I Searched the forum but could not find an answer. I have been out of the ROM game for a few years. I know what I did was ill advised, please be merciful
I bought a Verizon Pixel 6 Pro off of Facebook. I knew to check that the IMEI was not on the stolen list and verified that it was paid off, but I get en error when I put my Visible Sim card in the phone. It says "Sim card isn't supported. Ask Verizon if this device can be unlocked."
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I called Verizon and the rep said that if I wait 60 days from the phone's original activation it should unlock automatically even though I don't have Verizon Service. The Rep said that I could use this device on Verizon Prepaid or regular service, but I have $5 months for referrals on Visible, that I would lose if I switched.
The Rep also said that you can request an unlock since the phone was paid off and IMEI was clear, but that I could not because in their system I was not the phone's owner. They could not tell me the date when the phone was activated because it would be a privacy issue.
I tried to work it out with the person I bought the phone from to get them to request the unlock, but got ghosted.
Questions:
1.) Does anyone know if it is true that my phone will unlock after 60 days without Verizon Service?
2.) If I put the phone on Verizon PrePaid service for 60 days, would that count as service and get it unlocked?
3.) If I activate on Verizon Prepaid or activate on no contract post paid will it take the last owner of the phone off of their "record" at Verizon so I can just request that the carrier lock be removed myself?
Thank you!
PS Once I get this figured out I will post what happened for anyone else that might run into this in the future.
As far as I was aware, all Verizon phones are carrier (erroneously called SIM) unlocked from the start. I've been away from Verizon for 5+ years, though, so that might've changed.
Note that just as has been said multiple times in multiple threads in this section (and every other possible phone section), that carrier unlock won't be the same as bootloader unlock, which will be impossible except by winning some kind of rare bootloader lottery, per se. (effectively never).
It's possible you don't want to unlock the bootloader since you only mention carrier unlocking, but I just wanted to head that part off just in case that's where you end up leading the conversation, so forgive me if I'm mistaken.
Hopefully, someone else with modern experience with Verizon can answer your two specific questions, however.
roirraW edor ehT said:
As far as I was aware, all Verizon phones are carrier (erroneously called SIM) unlocked from the start. I've been away from Verizon for 5+ years, though, so that might've changed.
Note that just as has been said multiple times in multiple threads in this section (and every other possible phone section), that carrier unlock won't be the same as bootloader unlock, which will be impossible except by winning some kind of rare bootloader lottery, per se. (effectively never).
It's possible you don't want to unlock the bootloader since you only mention carrier unlocking, but I just wanted to head that part off just in case that's where you end up leading the conversation, so forgive me if I'm mistaken.
Hopefully, someone else with modern experience with Verizon can answer your two specific questions, however.
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Having ROM'ed lots of phones years ago, it was my first though to be able to change it by modifying the bootloader and/or firmware. I quickly ruled that out with the search feature before posting. (bummer)
I do appreciate you pointing this out to keep this thread on track. I witnessed some of the other disasters in my searching.
Yeah it’s true Verizon locks their phone for 60 days to their network and then unlocks it automatically. I’m not exactly sure if the device has to be continuously active though to be unlocked but I know that it had to be activated and used on their network to start the timer.
What you can try doing is to use online unlock services like drsim and try to get in unlocked with imei number. It’s not free but it might be worth it if you don’t wanna wait.
Is the 60 day unlock based on network checks? Or is it something really stupid like based on the system DATE? Might be worth trying to set the clock ahead and see if that fixes it.
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Is the 60 day unlock based on network checks? Or is it something really stupid like based on the system DATE? Might be worth trying to set the clock ahead and see if that fixes it.
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I'm not sure if its based on network checks or something else. I did try to set the date ahead (2 months and a few days out) and it gave me the same message with the Visible sim card.
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Yeah it’s true Verizon locks their phone for 60 days to their network and then unlocks it automatically. I’m not exactly sure if the device has to be continuously active though to be unlocked but I know that it had to be activated and used on their network to start the timer.
What you can try doing is to use online unlock services like drsim and try to get in unlocked with imei number. It’s not free but it might be worth it if you don’t wanna wait.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I did try a couple unlock services, and they say they can't do it when I enter my info.
so what happened here i have the same issue but i got it from google and they mistakenly sent me the Verizon model
in my case the phone is new
billycar11 said:
so what happened here i have the same issue but i got it from google and they mistakenly sent me the Verizon model
in my case the phone is new
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You don't want a Verizon version... return it and get what you meant to get.
