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Be careful when you buy to this manufacturer because I bought more than 4 units and they don't help when 1 unit is defective, only way is to pay shipping back to china when you buy unit from UK warehouse and solution is much easier, send only defective spare part, because I am not willing to pay anything when product is within warranty, and the time I will be without using it.
So they only care about sell, cheap and poor quality devices and later after send few e-mail, they stop answering.
There are other better manufacturers for good car head units so... STAY AWAY FROM THIS BRAND ERISIN!!!!
yeah agree..
worst quality units i have seen so far
what was wrong with your unit?
numind said:
Be careful when you buy to this manufacturer because I bought more than 4 units and they don't help when 1 unit is defective, only way is to pay shipping back to china when you buy unit from UK warehouse and solution is much easier, send only defective spare part, because I am not willing to pay anything when product is within warranty, and the time I will be without using it.
So they only care about sell, cheap and poor quality devices and later after send few e-mail, they stop answering.
There are other better manufacturers for good car head units so... STAY AWAY FROM THIS BRAND ERISIN!!!!
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Nomader0 said:
yeah agree..
worst quality units i have seen so far
what was wrong with your unit?
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Erisin are not a manufacturer they are just sellers - they buy from a variety of manufacturers and then sell them on, they know very little about what they sell and are only useful for the occasional firmware release. If you buy from ebay or with Paypal you should be covered though.
To find out who manufacturers your units go to settings/about device, the 3 or 4 letters after "MTCD" will tell you.
The devices have a few bugs but are not poor quality and the bugs can be sorted with help from fellow XDA users.
What problems were you having ? Its very likely that they can easily be sorted.
mate stop telling people what to say it is not polite, specially when you are not 100% sure of what you say
erisin=KLG
they are not sellers, i am 90% sure of that
the units are very low quality. Bluetooth and wifi problems (can't use both at the same time) , and touch screen problems
these are not software bugs that can be sorted. they are hardware
i have had 3 units so i am quite knowledgeable about them, KLG units are just the poorest quality of all
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mate stop telling people what to say it is not polite, specially when you are not 100% sure of what you say
erisin=KLG
they are not sellers, i am 90% sure of that
the units are very low quality. Bluetooth and wifi problems (can't use both at the same time) , and touch screen problems
these are not software bugs that can be sorted. they are hardware
i have had 3 units so i am quite knowledgeable about them, KLG units are just the poorest quality of all
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At NO POINT in my previous post did I "tell people what to say". What I did is give advice using my pretty extensive knowledge of these units and their manufacturers
Having dealt directly with several manufacturers of these units, sold some myself, owned around 6 units from different manufacturers and been active in the XDA forums about them for 3 years, I know EXACTLY what I m talking about, I was offering you and @numind help and advice, dont take it if you dont want to, but I know what I m talking about when it comes to these devices as my thanks meter clearly shows.
Its long been established by myself and others on here that Erisin are sellers - I am 200% sure of that, so you are plain wrong when you say that they are not.
You dont have a "KLG" MCU because theres no such thing, what you probably mean is that you have a KGL MCU. If you have a KGL MCU then you have a device made by Shenzhen Kai Ge Le, but Erisin DOES NOT = KGL, Erisin sell units from several different manufacturers, not just KGL and other sellers also sell KGL devices. Indeed I just bought an MTCD unit from Erisin and it has a GS MCU, GS is a different manufacturer - the letters after "MTCD" denote who manufactures your unit, GS are an entirely different company from KGL.
I made no mention of software bugs, I said its highly likely that "any" bugs can be sorted out, both software AND hardware bugs can be sorted using advice on XDA.
If you havent had a unit made by anyone else other than KGL then I m not sure you can say that KGL devices are "the poorest quality of all", but nevertheless I certainly have heard of more problems with KGL devices than others, so I am inclined to agree with that, but the problems can be overcome.
In all my 3 years on the MTC forums I ve not heard about anyone not being able to use wifi and BT at the same time. Have you updated your MCU ? Have you changed anything in factory settings ? If so (I m guessing the answer is yes to both) then you may want to read @marchnz's Cross compatible MCU thread because he has found out that its possible to use other manufactures' MCUs on MTCD devices and this could sort your wifi/BT issues. Also lots of KGL MTCD devices use the Realtec rtl8723bu wifi/BT chip (as do 1000s of other devices the world over from Android head units to computers), it may be something to do with the antennas, KLD MTCD devices also use this chip and people have improved the reception by simply adding longer antenna wires. Maybe KGL have only connected one antenna (the rtl8723bu should have 2) and that is your problem ? In which case it could just be case of soldering on another. Maybe one or both have become detached, I ve heard of the earth lead for the radio tuners on MTCB KGL device becoming detached before. Have you opened the unit ?
I have heard of touchscreen problems before, its often centred around the connector, have you tried re-seating it ? Can you be more specific about your touchscreen "problems" ?
ok i do own 3 other units KLD, KSP and KGL
KGL is the lowest quality and i insist
the unit i have uses the same chip for BT and wifi and this causes interferance. when BT is connected the wifi is useless.. you can search the forum and you will find many posts about that.. my KSP and KLD do not (although they use the same chip for BT) but, i think it is not combined.
I soldered an external antenna but this did not help at all i itried all MCU's but that made no difference..any way it is the implementation of BT and wifi in these units that causes the interference problem on the 2.4Ghz freq. it will not be solved with any software update.
the most serious problem is the touch screen deffect.. the touch screen is a 9 inch, the center part of the touch overlay works ok but 2 cm around the screen the touchscreen has 3 dead zones parallel to the frame so when you draw for example the cursor jumps these dead zones.. any small button that exists on these dead zones is unclickable.
i tried removing the cable change it etc.. and this did not help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73370853&postcount=1432
this member has the same problem so it is not a coincidence..
i will probably return the unit and buy something else
i am really not sure who is the manufacturer and who is the seller anymore, and i don't really care.. you might be right i guess and i apologize for that.
