Hello there,
I am currently writing a review for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4. The site I work with focuses on longer term reviews (90 days or more) and the ability of technology products to match lifestyles; we focus on real world use, not features and specs.
In the case of the Note 4, we have been reviewing two variants of the device, an AT&T variant and one through T-Mobile.
During the review process, we noticed that the battery life, with around 2 hours of on screen time per day, varied between 6-9 hours. Device encryption was not turned on during this time. This was similar between the two variants.
We recently upgraded our AT&T device to Lollipop. After the upgrade, our battery life diminished by over an hour, down to around an average of 5-8 hours, with still around 2 hours of battery life. We also noticed significant stuttering in the UI, which was surprising, since the new ART runtime is supposed to be faster. We then turned on device encryption...ouch.
After turning on encryption, we have been getting around 8-9 hours of battery life, but with only an average of 15 minutes of on screen time. In addition, the security storage (com.sec.Android.providers.security) process routinely spikes up, with the entire CPU being maxed out for hours at a time.
At this point, our review for the Note 4, and indirectly Lollipop, will not be great.
That said, we really want to give the Note 4, and Android in general, a fair shake. As such, we are reaching out to experienced Android users to get worthwhile suggestions on what we might do to address the battery life issues.
Here are some pertinent facts:
-We have a 64 GB micro SD in the slot.
-The device has 2.7 GB of free space.
-Our network signal ranges from 3-5 bars most of the day, with some spots that we frequent down to two bars.
Needing to remove the SD card is possible, but it would be a ding against the device, and the OS to a certain extent, as the ability to use external storage is a plus for some users, especially when built in storage is limited to 32GB.
Please see the attached screenshots for more details.
This request will also be posted on Android Central for a broader audience.
We are trying to be as impartial as possible, so your help is appreciated.
Best regards,
Eric
I used to have an issue with my battery life dropping due to the media scanner as well. The card i was using came strsight from my old phone. I noticed that my phone was hardly entering deep sleep with the card in. If I took out the card, the phone would suddenly sleep. I ended up reformatting my card.
Try this:
Take the card out of the phone and don't use the phone for about and hour. Turn the phone on and look at the battery stats. Tdp the graph and see if the phone was sleeping during that hour.
If so, do (A)
If not, then there's a different problem. Try doing a factory reset, especially if just updated to Lollipop.
(A)
1) move all apps to internal storage (settings-application manager- SD card. Make sure everything is unchecked)
2) back up all music, pictures, etc that's on the card. Don't backup the Android folder. Only your files.
4) put card back into phone
5) go to settings-storage and format the external card (don't use a computer)
6) put your files back on the card
Thanks for the advice. I thought of that this morning, turned off the phone with a full charge in it and removed the card. Then started up the phone around noon. We'll see how long it lasts now, and if the security storage process maxes out.
Turn off enhanced lte services in mobile data, that helps with battery life
What is the site you are writing for please.
I didn't want to post the name of the site as I didn't want to get in trouble for "advertising". If that's ok with the moderators, I will post it.
By the way, without the SD Card in place, we are at over 12 hours since last charge, with around 45 min of screen on time: much better than before. Battery left is 54%. I will rebuild the SD card tomorrow and see if that results in improved life with the SD card in place.
Security storage is still way too active though. Averaging around 6-14% CPU.
How long ago was the phone updated to Lollipop? It took my phone 3-4 days to "settle in." It started with things constantly running in the background, then after 3 or 4 days the phone just suddenly took a chill pill and battery life improved dramatically.
It's been over a week at this point. Are you using an SD card with your phone? I'll be copying the data off of mine and replacing it to see what happens.
Today the phone was on without charging since 7 am. Currently at 15% power at 1030 pm. About 2 hours 10 min on screen time.
Better than before, but I would prefer more on screen time with some power to spare at the end of the day. We'll see what happens after I add in the SD card tomorrow.
I'm easily hitting 7 hours (sometimes more) screen on time per charge. If you're only getting less than three, somethin' ain't right.