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You don't want a Verizon version... return it and get what you meant to get.
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Yeah it sucks about the locked bootloader and junk but google won't exchange it for me even though the order say unlocked and I have this.
Because it's past 15 days.
Anyway I had to call vzw like 50 time only to be told 49 times if I don't have an account we can't help you bye. It took 7 hours of calling.
I finally got them to give me a complementary esim to unlock it and now it's ok
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Yeah it sucks about the locked bootloader and junk but google won't exchange it for me even though the order say unlocked and I have this.
Because it's past 15 days.
Anyway I had to call vzw like 50 time only to be told 49 times if I don't have an account we can't help you bye. It took 7 hours of calling.
I finally got them to give me a complementary esim to unlock it and now it's ok
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That's ridiculous... they don't have a choice, 15 days or not unless you are not saying something relevant to the story.
If you ordered A and they shipped B... they have to fix it. Dispute the charge with your credit card company if needed.
trilandun said:
I Searched the forum but could not find an answer. I have been out of the ROM game for a few years. I know what I did was ill advised, please be merciful
I bought a Verizon Pixel 6 Pro off of Facebook. I knew to check that the IMEI was not on the stolen list and verified that it was paid off, but I get en error when I put my Visible Sim card in the phone. It says "Sim card isn't supported. Ask Verizon if this device can be unlocked."
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I called Verizon and the rep said that if I wait 60 days from the phone's original activation it should unlock automatically even though I don't have Verizon Service. The Rep said that I could use this device on Verizon Prepaid or regular service, but I have $5 months for referrals on Visible, that I would lose if I switched.
The Rep also said that you can request an unlock since the phone was paid off and IMEI was clear, but that I could not because in their system I was not the phone's owner. They could not tell me the date when the phone was activated because it would be a privacy issue.
I tried to work it out with the person I bought the phone from to get them to request the unlock, but got ghosted.
Questions:
1.) Does anyone know if it is true that my phone will unlock after 60 days without Verizon Service?
2.) If I put the phone on Verizon PrePaid service for 60 days, would that count as service and get it unlocked?
3.) If I activate on Verizon Prepaid or activate on no contract post paid will it take the last owner of the phone off of their "record" at Verizon so I can just request that the carrier lock be removed myself?
Thank you!
PS Once I get this figured out I will post what happened for anyone else that might run into this in the future.
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Did you ever figure this out? I bought a used s22+, checked with 4 different Verizon reps and they said they phone is unlocked. But of course I cant use it on another network (have tried on MintMobile which is Tmobile now). It just says "this phone cant be activated on another network"
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I recently moved and there is no sprint service at my new house. I am trying to switch 3 numbers from sprint to at&t. I full purchased my sprint note 4 two years ago and my 2 year contract is up. I paid off all outstanding balances on my account. After talking to sprint they said the phone was too old to DSU and gave me my MSL, which I have read does me no good. They told me my phone would not work with att but I have read multiple people on here have been able to use the sprint note 4 on a GSM network such as att.
So I went to an att store and they put a activated att SIM in my phone. It made calls and had 3g data. I understand I will not get LTE on this phone from att. So then I ported my number over and got a new att SIM card, put it in and I had service and data - even though I had an "Invalid SIM card" message. att guy said this was normal. Ran 2 speed tests and got 0.15 down / 0.79 up and 0.30 down / 1.11 up. att guy said if I did a system update I might get better speeds. Didn't bother me though cause it was already better than sprints speeds in the area on LTE. I could get a web site to load in a few seconds instead of 1-2 minutes.
About 15-20 minutes later I did the same process on my moms phone a sprint galaxy s5 (this was the main number from the sprint account). We did the same test beforehand with an att SIM - both phone and 3g data worked. There was a problem at first and the guy said "it was added to the wrong band" but after he called someone and tried again he said it was fixed. After porting that number and inserting new att SIM it had no phone service or data. Also my note 4 that was working before has no phone service or data. When I try to make a call it gives me some message about connecting to a sprint operator to use a prepaid card or make a call with credit card. Also the S5 should be on the newest software update cause my mom installs it as soon as it pops onto her phone.
