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I pre-ordered the note 7 but as that is discontinued I am considering this until the s8 edge or whatever comes out around March.
What are the pros and cons with this phone? Currently using an iPhone 6s Plus
The main noticeable negative for me is the camera performance in low light when compared to the galaxy S7 or the Nexus 6P/5X or Google pixel(/XL)
If you liked the note 7 and didn't mind the price, you should consider the Google pixel XL
It is a great phone for specs and looking. my only issue with the phone is the battery
I have uses Note 7 for a week and though Note 7 has gorgeous screen and wonderful camera...OP 3 beats in terms of performance...if screen and camera are your main concerns...go for S7 Edge..I personally dont like Pixel either..happy with OP 3 until I get Note 8...battery life has been very good for me...
Cons for me are real camera, Speaker and usb type c port as it's only 2.0, 3.0 would of been nice :good:
But I have a S7 Edge and only ever had flagships so maybe I set my expectations a little too high rest of the phone is awesome though plus the price
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It is a great phone for specs and looking. my only issue with the phone is the battery
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How bad the battery is?
Bad battery life?
It' s 27 hours since I charged my op3. With 8 hours and 12 min SOT I have 20% battery left...
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Bad battery life?
It' s 27 hours since I charged my op3. With 8 hours and 12 min SOT I have 20% battery left...
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This seems to be exceptional battery life....I usually get 5-6 hrs..my network is very bad though
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I pre-ordered the note 7 but as that is discontinued I am considering this until the s8 edge or whatever comes out around March.
What are the pros and cons with this phone? Currently using an iPhone 6s Plus
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I recently bought a oneplus 3 after my iPhone 6s was stolen????. Compared to the iPhone it's easier to handle with one hand. I love to notification slider as a use it all the time. Oxygen os skin is light zippy and fast. Display is very bright (I use the SRGB mode), single speaker at the bottom is a lot louder than you would think. The battery lasts all day but I normally got a day and a half with the 6 plus.
Cons include camera, oleophobic coating and rubber lining of the headphone jack, single led and expensive proprietary charging accessories
I actually passed 10 hours SOT before my op3 shutdown.
Of course it was light usage mainly WIFI browsing and a little lte music streaming through bt. I had wifi, LTE and bt enabled all 30 hours. The last 15 % was with energy saver enabled.
battery is not as good as the note 7 and as stated camera is weak. other thing that I've found annoying is inability to pick up cases locally. even o2. waiting for ebay deliveries now. it'll do until the next samsung model with pen is available .
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Sure it has a slower processor, but my question is will it really be intolerable ?
Is there any Android app anywhere that will not run on the device because of the slow processor ?
I like owning a Pixel device, I had a Pixel XL and to get the major updates first and have pure Android experience is sweet.
Sure Oneplus 7, but really ..... I expect it to cost over $1000.00 Canadian
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Sure it has a slower processor, but my question is will it really be intolerable ?
Is there any Android app anywhere that will not run on the device because of the slow processor ?
I like owning a Pixel device, I had a Pixel XL and to get the major updates first and have pure Android experience is sweet.
Sure Oneplus 7, but really ..... I expect it to cost over $1000.00 Canadian
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I just picked up the 3a XL to run the Q beta and even on beta software (so far) the performance is not bad at all. Sure it has a slower less powerful processor but in reality how often do you really use the Pixel 3's processor to it's full potential? I think for an everyday phone running internet, messaging, phone, and some light game apps it will be just fine.
I mean, the processor is basically on par with the pixel 2, so it will be an upgrade from the og pixel.. I've got the 2 xl now and haven't had any issues with speed
I saw a video last night of someone comparing the 3 to 3a and there was definitely a speed difference in launching apps. However, in day to day usage, I don't think it's very noticeable at all. I just set my 3a XL up on the Q beta and it's running just fine. I don't do much gaming on my phone so I can't speak to that piece.
