I've just switched to the s21ultra because I couldn't do differenty....
In Italy now there are some excellent offers from Samsung:
- our beloved note10+ has a whopping 550€ payback!
- you'll also receive a free spen cover + spen
- a chromebook go
bye bye note
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Oh my... NO.
Say goodbye to your 1tb data drive, native spen, near perfect color rendering and Android 10... Android 11 is no gift.
Meh 2 months ago I delibrately bought a new N10+ 4G Snapdragon because of Samsung's and Android's 2021 fails.
Lol, a new N10+ was worth $800 to me...
my two N10+'s aren't for sale, swap or trade
New, factory sealed N10+'s/Android 10 are still available.
blackhawk said:
Oh my... NO.
Say goodbye to your 1tb data drive, native spen, near perfect color rendering and Android 10... Android 11 is no gift.
Meh 2 months ago I delibrately bought a new N10+ 4G Snapdragon because of Samsung's and Android's 2021 fails.
Lol, a new N10+ was worth $800 to me...
my two N10+'s aren't for sale, swap or trade
New, factory sealed N10+'s/Android 10 are still available.
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i'm a note lover too, the note10+ was my third note but it's now more than 2 years old.
of course it works well and always will but it's getting old and its value is now very low (at least here in Italy)
it's also out of production and impossible to find (even the note20 is out of stock and won't available any time soon)
even if you are happy with your note, one day or another you'll have to change it, it happened to me when i sold my note3 but if i didn't i wouldn't have never had my note10 some years later!
alessandro_xda said:
i'm a note lover too, the note10+ was my third note but it's now more than 2 years old.
of course it works well and always will but it's getting old and its value is now very low (at least here in Italy)
it's also out of production and impossible to find (even the note20 is out of stock and won't available any time soon)
even if you are happy with your note, one day or another you'll have to change it, it happened to me when i sold my note3 but if i didn't i wouldn't have never had my note10 some years later!
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The most recent N10+ was manufactured in December 2020, likely one of the last production runs.
My oldest one had it's battery replaced in 4.2021, it lasted less then 1.5 years. That's the only repair that's been needed. From now on I will likely replace the battery yearly to avoid a potentially phone damaging battery failure.
If you don't drop it or update it, keep display brightness at 50% or lower, it will easily run 2+ years with no issues. The current condition of the oldest one and the dismal 2021 offerings compelled me to buy a second 10+ to serve as a backup like for when doing battery replacements.
Updates break phones, malware breaks them only if you load it. The oldest 10+ is running on Pie and hasn't been updated in 2 years. Security is simply not an issue in real world use in spite of known vulnerabilities; I take some precautions due to this with settings. Current OS load is over 1.5 years old, fast and stable with minimum maintenance. That's another reason why I like this platform.
If your newer phone fulfills it's mission you do get some advantages. I wouldn't update to Android 12 until it's been out for a length of time to see how well it's doing.
The hardware gains and usability are offset somewhat by Android 11's pathetic scooped storage implementation, the issues with variable rate displays and 5G implementation. All are still problematic not just on Samsung's but all newest generation models.
Worse there's been higher numbers of display failures this year it seems.
Given how long it took me to optimize the N10+ and get it to it's current level of functionality is another reason I'm not willing to adapt the latest new technologies. Set up for the second N10+ was nearly identical to the first one. Even my package disabler list was able to be uploaded with only a few modifications. While the higher refresh rate be nice, I'm not willing to trade color rendering or low light level color rendering for it.
The 20U's faster response spen be nice but I have to suck up the cam hump, 5G and variable refresh issues to get it. On all other new flagship Samsung's I lose the indispensable SD card support. Issues with Android 11 would likely damage SD card functionality as well.
So rather than risk lose of functionality/usability and waste my time... the N10+ remains my weapon of choice.
It's a fast, dependable, stable work platform.
Went the other way around for me, from a S21 Ultra to a Note 10+ because the Ultra developed a fault which I couldn't get fixed due to rooting it.
Must say for the majority of things I see little to no difference, especially given there is somewhere to put the pen. Only things I really miss are the 120hz display, a slightly better battery life and the camera, which is far better than the Note's for reasons I don't need to go into. But whilst I realise the S21 Ultra is far faster, for day to day use I don't notice the difference. Certainly not to the point which makes the S21 Ultra worth the additional money you'd need to fork out.