The att guy said it seemed like sprint re-locked these 2 phones and didn't know what to do because they were previously working on the att network. He suggested I call sprint which I did and after 3 different technicians and 45 minutes later they hung up up on me. The only question they asked me was for my DEC #. I tried calling back and told them I was hung up on, they put me on with another technician and after 20 minutes on hold they hung up again. I am going to keep trying to get someone at sprint to help fix this but it doesn't seem like I can get anyone competent to help me.
The att guy was trying his best to help, even driving to another location to pick up 2 temporary phones for tonight 45 minutes after he was supposed to close. We got our numbers put on the temp phones for the night and finally the att guy was able to go home 90 minutes after the store was supposed to close.
I was planning on trying out some new roms on my note 4, which is currently stock (I've never got a popup to install new update and never did it manually). I haven't played around with any custom roms since my last phone 2 years ago so I'm pretty rusty although I have customized all my other phones for the last 4-5 years. I also plan to switch to a galaxy s8 when it comes out.
Is there anything I can do to my phone before I go back to att tomorrow? I just backed up my game apps with helium/carbon. I'm overly tired so before I mess up my phone I'm going to get some sleep and get a fresh start in the morning. Then I'm going to install twrp and do a full backup. I was also planning on following this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059 to add the att GSM bands. Will doing this https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/sprint-users-easy-downgrade-to-kitkat-t3471131 help at all?
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Ouch. Sounds like Sprint isn't doing you any favors and the phones won't work to capacity on AT&T.
If you're a directv customer or can switch, I think there's still incentives for trading those phones in for $650 per line ported with trade-in and getting one free phone on the unlimited plus or bundled directv plan. May take 2 or more billing cycles to apply and $150 per line credit has to be spent on account or in-store.
Can't promise offer still exists but I was considering it but wanted to wait until new phones were available and see what's available then. At the time I asked, the offer was scheduled to be available until August- I think. You may need to talk to AT&T some more. The current AT&T plus unlimited plan includes a $25/month voucher credit for AT&T paid TV services; won't pay a full but discount may help.
I'd seriously consider GSM phones if AT&T can make it affordable. You might also look at ZTE Axon mid-range phone price with flagship specs among others I think.
Edit: If nothing else, I think Galaxy Tools may be what you need to unlock those Sprint phones for domestic use.
Edit 2: You won't need that link you posted for Note 4; those screenshots appear to indicate you're already fully on KitKat. If galaxy tools agrees NK2 for bootloader, you're fully KitKat with lower security bootloader; maybe you know this but once you upgrade the bootloader, you can't downgrade it. If you were to Odin that tar, you'd actually be upgrading your bootloader and wouldn't be able to Odin NK2 stock tar again. Same would also apply to NIE and OB7 stock tars that are on the lower security bootloader.
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Yeah, sounds like sprint is shafting you from using their phones.
But you are correct, you can use this phone. I'm a GSM user with an unlocked sprint note 4 to. I use cricket, which is at&t. You just won't get lte, like you said. But you will get 4g-hspa+, but it'll only show 3g on screen.
As samep stated, don't update your phone yet. Stay on kit kat, and try to use the free tools available to unlock your phone. Like gt-tools.
If all else fails, all i can recommend is a paid service i used. Idoneapps.com. I can vouche for them.
Either way you get your phone unlocked, what i would do after, is install twrp, and do a full backup, especially your Efs. And keep it somewhere safe.
I attached files. If you don't know how to use, you might want to ask someone with better understanding than me.
G-Drive downloads:
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Gt3.18update
Hey everyone.
I'm sure there is still a level of uncertainty regarding my question but I thought I'd still ask.
Does anyone know if the Verizon Pixel 2 XL has a locked bootloader? I'm in kind of a pinch and need a phone now. I can get one from Verizon today but I can't get one from Google until the 25th. I realize that this is me being a little b*tc* about not having a phone and "right now".. but I'm curious if I'm going to run into issues later on by getting a Verizon version of the phone.
The original Verizon Pixels had locked bootloaders, and so does every other Verizon branded phone from the past few years, so it's reasonable to assume that these will too. The Sunshine crew managed to unlock the original Pixel bootloaders on day 1 though (they even released it the unlock method for free), so maybe you'll get lucky.
The Verizon version does have a locked bootloader. No uncertainty about that. The uncertainty is whether or not someone will figure out how to unlock it at some point in the future.
I would say yes it's locked.
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I would say yes it's locked.