I don't know from where you guys get your speed reference, but coming from android one; mi a1, nokia 6.1, mi a2 this phone is wiping the floor with them. After the nexi got canceled I didn't go for the pixel line because of principle and ethics. Although I hope google will handle the budget category better than those mentioned above, since they all were ok out of the box and set up, the frustrating slowdowns and more bugs introduced than fixed came each month one after another.
From this youtube video, the guy himself is a power user, he didn't notice any performance issues. He highly recommends the Pixel 3A XL
link - search "Hands-On: Google Pixel 3a XL has been my daily driver for 6 weeks" on YT
2 days with my 3a xl and I ain't seen one hint of lag. I am on 11 percent battery and am just minutes away from hitting 10 hours SOT. I have nothing but good things to say about this phone. Massively recommended
I haven't had an issue running all my app, streaming video apps, and games on my 3a xl. There is an occasional delay on games that ran butter smooth on a 845 processor but it's nothing that would make me want to get rid of the phone. The screen isn't as good as a flagship of course but it's nowhere near what a phone of this price would be. I'm still in shock how well the phone runs for the price and I've owned nothing but flagships in the past.
I haven't regretted getting mine. I use it as my daily and I dont really notice the speed difference. It is like micro seconds slower,,,nothing that you wouldn't notice unless your really looking for it. Having all the other features and that camera makes up for it at this price point. Plus, I put a wireless charging receiver on it for 9 bucks and I have wireless charging back. Its not ultra fast charging but it charges the whole phone in about hour and a half.
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2 days with my 3a xl and I ain't seen one hint of lag. I am on 11 percent battery and am just minutes away from hitting 10 hours SOT. I have nothing but good things to say about this phone. Massively recommended
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This. This right here is why I just bought one yesterday. I wanted a pixel 3 xl, but could not fathom having to charge every few hours or having it die on me when travelling. The Oneplus 7 was my first choice but I'm sure even the regular one will be priced higher than the Pixel. I got a $100 gift card plus $50 cashback, so all things accounted, I paid around $380 for the 3a XL, and that is a bargain, no mater how you look at it. I have a Note 9 that will now be my backup phone. Noting wrong with it. I just want proper and fast updates, a good camera, and dependable battery and it seems Samsung will never catch up on the software side. So far the 3a XL is performing more than adecuately for my needs. I never play games or do cpu intensive tasks on my phone so this will be just fine.
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I just picked up the 3a XL to run the Q beta and even on beta software (so far) the performance is not bad at all. Sure it has a slower less powerful processor but in reality how often do you really use the Pixel 3's processor to it's full potential? I think for an everyday phone running internet, messaging, phone, and some light game apps it will be just fine.
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It can run PUBG just fine... Take that however you will
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I mean, the processor is basically on par with the pixel 2, so it will be an upgrade from the og pixel..
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I believe the SD670 SoC in the Pixel 3a is closer to the SD821, which was featured in the 1st gen Pixel. Nobody should be put off by that fact at all. The Phone is fast and buttery smooth with some of the best battery life I have ever seen. The 3a XL's battery life could almost trade blows with some of the 5000mah monster phones out there. Like the Huawei Mate 20X for example.
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I believe the SD670 SoC in the Pixel 3a is closer to the SD821, which was featured in the 1st gen Pixel. Nobody should be put off by that fact at all. The Phone is fast and buttery smooth with some of the best battery life I have ever seen. The 3a XL's battery life could almost trade blows with some of the 5000mah monster phones out there. Like the Huawei Mate 20X for example.
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The SD 670 is pretty comparable to the SD 835 from the Pixel 2 line. The CPU numbers may be slower but they use the newer silver and gold kryo cores. Plus a newer GPU.