Must say I'm liking the looks of the S22 Ultra though. But I swore I'd never get another Samsung after what happened with my S21 Ultra and them refusing a paid repair. I only got this Note because a friend was selling it cheap.
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Went the other way around for me, from a S21 Ultra to a Note 10+ because the Ultra developed a fault which I couldn't get fixed due to rooting it.
Must say for the majority of things I see little to no difference, especially given there is somewhere to put the pen. Only things I really miss are the 120hz display, a slightly better battery life and the camera, which is far better than the Note's for reasons I don't need to go into. But whilst I realise the S21 Ultra is far faster, for day to day use I don't notice the difference. Certainly not to the point which makes the S21 Ultra worth the additional money you'd need to fork out.
Must say I'm liking the looks of the S22 Ultra though. But I swore I'd never get another Samsung after what happened with my S21 Ultra and them refusing a paid repair. I only got this Note because a friend was selling it cheap.
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S22U turned out to be a turd for me. Had two, first one screen glitched and second one lower half of screen had that usual OLED green tint which I despise. Both devices ran hotter and battery life was meh, unless using 60Hz. I noticed the trend with poor efficiency and heat from the N20U thru to S22U.The later being the worst.
Guess what? I ordered a Note 10+ from Samsung USA . It'll be nice having the SD card back and also the S-Pen located on the correct side.
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S22U turned out to be a turd for me. Had two, first one screen glitched and second one lower half of screen had that usual OLED green tint which I despise. Both devices ran hotter and battery life was meh, unless using 60Hz. I noticed the trend with poor efficiency and heat from the N20U thru to S22U.The later being the worst.
Guess what? I ordered a Note 10+ from Samsung USA . It'll be nice having the SD card back and also the S-Pen located on the correct side.
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Yay and ouch. What gets it done best is all that counts...
Optimized the N975U is a cool running flagship that's only a fraction of a second slower than the S22U, and very noticeably faster as the ram fills up. The Beast is a running machine that's drop dead gorgeous... still. wtf Samsung?
This is typical battery usage on my degraded battery nearing replacement time. Estimated capacity is 3500-3800 mAh. It's running cool and is still snappy fast in the optimized power setting mode. No battery optimization or global power management in use.
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Yay and ouch. What gets it done best is all that counts...
Optimized the N975U is a cool running flagship that's only a fraction of a second slower than the S22U, and very noticeably faster as the ram fills up. The Beast is a running machine that's drop dead gorgeous... still. wtf Samsung?
This is typical battery usage on my degraded battery nearing replacement time. Estimated capacity is 3500-3800 mAh. It's running cool and is still snappy fast in the optimized power setting mode. No battery optimization or global power management in use.
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Those figures look like what the S22U achievied for me, at 60Hz. With 120Hz enabled shave off another 15-20% SOT.
Do happen to have screen shots of Accubattery Pro showing the battery status health of the Note 10+ during its first few cycles of its life? I don't recall Pie , but I remember it should be around 89% on Android 10 onwards. It went pear shaped reporting battery health wise for Samsung devices from Android 9 or 10 onwards using these apps.
Strange, I am actually looking forward in receiving old tech soon. I had skipped the Note 5 and Note 10 series completely at the time. T Mobile at the time was doing a special for new customers for the S10 series so myself and the worst half bought the S10+ during that incarnation era.
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Those figures look like what the S22U achievied for me, at 60Hz. With 120Hz enabled shave off another 15-20% SOT.
Do happen to have screen shots of Accubattery Pro showing the battery status health of the Note 10+ during its first few cycles of its life? I don't recall Pie , but I remember it should be around 89% on Android 10 onwards. It went pear shaped reporting battery health wise for Samsung devices from Android 9 or 10 onwards using these apps.
Strange, I am actually looking forward in receiving old tech soon. I had skipped the Note 5 and Note 10 series completely at the time. T Mobile at the time was doing a special for new customers for the S10 series so myself and the worst half bought the S10+ during that incarnation era.