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Jack man: how many apps do you have? Are you running with encryption turned on? How much free space do you have?
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Jack man: how many apps do you have? Are you running with encryption turned on? How much free space do you have?
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I think I counted close to 100 apps on my play store list. No encryption. And my storage is two-thirds full. I stream music in my car quite often and have a lot of music saved on the device on the Google Music App, use the snote app a lot (I'm a teacher). I've disabled a lot of the bloatware that came on the phone, etc.
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Interesting ok. Our review phone is set up with lollipop, stock, no root, all bloatware intact. The reason being is that we test for the average user, users who not not know how to root their phones.
There are a lot of other review sites that provide reviews for experts and phone "techies", but those sites focus on features and specs. They also test battery life without bloatware, as optimized as possible. That's great for their audience, but not for ours.
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It's been over a week at this point. Are you using an SD card with your phone? I'll be copying the data off of mine and replacing it to see what happens.
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Ok, then the OS should have settled by now.
Yes, im using a 64GB Sandisk with about 70% space used.
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Today the phone was on without charging since 7 am. Currently at 15% power at 1030 pm. About 2 hours 10 min on screen time.
Better than before, but I would prefer more on screen time with some power to spare at the end of the day. We'll see what happens after I add in the SD card tomorrow.
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Your phone is still waking up way too often. Id start checking apps. Something seems to be waking the phone up for some reason. It could be pinging for location, syncing data, or checking for updates. It could be Facebook too if you have that logged in.
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You could also have a defective unit. My old phone had a cpu that went bad and it caused the cpu to not enter deep sleep. Does the phone get really hot? I mean REALLY hot. A little heat is normal, but if it hurts, then its too hot.
Interesting. It did get hot and still does, but not blisteringly so.
Facebook is logged in and is one of the apps that we use in testing, along with Twitter, etc, as most "regular" users are also users of Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Facebook sucks a lot of power on an iPhone as well, so that doesn't surprise me. On Windows phone, it hardly uses any power. I wonder if the Windows Phone OS is better at forcing apps to hibernate than iOS and Android.
Is there a way to force Facebook to stay shut down unless actually in use?
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Is there a way to force Facebook to stay shut down unless actually in use?
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Go into apps and disable two apps:
Com.facebook.appmanager and com.facebook.system. I disabled them and the main FB app still runs very smooth with no problems. I think these two apps related to FB are trying to link your FB account to your Samsung account.
Also, go into wifi settings and uncheck the boxes about scanning for wifi even when off
So that wifi is only actually on when you have it enabled.
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Hi Everyone,
I thought id share the amazing battery life im having, ive had it going for 48 hours so far and still got 45% of my battery still left, ill tell you all my set up and i wish you can get the same.
Installed LeeDroids rom (1.9a) which is absolutely amazing i must say, i love it.
Got the new radio 32.44.00.32u_5.09.05.30_2.
SetCPU running and have the normal standby on the phone at 642mhz and 245mhz when the screen is off.
I also have a task killer on set to kill most apps when the screen turns off and i have read about androids memory management but it makes me feel better when i run it and i personally think it helps.
Finally, and possibly the most important is an app called AutoKiller that interacts with androids internal memory management system and i have that set to ultimate.
I think thats it, and i have been using the phone averagely, and have turned off wifi and mobile internet and only use it when i need it.
Good luck everyone, hope this is helpful in someway.
It was interesting to read until you said this
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have turned off wifi and mobile internet and only use it when i need it.
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I personally refuse to turn off internet (wifi or mobile, same thing) on my SMARTPHONE. Cmon, that is why I bought it, because of the internet, and the fun things to do on it. If I use it for calls/sms only, I would have gotten something much cheaper.
Anyway, with hard usage my battery lasts for like 20 hours, and that is enough for me. I don't mind connecting it to a charger before I fall asleep, and disconnecting it when I wake up. Still I use the 1GHz CPU and the options the phone has fully
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... have turned off wifi and mobile internet and only use it when i need it.
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I personally refuse to turn off internet (wifi or mobile, same thing) on my SMARTPHONE. Cmon, that is why I bought it...