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To be honest, reps have no idea what a bootloader is....Only way to find out is when someone gets the actual verizon phone
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To be honest, reps have no idea what a bootloader is....Only way to find out is when someone gets the actual verizon phone
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You're right. I was about to go buy one at a store. When I asked can I just pay in full and walk out the guy was like no. He said it had to be active on a Verizon number. He recommended I buy from Google if those are my intentions.
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You're right. I was about to go buy one at a store. When I asked can I just pay in full and walk out the guy was like no. He said it had to be active on a Verizon number. He recommended I buy from Google if those are my intentions.
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I just bought a Verizon one. So I'll confirm
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You're right. I was about to go buy one at a store. When I asked can I just pay in full and walk out the guy was like no. He said it had to be active on a Verizon number. He recommended I buy from Google if those are my intentions.
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Active on a line or activate on a line? Two different things.
This was from another thread
keving75 said:
I just received my Verizon XL, pulled out the Sim. Started without connecting to any data. Opened developer options. No unlock available, greyed out.
Tried an AT&T sim. No change.
OH well, I back to Verizon.
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I am in pretty much the same boat as the OP where I needed a phone asap so I just went ahead and purchased one from Verizon (+ $40 for a month of prepaid smh) and yes my boatloader is locked (facepalm). I was hoping the same workaround for the OG pixel would work were as long as you initially boot the phone with a Sim from another carrier the bootloader would stay unlocked... So I made sure they didn't open and setup the phone for me. Unfortunately when I eventually did open it, it appeared as though they may have opened it and turned it on at least once (possibly specifically for this purpose smh). Now I'm either stuck or I could return it and take the L on the $40 prepaid + $35 restocking.
Luckily I like it enough that I can do without root and roms for now at least.
Fingers crossed someone finds an exploit.
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I am in pretty much the same boat as the OP where I needed a phone asap so I just went ahead and purchased one from Verizon (+ $40 for a month of prepaid smh) and yes my boatloader is locked (facepalm). I was hoping the same workaround for the OG pixel would work were as long as you initially boot the phone with a Sim from another carrier the bootloader would stay unlocked... So I made sure they didn't open and setup the phone for me. Unfortunately when I eventually did open it, it appeared as though they may have opened it and turned it on at least once (possibly specifically for this purpose smh). Now I'm either stuck or I could return it and take the L on the $40 prepaid + $35 restocking.
Luckily I like it enough that I can do without root and roms for now at least.
Fingers crossed someone finds an exploit.
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Stop wishing it's going to be unlocked BL. It won't.
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Thank you to everyone who replied to this. Due to your responses and the confirmation from those who've received their phones from Verizon, I am going to hold off and just wait for an unlocked phone from Google. If I'm paying $1000 for a phone, I better be able to do whatever I want with that phone.
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Thank you to everyone who replied to this. Due to your responses and the confirmation from those who've received their phones from Verizon, I am going to hold off and just wait for an unlocked phone from Google. If I'm paying $1000 for a phone, I better be able to do whatever I want with that phone.
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Enjoy. Verizon claims there is no way to have it unlocked.
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Just so you know on my google store version the oem unlock was greyed out. SO i reset the phone and during setup said i had google FI . then connected to wifi and the option was available for me to toggle. I know this is a google store version but maybe this will be enough of a trick like last years to unlock verizon before putting the sim in (like i did)
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Just so you know on my google store version the oem unlock was greyed out. SO i reset the phone and during setup said i had google FI . then connected to wifi and the option was available for me to toggle. I know this is a google store version but maybe this will be enough of a trick like last years to unlock verizon before putting the sim in (like i did)
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if this works glad for everyone else but i already activated mine and will likely return.
will be glad if i hear it works for others that might find this post before turning it on.
Has anyone tried this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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Has anyone tried this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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Yes, I tried and it does not work. I'm working on another means to allow bootloader unlocking now. I'll let everyone know once I have a releasable unlock method.
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Yes, I tried and it does not work. I'm working on another means to allow bootloader unlocking now. I'll let everyone know once I have a releasable unlock method.
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If what you're working on works will it be if the device has been active with a Verizon sim?
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If what you're working on works will it be if the device has been active with a Verizon sim?
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Nope, if I can get this to work it shouldn't matter.
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Nope, if I can get this to work it shouldn't matter.
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Pushing all the positive vibes in your direction ?
