Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro owners are reporting "spontaneous" screen cracksBY SCOTT SCRIVENS
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who else has had their google pixel 6 pro screen crack on them while charging or while it wasnt used - Google Pixel Community
Another reported example (Source)
A cracking phone in more ways than oneIn an ideal world, expensive tech products would all be perfect right out of the gate and we'd never have to report on any issues. Sadly, that's not the world we live in, and every device will have the odd problem. Google's Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro are no stranger to this — the latest unfortunate defect relates to the display. Several owners have reported cracks appearing on the front glass of their new Google phones, and they're at a loss when it comes to explaining why.
Numerous bewildered Pixel owners have taken to Reddit and Google's support forum to express their displeasure, with reports stretching back a couple of months. The more expensive Pixel 6 Pro, with its curved glass screen, is at fault in the majority of cases, but the regular Pixel 6 is also implicated by some. Both phones are built using Gorilla Glass Victus front and back, which is said to be the toughest phone glass on the market. This hasn't stopped units from developing cracks, with most examples starting in the corners of the display or from one of the sides. Using a case or screen protector doesn't seem to make this any more or less likely to happen.
Examples taken by Pixel owners (Source)
Spontaneous screen cracks like this aren't uncommon in smartphones, and they usually stem from a small manufacturing defect that causes pressure to build up in the display glass that eventually gives in and splits. Dramatic changes in temperature can also be a cause. It's more likely that there was simply a bad batch of Pixels that went out with a particular hardware fault, rather than this being a problem that every phone might face. So there's little reason to worry if you own a Pixel 6 and this hasn't yet happened to you yet. If it has, you're sadly just very unlucky since it probably affects a minuscule percentage of all the Pixels out there.
Examples taken by Pixel owners (Source)
From reading the customer complaints, it doesn't appear that the company has yet acknowledged this as a manufacturing defect — instead, the company line appears to be that these display cracks are the fault of the owners and that it isn't an issue that will be covered by the warranty. "Screens don't just crack" was the Google response reported by one disgruntled customer. This means they are having to shell out for screen replacement repairs themselves. Some are also finding that carrier insurance claims will only replace the entire phone at additional cost rather than just the screen, which is understandably very frustrating.
According to some reports, Google has said it is actively investigating the issue, so we hope they'll provide more clarity for owners and potentially free replacements if it's confirmed that there's a manufacturing defect to blame. With this many reports, it seems unlikely that user error is at fault.
We've reached out to Google for comment and will add any statement we get to this post.
Uh oh, some Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro owners are reporting spontaneous screen cracks
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fake news. you can tell they dropped their phones hence why the pictures are showing cracks on the corners
every few years. same thing is reported. doesn't matter if its Pyrex, Ovens or Smartphones. Been (falsely reported) since 1994. next...
and what happened to "all those" reports on "reddit" that were able to unlock their pixel 6's with a different fingerprint ...hmmm... nothing. nada. zip. or all these reports of "Google unlocking phones and accessing nudes!" at the warranty depot. jeez. what times we live in.
Pretty sure that those corner cracks are deliberate/drop damage. Many people that destroy their phone want a free new one, so they claim a "defect".
Of course it's entirely possible that some cases here are indeed caused by a defect - Phones these days are crammed to the top with stuff and since materials expand/decrease in size when they get colder/hotter, some cracks/damages might be caused even without user interaction - but it's hard to differentiate and find out the freeloaders that lie.
I did a bit of research on the topic and it seems that if tempered glass "randomly" explodes/cracks, usually the entire glass gets damaged/breaks, as you can see here.
I tried to find some genuine people on reddit that suffered these random glass going kaput problems, and the ones I found confirm my assumption
https://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/2mpyfv
Pictures of Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra users that reported the camera glass shattering also experienced these "grand scale" breaks because of a weakpoint.
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So I'd say these two phones here linked in this thread are probably fakenews, but then again I am not an expert and their stories might be genuine.
hello00 said:
fake news. you can tell they dropped their phones hence why the pictures are showing cracks on the corners
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That!!!
While it doesn't prove that it never happens, EVERY ONE of those images in OP's post show evidence of being dropped.
The guy didn't even bother to wipe off the dirt off his screen xD.
Staged
If the could at least stopped dropping the phone...
I have never cracked a screen and I've given my phones plenty of opportunities.
Between a TPU case (or even something more rugged) and a tempered glass screen protector, it should never happen. Always glad to replace a screen protector when it does its job.
People tend to think their cheap plastic or silicon bumper or flexible screen protector is enough.
LLStarks said:
I have never cracked a screen and I've given my phones plenty of opportunities.
Between a TPU case (or even something more rugged) and a tempered glass screen protector, it should never happen. Always glad to replace a screen protector when it does its job.
People tend to think their cheap plastic or silicon bumper or flexible screen protector is enough.
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Eh... "TPU" *is* "cheap plastic". Silicon is a much better case since it can actually dampen the shock. Its especially good when its a dual material, silicon + ABS or Aluminum.
And tempered glass screen protector... useless unless there is a soft layer between it and the phone screen, otherwise whatever force is received by the screen protector will be distributed directly to the actual screen below it. The only reason you see the screen protector break before the screen is because the screen is made out of a much more robust glass than your cheap fake-tempered glass.
LLStarks said:
I have never cracked a screen and I've given my phones plenty of opportunities.
Between a TPU case (or even something more rugged) and a tempered glass screen protector, it should never happen. Always glad to replace a screen protector when it does its job.
People tend to think their cheap plastic or silicon bumper or flexible screen protector is enough.
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I forget what rugged case I had on my original HTC Droid Eris, but back then (and several phones after that before Android Auto was available), my phones would go shooting out of their mount in the car and bounce around the back when I had near misses and had to hit the brakes hard. LOL!
Definitely OtterBox Defender the last six years.
Those look like dropped phones, not spontaneous...
roirraW edor ehT said:
I forget what rugged case I had on my original HTC Droid Eris, but back then (and several phones after that before Android Auto was available), my phones would go shooting out of their mount in the car and bounce around the back when I had near misses and had to hit the brakes hard. LOL!
Definitely OtterBox Defender the last six years.
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Ah heck, phones used to be built better. My HTC Dream (android developer phone 1) did a few leaps onto pavement from head height, and I even stepped on it once. With the sliding keyboard mechanism, you simply couldn't put a case on it. Couple of scratches, but functionally, its good as new.
I've dropped my phone in the garage on cement. No case and no cracks. I think I was lucky.
hello00 said:
fake news. you can tell they dropped their phones hence why the pictures are showing cracks on the corners
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For those who think screens don't just crack, they do.My screen cracked and was never dropped. And it has been in an OtterBox since day 3 (early November). From the pics you can see the corner of the so called "drop" somehow didn't manage to even scratch or mark up the OtterBox. Google has a problem - either there is a manufacturing defect in the brand new Corning Gorilla Victus glass, a seating problem with the glass on the phone, or the phone is not sufficiently rigid allowing the face to flex - all of which is a manufacturing or design defect and should be covered under warranty. I'm not trying to "cheat" to cover up my mistake. I have the means to fix it - I just shouldn't have to.