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It's on par with the pixel 2
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I've just received the pixel 3a xl , and straight away will probably be sending it back ,
I have come from a 2 xl and the 2xl imho is the better phone,
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I've just received the pixel 3a xl , and straight away will probably be sending it back ,
I have come from a 2 xl and the 2xl imho is the better phone,
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interesting, i'm in the market for a phone. The 2xl 128gb is only £370 GBP compared to the 3a XL which is £469.
What do you prefer about the 2xl?
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interesting, i'm in the market for a phone. The 2xl 128gb is only £370 GBP compared to the 3a XL which is £469.
What do you prefer about the 2xl?
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Not who you were asking but I came from a 2 XL. The 2 XL does perform better. It's snappier and sometimes the 3a XL stutters. Other than that, I would say the speakers on the 2 XL are better (the 3a isn't bad though) and the metal/glass combo of the 2 XL feels better in the hand. The screen on the 2 XL is also brighter at Max but overall the display is much better in the 3a.
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I prefer the width of the 2xl , slightly shorter too.
I also have started using day dream which the 3a xl doesn't support.
I did a test earlier of blasting portraits one after the other and the 2xl takes 5 in quick succession and the 3a xl takes 4 shots.
Again the 2xl processes much faster and I'm take other shots within a few seconds.
A must for family photography.
The 3a xl has amazing battery life,
Gestures on pie using fluid are sluggish on the 3a xl but this might change with Android q.
Cameras are identical in my testing,
Yeah, you notice the weaker processing in the camera app, especially night shots. I wouldn't call it an impediment to getting pictures of fast moving grand kids but that's my own opinion, I think some would consider it an issue in the same way you do. I personally find it interesting that some are saying the performance is largely the same as compared to acurrent flagship, I don't see that. I'm usually not the type that joins in on microstutters and all that sort stuff because current flagships seem to me to be fluid in use all, or nearly all, the time. I don't see that here, I most def see apps hitching up while loading, I see a camera which is slower, even the main menu will stutter when it opens and does so out of the box.
In context though the current introductory pricing is not likely to go away. As we get closer to the Pix 4 the flagship 3's will drop in price which if anything will push these down further. Today I read those have a 200 dollar reduction in price (for the time being) which still makes them twice as expensive. At 370 and 300 I think these things are compelling buys.. You get flagship camera quality, those nice little Pixel software touches, decent screens, the performance isn't what I would describe as bad even if I don't feel it offers a flagship grade of smooth. Life could be a lot worse for those that can't or don't want to muster up flagship ching.
Honestly I would consider a 2xl ,better built than the 3 imo
The notch is hideous,
I believe a the reviewers are being positive as Google actually gave them the pixel and not loaned them like usual.
I'm not knocking the 3a at all just I believe the 2xl if you can refurbed or even new at some places would be the better buy.
I've seen them online for around £180 if you look around
It seems clear now that once again the Exynos version is inferior this year and as I understand it the known disadvantages are as follows:
Inferior real world performance (actually is capable of better but suffers with thermals)
Power management
Different (worse) camera module in the Exynos vs. the SD
I'm guessing that most positive comments are from snapdragon users so for those with an Exynos, how are you feeling? and better still does anybody out there have both versions?
I have the S20+ and have been a little disappointed, the camera has been pretty average (only just got April update so not tested that yet) and I have noticed that the phone gets quite warm quite quickly, being in lockdown the battery has not jumped out yet as I am never more than one room away from a charger.
Thoughts??
S20 exynos user here and I'm fine with it...
I don't game which helps of course, but get decent battery life (idle drain 0.5-0.7%/hr and when using the phone a lot I get around 6 hrs SOT, actually 6:13 atm and 15% left). Pictures are fine as well, coming from an S10+ they are sharper overall but exposure can be a bit tricky every now and then. I hope and think things will improve in future updates.
Thing is I really prefer the smaller sized phones, I mean the OP8 and P40's also look great but they are simply too big for me. The S10+ was already on the edge, can work with it but less then optimally comfortable.