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I'll have to agree with ljesh on this. If you deprive your smartphone of internet access, you've just turned it into a feature-phone.
But, I think you should turn off WiFi when you're not using it. That's just the smart thing to do...
Is there a battery of the same size with a higher capacity?
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No, there isin't.
Just a quick update i ended up getting 63 hours out of one charge!
And i dont need to read what the weather is every 5 minutes thats the reason i dont generally keep mobile internet on... I just look up at the sky it tells me exactly what i need to know!
Well, I have tried this and wow - what a difference, lol.
I am mostly around WiFi connections all day, so just use that instead for all my syncs. Mobile internet is used when I am out of range for short periods of time.
Thanks for the tip - works wonders.
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1. Turn on Airplane mode all the time and don't wake the device from standby. According to the specs, the device will last up to 340 hours (ie, over 2 weeks).
2. Leave the device completely off. It will be months before your battery completely drains.
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Don't mind me, I'm just joking around.
But seriously, it would be interesting to know the battery life of a device set to your specifications but with mobile internet on. Turning it off, just seems like cheating, similar to how CPU overclock enthusiasts achieve crazy clockspeeds with liquid nitrogen cooling. Sure, you achieved your milestone, but is that really how the device is intended to be used?
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1. Turn on Airplane mode all the time and don't wake the device from standby. According to the specs, the device will last up to 340 hours (ie, over 2 weeks).
2. Leave the device completely off. It will be months before your battery completely drains.
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Don't mind me, I'm just joking around.
But seriously, it would be interesting to know the battery life of a device set to your specifications but with mobile internet on. Turning it off, just seems like cheating, similar to how CPU overclock enthusiasts achieve crazy clockspeeds with liquid nitrogen cooling. Sure, you achieved your milestone, but is that really how the device is intended to be used?
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Why do you count network off as cheating. Why should it be on if you don't need it?
I am leaving network off most of the time, just switch it on when I want to surf or update my calendar/emails. Use Wifi whenever available. And SetCPU to minimize clock speed while the display is off.
Most email come from Softbank Japan thru a MMS type email application. Its a push mail system and you do not need to have network on for receiving it.
With this settings I get up to 24h, depending on who long I travel and read ebooks.
Not my intention to sound antagonistic. "Cheating" may be too strong of a word. Here's what I'm trying to say.
Obviously, it's up to the user to decide how to use the device. But what's also obvious is that the device cannot be fully utilized without an always-on connectivity.
Without an always-on connectivity, a lot of the widgets and applications instantly become useless or crippled.
Sure, not everyone uses widgets or applications that require always-on connectivity. But I'm willing to wager that a majority of the Desire user community utilizes such widgets and applications; so turning off mobile internet is just not an option for these people.
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Not my intention to sound antagonistic. "Cheating" may be too strong of a word. Here's what I'm trying to say.
Obviously, it's up to the user to decide how to use the device. But what's also obvious is that the device cannot be fully utilized without an always-on connectivity.
Without an always-on connectivity, a lot of the widgets and applications instantly become useless or crippled.
Sure, not everyone uses widgets or applications that require always-on connectivity. But I'm willing to wager that a majority of the Desire user community utilizes such widgets and applications; so turning off mobile internet is just not an option for these people.
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I tend to agree.
I need the network to always be on, and so leave it so - though sometimes, I will put the phone into airplane mode overnight if I remember. Generally though I don't as I usually charge overnight anyway.
On Sunday night though, I'd charged the phone during the day and so didn't charge overnight. I used the phone quite heavily during the day, and in the evening watched about 3 hours worth of DivX video via RockPlayer. My phone complained of less than 15% charge after 26 hours, which to me was quite impressive given my usage, and I don't use *any* tweaks such as SetCPU or a task killers (which are placebos anyway).
Personally, if I can get a full day from my phone I'm happy - and I can do that with the Desire without having to do anything.
Regards,
Dave
Aight so I downloaded juice defender free last night cause I've been having battery heat problems.....but it shuts off my 3g connection when the screen goes off and I can't seem to find the setting for it....I use Pandora radio so this is a bit of a *****.....any solutions?