HokansonInSandy said:
For those who think screens don't just crack, they do.My screen cracked and was never dropped. And it has been in an OtterBox since day 3 (early November). From the pics you can see the corner of the so called "drop" somehow didn't manage to even scratch or mark up the OtterBox. Google has a problem - either there is a manufacturing defect in the brand new Corning Gorilla Victus glass, a seating problem with the glass on the phone, or the phone is not sufficiently rigid allowing the face to flex - all of which is a manufacturing or design defect and should be covered under warranty. I'm not trying to "cheat" to cover up my mistake. I have the means to fix it - I just shouldn't have to.
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You clearly have a screen protector on that phone that is peeling up/cracked. I'm guessing the real screen under it is perfectly fine. Try again.
HokansonInSandy said:
For those who think screens don't just crack, they do.My screen cracked and was never dropped. And it has been in an OtterBox since day 3 (early November). From the pics you can see the corner of the so called "drop" somehow didn't manage to even scratch or mark up the OtterBox. Google has a problem - either there is a manufacturing defect in the brand new Corning Gorilla Victus glass, a seating problem with the glass on the phone, or the phone is not sufficiently rigid allowing the face to flex - all of which is a manufacturing or design defect and should be covered under warranty. I'm not trying to "cheat" to cover up my mistake. I have the means to fix it - I just shouldn't have to.
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That is a badly applied screen protector, no wonder that screen protector cracked.
It pains me every time I see one of those garbage edge-adhesive protectors with the dot matrix air gap. They don't work.
As much as I'd love a full-adhesive protector without the UV glue process, they don't exist.
I always pass on using screen protectors... never been a issue with prior devices using a case with lip! Cheers
HokansonInSandy said:
For those who think screens don't just crack, they do.
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I don't doubt that. But I have yet to see evidence of this phenomenon, and your broken screen *protector* sure isn't it.
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Dear all,
After having experienced scratches on my phone's screen and reading countless of similar complaints by others, I have decided to petition HTC to do something about it.
The phone is supposed to have Gorilla Glass 2 which is scratch-resistant (not scratch-proof, I know) and so should resist the kind of scratches normal glass would endure from being in a pocket with keys. But it seems that HTC One X users are divided into two camps: The 'My screen is crazy durable! I can put it in the tumble dryer, take a hammer to it, etc.' camp and the 'I've got a scratch within an hour of having it. It was just in my pocket!' camp.
There is cause to believe some batches were simply defective.
Please take the time to sign this petition! Thank you.
Petition HTC One X Screen Scratches
PS - Don't bother saying:
1. It is not invincible or scratch-proof. It is only scratch-resistant.
Yes we all know this, but these scratches have occurred through normal use.
2. If you care so much, then why didn't you use a screen protector?
Because the whole point of having Gorilla Glass 2 is for users not to have to resort to using screen protectors which detracts from the beauty of the graphics.
3. You must have done something to it, MY screen is perfectly fine!
No, majority of those who have complained have either taken extreme care in using their phone, or used it in a way any other person would have. Most have also used HTC phones previously with no such problems.
Full credit for this post goes to
Mirlina
First off, thanks Sebianoti for helping me post the thread. I hope this will garner enough support and attention.
Corning have responded to me and this is what they said:
Good Day!
We are sorry to hear that you've had a problem with your device. While Corning® Gorilla® Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip or break, if subject to enough damage, Gorilla Glass, like all glass, can break. We recommend you contact your device manufacture to review your warranty and their repair program.
Thank you
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I have emphasied in bold the crucial part - that it is better able to survive real-world events i.e. normal use.
I just want to say something, and it's purely for clarifications sake...
If I view my phone under a light (with the screen off) and move it about I can see hash marks over the entire phone screen - almost like the pixel arrangement of the screen. I'm assuming this is NOT what you're on about and you have actual scratches on the screen? If so, then I'm in the 'I have a perfect phone' camp but good luck...although I don't know if it'll do any good
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I just want to say something, and it's purely for clarifications sake...
If I view my phone under a light (with the screen off) and move it about I can see hash marks over the entire phone screen - almost like the pixel arrangement of the screen. I'm assuming this is NOT what you're on about and you have actual scratches on the screen? If so, then I'm in the 'I have a perfect phone' camp but good luck...although I don't know if it'll do any good
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Yes, that is not what I mean. I actually have three types of scratches on my screen:
1. Light tiny scratches which can't be caught on camera and aren't bothersome;
2. Big, long scratches which can be captured and don't bother use of the screen but is obvious; and
3. One 1cm vertical scratch which distorts the colour of the screen.
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Mirlina said:
Yes, that is not what I mean. I actually have three types of scratches on my screen:
1. Light tiny scratches which can't be caught on camera and aren't bothersome;
2. Big, long scratches which can be captured and don't bother use of the screen but is obvious; and
3. One 1cm vertical scratch which distorts the colour of the screen.
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I think what we are seeing is scratching of the oleophobic coating which is on top of the Gorilla Glass, previous HTC phones didn't have this coating and so maybe that is why owners of previous models are saying they didn't get scratched so easily.
I'm sure someone posted they used an abrasive polish to try and remove the scratch and this then caused a bigger change in the glass appearance as they removed the coating from a larger area, so then continued to polish the whole screen to remove the coating. I'm not sure cosmetically what the final outcome was.
If I'm honest the oleophobic coating is a waste of time, it still gets covered in grease from fingers, and if it just means the screen appears to get scratched easily as the coating is softer than the glass, they should stop using it.
This problem isn't unique to the HTC One X, I found several references to similar issues, the iPhone 4S/iPad is prone to the same problem it seems. The difference is here we are incorrectly blaming HTC for inferior Gorilla Glass screens, in some cases it is suggested HTC haven't even used Gorilla Glass, when elsewhere it is recognised it isn't the glass getting scratched but the coating.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1293714
http://voices.yahoo.com/why-cant-remove-scratches-iphone-4s-screen-11037376.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/.../t-1133703.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1140954.html
http://apple.stackexchange.com/ques...hones-oleophobic-screen-coating-once-its-worn
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1602032.html
Regards
Phil
I think there's a percentage of people on this forum that are nuts. First, because their expectations are totally unrealistic. Second, for thinking a small group of people with unrealistic expectations are going to be able to garner enough support to force a multi-billion dollar company to change a devices design based on their whim. HTC puts out a product designed to serve the needs of millions and made choices in its design along the way. Don't like the choices they made? Don't buy the product. If you bought a Sony TV and didn't like the layout of the remote would you go on to a forum to start a campaign to have it redesigned? Why people feel that they should have some sort of say or control over how companies like Samsung and HTC design their mobile devices baffles me. The best way to send them a message is to simply stop buying their products.
First off, Would like to agree with point 1,2 and 3.
Secondly, I have no scratches since owning this device from release day.
Thirdly, what do you hope to achieve with a vote? Nothing will change. 1% of people with scratches will vote, 0.0001% of people without scratches will vote. 72% of statistics are made up. Getting a proportional representation is HARD.
Fourthly, This thread is pointless.