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ok i do own 3 other units KLD, KSP and KGL
KGL is the lowest quality and i insist
the unit i have uses the same chip for BT and wifi and this causes interferance. when BT is connected the wifi is useless.. you can search the forum and you will find many posts about that.. my KSP and KLD do not (although they use the same chip for BT) but, i think it is not combined.
I soldered an external antenna but this did not help at all i itried all MCU's but that made no difference..any way it is the implementation of BT and wifi in these units that causes the interference problem on the 2.4Ghz freq. it will not be solved with any software update.
the most serious problem is the touch screen deffect.. the touch screen is a 9 inch, the center part of the touch overlay works ok but 2 cm around the screen the touchscreen has 3 dead zones parallel to the frame so when you draw for example the cursor jumps these dead zones.. any small button that exists on these dead zones is unclickable.
i tried removing the cable change it etc.. and this did not help.
i created this post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...velopment/kgl-wifi-bluetoothproblems-t3654653
and another member seems to have the same problem so it is not a coincidence..
i will probably return the unit and buy something else
i am really not sure who is the manufacturer and who is the seller anymore, and i don't really care.. you might be right i guess and i apologize for that.
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OK, we agree about KGL being the poorest of these units then.
It could indeed be down to the mobo and the way KGL designed it, but @marchnz has only recently found out that a lot of MTCD units can actually be made to use other MCU types (unlike MTCB/C units) so it really could be worth you reading his thread as it could help, maybe a KLD MCU for instance, could sort it out ? Its worth trying. And did you have one or two antennas ? You said "I soldered an external antenna" suggesting just one. This could be important as its both a BT and wifi chip.
Does the screen work if you attach a mouse (not that it would help much when driving, although an air mouse might, I guess thats not the point though) ?
I have read of other users buying new screens, have you looked on Aliexpress ?
One of my 9" units has at least a (very annoying) 1 cm gap between the digitiser and the screen, just out of interest does your KGL ?
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OK, we agree about KGL being the poorest of these units then.
It could indeed be down to the mobo and the way KGL designed it, but @marchnz has only recently found out that a lot of MTCD units can actually be made to use other MCU types (unlike MTCB/C units) so it really could be worth you reading his thread as it could help, maybe a KLD MCU for instance, could sort it out ? Its worth trying.
Does the screen work if you attach a mouse (not that it would help much when driving, although an air mouse might, I guess thats not the point though) ?
I have read of other users buying new screens, have you looked on Aliexpress ?
One of my 9" units has at least a (very annoying) 1 cm gap between the digitiser and the screen, just out of interest does your KGL ?
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i might try another MCU i guess as you proposed.. it is the only thing i haven't tried..
by gap you mean a physical gap? void? nothing? ? no my unit does not have that kind of gap.. this is my unit
Nomader0 said:
ok i do own 3 other units KLD, KSP and KGL
KGL is the lowest quality and i insist
the unit i have uses the same chip for BT and wifi and this causes interferance. when BT is connected the wifi is useless.. you can search the forum and you will find many posts about that.. my KSP and KLD do not (although they use the same chip for BT) but, i think it is not combined.
I soldered an external antenna but this did not help at all i itried all MCU's but that made no difference..any way it is the implementation of BT and wifi in these units that causes the interference problem on the 2.4Ghz freq. it will not be solved with any software update.
the most serious problem is the touch screen deffect.. the touch screen is a 9 inch, the center part of the touch overlay works ok but 2 cm around the screen the touchscreen has 3 dead zones parallel to the frame so when you draw for example the cursor jumps these dead zones.. any small button that exists on these dead zones is unclickable.
i tried removing the cable change it etc.. and this did not help.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73370853&postcount=1432
this member has the same problem so it is not a coincidence..
i will probably return the unit and buy something else
i am really not sure who is the manufacturer and who is the seller anymore, and i don't really care.. you might be right i guess and i apologize for that.
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Almost all px5 units are suffering the bad wifi reception and/or speed.
The closer the wifi source is...the smaller is the issue.
Most of people are using the wifi units by means of wifi tethering from their phones....which is a very close source to the antenna (which is my case)
When arriving home it detects my home's wifi but speed ia very low (when my phone dpes not lack of any speed connected at the same time and from he same place - the car)
So...all we are having similar problems (which can be affected by interference) but specific units are unusable even having the source close to the headunit.
As the software is the same for all px5 units (including the kernel which recently has been updated on the August 3rd ROM published by dasaita) the problem is on the board
We should all open the units and check how our units arw assembled and compare with the ones that are correctly working
The bad quality of soldering on antennas could be the cause of yoir issues...