Would I have rather had the SD version? Yeah
Is the exynos a reason for me to return? No
I have paid about 630 euros for it though, had I paid full price I might have judged differently and indeed returned it.
I did optimize things (96hz refresh rate, disabled some apps I don't need/use, etc) so that might have helped with battery life. No custom roms or anything though so no warranty issues.
Having S20 Exynos.
Very disappointed with S20 after a 3 weeks of use.
Very bad battery performance. looks like I have started to control my ph usage looking at the battery no's declining. hahhahaha very very funny.
phone heats up with min usage( not sure is it cause of summer or exynos. hahaha).But this is true in my case even in indoor usage.
Just few min of use can see temp raise to 37+. If use camera for more than 5 min or so. it goes above 40 & refresh rate drops to 60.
I really don’t understand what Samsung trying to do here. impose on users, who have paid hefty money for their products.
It’s been more than a month. yet we still have to go thru these. Even after their multiple updates
camera not really to Samsung mark to be (compare to previous models.no major improvements).
Only thing which makes me to use over note 10+ is 120hz. Rest not worth the price.
I don’t say the phone is bad, but not worth the upgrade for the price.
At the core I guess Samsung is aware they have screw up the S20 series using exynos.
Hope with Note 20 they will make it up to retain their fans with SD processor. If this is not going happen, then for sure ill also be one of them to say goodbye.
*very BAD*
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*very BAD*
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ideal phone will be pixel 4XL with 5000mAh battery , oh maybe it can be a little biger as s20 ultra - ideal phone to me .
buy yourself the one 8pro and you will be better off - wish id done that but rushed into the samsung phones not knowingly how **** they are this year
Thanks all.
It is strange but OnePlus's stance on the Always on Display has always really irritated me, not just that they have still not added one but mostly how they have apparently been 'working on it' like forever. It is a feature I like, not a reason to buy or not buy a phone but when all others offer it it does tip the balance. The P40 is amazing and the whole google thing is really frustrating.
I also agree that the Pixel 4 XL is REALLY close to being the best overall droid out there, slightly nicer design, brighter screen and a higher storage option and it would be IMO. On the flip side though the S20 is also REALLY close too.
Out of interest what is the best way to monitor the battery temperature in real time? I'd kind of like to test that.
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Out of interest what is the best way to monitor the battery temperature in real time? I'd kind of like to test that.
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I've used Battery Widget Reborn since my HTC Desire days, it has a widget that can be configured for battery temp.
Just put it on the screen next to Accubattery now ...
Reading alot about exynos version battery life. I have s20+ exynos 4G model. I had note 9 and I felt it had good battery life. Then I got s10+ and the battery anxiety was completely gone. And from s10+ to s20+, I feel battery life is almost the same as my s10+, on 120 hz. I dont disable anything. Using completely stock. No issues what so ever. I get 5 to 6 hrs of battery life if I use the full cycle and standby 16 to 18 hours, with 20% or so remaining.
I tend to stick to 40 to 85% cycle. Developed this habit when I had s10+ since the battery anxiety was gone. I charge twice a day, once in the morning to 85% and once in late afternoon or evening (when it hits around 40%). Not more than 25 to 30 mins each (25W charger works well). So, an hour of charging works for me easily. I think since I have the 4G model I am not getting problems most ppl are.
Also, I don't play games except for one, 2048. Two gmail, two facebook and messenger, two whatsapp, Twitter, snapchat, Instagram. All the office apps.
Camera is better than my s10+. The pictures are sharp and I am very happy with it.