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The S22U should be better percentage wise, it's got 5000 mAh battery! It's relative to total battery capacity.
The S22U also has more efficient ram and none of that pesky expandable storage
Lol, I toss old screen shots a lot.
Another measurement:
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The S22U should be better percentage wise, it's got 5000 mAh battery! It's relative to total battery capacity.
The S22U also has more efficient ram and none of that pesky expandable storage
Lol, I toss old screen shots a lot.
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I was referring to screen shot of health on new device, you never came across as someone that deleted old screen shots. How the hell do you make comparisons son?
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I was referring to screen shot of health on new device, you never came across as someone that deleted old screen shots. How the hell do you make comparisons son?
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The old fashioned way, memory
I look at Accubattery history daily to see what it's doing. Lol, do you have any idea how many screenshots I take some days?
It's so easy on the N10+ and than there's Screen Write too. The Note features are quit additive...or at least they used to be
How long till you go full retro?
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The old fashioned way, memory
I look at Accubattery history daily to see what it's doing. Lol, do you have any idea how many screenshots I take some days?
It's so easy on the N10+ and than there's Screen Write too. The Note features are quit additive...or at least they used to be
How long till you go full retro?
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Looking forward to doing my screen shooting soon , more so that the S Pen is easier to access. I sure missed the location from back in the Note 9 days. With the Note 20 Ultra and later S22U I never used the S pen due to it being located on the wrong side for me. My life is full retro, and full circles, long story.
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Looking forward to doing my screen shooting soon , more so that the S Pen is easier to access. I sure missed the location from back in the Note 9 days. With the Note 20 Ultra and later S22U I never used the S pen due to it being located on the wrong side for me. My life is full retro, and full circles, long story.
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Samsung has repeatedly dropped the ball on its newer flagships. The N10+'s form factor, functionality and usability is suberb. I wouldn't even trade the N10+ for any of them let alone pay for them.
I'm holding in my hand a 1.5tb dual drive Beast that's snappy fast, very stable, and runs like a gorgeous she bat out of hell.
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Well I am honestly shocked by this. I sort of expected the S20 Ultra not to meet my standards but not the Note 20 Ultra! Decided to stick with my Note 10+ for a bit until maybe Z Fold 2 or Note 20 Ultra drops in price or for another who knows how long.
Anyways thought I would share with you guys why I decided to stick with Note 10+ over the Note 20 Ultra.
First off the Note 20 Ultra is nowhere near a bad phone, much of an improvement over the S20 Ultra which I thought was junk. The main highlights of the device just didn't seem worth $1300+ to me.
Screen overall is literally just a hair bigger and actually a hair less vibrant and saturated then the Note 10.
Screen refresh rate still not sure why this is such a huge deal. Can you tell a difference? Yes slightly depending on what you are doing. Sort of like 4k on a tablet or small laptop really just not worth it imo
Cameras, oh yes the cameras. Glad to see the autofocus issue was fixed from the S20 Ultra and photos are great no matter what camera but the main sensor unless you are using the 108 mp for extreme detail and then you lose HDR look very similar to the Note 10. Only huge difference is the zoom lens on the Ultra and it is a big one. 5x zoom looks great and even 10x in most cases looks very good and usable. This is the only thing that made me actually want to keep the 20
Everything else is pretty much the same again as Note 10+ nothing else worth mentioning really
Few photos of the differences in whites and camera bumps and the pretty much same screens
Note 10+ physically looks a lot better to me.
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Yeah I was reading reviews and wasn't pleased with what Samsung did.
The variable refresh rate is cool especially if it save battery, kudas there.
The cam has laser assist AF lock too I believe, well done.
5 G, good.
The fastest Snapdragon yet yields a real performance boost although the 10+ never seems slow.
The bad, price tag is through the roof for the 512gb model.
This Note is even harder to protect than the 10 due the cam hump. That also means it really needs a case. Reports of no factory screen protector, not good especially since you'll want to lay it face down because of the cam hump.
Doesn't hardware support AptX HD bluetooth, very disappointing.
Not enough gain to replace the Note 10+ however a good upgrade maybe for a Note 8 or older.
However the Note 10+ is still a viable option especially if you want Pie.