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i have some electronics knowledge.. BT and Wifi both use 2.4ghz so the interfere more or less
this problem occurs in many HTC and Samsung mobile phones also.. and also occurs in most MTCD devices BUT.. the wifi signal is still usable. In my situation playstore fails to even connect, speedtest does not even find a server.. so it is the implemantation.
this device has 2 antennas, one for BT (a cable really) and another for WIFI (another cable).. but it is the chip itself that has the issue.. in my other KSP unit there is interferance and the wifi does slow down but it is not killed like the KGL. I do think the KSP has a separate BT and WIFI chip.. although both state MD725 for the BT in factory settings..
anyway i just tried HA and GS mcu's but the don't help for the touch screen issue.. so it might be a defective digitizer i guess
Nomader0 said:
i have some electronics knowledge.. BT and Wifi both use 2.4ghz so the interfere more or less
this problem occurs in many HTC and Samsung mobile phones also.. and also occurs in most MTCD devices BUT.. the wifi signal is still usable. In my situation playstore fails to even connect, speedtest does not even find a server.. so it is the implemantation.
this device has 2 antennas, one for BT (a cable really) and another for WIFI (another cable).. but it is the chip itself that has the issue.. in my other KSP unit there is interferance and the wifi does slow down but it is not killed like the KGL. I do think the KSP has a separate BT and WIFI chip.. although both state MD725 for the BT in factory settings..
anyway i just tried HA and GS mcu's but the don't help for the touch screen issue.. so it might be a defective digitizer i guess
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New motherboard from Dasaita is built by two different chip modules for wifi and bt.
What's is strange is that he new WiFi module is not dual and it seems to be very old
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ikerg said:
Almost all px5 units are suffering the bad wifi reception and/or speed.
The closer the wifi source is...the smaller is the issue.
Most of people are using the wifi units by means of wifi tethering from their phones....which is a very close source to the antenna (which is my case)
When arriving home it detects my home's wifi but speed ia very low (when my phone dpes not lack of any speed connected at the same time and from he same place - the car)
So...all we are having similar problems (which can be affected by interference) but specific units are unusable even having the source close to the headunit.
As the software is the same for all px5 units (including the kernel which recently has been updated on the August 3rd ROM published by dasaita) the problem is on the board
We should all open the units and check how our units arw assembled and compare with the ones that are correctly working
The bad quality of soldering on antennas could be the cause of yoir issues...
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If its only affecting RK3368/PX5 units then its deffo a software problem related to the SoM.
Nomader0 said:
i have some electronics knowledge.. BT and Wifi both use 2.4ghz so the interfere more or less
this problem occurs in many HTC and Samsung mobile phones also.. and also occurs in most MTCD devices BUT.. the wifi signal is still usable. In my situation playstore fails to even connect, speedtest does not even find a server.. so it is the implemantation.
this device has 2 antennas, one for BT (a cable really) and another for WIFI (another cable).. but it is the chip itself that has the issue.. in my other KSP unit there is interferance and the wifi does slow down but it is not killed like the KGL. I do think the KSP has a separate BT and WIFI chip.. although both state MD725 for the BT in factory settings..
anyway i just tried HA and GS mcu's but the don't help for the touch screen issue.. so it might be a defective digitizer i guess
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Nomader0 said:
i might try another MCU i guess as you proposed.. it is the only thing i haven't tried..
by gap you mean a physical gap? void? nothing? ? no my unit does not have that kind of gap.. this is my unit
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My KLD MTCD unit has holes for a BC6 BT (BT only) module, as used in MTCB/C devices and I have a spare one, I wonder if using that would improve things, leaving the Realtec just to do wifi duties, not sure how youd "tell" the MCU not to use the rtl for BT though.
On MTCB/C units a small heat sink makes the wifi much faster, some people with MTCB/C units also suffer from slow wifi when connected to a router and downloading large files (although I ve not experienced this), but MTCB/C units have separate wifi and BT chips. TBH though all antennas are "cables really" A tiny heat sink is worth trying and costs peanuts. MD725 means its the same rtl wifi/BT chip as KSP/KLDs.
Are all your units MTCD ? Cos if you have an RK3188/PX3 one you could swap the SoM and see if the problem improves/goes away with an RK3188/PX5 SoM, if it does then @ikerg is right and its a SoM/ROM software problem, not hardware, which would probably mean just waiting for updates or hoping a dev on here who knows their stuff can sort it.
Yes I did mean a void, I have two 9" units and one has this void, its weird, just wondered if yours did.
The point is that backlight is dead, only works volume knob led, so I asked to many Erisin contacts if this was a common failure and if they could send to me spare part and I fix it, but they just stop answering.
Also other fail I detected for new PX5 unit is about ignition output filter, there is a sound peak after run the ignition key, and with older PX3 this didnt happen...
Anyway you can't expect too much for these cheap units
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The point is that backlight is dead, only works volume knob led, so I asked to many Erisin contacts if this was a common failure and if they could send to me spare part and I fix it, but they just stop answering.
Also other fail I detected for new PX5 unit is about ignition output filter, there is a sound peak after run the ignition key, and with older PX3 this didnt happen...
Anyway you can't expect too much for these cheap units
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How did you pay for it, where did you buy it ?
by paypal I think, via website erisin (dot) com ES6698V
Open a case with PayPal
I think is only possible within 45 first days
Yeah, open a case.
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I think is only possible within 45 first days
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They changed it to 6 months.
Regarding these quality problems from Erisin crap, what would you think could be an option for replace the head unit? maybe Dasaita? some modle in the edge between price and quality, about 400usd...
All people should know about different brands, I would support a kind of satisfaction poll with positive and negative points.
numind said:
Regarding these quality problems from Erisin crap, what would you think could be an option for replace the head unit? maybe Dasaita? some modle in the edge between price and quality, about 400usd...
All people should know about different brands, I would support a kind of satisfaction poll with positive and negative points.
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All people should know about different brands, - different manufacturers.
The GS and HA units appear to be the better quality units. For the record, I have a JY and while it isnt bad, there are shorcuts. I have a GS board obtained as a spare part, it was with the GS board I was able to create a Jig to recovery bricked/corrupt PX5 NAND.