I've been buying unlocked phones for years and I can't remember the last time I bought from a carrier. But I can get a 6 Pro 256GB from one of those carriers for $500 through work so I'm thinking I might try.
I guess the other thing I'd ask is if they've clarified if the Google-direct 6 Pro will support mm-wave/UWB 5G?
I guess my Google-fu was weak today. Seems the jury is stil out on the locked part, but likely locked and par for the course.
Found a doc that clarifies the 5G confusion here, too.
We need someone with Verizon or AT&T version to check if OEM Unlocking is available or greyed out.
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I've been buying unlocked phones for years and I can't remember the last time I bought from a carrier. But I can get a 6 Pro 256GB from one of those carriers for $500 through work so I'm thinking I might try.
I guess the other thing I'd ask is if they've clarified if the Google-direct 6 Pro will support mm-wave/UWB 5G?
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Not sure about AT&T, but you buy a device from VZW, the bootloader is locked forever.
Not only that, if you buy a device from the manufacturer (Google P6P) that VZW carries, you will not be able to ensure that device through VZW, and you'll lose done VZW specific features like free 25gb cloud.
Might have changed over the last few years, but the way VZW is, I doubt it.
Call VZW customer service and straight out ask what happens, what account features do you lose, if you buy a P6P directly from Google, and add it to your VZW account.
I'll keep a 4 yr old device before I buy from a carrier again!
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Greyed out on Verizon
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So now we're sure Verizon is locked, what about AT&T? Can anyone help here?
Bad ne s, this is the AT&T variant.
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Bad ne s, this is the AT&T variant.
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Ugh. Thanks for posting this. Have you paid it off and gotten it carrier unlocked? Because I was 90% sure it would allow you to unlock the bootloader then.
Or, set up off line, with no active SIM, and unlockable.
I tried offline setup and it first tells you it needs cellular or wifi to verify something. Then after connecting to wifi it says it can't be unlocked. Tried this on a 256gb p6p Verizon
AT&T is bootloader locked. I returned it and got an unlocked one from Best Buy.
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AT&T is bootloader locked. I returned it and got an unlocked one from Best Buy.
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Sorry if lot sounds like I'm being too specific on this, but did you fully pay off the phone and ask AT&T to unlock it? I'm sure the bootloader is locked at first, but they've always allowed phones to be unblocked and that to the best of my knowledge. And they have to carrier unlock it before you'd be able to bootloader unlock it.
On the offline note, I'm pretty sure there's a way around that offline. In some cases, I bring it was earlier Samsung Galaxy phones, your had to tap a hidden white hotspot area on the instruction screen several times and it would move forward offline. Just FWIW.
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I tried offline setup and it first tells you it needs cellular or wifi to verify something. Then after connecting to wifi it says it can't be unlocked. Tried this on a 256gb p6p Verizon
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Thanks. Hopefully there's still a way per my message above.
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Sorry if lot sounds like I'm being too specific on this, but did you fully pay off the phone and ask AT&T to unlock it? I'm sure the bootloader is locked at first, but they've always allowed phones to be unblocked and that to the best of my knowledge. And they have to carrier unlock it before you'd be able to bootloader unlock it.
On the offline note, I'm pretty sure there's a way around that offline. In some cases, I bring it was earlier Samsung Galaxy phones, your had to tap a hidden white hotspot area on the instruction screen several times and it would move forward offline. Just FWIW.
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I didn't. It was easier to just return it and go to Best Buy. No hassle.
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Thanks. Hopefully there's still a way per my message above.
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Sorry for the confusion I was able to reach the home screen in offline setup mode. What I was referring to is using the offline trick to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately I was unable to unlock it even with the offline setup. Sigh I probably have to get an unlocked model if I want to root. Using vzw was the cheapest route for me. This was on a Verizon p6p
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Bad ne s, this is the AT&T variant.
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Makes me wonder if you could get it sim unlocked via a 3rd party and then be able to unlock the bootloader after?
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Makes me wonder if you could get it sim unlocked via a 3rd party and then be able to unlock the bootloader after?
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That's what I was wondering too.
DragohD said:
Makes me wonder if you could get it sim unlocked via a 3rd party and then be able to unlock the bootloader after?
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What do you mean exactly?
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What do you mean exactly?