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Thats pretty much the only thing Juice Defender free does that can save your battery, that and turning off wifi too. So if you disable it why even have Juice Defender installed? I too tried the free version for about 2 days and could never get my wifi or 3g to come back on so I uninstalled it and thanked god I hadn't paid $10 for the paid version. IMO its crap.
Juice defender is terrible. It kills your battery. well thats my experience...
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I was using it mainly because I wanted to see if it would help my temperature problems but it didn't....it just effed me up more
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Terrible app. If it does anything then it kills the battery... Brings android system to the top of the usage list, because it shuts off 3g and wifi..
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Screen is still the top on my usage.
I have the paid version. It gives you the ability to lock items (like Pandora) "on" for data usage. Then, they don't get killed.
I had amazing battery life with it on my D1. Jury is still out on the Incredible. I'm still working through ROMs and Kernels.
I use it also. It has this new feature that you can tell it your local wireless and leave it alone. Problem is it doesn't work. Keeps shutting off my wireless when I'm using it! Very frustrating.
Also their developer is not very accessible. They want all issues solved through their forums. I hate that...The best software also has an accessible support system.
The one good thing I will say about it is it has the potential for taking over all aspects of managing your phone. A one stop shop. Just not there yet...
I used to use Juice Defender with 2.1 and found that it helped battery life. However, with Froyo, it just made the phone unstable. (It'd just sponaneously reboot sitting on my hip 2-3 times a day.) After uninstalling all is well.
A co-orker's Sprint phone had the same flakyness until he uninstalled JD.
Wild! I have never had random reboots. But, we all know how unique these devices are... even between the same model.
With warm twopointtwo, it doesn't seem to be turning on all the time... or warm is somehow killing it.
dbaps - are you still in 'training' for the wifi? It takes JD a couple of times to fully learn your location (based off of towers) and remember that as a wifi location. Check under the settings...it'll tell you what percentage of training it has completed.
Those of you who say its crap obviously dont have it configured correctly. I bought "ultimate juice" and when you go into the custom or aggressive profiles you can tweak everything until your heart's content! It still seems to shut off data when Im streaming stuff with slacker and connected to wifi, even though I tell it not to. Other than that it definitely will give you a few extra hours if you spend the time to configure it properly.
Terrible app!
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Those of you who say its crap obviously dont have it configured correctly. I bought "ultimate juice" and when you go into the custom or aggressive profiles you can tweak everything until your heart's content! It still seems to shut off data when Im streaming stuff with slacker and connected to wifi, even though I tell it not to. Other than that it definitely will give you a few extra hours if you spend the time to configure it properly.
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There is no correct configuration to this app. That is why it is called "Custom". The reason it is CRAP is due to the reason you list as a problem among numerous other features that don't work.
Seriously, why have an option to automatically tweak CPU values if the option doesn't work with 99% of the kernels on the market, which also includes the STOCK kernel?
Yeah, it's a GREAT app!
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Wild! I have never had random reboots. But, we all know how unique these devices are... even between the same model.
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True. For clarity's sake, I was using JD free so I don't know if any other version would have been better or worse. It's possible that the complex WiFi network at work (multiple APs per floor with a centralized controller) confused things.
My phone is a droid incredible, the co-worker's is a Sprint Epic. Different symptoms - he had phone lockups requiring battery removal to recover. Rooted, re-ROMed and still crashing until Juice Defender removed.
If you use Ultimate Juice and set up things correctly. This programs rocks.
It will turn on and off your data (3g and wifi) when you need it (according to the conditions you set).
It takes a little bit of reading and intuition, trial and error, and PATIENCE.
Use it for more than 1 day. Your phone usage varies day to day.
Again, read the text, THINK, and setup the conditions according to the way YOU need them.
I get at least 20-40% more battery depending on how I use my phone. I rarely charge mid-day any more and I can count on my phone having battery throughout the most useful hours of the day.