In 2 months my Note 10+ will be a year old and it's still looking great, running strong in fact better then it ever has. Truth be told I'm still learning to use many of its features... not bored or tired of it by a long shot.
Samsung gave nothing much new for HD audio in the 20; AptX HD should have been present... a 3.5 mm jack been nice too.
Samsung needs a top shelf flagship model to get many people to upgrade from the 10+; this isn't it.
Add to that the world economy is a mess.
Samsung should have tried harder and catered more to the performance crowd to set this new Note further apart from the 10+.
Part of the reason for the fail is Samsung doesn't listen to its customers very well. Oh well... I'll wait.
On my Note 10+ I want:
A) Better battery.
B) Better fingerprint sensor. I see new pixels keep them to the back side. Well done Google.
C) Get rid of the silly front camera hole.
As long as these don't change, there is no reason to upgrade for me. Software updates, unnecessary camera and screen changes does not attract me. Especially with that price tag.
Speaking for those of us who get the Exynos chipset... Samsung sucks balls...
Thery are selling INFERIOR hardware for the same price, this relegates the 120Hz refresh rate to HD+ only and NOT to UHD, not because the phone can't handle it but because the Exynos chipset can't. They can't give part of the world this and leave everyone else out in the rain as that would highlight the inadequacies of the Exynos.
Exynos throttles, is a bigger drain on battery, it alters the picture quality of photo's taken and Samsung have the balls to charge us the same as the Snapdragon 865+ chipset...
For this the can shove the Note 20 Ultra, big camera bump and all, where the sun don't shine...
The price is just pure GREED! Useless money spent on creap publicity!
Any "high end" phone with Exynos cpu is ****.
However 120hz screen is fine. For me. Don't care much for qhd+/8k bull****. On a phone screen ?!?
I like Note 10+ 5g for the square screen (very rare these days) and the design. Only minus for me is that the display could be at least 90hz.
A good thing on 10+ and 20 ultra is sd card slot.
I will never buy 20 ultra even if the price will be 500 euros with exynos cpu!
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Maybe enough returns will get Samsung's attention to listen to what their customers what... and don't want.
The large storage is great but not without easy 24 bit audio output. The 3.5 mm jack, there's room for it and spend the extra few cents for the bt chipset that supports AptX-HD.
Sad because this fix was easy and cheap to do.
This very expensive phone should have the best and latest chipsets in it, it doesn't. A locked bootloader doesn't give me any thrills either, Samsung Pay and Knox grrrr.
Fail, again.
As for the cams, at this price point buying a dedicated Canon for shooting makes more sense; much better interchangable optics and dedicated AF/image processors.
I use my 10+ more like a laptop than a cam...
That cam hump sucks and I see it as a major liability from a damage stand point. The Note 10+ is hard enough to protect, the 20 U is far worse.
Then there's wittle Bixby... other than it's cam smart functions it's completely worthless to me and a huge privacy invasive.
Wearables have the same privacy issues and need all the permissions under the sun to even load, really?
Samsung is very hard of hearing.
Kudos for jamming their Note 20 U were it belongs...
The only thing I wish Samsung would do for their camera is when you turn off hdr it actually turns off. So ridiculous. Hdr is always on no matter what you do. Besides switching to pro mode.
I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.
Agreed, the Note 20 Ultra is a bit too overpriced, $1300 for almost no improvement over the previous year's device? No thanks.
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I'm sticking with my Note 10+. Am very pleased with it and I've only suffered 2% battery degradation in the first year of use. Using it daily 4 to 12 hours screen on time.
I love how thin the device is and the camera bump on the Note 20 Ultra is not acceptable to me.
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How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that
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How is it possible to measure that? Battery degradation, I've been curious lately about that
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Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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When you first set it up, the battery estimate it gives is from the Android system's battery degradation estimates. I have another app that can see it as well.
It's overlay ma meter is useful.
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Using AccuBattery. Installed it first thing when I bought my Note 10+
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Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.
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Seriously bro?
Accubattery isn't accurate at telling you the battery health on current devices. Its a known common fact on here.
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I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.
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I consider it more a battery charging tool.
It's useful as a charge alarm, for it's milliamp overlay usage and battery temp info.