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HI EVERYONE
I'M THE CREATOR OF NUMEROUS POSTS OF ROG PHONE 2 . AFTER ALMOST TWO YEARS I REALIZE THAT THIS PHONE IS THE BEST FOR MY NEEDS . I'VE TESTED MORE THAN 50 SMARtPHONES EVEN MI 10 PRO AND THEY AMAZING JBL SPEAKERS( THIS IS THE LATEST I HAD) BUT BATTERY IS NOT AS GOOD AS ROG , SPEAKERS AREN'T VERY LOUD BUT GOOD QUALITY AND BASSES.... BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ROG WHY IS BETTER
- IT HAS VERY SOLID BUILD QUALITY. GORILLA GLASS 6 , GLASS AND METAL COMBO, 7000 SERIES ALUMINIUM( ROG PHONE 5 IS WELL COSTRUCTED BUT IT BEND MORE EASILY THAN IPHONE 6 PLUS AND IT'S UNACCETABLE FOR 899$ PHONE.
-FIRST ROG WITH 6000MAH BATTERY THAT CAN LAST UP TO 2 DAYS, EVEN 3 WITH 60 HZ AND DARK THEME!
-IT HAS 3.5MM JACK WITH EXCELLENT QUALITY AND EQ (I REALLY MISS ON ROG PHONE 3 AND MOST HIGH END SMARTPHONES)
-IT HAS PROBABLY THE LOUDEST SPEAKERS I' VE EVER HEARD WITH VERY GOOD QUALITY AND CLARITY+ OUDOOR MODE THAT BOAST TREBLE ( ROG 3 DOESN'T HAVE THIS AND ALSO QUIETER SPEAKERS WITH SIMULATED BASSES)
-IT HAS 2 STRONGER VIBEATOR MOTORS ( MOST PHONE INCLUDED ROG 3 HAS ONLY 1)
-4 WIFI ANTENNAS, 4 MICROPHONES
-FIRST 10BIT OLED HDR 120 HZ, 240HZ SAMPLING RATE DISPLAY WITH VERY GOOD DELTA ( QHD IS NOT NECESSARY UNLESS YOU USE VR, AND IT CONSUME MORE BATTERY AND LOWER THE FPS) 90HZ IS THE STANDARD BASE FOR 2020, FROM 60 YOU WILL NOTICE A DIFFERENCE. 120 IS RECCOMEDED , 144 IS ONLY FOR EXTREME GAMING AND DRAIN A LOT. BUT UI,SOCIAL,GAMES BEST IS 120 FOR EYES
-RGB LOGO. THIS IS COOL FOR NOTIFICATION, DURING NIGHT , IT'S A DISTINGUISHABLE SPEC THAT PEOPLE WILL NOTICE.
-18W CHARGING WILL DEGRADE BATTERY LOWER THAN FAST CHARGER LIKE 65W OR 120 AND MY TIP IS TO CHARGE UP TO 80%. THIS PHONE ALSO SUPPORT 30W. SINCE THE BATTERY IS 6000 MAH I RECCOMEND BOTH . BOTH ARE SAFE
-FIRST ROG WITH ALMOST STOCK ANDROID.ANDROID 9 IS LATEST ROM THAT SUPPORT ALSO GLTOOL ( FUTURE PROOF TOOL FOR GPU DRIVERS) AND ALSO ANDROID 9 HAS RW SISTEM. I RECCOMEND THIS ROM BECAUSE A10 IS NOT AS OPTIMIZED AS A9 AND IT' S HAS LOTS OF PERMISSION THAT MADE MODS, APPS NOT COMPATIBLE. BATTERY IS ALSO BETTER IN A9
-AIRTRIGGERS
-FAST UFS 3.0 STORAGE, LOTS OF RAM STORAGE, LAG FREE DEVICE. COSTANT PERFORMANCE
-2 PORTS. USB 3.1 AND 2.0 FOR CHARGING AND REVERSE CHARGING
-GOOD CAMERA EIS( WITH GCAM YOU WILL DO MUCH BETTER PHOTOS AND VERY STABLE 60FPS VIDEOS)
- VERY FAST 855+ PROCESSOR DON'T OVERHEAT AND BETTER TEMPS THAN LATEST 800 SERIES SOCs.