Fifthly, HTC, me, and 99% of the readers of your post don't care.
Sixthly, meh.
BarryH_GEG said:
I think there's a percentage of people on this forum that are nuts. First, because their expectations are totally unrealistic. Second, for thinking a small group of people with unrealistic expectations are going to be able to garner enough support to force a multi-billion dollar company to change a devices design based on their whim. HTC puts out a product designed to serve the needs of millions and made choices in its design along the way. Don't like the choices they made? Don't buy the product. If you bought a Sony TV and didn't like the layout of the remote would you go on to a forum to start a campaign to have it redesigned? Why people feel that they should have some sort of say or control over how companies like Samsung and HTC design their mobile devices baffles me. The best way to send them a message is to simply stop buying their products.
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Look mate, this is about the quality...
If you get a phone would you be happy if it started getting scratches even tho it uses the best screen that protects against that?,
i don't think so, another aspect to look at this is, many of those who purchased the One X got it on a 2 year contract, if it starts
getting scratches due to no fault of your own then imagine what it will look like in a year or so,
BarryH_GEG said:
I think there's a percentage of people on this forum that are nuts. First, because their expectations are totally unrealistic. Second, for thinking a small group of people with unrealistic expectations are going to be able to garner enough support to force a multi-billion dollar company to change a devices design based on their whim. HTC puts out a product designed to serve the needs of millions and made choices in its design along the way. Don't like the choices they made? Don't buy the product. If you bought a Sony TV and didn't like the layout of the remote would you go on to a forum to start a campaign to have it redesigned? Why people feel that they should have some sort of say or control over how companies like Samsung and HTC design their mobile devices baffles me. The best way to send them a message is to simply stop buying their products.
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I think the guys concerned over scratches that have happened that basically shouldn't of IF it was using GG2
therefore in the UK at least if a product is sold with certain claims and those claims are proven to be untrue they are liable.
different strokes for different folks but you gotta fight for your right to party
Sebianoti said:
Look mate, this is about the quality...
If you get a phone would you be happy if it started getting scratches even tho it uses the best screen that protects against that?,
i don't think so, another aspect to look at this is, many of those who purchased the One X got it on a 2 year contract, if it starts
getting scratches due to no fault of your own then imagine what it will look like in a year or so,
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There are reports of the same issue (microscopic scratches) with GG2 on the SGS3 forum. The difference is no one there would even think about starting a petition. In fact, most of the stuff people post on the One X forum would be run-off the SGS3 forum soon after it was posted. They have a far more serious issue. The edge-to-edge glass on the front of the SGS3 is easily cracked under stress or when it's dropped. They discuss cases and ways of preventing it from happening, not starting campaigns to get Samsung to change the design.
By all means carry on with your crusade. But think about this, if HTC were to admit there was a fault with the display it would affect 100% of phones produced. Every owner could demand a new display. At HTC's cost of $150 per phone, assuming they've sold 500K so far, that's $75MM in profit lost. Do you honestly see that happening? They'd gladly accept you and a percentage of others never buying an HTC product before absorbing that type of expense.
Back to a more constructive note, after hearing about the possibility of scratches I started investigating screen protectors. I bought this one. The full body protection version also comes with a protector for the camera lens. That to me is a more serious design issue then the performance of GG2 which is out of both Samsung and HTC's control.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/htc-one-x-skin
Its wet apply, incredibly easy to put on perfectly, covers the curves of the display, is crystal clear once on, and feels almost the same as the naked display. I’m very picky about my display and I’d highly recommend it.
BTW, who and where find out that HOX (international version) got Gorilla Glass 2? i cant find such info
My phone has been through quite a bit, dropped spend all day in my work pants and no scratches at all. Maybe I just lucky but my last phone htc desire been through same treatment and that was scratched bad.
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BTW, who and where find out that HOX (international version) got Gorilla Glass 2? i cant find such info
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What?... the frustration... god damn it HTC get your facts together,
I emailed HTC a number of times, each reply said the same thing...
HTC One X is using Gorilla glass 1.
Yep, that's right csj85, no less. Wait, what? Some random dude on the internet? Is that what proof is these days? When I studied for my degree, nothing from the internet was allowed to be submitted as evidence or research material; yeah, not even Wikipedia!
I have an EVO LTE and I can assure you..this things scratches easily. I have a nasty mark directly in the center of my screen. Followed by minor marks along it. I take care of my stuff so this is insulting.
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I have an EVO LTE
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Wrong forum?
BenPope said:
Yep, that's right csj85, no less. Wait, what? Some random dude on the internet? Is that what proof is these days? When I studied for my degree, nothing from the internet was allowed to be submitted as evidence or research material; yeah, not even Wikipedia!
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You guys amaze me. So you're actually suggesting that to prove a point about something as minor as whether a phone does or doesn't have GG2 someone photoshopped a tweet from HTC? There's an old adage, "people that can't trust, can't be trusted." Ponder that for a minute.
Mine has a small crack along one edge, I didn't drop it and no-one uses it but me. It's with HTC at the mo over the poor wifi issue but I'm hoping they'll sort the screen out too. I'm very careful with my phone, don't even take it out much but I'm thinking maybe there was a slight imperfection which I didn't notice and it propagated.
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You guys amaze me. So you're actually suggesting that to prove a point about something as minor as whether a phone does or doesn't have GG2 someone photoshopped a tweet from HTC? There's an old adage, "people that can't trust, can't be trusted." Ponder that for a minute.
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Sir i can assure you that the picture in question is in fact fake... I have the original right here!
Seriously though the screen can't scratch itself, it's glass! Look after it.
lol you guys...
Hi there,
After dealing with all (decent) screens protector on the market I decided to remove them all even the crappy Sony film and use just an liquid.
I don't care about scratches. I mean our glass should be quite resistant.
My big big problem are fingerprints so I felt particular confident about our Japanese friends and I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CEE913M/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_HCxQsb168QMCN
Tonight I'm going to apply it if someone of you is interested about results lemme know and I'll keep you updated.
UDATE:
So for the record I removed the sony original film protector, this how it was before:
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Here after I applied the Liquid after 12 hours of use without clean it:
Just to compare, I took a picture of my GF iPhone:
As you can see, still finger prints, but much less than before, and now seems a bit easier to clean too.
Here a neat video that show that (at the moment hehe) is really oleophobic:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5747628/IMG_0652.MOV.mov
Will I buy it again?: Quite expensive, that's true but now I'm quite satisfied, so currently yep I'll buy it again.
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Sure tell us how it goes
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Yeah, I'd like to know as well.
This how was before:
Right now seems much better, but honestly I'll wait to use it all the day to compare.
Stay tuned!
DAddYE said:
This how was before:
Right now seems much better, but honestly I'll wait to use it all the day to compare.
Stay tuned!
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Looks pretty nice. I'm using the Nillkin 9H on front and back and it looks and feels good. I get some smudges, and thats about it.
Hey, is that a landyard attached to the phone?
If so, which one is that?
Thanks
bhagiratha said:
Looks pretty nice. I'm using the Nillkin 9H on front and back and it looks and feels good. I get some smudges, and thats about it.