-M
Hi,
I have an Android 5.1 .1 unit with RK3188 chip 1G RAM. All works well but there is a weird rear camera issue. When I start the car and switch to backup gear, the rear camera always works normally, however, after driving 10 minutes or longer the camera does not work anymore and the screen shows an exclamation mark when gear switched to backup. This happens approximately 80% times, while the other 20% times the camera would work OK even after long driving time.
The camera is wired normally with power connected to backup light. Backup light power is also connect to the head unit as trigger for rear camera video.
I was initially thinking this could be a bad camera issue, but the problem persists after installation of a new camera. So it must be the unit.
Has anyone else experienced similar problem? Any help to fix the issue is much appreciated.
yves31 said:
Hi,
I have an Android 5.1 .1 unit with RK3188 chip 1G RAM. All works well but there is a weird rear camera issue. When I start the car and switch to backup gear, the rear camera always works normally, however, after driving 10 minutes or longer the camera does not work anymore and the screen shows an exclamation mark when gear switched to backup. This happens approximately 80% times, while the other 20% times the camera would work OK even after long driving time.
The camera is wired normally with power connected to backup light. Backup light power is also connect to the head unit as trigger for rear camera video.
I was initially thinking this could be a bad camera issue, but the problem persists after installation of a new camera. So it must be the unit.
Has anyone else experienced similar problem? Any help to fix the issue is much appreciated.
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modern car? possibly smart power management and therefore not sending enough power to the camera as it detects the reverse light not needing that much power. my vw golf does it and my friends bmw 1 series did, if its wired to a switch 12v does it do the same?
fma965 said:
modern car? possibly smart power management and therefore not sending enough power to the camera as it detects the reverse light not needing that much power. my vw golf does it and my friends bmw 1 series did, if its wired to a switch 12v does it do the same?
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Thank you, fma965. That makes sense.
The car is 2013 Prius. I did not realize cars are getting much smarter since last few years. 12v can come down a lot to save energy. I'll try to rewire the power connection.
yves31 said:
Thank you, fma965. That makes sense.
The car is 2013 Prius. I did not realize cars are getting much smarter since last few years. 12v can come down a lot to save energy. I'll try to rewire the power connection.
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you may need to use a relay to detect when reverse light is on then trigger camera via 12v connection (elsewhere) otherwise the camera will be always on
yves31 said:
Thank you, fma965. That makes sense.
The car is 2013 Prius. I did not realize cars are getting much smarter since last few years. 12v can come down a lot to save energy. I'll try to rewire the power connection.
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http://www.halfords.com/workshop-to...fixings/halfords-hef554-relay-12v-30amp-4-pin is what i've used (UK)
12v cigareete lighter / battery to 1 pin, gnd to another pin, camera to the 3rd pin and the reverse light power to the 4th pin (not in that order)
fma965 said:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-to...fixings/halfords-hef554-relay-12v-30amp-4-pin is what i've used (UK)
12v cigareete lighter / battery to 1 pin, gnd to another pin, camera to the 3rd pin and the reverse light power to the 4th pin (not in that order)
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Thanks. I ordered a 12v/30amp/4pin relay and will install according to your instructions when it arrives.
fma965 said:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-to...fixings/halfords-hef554-relay-12v-30amp-4-pin is what i've used (UK)
12v cigareete lighter / battery to 1 pin, gnd to another pin, camera to the 3rd pin and the reverse light power to the 4th pin (not in that order)
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Relay came yesterday and I installed it. Pull cigarette lighter as 12v power source, wired to the relay switch, and connected rear light cable to relay as trigger.
To my surprise, the problem of video still persists! I can get rear camera video when starting the car, but loss video ~10 minutes after driving when shifting gear to reverse.
I made sure the relay wired correctly (If connected wrong, I would be either stuck in permanent rear camera video or no video after shifting to rear gear). I changed video cable as well to be sure no cable issue. Also noticed that when the problem appears, I have to wait for the head unit to shutdown completely (not to sleep mode) in order to get video back from rear camera.
Not sure if this is MCU bug. The problem started since I had the unit and MCU got updated once. I'll update one more time to see if anything changes.
yves31 said:
Relay came yesterday and I installed it. Pull cigarette lighter as 12v power source, wired to the relay switch, and connected rear light cable to relay as trigger.
To my surprise, the problem of video still persists! I can get rear camera video when starting the car, but loss video ~10 minutes after driving when shifting gear to reverse.
I made sure the relay wired correctly (If connected wrong, I would be either stuck in permanent rear camera video or no video after shifting to rear gear). I changed video cable as well to be sure no cable issue. Also noticed that when the problem appears, I have to wait for the head unit to shutdown completely (not to sleep mode) in order to get video back from rear camera.
Not sure if this is MCU bug. The problem started since I had the unit and MCU got updated once. I'll update one more time to see if anything changes.
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What MCU manufacturer and what version? i'm on KGL crossflashed to HA
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What MCU manufacturer and what version? i'm on KGL crossflashed to HA
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It's MTCD_KD_V2.41_1, and is already the latest version. I'll try to flash other manufacturer's MCU since most of them are compatible.
Prior to flashing, I should start by erasing current MCU settings and set to defaults. Do you know the best way to do so?
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MCU flashed to HA-2.52, but problem not changed. Seems to be a hardware issue, or compatibility issue with Prius.
I tried to wire rear camera to front video input. Image did show up, but I had to press a button each time when switching to back gear. I may have to live with the issue.