-BEST ROG EVER MADE FOR AESTETIC ( ORANGE ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND THE SPEAKERS, BACK COVER HAS METAL COLOR, MORE COLORFUL ACCENTS ON THE BACK AND MORE SQUARE CAMERAS AND FRAME, IT HAS MORE GAMING LOOK.
THE CONS THAT NOT AFFECT MY DECISION TO BUY AGAIN THIS PRODUCT:
-NO IP RATING, FOR NORMAL USE LIKE RAIN IS PROTECTED SINCE THERE IS NO DIRECT CONTACT TO MOTHERBOARD
-NO WIRELESS CHARGING, I DON'T NEED AND USE I PREFER 3.5 MM JACK THAN THIS..
-NO OIS FOR CAMERA , GCAM WILL FIX THIS WITH NIGHT MODE AND THEIR AMAZING SHOTS AND VIDEOS ( MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR A GAMING PHONE)
-NO DDR5 RAM OR LATEST SOC: 855 PLUS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SOC SINCE DOESN'T OVERHEAT A SINGLE DAY. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT THAN 865 OR 888. THESE OVERHEATS AS LOT OF REVIEWS. DDR4 RAM IS VERY GOOD IF YOU HAVE 8/12 GB ON A PHONE. NO DIFFERENCE IN REAL LIFE.
-NO 8K. NO NEED SINCE PANEL IS FULL HD AND YOU NEED 8K TV FOR SEE THE VIDEO RECORDED
-NO 5G. IT'S FASTER BUT DEPEND BY COUNTRY COVERAGE. THIS WILL DRAIN MORE BATTERY AND MAKE DEVICE HOT. FOR ME IS ENOUGH 4G+ SINCE IS MORE MATURE TECNOLOGY FOR MY NEEDS
-NO SD CARD( BUY 128 OR 512/1T STORAGE NO PROBLEM)
-WEIGHT( THIS IS VERY BALANCED ON ROG 2 TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THAT)
i bought again from giztop at very good price new for 459$ 8/128 gb is a lot for me and i SUGGEST as base in 2021 64gb at least, RECCOMENDED 128GB
i will modify some my post to get best possible user experience on this phone
thank you to all members to enjoy this forum
I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles
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I'm sure Asus should hire you to write marketing and promo articles
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Were thinking same
Are there xda awards for the most useless posts? I nominate yours.
Considering the dying PM 8150 chip state I would dare say it's literally impossible to argue that the rog2 is the best phone.
Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away
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Now, because of this post, i will search and buy ROG phone 2 right away
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eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post
dvijetrecine said:
eeeh, i wouldn't do it just because of this post
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quite sure he was being sarcastic
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quite sure he was being sarcastic
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i do hope that is the case, as OP is going a bit over the top
Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...
nguadien said:
Nice promotion, next time please include your optimal stock rom version.
Now I'm pondering to choose in dozens of different versions, Android 9 vs 10 vs 11...
Now, I have a vague understanding such at this:
Android 9 has best battery life but a lot of bugs, choose version carefully
Android 10 is worst
Android 11 has medium battery life, new features, a lot of incompatible apps that bring bugs like battery draining...
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Obviously my impressions with "latest updates" are very bad.
Every time an Android device update (or being forced to), battery life always downgrade or shortened, because phone providers want you to feel sluggish, slowed, outdated, inconvenient with your devices. Then you would want to buy newer models after 3 years.
My friends all used Oppo and Samsung. First stock roms always have best battery life and smoothest experience. Then things went down until 2-3 years later, when every devices become all laggy, jittery, battery hungry.
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Ok now I updated my experience so far for Android 11:
2201.211 rom: Cannot root, even if I installed Magisk 24.3 FIVE times - yes I tried so many times and ways to install root
2111.160 rom: Can root after installing Magisk 24.3.
- I then used Mantis Gamepad Pro to use PS5 controller. After 2 days it stopped recognizing inputs.
