down unless actually in use?
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Is there a way to force Facebook to stay shut down unless actually in use?
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Go into apps and disable two apps:
Com.facebook.appmanager and com.facebook.system. I disabled them and the main FB app still runs very smooth with no problems. I think these two apps related to FB are trying to link your FB account to your Samsung account.
Also, go into wifi settings and uncheck the boxes about scanning for wifi even when off
So that wifi is only actually on when you have it enabled.
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