Strangely enough I have a 2010 Prius and yes I have a similar issue. Mine works almost always, but if I switch to reverse, then back to any gear, then back to reverse, more then 5-6 time during a minute, then I have the same as you. I'm pretty sure we have the same cause. If I reboot the unit everything is ok. Our situation is definitely different to the german cars as they have a detection circuit for failed bulb and that is the reason for their issues. Ours don't have that, at least ZVW30 Prius. I doubt it's the power or the camera. That is the unit itself and as you say probably poor hardware design.
Agree with you.
Additional note:
I had some issues after cross flashing MCU. Lost RDS in radio and iGo became very slow. Now I flash original KD MCU back and everything got back to normal. Cross flash MCU may not be always a good idea.
Hi you solved?
Mine do the same..its another car...more strange that mine works fine before i change battery...after that start with problems...
It switch but take 5 mins at least...
I rewire.put relay.put direct 12 and nothins..sometimes it works at second..bit after nothings....
Any help?
Thanks
Hello,
I had the same issue and check voltage. For an insane reason, the wire provided with the radar kit was totaly failing.. measured voltage was around 5 volts whereas camera required 12v ( i though to the USB volatge first, but, no!). This red&black wire, i don't known how, went to a huge resistance... may be pinch. I change for good power wire and throw away the bad one. My rear camera get back...
Bruno
yves31 said:
Thank you, fma965. That makes sense.
The car is 2013 Prius. I did not realize cars are getting much smarter since last few years. 12v can come down a lot to save energy. I'll try to rewire the power connection.
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I'm looking for someone who knows how to rewire. You guys know a good place?
Hi all, hope someone can help me,
I have an X-Trons branded unit MTCE_GS PX5 unit running Android Oreo (8.0) and all seems to be working well except for the AV-Out.
I was assuming I could use one of the two AV Out connections to connect to the TV in my Campervan to mirror the screen. I have tried to connect to them both but getting no output to the TV.
Is there a setting I need to change or is it not possible and these connections are for something else?
Thanks
KevCorks
Some of these Android head-units only send output to the video out connections when the unit is in Aux or DVD mode.
I ordered two units - one Hizpo-branded unit (MTCE-XRC), which I believe is that same as the Xtrons - and an Eonon-branded unit (MTCE-WWW) - both octa-core, 4GB of RAM and running Android 8.0.
The Eonon-branded MTCE-WWW unit sends the video out signal at ALL times regardless of the input selected - it simply mirrors what is on the head-unit screen regardless of what it is.
The Hizpo-branded MTCE-XRC unit would only send the video out signal if you were playing a DVD or used the Aux input.
Both units, however, did let you view the navigation app on the head-unit screen while also sending the video out signal (so you could still see navigation without interfering with the video output sent to other screens).
I suspect that your video out will only work if viewing a DVD or when using the aux-in input.
Thanks
Thats a bugger!
My intention was to use the head unit when camping to feed to the TV for Iplayer, Netflix etc.
I Don't use a DVD player anymore and don't want to feed a signal into the stereo just to feed it out to the TV, kind of defeats the object really.
Thanks for the quick reply
KevCorks
Yeah, I was kind of disappointed with the way the Hizpo-branded unit worked in that respect as well. I have headrest monitors in my car and really don't use physical DVD's anymore either - so it basically rendered my headrest monitors useless. I ended up returning the Hizpo and kept the Eonon. Although, neither unit has real "dual zone" capabilities like my older WinCE-baded head-units, which allowed me to send both audio and video to the headrest monitors while using the head-unit for something completely different (so I could listen to music while the kids in the back watched movies with headphones). Can't do that with these Android units, which is a shame. Fortunately, my kid is older now so I rarely use the headrest monitors any more (especially since kids have tablets nowdays anyway)...
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Thats a bugger!
My intention was to use the head unit when camping to feed to the TV for Iplayer, Netflix etc.
I Don't use a DVD player anymore and don't want to feed a signal into the stereo just to feed it out to the TV, kind of defeats the object really.
Thanks for the quick reply
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The solution for me to use video out was to buy an displaylink usb card with hdmi output , to plug it on USB/OTG and install DisplayLink Presenter.
I try a lot of usb otg to hdmi adapter, and compatible "displaylink" driver because it is very simple without any start program each time.
The problem is to buy the right card: small, compatible OTG, without dc 5v... : for me it was: "Delock Adapter USB 3.0 > HDMI (4K)" / Item No. 62617.
myspac said:
The solution for me to use video out was to buy an displaylink usb card with hdmi output , to plug it on USB/OTG and install DisplayLink Presenter.
I try a lot of usb otg to hdmi adapter, and compatible "displaylink" driver because it is very simple without any start program each time.
The problem is to buy the right card: small, compatible OTG, without dc 5v... : for me it was: "Delock Adapter USB 3.0 > HDMI (4K)" / Item No. 62617.
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Thanks @myspac !!
I'd like to copy your idea Quick 3 questions:
1) While the adapter is USB 3.0 I assume your unit was USB 2.0 right? No problem for the adapter to work on USB 2 mode, right?
2) How is the delay? noticeable? My idea is to have a 2nd screen closer to the line of sight of the driver, mainly to see the navigation, so delay any will be a problem.
3) Any additional advice?
Kr
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Video out Android 8.0 PX5 MTCE XRC upgraded to Hal9k
I have same problem no video outs on mtce xrc i was thinking maybe need to replace mcu software for other one it will work if i put mtce hu ore some other? i dont know if i can put mcu from another manufacture ! so please if someone knows replay to me.thanks!!!
maxiauer said:
Thanks @myspac !!
I'd like to copy your idea Quick 3 questions:
1) While the adapter is USB 3.0 I assume your unit was USB 2.0 right? No problem for the adapter to work on USB 2 mode, right?