It's charge history is useful unfortunately it's highest resolution is in minutes.
I divide the total about of milliamps absorbed during the charge cycle by the time it took to gauge battery health. I consider anything above 85 [email protected] good in the 30-70% range.
As the battery degrades I expect this value will decrease.
Lol, the phone's battery life estimate isn't any better.
The app is glitchy, it stops recording charge history.. A reload every now and then solves that. This would make it's long term wear estimates inaccurate even if it's wear curve is accurate.
Short term though it's wear graph gives a good comparative indication of how much you're degrading the battery.
Graphically illustrates why you don't want to charge above 80% or go below 30% very often.
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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.
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Indeed. As bad as some of it's functionality is, I still use it and have done so since my Note 4 days. This and GSAM are normally the first two apps that get installed on any new Android device that I use.
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Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.
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Going to start unplugging the charger right after a battery percentage point flips to try to get better than a 60 second resolution for the charge history.
Lol, the first app I install is the package disabler.
Going to try Gsam, Thanks.... see how well it's battery tracker does.
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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.
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Just make sure to remove it off battery optimization. Similar to accubattery pro.
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The only things I have toggle in Device Care are Optimize for power setting and fast charging.
Then I disable Device Care.
Using the old factory load Pie version which has 360° on it. I use it's cache cleaner as it cleans well but I put in airplane mode first.
All buckets show as active in standby apps; no power management is active other than the embedded Android ones. Runs great
So I saw that upon release the 6 pro had a lot of bugs, bad battery life, etc but I'm curious months later how is the phone? I currently have the s21 ultra but I'm considering switching to this phone just because I'm a pixel fan and I know that camera is a beast.
I've not had any of the issues others had on this phone. Battery life is decent for me plenty of sot over a days worth. Just recently got the 12L beta and using it as a daily driver with no issues
Yep I too confirm that I don't have the experiences others have. I've had great experience with my 6 pro and love this phone.
The first phone I had was terrible, the 2nd one I smashed in a fit of rage. Now the third one I have has been AWESOME.
I really enjoy the reliability of it. Super quick phone for my needs.
My wife and I have loved ours all along, for closer to four months now (over 3 1/2 months). We haven't had any major issues at all, including the fingerprint readers.
First pixel and have never had a problem, seems the issues are way overblown like every new popular device, they'll all move to the next major release for free clickbait and money
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So I saw that upon release the 6 pro had a lot of bugs, bad battery life, etc but I'm curious months later how is the phone? I currently have the s21 ultra but I'm considering switching to this phone just because I'm a pixel fan and I know that camera is a beast.
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The P6 Pro's display is likely to be inferior to the S21U's in color rendering index and white point.
It's a problem common to all variable refresh rate displays, they are much more problematic to calibrate. Samsung is at the top of the game for doing this.
Samsung gives you countless free themes, icon packs, even virtual buttons if you want plus the Good Lock customization apps. Customization with a Samsung shouldn't be an issue.
Until something clearly better comes along I would wait however...
If you're hell bent on a P6 Pro, get it.
Life is short, enjoy it. The phone is with you most of the time.
If you currently have the S21U then moving to the p6p isn't really that much of an upgrade.
The p6p camera is marginally better at best.
Like previously stated above and I confirm the screen on my S21U looks way better than the p6p.
The only reason I'd recommend the p6p is if you just like pure android.
This is just my take on it.
I do own both.
Despite my original P6P going bad (touch screen issues) after a month or so of owning it. With my replacement, I couldn't be happier. Battery life is great, performance is solid, and I have zero issues. The 12L Beta 3 feels like how this phone should have been at launch.
I love it, it's my first high refresh rate! Before I was using 60hz
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If you currently have the S21U then moving to the p6p isn't really that much of an upgrade.
The p6p camera is marginally better at best.
Like previously stated above and I confirm the screen on my S21U looks way better than the p6p.
The only reason I'd recommend the p6p is if you just like pure android.
This is just my take on it.
I do own both.
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Yeah I do know samsung has the best screens and sorry I wasn't looking for an upgrade just a change of pace really. My last phone was the s20 fe and then before that I had a oneplus phone which I really loved. I do love samsung and know their phones are fantastic but yeah I do love pure android. Thank you for your response.