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Well in the screenshot, it says "unavailable on carrier-locked devices" underneath the OEM unlocking toggle, so instead of having to go through AT&T to get it sim unlocked, what if you use a 3rd party paid service to sim unlock the device? would that allow you to also unlock the bootloader? And if so, would it work for the other carrier variants too?
DragohD said:
Well in the screenshot, it says "unavailable on carrier-locked devices" underneath the OEM unlocking toggle, so instead of having to go through AT&T to get it sim unlocked, what if you use a 3rd party paid service to sim unlock the device? would that allow you to also unlock the bootloader? And if so, would it work for the other carrier variants too?
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Oh I see. I believe that's outside the purview of this forum since 3rd party paid services are frowned upon. So you're pretty much on your own there.
So my 6 Pro came in yesterday. After years of buying Pixel phones from the Google Store with MetroPCS, I decided to take advantage of the $900 trade in with Tmobile and got the 6 Pro through them.
I wasn't patient enough to wait the 40 days to receive the OEM unlock, so I installed the Tmobile app on the P6, chatted with tech support and they agreed to unlock the phone, no questions asked! Thought that i would get pushback for being a brand new account, but nope........they said to give it up to 24 hours and they will call me back with the unlock code!
Can't wait to unlock and root!
Sounds like you're on the xda fast track to unlock happiness!
Prey521 said:
So my 6 Pro came in yesterday. After years of buying Pixel phones from the Google Store with MetroPCS, I decided to take advantage of the $900 trade in with Tmobile and got the 6 Pro through them.
I wasn't patient enough to wait the 40 days to receive the OEM unlock, so I installed the Tmobile app on the P6, chatted with tech support and they agreed to unlock the phone, no questions asked! Thought that i would get pushback for being a brand new account, but nope........they said to give it up to 24 hours and they will call me back with the unlock code!
Can't wait to unlock and root!
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Did you ever receive that unlock code from T-Mobile? I want to do the same. Did you have to give them a specific reason for wanting to unlock the phone?
Anastacio_Guerrero said:
Did you ever receive that unlock code from T-Mobile? I want to do the same. Did you have to give them a specific reason for wanting to unlock the phone?
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Most folks (in other threads in this P6P section) who had their T-Mobile P6P sim-unlocked and were able to bootloader unlock gave the reason that they were traveling out of the country (and therefore needed to be able to use a foreign SIM card).
They also would tell customer service that the temporary unlock wasn't working repeatedly, and then T-Mobile issues permanent unlocks. Or you can pay your phone off.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Most folks (in other threads in this P6P section) who had their T-Mobile P6P sim-unlocked and were able to bootloader unlock gave the reason that they were travelling out of the country (and therefore needed to be able to use a foreign SIM card).
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I just tried and gave them that reason, they said they'd give me a 3 month unlock and not a permanent one since the device wasn't fully paid off. I wonder if I'd still be able to unlock my bootloader.
Anastacio_Guerrero said:
I just tried and gave them that reason, they said they'd give me a 3 month unlock and not a permanent one since the device wasn't fully paid off. I wonder if I'd still be able to unlock my bootloader.
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Good luck! Let us know. In the other threads, some folks said it just depended on who you talked to, some will give permanent unlock, some won't. Or they've gotten wise.
Anastacio_Guerrero said:
Did you ever receive that unlock code from T-Mobile? I want to do the same. Did you have to give them a specific reason for wanting to unlock the phone?
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Hey, yes I did. I told them that I was an Android developer and needed to unlock my bootloader so that I could test my applications. At first they only gave me a 30 day code. Called them back and told them that I needed a full unlock since the 30 day code doesn't allow me to unlock the bootloader. After I reassured them that I needed it for work purposes and that I would have to return the phone and cancel my account if I couldn't unlock the bootloader, they finally permanently unlocked it.
I'm now rooted and waiting for those custom Roms to start dropping!
Same.
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They just flip a switch, they don't send a code.
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They just flip a switch, they don't send a code.
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Yup, that's exactly what they did to mines as well. I didn't have to do anything on my end. Didn't enter any codes, etc.
But just like that, can they reverse flip the switch to lock my phone up again?
Yea i just got my Black Back Ordered 6 Pro Last week, and billed the $299 to a new account and was able to get Care to unlock 1 week after purchase by saying i was leaving the country for the holidays...
I'm still struggling to get them to not do a temp unlock. Did you call or tweet? @AndroidAddict420
My OEM Unlocking is greyed out although my phone is unlocked.