2) How is the delay? noticeable? My idea is to have a 2nd screen closer to the line of sight of the driver, mainly to see the navigation, so delay any will be a problem.
3) Any additional advice?
Kr
Max
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did you manage to make the connection afterwards, if yes what did you buy?
thanks
dodis827 said:
did you manage to make the connection afterwards, if yes what did you buy?
thanks
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Yeap, and it mostly worked.
So, I acquired "PPA USB 3.0 to HDMI External Display Adapter 5460", but only because it was available at Frys on my neighborhood and I could return it in case the idea did not work. I guess any DisplayLink compliant adapter would work the same.
Some caveats:
- I never perceived any delay
- Works on Android 8 and 9
- In android 9, sometimes the video is not mirrored. I haven't had time to debug it, it might be the fact that I am using a custom ROM. Plug and Unplug the USB solves it, but as my cabling is not accessible, I usually reset the unit.
- I use the DisplayLink Desktop (Demo) (Early Access) app and NOT the DisplayLink Presenter App (so, you will be using a beta app). Not sure if the Presenter App works.
- The Desktop SW will try to send audio through the HDMI. I solved that with "Lesser AudioSwitch" app to have control of audio routing (maybe the DisplayLink Presenter app does not have this problem?)
All in all, I am happy with the outcome. While not perfect (due to the random black displays now and then), it is not expensive and easy to install.
Hope this helps
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Yeap, and it mostly worked.
So, I acquired "PPA USB 3.0 to HDMI External Display Adapter 5460", but only because it was available at Frys on my neighborhood and I could return it in case the idea did not work. I guess any DisplayLink compliant adapter would work the same.
Some caveats:
- I never perceived any delay
- Works on Android 8 and 9
- In android 9, sometimes the video is not mirrored. I haven't had time to debug it, it might be the fact that I am using a custom ROM. Plug and Unplug the USB solves it, but as my cabling is not accessible, I usually reset the unit.
- I use the DisplayLink Desktop (Demo) (Early Access) app and NOT the DisplayLink Presenter App (so, you will be using a beta app). Not sure if the Presenter App works.
- The Desktop SW will try to send audio through the HDMI. I solved that with "Lesser AudioSwitch" app to have control of audio routing (maybe the DisplayLink Presenter app does not have this problem?)
All in all, I am happy with the outcome. While not perfect (due to the random black displays now and then), it is not expensive and easy to install.
Hope this helps
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Thanks, I have a dasaita px5 with 4 GB of ram with Android 6.1, do you think there is hope that it will work? But every time you turn on the radio does it connect automatically?
dodis827 said:
Thanks, I have a dasaita px5 with 4 GB of ram with Android 6.1, do you think there is hope that it will work? But every time you turn on the radio does it connect automatically?
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I also have the Dasaita PX5 that (originally) came with Android 6.1 (MTC-D version, not E). I don't know if this would work on Android 6.1. DisplayLink claims the app requires "Any Android device running Lollipop 5.0 or later..." and the device is plain USB 2.0... but you never know with old Android releases. Worst case you will have to upgrade to Andoid 8 or 9
The DisplayLink App is able to auto-start every time that the USB port is started and the DisplayLink device is detected (meaning, every time you start the car). In my case, this usually works w/o issues...but once a week it fails to detect the DisplayLink device. This problem could be the device I am using (DisplayLink sells the patent to chinese companies to manufacture their own device), the fact that I am using a custom ROM, or the fact that the DisplayLink app is still beta...
In short: I can not promise it will always work. And I can not promise that any chinese HW will work as well as the one I have.
Also, you might want to route the USB cable using an USB extension cord, in a way that you can plug and unplug the extension without dismounting the whole unit...just in case.
WARNING: my DSP antenna was almost NEXT to the external display, and I originally used cheap HDMI cables to go from the adapter to the display. That messed my GPS in a terrible way (no Satellite found). Problem was solved when I acquired a better (not necessarily top expensive) HDMI cable.
Hope this helps
Max
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I also have the Dasaita PX5 that (originally) came with Android 6.1 (MTC-D version, not E). I don't know if this would work on Android 6.1. DisplayLink claims the app requires "Any Android device running Lollipop 5.0 or later..." and the device is plain USB 2.0... but you never know with old Android releases. Worst case you will have to upgrade to Andoid 8 or 9
The DisplayLink App is able to auto-start every time that the USB port is started and the DisplayLink device is detected (meaning, every time you start the car). In my case, this usually works w/o issues...but once a week it fails to detect the DisplayLink device. This problem could be the device I am using (DisplayLink sells the patent to chinese companies to manufacture their own device), the fact that I am using a custom ROM, or the fact that the DisplayLink app is still beta...
In short: I can not promise it will always work. And I can not promise that any chinese HW will work as well as the one I have.
Also, you might want to route the USB cable using an USB extension cord, in a way that you can plug and unplug the extension without dismounting the whole unit...just in case.
WARNING: my DSP antenna was almost NEXT to the external display, and I originally used cheap HDMI cables to go from the adapter to the display. That messed my GPS in a terrible way (no Satellite found). Problem was solved when I acquired a better (not necessarily top expensive) HDMI cable.