Hey, is that a landyard attached to the phone?
If so, which one is that?
Thanks
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I got it from my old Lumia 1020
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I got it from my old Lumia 1020
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Definitely keep us updated, I'm interested in seeing how this works out for you. I'm also curious about those other nano coatings that I keep seeing.
Quick update. I'll post some pictures later. But so far, I'm quite satisfied. I mean is not the silver bullet but my display looks much more clean of finger prints. Sure some are there but quite normal also in phones with a native oleophobic coating. The surface looks also smoother. Keep in mind that I'm also not sure if I applied it fully correctly
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Guys, updated the main thread with before/after.
Check the video too!!!
DAddYE said:
I don't care about scratches. I mean our glass should be quite resistant.
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Quite resistant does not mean you won't get scratches. Corning glass 3 gets scratched. If you don't care then its your call.
It only takes a little bit of sand to do it. Going naked is not worth it.
Fingerprints is not a big deal compared to scratches, at least they come off.
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My big big problem are fingerprints so I felt particular confident about our Japanese friends and I bought this
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So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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Will I buy it again?[/U][/B]: Quite expensive, that's true but now I'm quite satisfied, so currently yep I'll buy it again.
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Wait...you get just one coat with this product ?
One 5ml bottle (about 140 sprays) with 30 polishing cloths, and one washable microfiber cloth
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How many coats does this translate into for $27 ?
How many coats are you supposed to apply in one session ?
One Twelve said:
Quite resistant does not mean you won't get scratches. Corning glass 3 gets scratched. If you don't care then its your call.
It only takes a little bit of sand to do it. Going naked is not worth it.
Fingerprints is not a big deal compared to scratches, at least they come off.
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You're absolutely right, I usually take quite care of my phones, never applied covers or screen protector, the first is just because I usually buy a phone more for the balance between features and esthetic so cover this phone to me means: okay go and buy a Samsung.
The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.
Fingerprints makes the phone (especially at the end of the day) a dirty bag, which is ashamed to me
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So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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I read that too, obviously like for other phones which comes it a native anti fingerprint coating you should not use alcoholic liquids to clean your screen. This will absolutely help, but right now I can't say if will fall within 1 week, 1 month or 1 year. I'll keep you updated.
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Wait...you get just one coat with this product ?
How many coats does this translate into for $27 ?
How many coats are you supposed to apply in one session ?
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It's supposed to offer some like 130 coats, on the amazon page there aren't many instructions, on their youtube channel they show (IIRC) 1 or 2.
I put A LOT of them, 3 exactly which was huge so IMHO you can have easily at least 50 coats, but again it depends to you. As my GF aways says to me, I tend to exaggerate, so next time I'll try with just 1.5
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You're absolutely right, I usually take quite care of my phones, never applied covers or screen protector, the first is just because I usually buy a phone more for the balance between features and esthetic so cover this phone to me means: okay go and buy a Samsung.
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Phone esthetic is probably #1 or #2 reason many people went with Z1. So here is the contradiction or let's say conundrum.
You want a good looking phone. You also want to use this phone. If there is no protection it will get scratches.
But you want a good looking phone. So what do you do if it gets scratched. How can you program your brain to ignore those scratches.
Cases there are one or two that look good but the choice is limited otherwise with Z1 for now.
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The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.
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Nilkin tempered glass has cutout for proximity sensor. I find people are very happy with this one. Brando also has it. Glass-M i'm not sure.
This cutout is essential for proper proximity sensor operation.
For the front facing camera its not required.
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Fingerprints makes the phone (especially at the end of the day) a dirty bag, which is ashamed to me
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This is personal. But i find that it does not interfere with viewing too much. It's when you look at it at an angle that it looks bad. But guess what Z1 will not work too well at an angle anyway so fingerprints is not problem with this model :laugh:
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It's supposed to offer some like 130 coats, on the amazon page there aren't many instructions, on their youtube channel they show (IIRC) 1 or 2.
I put A LOT of them, 3 exactly which was huge so IMHO you can have easily at least 50 coats, but again it depends to you. As my GF aways says to me, I tend to exaggerate, so next time I'll try with just 1.5
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Question is what happens when the coating wears out ? Does anybody know ?
Does the screen catch your finger where the coating was before. So its smooth in areas where coating is good and in other areas its little more sticky. This can get a bit annoying after some time.
The advanatage i see with this product is you clean the screen, put another coat and its new again. With the other protectors, once it wears out, then there is no way to apply another coat.
I don't think any phone comes with oleophobic layer on the screen OOTB. It's only on tempered glass protectors or in this case you apply it yourself.
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Going naked is not worth it.
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One Twelve said:
So it creates an oleophobic coat. That coat will wear out over time just like with other finger print resistant protectors.
So i wonder what the frequency for reapplying the coat will be ? 3 months ? 6 months ? less....
I've found precious little info as to durability of these oleophobic coats, people seem to be over the moon when they get the product and then seem to fall silent.
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That all depends on how much you dry hump your screen.
I'm two months in now ("Liquid Glass Shield"), and ready for a second coat to see if I can notice any improvement. That will give me a pretty accurate reading (seeing as I'm the only one who knows aprox how much I've been using it day to day.
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Question is what happens when the coating wears out ? Does anybody know ?
Does the screen catch your finger where the coating was before. So its smooth in areas where coating is good and in other areas its little more sticky. This can get a bit annoying after some time.
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Not getting that.
It becomes a very thin layer, so you sort of wear it down, very miniscule with each time you glide your finger over it.
I suspect the changes are just to slow for you to catch on, and you will just after a long while realize that it has in fact become less smooth.
For me this is no issue, as I will stay ahead of it by re-applying "sooner than later"
I do change the outlook of my phone pretty often, so my movements on the screen are fairly varied.
If you have extremly repetitive movements on the same spot all the time, maybe what you speak of can occur.
Inconclusive without rigid testing I would say
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I don't think any phone comes with oleophobic layer on the screen OOTB. It's only on tempered glass protectors or in this case you apply it yourself.
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And this is not true
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Not a very wise one. Come across many people that decided to get protectors because the last one they cared for very carefully ended up getting scratched. These phones lose half their value in a year, if its scratched your resale price goes down further. Up to you.
Do you not see the irony here, how can you say you care about looks and go naked at the same time
You care about the phone in the initial weeks after that you forget about it, other things on your mind. It becomes a daily tool, a means to an end. A bumper with something for the back & front is a minimum. A pouch is another alternative. The ergonomics of these devices really does my head in, first you find something that is comfortable or close to it then you got to do the same with a case.
Another thing is i'm not too bothered about showing off the looks, i don't want to attract attention. Sometimes yes but most times its unnecessary. Say on the street when you're clicking stuff, last thing i'm going to do is show it to a stranger.
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That all depends on how much you dry hump your screen.
I'm two months in now ("Liquid Glass Shield"), and ready for a second coat to see if I can notice any improvement. That will give me a pretty accurate reading (seeing as I'm the only one who knows aprox how much I've been using it day to day.
Not getting that.