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My OEM Unlocking is greyed out although my phone is unlocked.
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I assume you mean your phone is carrier unlocked, which isn't the same as bootloader unlocked. Try rebooting and see if the toggle is still grayed out.
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I assume you mean your phone is carrier unlocked, which isn't the same as bootloader unlocked. Try rebooting and see if the toggle is still grayed out.
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I have rebooted multiple times. Still it is greyed out. Is OEM unlocking the bootloader?
I did a factory reset and now it's available.
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I did a factory reset and now it's available.
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Now you should unlock the bootloader, since that will force another factory reset.
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Now you should unlock the bootloader, since that will force another factory reset.
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I connected to the flash tool https://flash.android.com/ and it prompted me to unlock the bootloader. Now I'm on the developer instance which is what I wanted.
Funny thing though. I just got my T-Mobile bill and it appears they are charging me for my phone so I need to call and resolve that. I guess they decided to require me to pay my phone off since they were unlocking my phone but that wasn't the agreement we had so here's my new task.
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I connected to the flash tool https://flash.android.com/ and it prompted me to unlock the bootloader. Now I'm on the developer instance which is what I wanted.
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Yay!
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Funny thing though. I just got my T-Mobile bill and it appears they are charging me for my phone so I need to call and resolve that. I guess they decided to require me to pay my phone off since they were unlocking my phone but that wasn't the agreement we had so here's my new task.
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That sucks. Good luck, I hope you can resolve it easily.
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I hate this at a glance that can't be removed or moved.
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Nova Launcher (Prime) for the win. I used to tinker with stock launchers and a few other third-party launchers, but for the last 10 (?) years or so, I always go back to Nova Launcher and I don't bother fooling with any others any more.
I still use At A Glance, but I love being able to customize everything including widget sizes.
My at a glance is jacked up
I can't move or resize it. I use Nova (and klwp) but do I need Nova prime?
Spent hours trying to get this done, what a pain in the @SS!
It thinks the IMEI2 is a physical sim!
They have to fix this crap.
Verizon's support is going down the tubes big time.
I didn't know there is Verizon Fold 4 eSim option? I preordered mine and it arrived last Monday. Activated it the same day. It comes with a new pSim, and I have to admit I am questioning the necessity of pSim if every new phone comes with one (physical sim) and I have no reason to take it out because I won't be changing plans or carriers in the foreseeable future. Why have one? Give me the option to buy a specific/no change/this-carrier-only-forever, and I can save a few bucks? Why the heck not! I am obviously aware of tract phones, or maybe I am not if that is where your question is going to lead.
Verizon - yes
New Fold 4 - yes
Activated - yes
eSim - no
interesting concept I didn't know existed.
The box came with the pokey tool specifically for sim removal. I haven't bothered to double confirm there is actually a sim in the tray that pops out. I trust them, it's there and we know the phone doesn't come with expandable micro sd ability so the tray better have a sim, or why have the tray?
If I were to pop the tray out just to look and that is the only reason for pulling it out, I have a chance of breaking something. Don't do that. That's what pilots do, and then I gotta fix it. LOL
The purpose of having esim is so you can put your primary number on it and have a physical sim slot free. This way if the phone is a work phone (or vice versa) you can have both lines on one device. Also, for traveling it comes in handy. Not sure about Samsung but I know with Apple you can actually have multiple lines registered to esim. Only two lines can be used simultaneously but (again) this comes in handy for travelers that may not have service with a particular carrier but another does, for example.
Carriers have rules too that governor the use of esim registration as well as sim lock. For example a Verizon phone on equipment payment plan (EIP) won't work on TMO on esim. At least not for the intial 60 day period from activation. Other carriers (ATT), for example won't lift the sim lock until the device is paid off.
This is why I always get unlocked devices. Always.
I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?
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I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?
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I got my fold 4 on verizon and 5g works. It's didn't work too good at first and then I chatted with customer service a couple of days ago and now I finally get the full speed like I used to. I guess they never activated it properly before.
I've had no problems with 5G.
Unlocked running big red V in Tampa Florida.
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I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
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I've had no problems with 5G.
Unlocked running big red V in Tampa Florida.
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I have a question for you, are you getting 5g on your unlocked phone with Verizon? I got my phone on launch day from Samsung, unlocked and have not had 5g. It was working fine on my prior Note20 ultra...
Would this esim issue solve the problem?