Hope this helps
Max
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Ok Thank you, I want to buy this StarTech-com-Adattatore-Convertitore-Esterna-Displaylinkd, The manufacturer says it's not compatible with Android, now I don't know what to buy is try, If it doesn't work I throw away 70€
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Ok Thank you, I want to buy this StarTech-com-Adattatore-Convertitore-Esterna-Displaylinkd, The manufacturer says it's not compatible with Android, now I don't know what to buy is try, If it doesn't work I throw away 70€
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So, what won't work for sure is the feature of "...installazione e aggiornamenti automatici dei driver..." because Win drivers are different than Android. Actually, that looks to me like "tricky advertising", my understanding is that DisplayLink drivers come by default with Windows, so all DisplayLink are plug&play on windows.
Will the device work once you installed DisplayLink app on Android?... it should, but...
Anyway the device looks expensive (although Star-Tech is a good brand) Why not trying with some Chinese HW? Also, is Amazon available on your area? Usually you can return things to Amazon without any issue.
Max
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So, what won't work for sure is the feature of "...installazione e aggiornamenti automatici dei driver..." because Win drivers are different than Android. Actually, that looks to me like "tricky advertising", my understanding is that DisplayLink drivers come by default with Windows, so all DisplayLink are plug&play on windows.
Will the device work once you installed DisplayLink app on Android?... it should, but...
Anyway the device looks expensive (although Star-Tech is a good brand) Why not trying with some Chinese HW? Also, is Amazon available on your area? Usually you can return things to Amazon without any issue.
Max
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Yes I have Amazon in my area cost so much..... How much did you pay him?
I know it's an old thread, but only one I could find about getting video out to work on these units. Joying now sells a USB to rca video adapter and I wanted to ask if anyone has tried it on different brand units? They say it only works on joying and even messaged me after I ordered one to confirm I had joying unit (I do not in fact but told them to please send it anyway). I have an Xtrons px5 unit with Android 10. The dongle says for joying Android 10 unit so I'm hoping that since most of these units are similar it will still work.
Here is link to that dongle:
Joying RCA Video Out Adapter for Headrest
SKU: V-RCAShip From: China Note: This RCA video out adapter only compatible with Joying Android 10.0 car radio, if you own other system JOYING head unit, please don't buy this. It will ship by China post, 12-28 days to arrive, if you want fast shipping methond, pls pay extra 15USD at this link.
www.joyingauto.com
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I know it's an old thread, but only one I could find about getting video out to work on these units. Joying now sells a USB to rca video adapter and I wanted to ask if anyone has tried it on different brand units? They say it only works on joying and even messaged me after I ordered one to confirm I had joying unit (I do not in fact but told them to please send it anyway). I have an Xtrons px5 unit with Android 10. The dongle says for joying Android 10 unit so I'm hoping that since most of these units are similar it will still work.
Here is link to that dongle:
Joying RCA Video Out Adapter for Headrest
SKU: V-RCAShip From: China Note: This RCA video out adapter only compatible with Joying Android 10.0 car radio, if you own other system JOYING head unit, please don't buy this. It will ship by China post, 12-28 days to arrive, if you want fast shipping methond, pls pay extra 15USD at this link.
www.joyingauto.com
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Did it work the joying adapter?
Eddie31386 said:
Did it work the joying adapter?
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It did not unfortunately.
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It did not unfortunately.
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Is it an MTCD
marchnz said:
Is it an MTCD
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It's MTCD/MTCE. Exact model is PBX80JCCL.
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It's MTCD/MTCE. Exact model is PBX80JCCL.
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Yes but is it an MTCD type.
You would have noted the posts listing how to ID your unit, based on MCU version.
Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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those 10" units are known to have a space between the display and the actual touch, resulting in almost a 3D / depth-like effect of the stuff onscreen (when watched from an angle, which happens usually where the driver or passenger are looking at it, no one is looking straight perpendicular to the screen). Is this also the case with this unit?
Is it known under different names? I’d love to find a thread’s talking about software options. Anyway, I don’t really notice any kind of a 3-D effect, if you look at it from an extreme angle, it does look like there is a small gap, but I definitely don’t feel it when pressing on the glass. It’s a beautiful display, a lot nicer than I would have expected.
Bluetooth seems not working in the 20190428 update.
Tried update and clean install, neither Bluetooth worked. The rest so far so good.
WangYcca said:
Bluetooth seems not working in the 20190428 update.
Tried update and clean install, neither Bluetooth worked. The rest so far so good.
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Where are you finding the updates?
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Is it known under different names? I’d love to find a thread’s talking about software options. Anyway, I don’t really notice any kind of a 3-D effect, if you look at it from an extreme angle, it does look like there is a small gap, but I definitely don’t feel it when pressing on the glass. It’s a beautiful display, a lot nicer than I would have expected.
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yes, the display is beautiful, very good contrast and color saturation.
i've seen one installed in a car few days ago, and the first thing i noticed (was sitting in the passenger seat) was the depth effect. This effect is not present in all other units 7", 8" or 9". You could see it more in the launcher main screen (it was an Ownice), less in FM radio app or mediaplayer, navi, etc...
another thing that i didn't like was that for my car i had to cancel the airbag warning connector since the unit comes with own mask and for VW/Skoda the mask that is used for 8 or 9" units has a airbag connector. The Ownice 10.2" did not. Also an issue is the huge screen at night with white background apps which even at lowest brightness they still blow your eyes off
I may buy the dsp version soon from ali express.
I need to find out if the mcu is an MTCE first, as hal9k will be developing his rom for px6 mtce, and i wouldnt be suprised if malaysk adds it too
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I may buy the dsp version soon from ali express.