It becomes a very thin layer, so you sort of wear it down, very miniscule with each time you glide your finger over it.
I suspect the changes are just to slow for you to catch on, and you will just after a long while realize that it has in fact become less smooth.
For me this is no issue, as I will stay ahead of it by re-applying "sooner than later"
I do change the outlook of my phone pretty often, so my movements on the screen are fairly varied.
If you have extremly repetitive movements on the same spot all the time, maybe what you speak of can occur.
Inconclusive without rigid testing I would say
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Am speculating as to what will happen. Have seen liquid applicaiton products being sold as scratch guards but i think the idea is to prevent fingerprints.
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Its not clear whether this comes standard or not as corning offers bare glass too.
Corning offers the option to have an oleophobic coating. Now whether the phone manufacturer chose it or not., which devices have this ez to clean layer or not is unclear.
The docs mention 'easy to clean' but the word oleophobic does not appear. maybe it was not in fashion in 2010 which is when this doc was made.
Complimenting Corning Gorilla Glass is a fluorosilane coating available to promote wipability for removal of fingerprints and residue to re-attain optical clarity.
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How durable is cornings easy-to-wipe coating ?
The ability for easy-to-clean coatings to survive repeated wiping is paramount. As such, a test to repeatedly wipe or rub the surface and test functionality after suitable iterations is required.Testing incorporates the use of a textile instrument used to wipe one cloth across another, to test the resistance of a cloth dye from rubbing off, referred to as a“crock meter”. This was suggested to Corning, as well as the generic use of the textile industry’s standard woven cotton cloth for testing.The test comprises of wiping the cloth across the coated glass surface in a reciprocating manner for the intended duration of wipes, with a load of ~ 1.5 PSI applied to the cloth. After attaining the intended number of wipes, the surface is tested for changes in static contact angle, which indicates coating degradation with severe changes in angles from initially high values for the coating (>100° for water) towards much lower values for base glass (typically <10° for clean, bare glass).
Conceptually this method of wiping imitates the approximate pressure a user would apply to a hand-held device when wiping the device across their shirt or slacks to remove fingerprint oil. Simple calculation suggests that ~10 wipes per day for three years compares to ~10,000 wipes, thus the target value of 20,000 wipes was identified to dictate suitable durability for offering to customers.
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Corning glass 3 specs, no mention of easy to wipe layer in there at all.
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Do you not see the irony here, how can you say you care about looks and go naked at the same time
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This sentence to me, IS ironic.
I'll flip it for you.
If you care about how your device looks, why would you wrap it up in a clunky case?
People threat their stuff in conjuction with how they care about it.
I'm fortunate enough to be able to go buy another one.
I threat it it very carefully, and if something unforeseen still were to happen, than that is the risk I have taken.
People want to protect their investment, and make it resellable, I get that.
Doesn't mean everyone who don't are reckless.
It's like buying a classy expensive couch, then laying a cheesy plastic on top of it.
Had it for like ten weeks now, and no, still not sick of it
Not important to show it off, but the feel in the hand, and myself admiring it is enough for me.
I wear a skin on the back, so I can put it down on unwelcoming surfaces.
Also get rid of the branding this way, which make it look more sleek imo.
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Am speculating as to what will happen. Have seen liquid applicaiton products being sold as scratch guards but i think the idea is to prevent fingerprints.
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This seems like a common misconception.
Alot of the products I have checked out, have explained to people in their faq's that it does not make the screen scratch proof.
It's for easier removal of grease, and for a untreated screen, it makes it smooth.
Without it, it will feel jittery, and your finger will start skipping all over.
As for the rest, I will not go into it, as it is beside topic.
I'm not a chemical engineer either, and these semantics serve noe purpose to the thread.
You seem however, interested in knowing how long these products lasts.
I used a crystalusion wipe on the previous Z I had.
Shortly after giving it away to my friend for his birthday, I tested how the screens felt next to each other.
Mine was clearly more smooth with its's fresh layer.
The layer on the Z was then maybe five months old.
So If you think it will last like half a year or more, then you might be dissapointed.
Products differ though, and their might be a better one out there that I have not tried of course
Well I don't use any protectors on my phones except for the very odd time that I don't have either a shirt with a pocket or a jacket on, for those times I use a pouch. At least that way when I'm using the phone it feels nice. I have tried a screen protector but not for me. I see friends that use screen protectors and I have yet to see a good one.
Also I find that without any protection on my phone I am more carfull with it.
I remember back in the day when I had an iphone 4s people used to spend so much on bumpers that they used to put protection on their bumpers. Funny.
very interesting
very nice product!
i will try to find in Brazil.
it has some cons?
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(...) The latter because I'm unable to find a good one (without sensor/len holes) which doesn't ruin the colors and the display experience overall.(...)
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(...) Nilkin tempered glass has cutout for proximity sensor. I find people are very happy with this one. Brando also has it. Glass-M i'm not sure.
This cutout is essential for proper proximity sensor operation.
For the front facing camera its not required.(...)
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Hey there guys. You might be interested in a research I've done on Tempered Glass protectors for Z1, currently available on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519604
One of the most recent finds is the Crystal Armor's Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (http://www.crystal-armor.com/#!/items/5291cf428a56105df40007b0). I believe it is the only protector without any cut-out (neither for camera nor for the proximity sensor).
I've also thought that the cutout for the proximity sensor is the essential element, but it seems that it is not after all. I'm not sure if the phone behavior stays the same after the application of the protector, so someone would have to buy it and test it. Since my Glass-M glass protector cracked (phone fell on bathroom tiles literally face down, so the protector most likely saved my screen), I think I will give it a try.
Anyone tried the IMOS screen protector?
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Shander said:
I've also thought that the cutout for the proximity sensor is the essential element, but it seems that it is not after all. I'm not sure if the phone behavior stays the same after the application of the protector, so someone would have to buy it and test it.
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It gets quirky if the sensor is covered. The solution is to re-calibrate the proximity sensor. The Z Ultra lets you do it, i'm not sure if the Z1 can do it. yet.
Shander said:
Since my Glass-M glass protector cracked (phone fell on bathroom tiles literally face down, so the protector most likely saved my screen), I think I will give it a try.
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heh, this is life isn't it. Unpredictable. You took the time to get a good protector and broke it shortly after. But maybe it saved you from worse and that is why you took the trouble to find one
Here is a review I posted on Amazon about my terrible experience with Skinomi that I wanted to share.
I purchased this protection kit after reading through many reviews, and looking around for something simple that also protects my device from scratches. Little did I know what was going to happen after installing the screen protector.
The rear panels have a texture to the 3M film that gives you a little better grip than the aluminum of the G Pad, and the installation instructions are not great, but a few videos on their youtube page will help out with this.
The problems started when I installed the screen protector as directed in the instructions both on their webpage and youtube page. I powered the device off and cleaned it as stated (you obviously can't remove the battery on the device and this is an optional step) then I proceeded to lightly spray the solution onto the film and screen after washing my hands and installed it. I used a plastic card along with a microfiber cloth to squeegee out the bubbles and liquid as directed. The only problem was that the LG G Pad got the liquid inside of it because my device would no longer power on (the screen would just flicker and it would shut off) I charged it and tried to boot the device to no avail. Keep in mind I did not douse the device in the spray, I used the amount that was stated I.E. lightly spray as is shown in the video.