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Possibly although if it is activated you should be getting whatever services are available.
Interestingly enough, I have two VZW numbers on my Fold 4 currently. One on a physical "5G" SIM provided by VZW in the past month, and the other on esim. Both numbers are on accounts with the highest level plan.
I was in an area that barely got any signal and the number with the physical sim was bouncing between no service and one bar whereas the esim number never completely lost service. Signals for both were in the -120 to -130 dBm range so very, very weak.
It was interesting to see this, however.
I've had both lines on my iPhone 13 Pro Max the same way and often see similar results and the signals showing for each often show different number of bars as well.
gsingh22 said:
I got my fold 4 on verizon and 5g works. It's didn't work too good at first and then I chatted with customer service a couple of days ago and now I finally get the full speed like I used to. I guess they never activated it properly before.
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The website is so painful to log into... I'll try to chat with someone... Not had the time to go to an office, although not sure if they may be better or worse than chat...
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Possibly although if it is activated you should be getting whatever services are available.
Interestingly enough, I have two VZW numbers on my Fold 4 currently. One on a physical "5G" SIM provided by VZW in the past month, and the other on esim. Both numbers are on accounts with the highest level plan.
I was in an area that barely got any signal and the number with the physical sim was bouncing between no service and one bar whereas the esim number never completely lost service. Signals for both were in the -120 to -130 dBm range so very, very weak.
It was interesting to see this, however.
I've had both lines on my iPhone 13 Pro Max the same way and often see similar results and the signals showing for each often show different number of bars as well.
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Can you post a screenshot with Verizon activated on esim? I was told it can't be done yet...
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Much respect, what did you say to them? How did you do it. It's failed 3 times for me. And I would kill to have Verizon on esim so I can have aren't back to is annoying at times verizon variant or unlocked?
Mine is unlocked direct from Samsung.
I probably spent a total of 6 hours of my time to get this (finally) working over a period of about 1 week. Started with the website. It detected the IMEI as esim and 5G capable and compatible with VZW. Everything looked good but it would not activate at all! Tried a second time and got an error to contact support.
Did that via chat and got nowhere fast. They opened a ticket that they said could take up to a week to get resolved! I called a few more times during this period, transferred around to different people, etc. Still no luck.
The final time that worked was even though Verizon showed up as a carrier I still had no service. I was transferred to someone else that did more TS and finally asked me for the EID. After about 10 minutes, she came back and had me power off the phone. When it came back on I did see Verizon showing up along with my number. It took a few minutes and texts started coming through and I had voice and data!
It was a royal PIA. Perhaps everyone will benefit now that Apple is switching to esim ONLY as it will REQUIRE the carriers to get their S4iT together and make this process smoother. Because this was a total cluster-f!
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I'm trying right now... Not looking too hot
cpufrost said:
Mine is unlocked direct from Samsung.
I probably spent a total of 6 hours of my time to get this (finally) working over a period of about 1 week. Started with the website. It detected the IMEI as esim and 5G capable and compatible with VZW. Everything looked good but it would not activate at all! Tried a second time and got an error to contact support.
Did that via chat and got nowhere fast. They opened a ticket that they said could take up to a week to get resolved! I called a few more times during this period, transferred around to different people, etc. Still no luck.
The final time that worked was even though Verizon showed up as a carrier I still had no service. I was transferred to someone else that did more TS and finally asked me for the EID. After about 10 minutes, she came back and had me power off the phone. When it came back on I did see Verizon showing up along with my number. It took a few minutes and texts started coming through and I had voice and data!
It was a royal PIA. Perhaps everyone will benefit now that Apple is switching to esim ONLY as it will REQUIRE the carriers to get their S4iT together and make this process smoother. Because this was a total cluster-f!
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When I scan the cr is says my plans not setup and will not detect me
They need the IMEI 2 (esim) AND EID. Have no idea why they are having such a hard time with the newest Samsung phones! I was having the same issue initially.
What are the benefits of switching to esim? Besides having the sim slot available for an additional line or other carrier?
Not needing to carry two phones!
Anyone have an update regarding getting Verizon to activate your esim? They still won't activate mine, and I'm tired of carrying 2 phones (work and personal).
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Anyone have an update regarding getting Verizon to activate your esim? They still won't activate mine, and I'm tired of carrying 2 phones (work and personal).
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Cpufrost seems to be the only one I've seen. I couldn't either