I need to find out if the mcu is an MTCE first, as hal9k will be developing his rom for px6 mtce, and i wouldnt be suprised if malaysk adds it too
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Dasaita manufactures only mtce units
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yes, the display is beautiful, very good contrast and color saturation.
i've seen one installed in a car few days ago, and the first thing i noticed (was sitting in the passenger seat) was the depth effect. This effect is not present in all other units 7", 8" or 9". You could see it more in the launcher main screen (it was an Ownice), less in FM radio app or mediaplayer, navi, etc...
another thing that i didn't like was that for my car i had to cancel the airbag warning connector since the unit comes with own mask and for VW/Skoda the mask that is used for 8 or 9" units has a airbag connector. The Ownice 10.2" did not. Also an issue is the huge screen at night with white background apps which even at lowest brightness they still blow your eyes off
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to clarify this, i suspect the ownice i saw had that 2.5D+nano screen, because my 10.2 dasaita has no depth issue whatsoever on its ips screen.
reg. airbag warning, it's just not visible, you need to take it out from the old cover together without unplugging it and just place it behind the screen. it won't give errors but it's not visible either...
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to clarify this, i suspect the ownice i saw had that 2.5D+nano screen, because my 10.2 dasaita has no depth issue whatsoever on its ips screen.
reg. airbag warning, it's just not visible, you need to take it out from the old cover together without unplugging it and just place it behind the screen. it won't give errors but it's not visible either...
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also no issues on my IPS screen either! Great unit for what it is. Of course there are little issues here and there like all units.
I rooted mine so I could freeze apps I don't need and really clean everything up
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also no issues on my IPS screen either! Great unit for what it is. Of course there are little issues here and there like all units.
I rooted mine so I could freeze apps I don't need and really clean everything up
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Do you have advices to root dasaita px6 ?
Thank you
Waiting infos on root aswell
What about fastboot? Can it do 2s boot? and sleep with <1mA low power?
Has anyone looked at (somehow) adding HD Radio?
My Rav4 HU has this and I've found it to be much better at receiving a signal (where I live anyway). I'm looking at a PX6 dasaita unit on Ali (also), but they all have the 6686 radio chip, where the 6688 radio chip has HD Radio included. I wonder if the 6688 couldn't be somehow retrofitted? Yes of course there would have to be pin compatibility etc, has anyone looked at that by chance?
I'm so tempted to just buy one and say scr*w the HD Radio... but sadly it's about the only thing I use the HU for! it would be hard to give that up as I almost always have the screen off
Cheers, they sure do look nice, would love to have one. Not sure if it would suit my needs though, when all said and done.
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Anyone else got this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QV67XBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm loving it!
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Do you also have carplay wire/wireless chip on unit? did you see if that is able to charge your iphone with carplay on?
ALso have you driven longer than 2 hrs? with this unit ? I had PX5 and it used to reset over using it continuously for 2hr or more. and also PX5 was not charging iPhone while carplay was on.
If possible could any one update me on this?
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Do you also have carplay wire/wireless chip on unit? did you see if that is able to charge your iphone with carplay on?
ALso have you driven longer than 2 hrs? with this unit ? I had PX5 and it used to reset over using it continuously for 2hr or more. and also PX5 was not charging iPhone while carplay was on.
If possible could any one update me on this?
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It does charge while doing CarPlay because it’s wireless so I just plug it into my charger. Works totally fine for hours on end. I’ve got an annoying bug with VLC thinking it doesn’t have delete permissions unless I manually grant it twice, but that’s unrelated. Also a bug with my iphones voice to text requires me to type a character first before it’ll pick up mic input, but I think it’s an iPhone issue.
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It does charge while doing CarPlay because it’s wireless so I just plug it into my charger. Works totally fine for hours on end. I’ve got an annoying bug with VLC thinking it doesn’t have delete permissions unless I manually grant it twice, but that’s unrelated. Also a bug with my iphones voice to text requires me to type a character first before it’ll pick up mic input, but I think it’s an iPhone issue.
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So far looks good then.
I do not find any description on link you got on amazon, specifying about wireless carplay, i tried contacting Iris he replied that there is option to get carplay wire/wireless on PX6. I ask him to send me link to product he is yet to reply.
Did you have to specify Dasaita to get you wireless carplay? or its just standard now?
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So far looks good then.
I do not find any description on link you got on amazon, specifying about wireless carplay, i tried contacting Iris he replied that there is option to get carplay wire/wireless on PX6. I ask him to send me link to product he is yet to reply.
Did you have to specify Dasaita to get you wireless carplay? or its just standard now?
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I could be mistaken, but I think it's wireless. I hadn't asked for anything in particular, so it might be standard now.
I have dasaita - car play works on wire plus you have to have additional box/device ( can buy it in bundle with head unit). When iPhone connected through it - CarPlay works seamlessly and your phone is charging.
One more thing - you need to have application for CarPlay too.
Regards. k
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I could be mistaken, but I think it's wireless. I hadn't asked for anything in particular, so it might be standard now.
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Would you mind creating a video and share it over youtube? about carplay ? I am interested to see it.(& I believe most of us here wants to)
I have posted mine about blackout screen a while ago.
https://youtu.be/1qTh_JQggm8
https://youtu.be/1qTh_JQggm8
Good Afternoon,
Can people say if they experience phone call lag when they are using wireless carplay with zlink?
Basically where there is a delay in you hearing the other person and vice versa so you end up talking over each other. at the moment with carplay dongles i get about about a 2 second delay.
I've tried all the dongles (Autokit, Autoplay, Zbox) and i get the delay with all of them so looking at buying a head unit (PX6) with zlink build in.
Many Thanks
Is it an MTCD or variant of, type unit
i have a mtce. (px6) and it didnt come with zlink so have been using dongles but all result in lag, thought a head unit with zlink might be better from what ive found online