I also did not get any liquid near the SD card slot, charging port or headphone jack (these are the only openings on the devices besides the back speakers. I am to say the least extremely upset that my brand new tablet was destroyed by the product that was bound to protect it. I am not new to screen protectors, let alone wet application ones. I have owned many over the years from the Zagg ones to a tempered glass protector and everything in between. This product cleary is at fault for their process involved, and I would not recommend it to anyone!
I contacted customer support via a phone call and I was told that its not their responsibility and there is a disclaimer on the box and inside. I looked high and low and could not locate the "disclaimer". I even took pictures and emailed it to them. I was met with a rude representative (4 actually) who constantly spoke over what I was saying, jumped to conclusions and otherwise were unhelpful. When I requested a supervisor I was told that all of them are in a meeting. I asked when the meeting would be over (but no one knew) clearly the representatives didn't want to address the actual issue. I am disgusted by the lack of support and the blatant disrespect that the company has shown toward its customers. I will be pursuing a solution through whatever means possible and spreading the word of their terrible products and practices. I wanted to share this story so others do not fall to the same fate or have their devices become inoperable due to a faulty product and a terrible company.
EDIT: Mods can you please move this over the the accessories section. I accidentally posted it in the wrong section. Thank you
Update: I tried to call them back to speak with a supervisor but they blocked my cell number. When I call it says "the number can not be reached from your area code" this is a terrible company that blacklists any customers who call them out. I called from another phone at it went through.
I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience, I personally don't use screen protectors anymore. Gorilla glass and its competitors have become so good that as long as I don't keep my device in the same pocket with my keys everything is fine, and it looks much much better than with a screen protector that will always be scratched and have bubbles, it also feels much less smooth.
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I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience, I personally don't use screen protectors anymore. Gorilla glass and its competitors have become so good that as long as I don't keep my device in the same pocket with my keys everything is fine, and it looks much much better than with a screen protector that will always be scratched and have bubbles, it also feels much less smooth.
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I feel the same way, I have a tempered glass on my Note 3 and I really like the feel of just glass. I use the G pad for my text books so I don't have to carry around 1000 page engineering books all day at school. I usually use one because I don't want to completely destroy the tablet with all f the constant moving around in my backpack. Thankfully I had a warrantee through SquareTrade which will cover the damages, but I still feel that other people should know.
I really like my G Pad and I wish that I did further research about the Skinomi protectors and wet application for the G pad so I could have avoided this. Hopefully if it can't be fixed I will have another one in a week or two, but I would be much more upset if I didn't have coverage for this. I am really meticulous when I apply these things so I am just disappointed that the G pad isn't sealed well and the fluid (soapy solution provided) is "very thin" in terms of its viscosity so it just goes into the tiniest of crevices. I might just throw my new one back into its TPU case and get a sleeve for it even though my backpack has a padded felt like pouch to prevent damaging the screen. The carbon back panels were really nice and not hard to install ones you figured out how to do the corners, but I will never use another wet application protector on a non water proof device.
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I feel the same way, I have a tempered glass on my Note 3 and I really like the feel of just glass. I use the G pad for my text books so I don't have to carry around 1000 page engineering books all day at school. I usually use one because I don't want to completely destroy the tablet with all f the constant moving around in my backpack. Thankfully I had a warrantee through SquareTrade which will cover the damages, but I still feel that other people should know.
I really like my G Pad and I wish that I did further research about the Skinomi protectors and wet application for the G pad so I could have avoided this. Hopefully if it can't be fixed I will have another one in a week or two, but I would be much more upset if I didn't have coverage for this. I am really meticulous when I apply these things so I am just disappointed that the G pad isn't sealed well and the fluid (soapy solution provided) is "very thin" in terms of its viscosity so it just goes into the tiniest of crevices. I might just throw my new one back into its TPU case and get a sleeve for it even though my backpack has a padded felt like pouch to prevent damaging the screen. The carbon back panels were really nice and not hard to install ones you figured out how to do the corners, but I will never use another wet application protector on a non water proof device.
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I recall one of the guys on here had the same problem with another wet application screen protector. At the time it swayed me to buy a dry application Protector, but I've never been over the moon about it.
My youngest scratched it an hour after fitting when she drew across the screen with a kids pencil, which was shocking as kids pencils are so soft.
I bought a zagg in the sale last week and got it yesterday. You've made me nervous now.
Hope you get this sorted,
All the best rich
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I recall one of the guys on here had the same problem with another wet application screen protector. At the time it swayed me to buy a dry application Protector, but I've never been over the moon about it.
My youngest scratched it an hour after fitting when she drew across the screen with a kids pencil, which was shocking as kids pencils are so soft.
I bought a zagg in the sale last week and got it yesterday. You've made me nervous now.
Hope you get this sorted,
All the best rich
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I did get a refund for the protector (obviously since it broke my G Pad) and Amazon wasn't too happy with the way that Skinomi handled the situation. I can't call their number since I'm they blocked it, and their email response to me was "sorry we can't help you" and that was all.
Their customer service is on par with that of Comcast who time and time again have been rated as the worst company for customer service. Amazon told me to file a complaint against them so it can be investigated and if necessary they will take action. I am still shocked at how rude the representatives were, if you asked a question the rep would cut you off mid sentence with an answer to something that wasn't completely asked yet. Then if you ask then to please stop, the rep will say you are uncooperative and hang up or transfer you to another equally rude person. Also when I inquired as to why I couldn't speak to any supervisor I was met with a sarcastic/childish response. I always strive to be as polite as possible, but when you are constantly rude to a customer and belittle them, its understandable that I would be upset. (in their eyes if you weren't whispering you were yelling at them and it was "unprofessional")
I will definitely be taking my business elsewhere, but I wanted to get the word out about their lack of customer service and support for their own products. Especially when in my box there are no disclaimers (which were 'supposed to be in there'). I'm not blind, or dumb, but apparently I need to be able to read the invisible words on the box.
Lets hope that either the company changes for the better or people stop supporting them if this is how they act.
Shocking behaviour,
Hopefully Amazon will investigate, so it's definitely worth pursuing this.
I wouldn't be surprised, if they find in your favour, that they suspend or even ban Skinomi from their site.
I'm not sure how you would go about it but it would be great if this made it to the xda news /portal.
All the best rich
Ps I still haven't manned up and installed the zagg
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sorry to hear that happen to you. wow that crazy how it got in your screen because i just installed a skinomi screen protector that i won on there facebook contest and i didn't get that problem. so do you know how did the liquid get in the screen because there is actually a gap on the screen between the plastic casing. best of luck to you.
Personally, I think that screen protectors are a waste of money and they degrade the use of the device. The real threat to these devices is a cracked screen, and screen protectors won't prevent that. Unless you wear sandpaper gloves or you're very careless, you're not likely to scratch these screens.
I went with a $10 armorsuit protector from Amazon that was a perfect fit and looks good.