Thank you everyone for your reply/input! My last pixel phone was the 2xl and I've been craving to have another pixel so I may give this a shot. Like blackhawk said life is short so might as well pick what I want and not worry too much about having the best or whatever.
Never had a problem with mine. I replaced my Xperia 1 lll with this and I don't regret it at all. Would have been nice of the screen was flat but all in all great phone. I installed the Whitestone dome tempered glass and it's perfect
My primary P6P issue has been connectivity. I can't say it is only the modem and software. With 5G on, it is a battery vampire. However, I think constant bouncing between cell towers where I live is a contributor.
I wish I could say I haven't had other issues with the monthly updates. November was fine, however the following introduced or exacerbated ill behavior.
Bluetooth worked flawlessly until February's update.
Anyway, good luck!
P6P is awesome. I bought out my OnePlus 9($517) traded it in for $600 towards my pixel 6 pro. Sold my S21 Ultra in the process. Battery on the S21 Ultra was complete @$$. Super happy with my phone as the battery lasts a full shift of work with close to 8hr SOT. Got my wife the S22 Ultra that arrives on Monday.
Get the phone that suits you and your needs. I like simplicity and I'm tired of flashing roms to get a Pixel UI so why not just buy a Pixel haha. That's just me
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So I saw that upon release the 6 pro had a lot of bugs, bad battery life, etc but I'm curious months later how is the phone? I currently have the s21 ultra but I'm considering switching to this phone just because I'm a pixel fan and I know that camera is a beast.
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For now same bugs, just few of its:
1. Battery life is not good
2. Fast charge is not fast, because when battery temperature come to 100F charging current decreases to 0,9A
3. 5G/volte/vowifi work only in supported and few other country (volte/viwifi you can enable with root, 5g-no)
4. FoD work more good that on start, but not great.
5. No faceid
6. Signal level is less, than on Samsung in same situation.
7. AoD has no settings at all
8. For connecting 3.5 or headset you need DAC, other headset and type-c->3.5 would not work.
Absolutly no reasons to switch from Samsung S21U to Pixel 6/pro. I want to switch back to Samsung.
I just got mine a few days ago (256gb version from Germany as only 128gb version is available in France).
I'm a bit disappointed I must admit. I knew there was a chance of having some issues as I did a lot of research before buying, but there are a lot of people very happy so I took a chance.
I don't have any of the real bugs others do (wifi, Bluetooth disconnects,etc) so I am lucky in that respect, but the FP scanner, charging speed and battery life alone show that Google made a cheap phone, not a flagship.
Coming from a OnePlus 8, the pill is kinda hard to swallow.
I like the design and really hope the experience will improve, but I think the issues I have are hardware related so can't really be fixed (FP and old Samsung modem).
Android 12 will of course improve over time (I just reverted from 12L beta last night - wanted to see if FP and/or battery life improved with second Feb update - I can't draw any conclusions yet).
I still don't get how during 2 hours of airplane mode, the battery is showing mobile network at 36%.
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joaste said:
I just got mine a few days ago (256gb version from Germany as only 128gb version is available in France).
I'm a bit disappointed I must admit. I knew there was a chance of having some issues as I did a lot of research before buying, but there are a lot of people very happy so I took a chance.
I don't have any of the real bugs others do (wifi, Bluetooth disconnects,etc) so I am lucky in that respect, but the FP scanner, charging speed and battery life alone show that Google made a cheap phone, not a flagship.
Coming from a OnePlus 8, the pill is kinda hard to swallow.
I like the design and really hope the experience will improve, but I think the issues I have are hardware related so can't really be fixed (FP and old Samsung modem).
Android 12 will of course improve over time (I just reverted from 12L beta last night - wanted to see if FP and/or battery life improved with second Feb update - I can't draw any conclusions yet).
I still don't get how during 2 hours of airplane mode, the battery is showing mobile network at 36%.
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I'm having 2 main issues. My cellular signal is always dropping. I live in Winnipeg, MB, Canada. We do have 5g. My Pixel 3 xl has no trouble getting signal but this pixel 6 is terrible. I drop connection every 2 hours for about 5 minutes. As a result calls drop, and SMS don't send.