- Without Mantis Gamepad Pro, I can use PS5 controller but of course cannot map properly in-game
- Battery draining rate with Bluetooth is very fast (even when the only app opened is Mantis Gamepad Pro + Ebook reader), -80% battery in 3 hours
=> I'm back to 1910.35 for Android 9 - doubled battery saving, better performance, no Mantis Gamepad Pro bugs
Also, I need to update two bugs in Android 11:
+ It does not accept chargers from other brands, for me it's TWO different Samsung 18W charger (Android 9 accepted them normally).
+ It does not accept charging after being drained to 0%. I accidentally slept when reading ebook, making it drop from 50% to 0% during the night.
Next day, no matter what kind of charger (Oppo, Samsung, Asus), it flashed green charging circle for 0.5s then screen off. I had to charge using Asus charger for 1 hour to bring it to 1%, then held Power key to enter OS. Then it did NOT accept charging, I had to re-plug Asus charger again to make it recognize charging.
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You are reading old irrelevant posts. And your understanding is not accurate.
11 has battery life better than 10 and the same as 9. I'm not aware of a single incompatible app with 11.
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Android 11 has Accessibility bug that's not been fixed in any rom
Fake Camera app also cannot work on Android 11
Besides the better System UI and keyboard switching button - I cannot find a reason why Android 11 is better.
Android 9 consumes 5% per 30 min gameplay
Android 11 consumes 20% per 30min gameplay
This is a huge difference man.
However, Android 9 System UI would often stop working for 5-10s if I use older apps in 2018, which is a little annoying.
I have been using my galaxy s8 since late 2017 and am looking to upgrade to galaxy s22.
I purchased it in early may and ended up returning it due to poor battery life. My battery would get down to 30% before the end of business day.
Now, I have heard that samsung has released some software updates to the phone and it has fixed the battery drain.
Can people on here confirm it?
I have a new battery installed on my galaxy s8 and it is significantly better than what the s22 was doing in May.
The current generation of Snapdragon's appear to have big problems that firmware can't fix. At the least I would hold off on purchasing one until the dust settles.
I'm running 2 N10+'s. It's a substantial upgrade from the N9 or S8 in your case.
New factory sealedones can still be had. Used for $200-300 less but will likely be loaded with Android 11 not 10.
To give you prospective after a lot of research I blew off the N20U, S21U and the S22U for a new N10+ N975U1. The Beast is a well balanced workhouse with a superb form factor. It will need to be optimized but can easily get 10+ hrs SOT.
The build Q is excellent... and it has expandable storage.
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I have been using my galaxy s8 since late 2017 and am looking to upgrade to galaxy s22.
I purchased it in early may and ended up returning it due to poor battery life. My battery would get down to 30% before the end of business day.
Now, I have heard that samsung has released some software updates to the phone and it has fixed the battery drain.
Can people on here confirm it?
I have a new battery installed on my galaxy s8 and it is significantly better than what the s22 was doing in May.
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Take his advice with a grain of salt. He doesn't own an S22 of any kind.
The battery life is not that bad. You really can't compare it to the S8. It will depend on your use. I have the S22 Ultra and by the end of the work day I'm at around 30% after 8 hours of moderate use. My daughter has the S22 and she's a heavier user than I; she's gone all day on one charge. By the end of the day she's at around 20%.
Initial battery performance will not be great, but it will improve as the phone learns your usage patterns and starts optimizing its performance.
I feel that the S22 series phones are simply not as efficient as the older phones (probably due to 5G, higher refresh rate, and also it is doing more in the background). I notice that my older Note 8, S9, Note 10 all have much better battery usage doing background task than the S22.
Having said that, the S22 battery can last a day unless you are heavy use. It is true that it needs a little settling time like a week or two but once it settled in, it seems to have fairly consistent battery usage. I think if you were able to get a full day use with 30% left when you had your S22, then you are going to be fine here as the phone should last you a full day of use. I don't think the new software update would significantly improve the battery life for you. And I certainly don't think it will be able to provide as good battery life as the S8 that you had. This is simply based on my personal experience where older device seems to be more efficient with background tasks so the battery drains less when not actively use.