I like that it makes the display a little more matte and provides a little resistance. I also hate hate hate scratches of any kind, so I never feel bad about going with a screen protector or replacing one if it gets messed up. It does absolutely stop a screen from getting cracked, but the only screen I've ever cracked was when I accidentally left it in a pocket and knelled down on it, so that's not my biggest fear.
First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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Do you keep your phone in your right or left pocket? I have started putting mine in my left pocket because of the steel brads on the watch pocket on most jeans and shorts. I got a scratch on my Note 2 when I first got it.
Just wondering if this could be the cause.
Not sure which pocket or if i had coins or keys that scratch it, just letting peeps know the screen isnt as hard as glass
Factory reset it. Scratch will be gone
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First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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I drive a lifted Jeep Wrangler with 35" Mud Tires. I was talking to a friend and dropped my Note 4 out the window. It fell probably 3 feet and landed on Asphalt. The only damage to it was a booger on the top right corner of the metal band. And that's with no case at the time.
Just out of curiosity, is there official documentation of what kind of glass the Note 4 has? I've seen articles that claim it's Gorilla Glass 3, but the documentation at Samsung and AT&T doesn't mention that, as far as I can see.
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Not sure which pocket or if had coins or keys that scratch it, just letting peeps know the screen isn[']t as hard as glass
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I'm sorry about your scratch and I appreciate your warning. But for me, the lesson isn't to use a screen protector; I haven't done that for years and haven't scratched a screen in all that time. Instead, the lesson is to be careful about where the phone is put. I always reserve my front left pocket exclusively for the phone, and if I did otherwise I'd consider that an invitation for scratches.
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Just out of curiosity, is there official documentation of what kind of glass the Note 4 has? I've seen articles that claim it's Gorilla Glass 3, but the documentation at Samsung and AT&T doesn't mention that, as far as I can see.
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I'm sorry about your scratch and I appreciate your warning. But for me, the lesson isn't to use a screen protector; I haven't done that for years and haven't scratched a screen in all that time. Instead, the lesson is to be careful about where the phone is put. I always reserve my front left pocket exclusively for the phone, and if I did otherwise I'd consider that an invitation for scratches.
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Yep, right front pocket, all by itself. No change, keys, lighters or anything not paper or soft pretty much.
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Factory reset it. Scratch will be gone
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I tried this....Reporting that is DOES NOT fix the scratches...
I need to find a quick free scratch gone method. Help?
You should ALWAYS use a screen protector for your phone. No exceptions. It will eventually scratch and you will regret not having one on. You should also have it in a case, well at least a slim case.
This is a fragile $800 piece of equipment which you use everyday. All it takes is one careless misstep and you got a cracked screen or a dent in your brand new phone.
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I tried this....Reporting that is DOES NOT fix the scratches...
I need to find a quick free scratch gone method. Help?
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proctv1ty and morditz...i think you guys should get together in a rubber room and figure out how to get brain matter transference to work properly. Oh wait, I think that already occurred or just factory reset your brains.
For the first time since my first smartphone (original iphone) I didn't use a screen protector with the Note 3. The screen remained perfect. I highly doubt they used an inferior glass to the Note 3's. At the very least it should be the same pane except with the slight curve on the edge.
While I don't doubt your screen got scratched there must be an explanation beyond that of blaming the quality of the glass.
a single grain of sand will scratch the glass...
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proctv1ty and morditz...i think you guys should get together in a rubber room and figure out how to get brain matter transference to work properly. Oh wait, I think that already occurred or just factory reset your brains.
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I like your spelling of my name
How does one " Factory Reset" the Brain?
deeken said:
You should ALWAYS use a screen protector for your phone. No exceptions. It will eventually scratch and you will regret not having one on. You should also have it in a case, well at least a slim case.
This is a fragile $800 piece of equipment which you use everyday. All it takes is one careless misstep and you got a cracked screen or a dent in your brand new phone.
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I have to disagree. You never put a piece of film/plastic over a display, camera lens, etc. It will distort image output. I used to be a diehard screen protector proponent way back when I had my HTC EVO. I always used the most expensive kind. I remember having to change my protector one time and taking that thing off, there was a tremendous difference in screen quality. From that moment forward, I have never used another screen protector. I've owned every version of the Note and screen damage has between superficial to none. I dropped my Note 3 dozens of times on every surface imaginable, and there's only a half inch superficial scratch on the screen. Protectors are not necessary in this day and age. What's the point of having a qHD screen is you're going to diminish it's beauty with a screen protector??
use a protector, or not, its your phone and
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Just out of curiosity, is there official documentation of what kind of glass the Note 4 has? I've seen articles that claim it's Gorilla Glass 3, but the documentation at Samsung and AT&T doesn't mention that, as far as I can see.
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I'm sorry about your scratch and I appreciate your warning. But for me, the lesson isn't to use a screen protector; I haven't done that for years and haven't scratched a screen in all that time. Instead, the lesson is to be careful about where the phone is put. I always reserve my front left pocket exclusively for the phone, and if I did otherwise I'd consider that an invitation for scratches.
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I do the same thing with my left pocket and don't use screen protectors either!
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Dr. Evo said:
I have to disagree. You never put a piece of film/plastic over a display, camera lens, etc. It will distort image output. I used to be a diehard screen protector proponent way back when I had my HTC EVO. I always used the most expensive kind. I remember having to change my protector one time and taking that thing off, there was a tremendous difference in screen quality. From that moment forward, I have never used another screen protector. I've owned every version of the Note and screen damage has between superficial to none. I dropped my Note 3 dozens of times on every surface imaginable, and there's only a half inch superficial scratch on the screen. Protectors are not necessary in this day and age. What's the point of having a qHD screen is you're going to diminish it's beauty with a screen protector??
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I agree
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deeken said:
You should ALWAYS use a screen protector for your phone. No exceptions. It will eventually scratch and you will regret not having one on. You should also have it in a case, well at least a slim case.
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You're mistaken. There are plenty of exceptions, for people who are careful enough with their phones. I've never used a case and never broken a phone, and for the last several phones I've had, I've never used screen protectors and never gotten even the slightest scratch or blemish on my screen.
Yes, I'm sure I'll end up damaging a phone once every 15 or 20 years. But if I divide that expense over the number of years involved, it will come to less cost and inconvenience than if I'd bought cases and screen screen protectors all along.
I wonder if I'm the first person to Crack their screen. 2ft drop to tile floor. I've never broken a phone before. Funny thing is my case is supposed to be here today.
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Astom22 said:
Do you keep your phone in your right or left pocket? I have started putting mine in my left pocket because of the steel brads on the watch pocket on most jeans and shorts. I got a scratch on my Note 2 when I first got it.
Just wondering if this could be the cause.
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Never thought about that "watch" pocket on jeans. Maybe I'll switch the phone to the left pocket and keys and such go in the right.