On light to moderate use, I get at least 14-18 hours. Just for fun, I once tested it and got about 29 hours before the battery hit 5%. That's with a little texting and a few phone calls. I use the stock, standard capacity battery as well.
SET IT UP RIGHT!
I've had no issues with JD running on 2.2.
Set on Aggressive. Only annoying thing is that I get the error notification icon for Weatherbug Elite every two hours because data is shut off.
First - I've got the most recent JD installed. The old one was kind of lame. People have made some good points, but there is a lot of incorrect information in this thread...
It works. If you are *NOT* actively using your phone, it will save your battery by disabling communication you don't need. I can go to bed at 80%, wake up 7 hours later at 79%, maybe 78% at the worst case.
If you are using your phone, it's quite nice - it comes on quickly - and manages my network well (at home, uses WiFi, elsewhere - 3G).
It's not $10.
My wife is using the free version and has had zero problems.
I've never tried aggressive, but maybe I will.
I cant comment on the CPU stuff - never used that.
Scott
I've never had a problem either. I'm running Skyraider 3.5 with incredikernal 2.6.32.27. I have the free version set on advanced. The best battery lift I've gotten with light phone use, texting, data syncing and browsing was 72 hours. Same use with stock rom and kernal my best was about 18 hours before I needed to charge. I know everyone is different, but that's my experience.
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First - I've got the most recent JD installed. The old one was kind of lame. People have made some good points, but there is a lot of incorrect information in this thread...
It works. If you are *NOT* actively using your phone, it will save your battery by disabling communication you don't need. I can go to bed at 80%, wake up 7 hours later at 79%, maybe 78% at the worst case.
If you are using your phone, it's quite nice - it comes on quickly - and manages my network well (at home, uses WiFi, elsewhere - 3G).
It's not $10.
My wife is using the free version and has had zero problems.
I've never tried aggressive, but maybe I will.
I cant comment on the CPU stuff - never used that.
Scott
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When I tried it back last Fall the paid version was indeed $10, its now down to $5. Which I still believe is way too much for this app. My 3g would not turn back on no mater what I did and yes I read the tutorials many times and had it set properly.
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First - I've got the most recent JD installed. The old one was kind of lame. People have made some good points, but there is a lot of incorrect information in this thread...
It works.
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Perhaps for you. For me (stock ROM on my dinc) it made the phone unusable. Calling that observation "crap" or "lame" is convenient, but doesn't reflect the experience that I had (and which others had).
Again, with Android 2.1 JD did help a great deal. With 2.2, it didn't help battery life but made the phone crash. This was not a positive trade-off.
With froyo, I can go two days on my incredible between charges given light usage without it. Why put up with the instability just to get a few extra hours of battery life?
For example, I'm currently at 62% after 15 hours since unplugged with moderate usage of the phone, with WiFi and Bluetooth enabled. I could just turn off Bluetooth except when I'm in the car, but I doubt it'd buy me more than a few extra hours of useful life.
Juice defender has caused me multiple problems. Was the source of phantom call drops and sleep of death!! As soon ad I removed it, problems solved.
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Also corrupted two SD cards, losing all my files, because of sleeps and reboot caused by JD. Does not play well with Z and HD roms at all. Works at first but soon became the cause of a lot of problems.
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......
Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it
As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.
Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.
I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.
I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.
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Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!
I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.
Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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So recently my battery life went from absolutely amazing to terrible (just went from 100% to 83 percent with 30 min SOT and 3 hrs off the charger) does anyone know a good app that will tell me what the hell is digging through my battery life so bad? The only thing I have connected is the android wear watch, and surely that wouldn't hinder my battery life that much, would it? Thanks to anyone that replies, I just want my old battery life back.
if you recently took the OTA then go in to recovery to clear the cache partition
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if you recently took the OTA then go in to recovery to clear the cache partition
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I already tried that, to no avail..
what does your battery screen look like?
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what does your battery screen look like?
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I plugged it up or I would show you, I uninstalled some things and it seems to be helping quite a bit. Seems like Facebook was the one that really helped.