PUTALE said:
I feel that the S22 series phones are simply not as efficient as the older phones (probably due to 5G, higher refresh rate, and also it is doing more in the background). I notice that my older Note 8, S9, Note 10 all have much better battery usage doing background task than the S22.
Having said that, the S22 battery can last a day unless you are heavy use. It is true that it needs a little settling time like a week or two but once it settled in, it seems to have fairly consistent battery usage. I think if you were able to get a full day use with 30% left when you had your S22, then you are going to be fine here as the phone should last you a full day of use. I don't think the new software update would significantly improve the battery life for you. And I certainly don't think it will be able to provide as good battery life as the S8 that you had. This is simply based on my personal experience where older device seems to be more efficient with background tasks so the battery drains less when not actively use.
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There's a very noticeable speed performance jump from the N9 with the N10+. Much improved display. With 12gb of ram it can take heavy app loading with ease.
Unfortunately the liabilities of the newer models kill that balance. The performance increase is negligible; you pay dearly for those marginal improvements in terms of battery life and thermal load. I've posted in depth about this and why the N10+ remains my weapon of choice. It's not one or two factors alone but a balnce of form factor, display, usability, functionality, cpu power, memory, battery life, rock solid reliability and very low maintenance. If running on Android 10 or Pie, no cpu cycle sucking scoped storage while still patched against the worst "immortal" rootkits.
The 1.5gb dual drive handheld PC in my hand remains the pinnacle for the Samsung flagship poweruser.
Rubber biting the asphalt... instead of a lot smoking hype.
Samsung is capable of producing great flagships but all they been doing lately is dropping balls and looking like a fat Apple
I am looking for a phone with a small form factor. Pixel 5 come to mind, but its build quality and mid range CPU doesn't do it for me.
Not sure, what else is out there.
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I am looking for a phone with a small form factor. Pixel 5 come to mind, but its build quality and mid range CPU doesn't do it for me.
Not sure, what else is out there.
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The S22 is slightly bigger at 6.1" Keep in mind the bezels are smaller, which makes the S22's total size is not much bigger (0.10in longer) than the S8. Right now the "sweet spot" the OEMS are making is around 6" or so. That isn't going to change anytime soon.
S8:
Dimensions148.9 x 68.1 x 8 mm (5.86 x 2.68 x 0.31 in)Weight155 g (5.47 oz)
S22:
Dimensions146 x 70.6 x 7.6 mm (5.75 x 2.78 x 0.30 in)Weight167 g / 168 g (mmWave) (5.89 oz)
src: GSMArena
One big difference is Samsung went back to a flat screen for both the S22 and S22+ (that trend started with the S21 I believe). Also, the fingerprint reader is in the display and it works great. I had the S8+ and I think the fingerprint reader on the S22 family is better than the S8/Note 8 family.
The S8 is actually thicker than the S22. The S22 is a little heavier, but that is mostly due to a larger battery and larger display.
OneUI 4.1 is actually pretty good. My daughter likes that over Microsoft Launcher (which is what I use). Android 12 is pretty good too. Although some will argue that. DeX has also improved significantly. One of the reasons I got the S8+ (and later the Note 8) was the introduction of DeX. If you have a smart TV (especially a Samsung smart TV) or monitor, you can use your S22 almost like a desktop. All you need is a BT keyboard and mouse.
My daughter has the S22 256GB Snap Dragon (unlocked) version and she likes it a lot. And like I said, she goes all day on a charge.
Samsung did remove the microSD card reader, which I am still on the fence as to whether that was a good idea; although I have not, nor has my daughter, missed it.
Samsung Galaxy S8 - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
Samsung Galaxy S22 5G - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
If you do decide on the S22, I recommend the 256GB version.