Although, as mentioned above I've dropped this Note 4 out of a Jeep window and had no scratches. I've also dropped it in the Jeep and had it slide between the console, under the seat and rattle around until I could stop and dig it out. Still, no scratches.
abacus0101 said:
First off, I've tried to be careful with the screen. I don't like screen protectors, but i guess now i'll have to get one. Im not even sure this screen is real glass, more like some sort of plastic composite if you ask me. I've come from the HTC One M7 and had it for over a year and a half and never had any problems with screen scratches. This just a few days and there is a noticeable scratch. Thankfully when the screen is on I don't see it. I've look at methods to remove scratches but doubt any will work on this. Only option screen protector. Just letting those of you that don't use one, you will end up with surface scratches on this device.
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2 things I get immediately for a new device: a good case & a screen protector- preferably a glass one.
I’ve got a full SGFresh InvisShield Dome Glass Kit with extra loca and UV light. I’ll literally give it to you I just don’t want to pay for shipping.
Anyone who wants it let me .
Mods, this isn’t a sale post. Literally giving this away to whoever wants it first and will cover the cost of having it shipped to them.
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Where are you located?
If in the USA I'll take it. Pending shipping cost
Screen protector has been spoken for
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Screen protector has been spoken for
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If it doesn't go through, I'm in, just PM me. Why don't you want it? Just curious.
Pictures
Can you post pictures with the screen protector. They any good
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They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
PuffDaddy_d said:
They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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I was impressed w/ it on my wife's v30... no halo or anything. I think I will pick one up for my 3 xl as well
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They're on sale for 50% of right now. I might get one for my pixel 3 instead of waiting for Whitestone Dome
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on amazon? i wanna pick another one up for the regular 3
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on amazon? i wanna pick another one up for the regular 3
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Directly from the manufacturer website
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Can you elaborate on the ceramic coating?
Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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I would also like to know more about the ceramic coating
Pure+ said:
For those asking: I didn't need/want it because I put a ceramic coating on my phone. Don't have any idea what it looks like as I never even bothered to open it. I've seen good able bad reviews but that's the case with most products so it's hard to speak to the quality. For the price it seemed like a good deal and someone certainly got a good deal on it having to only pay shipping.
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Quality is pretty solid. It covers the entire face of the phone (including the notch) with cutouts for both speakers and the proximity sensor (glass covers both selfie cameras). Does not have an alignment kit like Whitestone so definitely take your time applying it. The only nag I have about it is that it has a dot matrix for some reason...almost like it was supposed to be an edge adhesive screen protector but they decided not to put adhesive on it and just sell it with LOCA. Also worth noting, their "oleophobic nano coating" wipe will leave the glass looking a little hazy after you wipe it on. Be sure to buff/polish it after to make it smooth and shiny again. Personally, the dot matrix bugs me enough (more apparent when the screen is white) to be getting Whitestone Dome when/if it comes out for our phone. Otherwise, the most solid TGSP I've tried for the Pixel 3 XL
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Quality is pretty solid. It covers the entire face of the phone (including the notch) with cutouts for both speakers and the proximity sensor (glass covers both selfie cameras). Does not have an alignment kit like Whitestone so definitely take your time applying it. The only nag I have about it is that it has a dot matrix for some reason...almost like it was supposed to be an edge adhesive screen protector but they decided not to put adhesive on it and just sell it with LOCA. Also worth noting, their "oleophobic nano coating" wipe will leave the glass looking a little hazy after you wipe it on. Be sure to buff/polish it after to make it smooth and shiny again. Personally, the dot matrix bugs me enough (more apparent when the screen is white) to be getting Whitestone Dome when/if it comes out for our phone. Otherwise, the most solid TGSP I've tried for the Pixel 3 XL
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Thank you so much for this review. The dot matrix is an absolute deal breaker for me. I tried to use a screen protector with a dot matrix before and just couldn't un-see all of those dots!
PuffDaddy_d said:
Thank you so much for this review. The dot matrix is an absolute deal breaker for me. I tried to use a screen protector with a dot matrix before and just couldn't un-see all of those dots!
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Once the loca is applied you barely notice it. But when the screen turns all white it almost looks like there's glitter on the screen. You really kind of have to look for it. My guess is that it's similar to how loca is really good at hiding existing scratches and scuffs that your screen may already have. Wish I had another phone to snap a picture of it...
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kos26 said:
Can you elaborate on the ceramic coating?
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kellybrf said:
I would also like to know more about the ceramic coating
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Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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thanks, where would one go about getting this done?
Pure+ said:
Sorry guys, I've been so swamped recently I forgot xda existed. Basically it's a product commonly used to protected the paint on cars. I used to be in the detail industry and learned all the ins and the outs of the process and after struggling with all the rather poor screen protectors available for our phone figured I might as well not use one at all.
So here goes...
Essentially ceramic coating is a process in which a liquid topical solution is applied to the intended surface and transfers a coating at the nanometer level to said surface. The liquid solution "flashes" over in roughly 1 minute but also as quickly as 10 to 15 seconds. At that point the coating is buffed with a microfiber which picks up all the excess solution and leaves behind a 100% invisible coating. I mean it's literally as if nothing is there, however I can assure you that there is. Anyway at that point your pretty much finished, however it will continue to cure over the next 24 to 72 hours. In my case I simply let my pixel set for 3 days as I don't use it daily. After that you have about the absolute toughest coating possible on your screen short of having a tgsp installed. I think I did this about 2 to 3 weeks ago now and with near daily use it's still help up perfectly. Haven't gotten a single microscratch or microswirling on my phone and the screen is still glassy smooth and fingers glide with extreme ease along the surface of my phone. I'm honestly stunned with how well it's worked. I know it's a game changer when applied to car paint but I didn't have particularly high expectations for my phone. I'll probably continue this with all future devices as well, no point to get a tgsp at this point
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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Would be pretty hard to scratch as it is a 8 on the mohs scale of hardness. It essentially is as tough as Sapphire! I have a zodiac watch that's 10+ years old now and I've taken it with me to many places and it's been roughed up some and the glass is still pristine not a single mark on it. My main concern is would it wear off over time, if that is the case you would need to know when to reapply. Edit: found info on a website "A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months."
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Thanks! So if/when it does get scratched, how would you remove and reapply?
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If it somehow managed to get scratched it'll just be scratched. Not much to be done about it. However you can reapply any time. I have a coating rated for 5 years on a car, and that's something being exposed to constant uv from the sun and all the elements of weather. I expect that I'll never have to reapply to my phone.
kellybrf said:
thanks, where would one go about getting this done?
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Call some high end car detailers and ask around.
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Would be pretty hard to scratch as it is a 8 on the mohs scale of hardness. It essentially is as tough as Sapphire! I have a zodiac watch that's 10+ years old now and I've taken it with me to many places and it's been roughed up some and the glass is still pristine not a single mark on it. My main concern is would it wear off over time, if that is the case you would need to know when to reapply. Edit: found info on a website "A Ceramic Coating is not a substitute for Paint Protection Film, which provides a more comprehensive for of defensive. Rather, it is a premium wax alternative. A Ceramic Coating creates a permanent or semi-permanent bond with a vehicle’s paint, meaning that it does not wash away or break down and does not require repeated application every few months."
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It's extremely hard to scratch. I've taken knives to coated paint before and couldn't get a mark on it
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