Yes we have been talking this on the "At&t OTA" thread. Check over there, there are a couple small solutions people have. None have worked for me my battery life is HORRID post update. I've done a reset, cleared cache, etc
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Yes we have been talking this on the "At&t OTA" thread. Check over there, there are a couple small solutions people have. None have worked for me my battery life is HORRID post update. I've done a reset, cleared cache, etc
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Mine has been terrible since the NK3 OTA as well. It's a shame that they couldn't just leave it alone. I was enjoying it so much more when I was squeezing 5 hours SOT.
after taking the NK3 update, my battery life was still amazing, until tonight. I didnt update anything (no app updates and no new apps installed) but my battery went from 50% to 30% in about 10 minutes. I cleared cache and rebooted and it went from 30% to 0% in about 15 minutes. I dont understand why all of a sudden, it died so quickly. Only thing I can think of is that I switched to ART about two days ago. It was fine until this evening, when the phone completely fell on its face. It was running extremely slow, even after I killed all running apps, thats when the battery dropped. I'm switching back to dalvik and we'll see what happens.
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after taking the NK3 update, my battery life was still amazing, until tonight. I didnt update anything (no app updates and no new apps installed) but my battery went from 50% to 30% in about 10 minutes. I cleared cache and rebooted and it went from 30% to 0% in about 15 minutes. I dont understand why all of a sudden, it died so quickly. Only thing I can think of is that I switched to ART about two days ago. It was fine until this evening, when the phone completely fell on its face. It was running extremely slow, even after I killed all running apps, thats when the battery dropped. I'm switching back to dalvik and we'll see what happens.
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I'm still on dalvik, so that isn't the problem. They have probably done something that has messed with a radio or something to set up the enhanced 4G services.
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I'm still on dalvik, so that isn't the problem. They have probably done something that has messed with a radio or something to set up the enhanced 4G services.
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Yeah, my battery life has taken a major blow too. I used to get 6+ hours of screen on time and now barely 4 if lucky. What the hell.
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Yeah, my battery life has taken a major blow too. I used to get 6+ hours of screen on time and now barely 4 if lucky. What the hell.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one experiencing this. This tells me that it isn't a rogue app.
OK guys, here is an odd question. What do you do for a living? Is there anyone that would benefit by listening in to your device? I know it sounds weird, but your phone may be active when you think it isn't, including the camera, mics, GPS etc. I get these unexplained battery drains too, and my wife has the identical device and near identical app setup (and we both have the update) and her battery is much better. Its one of only two things i can think of.
Here's the other: not using the supplied charger. I regularly use other chargers when my wife refuses to do so.
Anyway, just my mad ideas
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OK guys, here is an odd question. What do you do for a living? Is there anyone that would benefit by listening in to your device? I know it sounds weird, but your phone may be active when you think it isn't, including the camera, mics, GPS etc. I get these unexplained battery drains too, and my wife has the identical device and near identical app setup (and we both have the update) and her battery is much better. Its one of only two things i can think of.
Here's the other: not using the supplied charger. I regularly use other chargers when my wife refuses to do so.
Anyway, just my mad ideas
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I'm just a 19 year old nurse aid.. I highly doubt anyone would benefit from monitoring me. And I use the stock charger.
In all honesty I went through and found a bunch of apps I personally don't use to disable, such as instagram and some other apps such as that, you may also want to see if your mobile signal is having issues or your wifi is having issues, both those items will cause battery drain, I turned off a bunch of apps and my phones been unplugged for almost 6 hours and I have over an hour of that as screen time, I'm down to 88%, I work at att so I'm always showing my phones off and demoing them, I disabled 21 apps I have no use fore and my free ram is just about a gig, you just gotta dig a bit to find what's always on.
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In all honesty I went through and found a bunch of apps I personally don't use to disable, such as instagram and some other apps such as that, you may also want to see if your mobile signal is having issues or your wifi is having issues, both those items will cause battery drain, I turned off a bunch of apps and my phones been unplugged for almost 6 hours and I have over an hour of that as screen time, I'm down to 88%, I work at att so I'm always showing my phones off and demoing them, I disabled 21 apps I have no use fore and my free ram is just about a gig, you just gotta dig a bit to find what's always on.
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Care to compile a list of what you disabled?
Amazon
Att locker
Att family maps
Att live
Att mail
Att mobile locate
Att navigator
Att ready to go
Caller name I'd
Drive mode
Games
Google play movies and TV
Google +
Instagram
Keeper
Lookout
Milk
Mobile TV
Smart remote
Uber
Yellow pages
Soft card
I used task killer, found any apps that were running which I didn't use and disabled or Un-installed them. Then went from there as to what else ran I didn't want.
My wife keeps on bugging me that after the update her battery on her note 4 is ****ty to the point that it would drain in 6 hours.
Go to the thread where you disable Knox.. It has a adb command you can send to phone that disables close to 100 apps.. Try it and see if it helps.
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Today I had 4hours OST and was at 50%
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Go to the thread where you disable Knox.. It has a adb command you can send to phone that disables close to 100 apps.. Try it and see if it helps.
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Today I had 4hours OST and was at 50%
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Were you experiencing issues before?
not sure what you mean by bad.. every one's usage of the phone is different.. i was getting around 4 hours OST.. when using the phone regularly.. playing CoC, answering emails, whatsapp, messaging...
sometime i got 3 hours.. some time i got 5.. some time it ran away so i had to reboot.
i believe about 75% that disabling some of the software did help with battery life while the phone is sleeping. but i've only recently disabled bunch of stuff
Recently bought a brand new S20+ 5G Exynos and it's running the latest March Security Patch update for Android 11. Problem is, after successfully rooting and killing off some of the ****ty bloatware that Samsung is obsessed to ship with it's Smartphones like Bixby, Samsung cloud, samsung games, pass, and much much more, my S20+ is losing single digit after every few minutes of just bare minimum usage like Browsing through apps, opening a simple utility or app or just wandering through the Settings Menu. I said it BARE MINIMUM since these activities do not cost so much pressure on the battery as running videos, games, installing and deleting and things alike. As I said, I turned off all the unncessary things like GPS, Display Brightness set to almost 20-30%, using BREVENT to keep all the background memory clear off of the background apps. I am not running any games, videos for that matter but my battery consistently losing a digit after every 8 mins I would say on these bare minimum activities. Sometimes even opening the screen and just scrolling through the app drawer drops 2 digits within 10 minutes. I set the display pixels to the lowest minimum and also disable the 125 Hz display smoothness effect.
I read in some posts that since Android 11, many users complained about constant and persisting battery drainage across multiple smartphone brands including Google Pixel users..
I am thinking of reverting back to Android 10 for my S20+. What do you people suggest?
What process/app is draining battery?
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What process/app is draining battery?
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As I said, nothing special in the Battery Usage as well. All the main components like Display and other multiple core system services are hardly using 2% and below.
if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it aswell.
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if you used a backup to setup the phone (smart switch etc) this can cause battery drain. this is my personal experience. if you dont have 5g in your area disable it as well.
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I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
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I did not use Smart Switch. It came fresh out of the box. My brother sent it to me from Saudi Arabia. I just reflashed it with the Android 11 KSA Stock Rom and simply rooted it. Also disable Bixby **** and other unwanted Sammy Bloatware.
Yes, I do not have 5G currently in my area and my country as a whole except some 5G Trials.
How to disable 5G???
BTW I charged my Phone and I turned WIFI OFF. It just stayed there and I picked up the phone and just opened it and just used it for a couple of seconds and the battery came down from 99 to 97% on just simple Unlock and simple APP DRAWER browsing with WIFI Being off all this time.
Then I just opened the camera and took a couple of selfie shots and battery came down from 96% to 94% in just 2 mins. WiFi is still off. Only Sim card is active.
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has to be some service that you disabled that is needed for some other sh** from Samsung.
If I were you, I would start all again, flashing the rom, test it without rooting it... see how much is the battery drain like that.... Try that method for removing the apps thru ADB connection without root, it works (search it here in xda)