Lots of trouble with the fingerprint scanner. I get that it is slow (takes 3 seconds to unlock with my finger) but it fails 1/3 of the time and I have to put in the phone's code.
Despite these problems I am surprising satisfied with everything else. The device is fast. It gets batter battery life then my Pixel 3 XL.
Sadly because of the problems I am experiencing I still can't advise anyone get this device. Not until they fix these cellular issues. It's a phone and top priority should be reliable cellular connections.
I dont have any bugs, never had. Only the fingerprint used to be a bit slow and my battery life was not as good as some people post online.
Everything is much better on 12L. Fingerprint is faster and now unlocks on cheap plastic screen protector. Signal seems a little worse for me on 12L, even drops to 3g sometime at my moms house(never did before) but despite that the battery life for me is much better. I get about 6hr screen on time in like 48 hours of use. (Some people post they get around 10 to 11, I dont know how)
Hi,
I am quite aware that S22 has the new chipset and a beast, but my only worry is battery.
S21 has 4000mAh and S22 has 3700 mAh. Confused as to which serves the best when it comes to usage. Did search a lot for drain test between these two and never found one.
Any suggestions please.
Cheers and Regards
if battery is the only concern. s21. or better yet. another brand
Nil96 said:
Hi,
I am quite aware that S22 has the new chipset and a beast, but my only worry is battery.
S21 has 4000mAh and S22 has 3700 mAh. Confused as to which serves the best when it comes to usage. Did search a lot for drain test between these two and never found one.
Any suggestions please.
Cheers and Regards
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I've not been into Samsung for years, as I don't like their software and often find their hardware substandard for the price. MIUI/Xiaomi offers a choice between modern status bar/notifications, modern app recents and improves upon stock Android without bloating it up.
Three hottest phones right now
Xiaomi Poco F3
Realme GT Neo 3
Xiaomi Redmi K50/K50 Pro (2k display)
I'm usually a snapdragon fan, but this snapdragon gen 1 has overheating and high power consumption issues.
had s21 and it had better battery life
I've got the 8 Gen 1 S22 and it's sufficient to say it's a terrible phone. It overheats, it gets stuttery most of the time probably because it's getting throttled, and the battery is bad. From 100 to 50% it's bad and from 50% and below it's terrible because it drains faster. And it's even worse when the phone runs hot, which is pretty much gonna be the norm in a hot summer environment. Then there's the last 5% which is non-existent because it's basically like a countdown in seconds from 5 to 0%. In other words, if your phone hit 5% it's gonna turn off in a matter of seconds if you don't plug it in ASAP.
So the math is kind of like this and note that I'm gonna talk about a period of 24h of use, both active and idle:
- you've got a battery of 3590mAh, the real capacity. I'm gonna cut that 5% right now because that simply doesn't exist. That means 180mA, which leaves you with just 3410mAh.
- 25-30% is the idle drain, and it's gonna stay in this range no matter what you're gonna try to do. Believe me, I tried EVRYTHING, even turning off cores and so on. The damn thing finds a way to drain battery with the screen off somehow.
- you're now left with only 65% of actually battery for SOT. That translates into ~2216mAh. That is all you have from a full charge.
- now the active drain is gonna be ~20%/h no matter what any battery monitor app tells you. That is 682mA/h.
*** This is all with normal use, which includes more than just watching videos, scenario in which the lack of touch events + the screen on will count towards that SOT recording and of course that's gonna increase the SOT. But that's kind of like fake SOT. When you start swiping up and down within apps, switching between them, browsing the web, which all means that you're getting the CPU to go from a range of frequencies, is when the actual real usage happens, so that's the true SOT of a phone.***
So, to get back to the math part, you're gonna get 3h15m. You're gonna watch some videos, I don't doubt that and that's gonna reduce that 20%/h to something lower, as long as there are no touch events. That's gonna get you over 3h30m. If you're watching a lot of YouTube and such, you can hit 4h SOT. But the average SOT for this phone is 3.5h.
That is terrible battery life for a phone in 2022. Samsung's node for the 8 Gen 1 was a complete fail and that is why Qualcomm went back to TSMC for the 8 Gen 1 Plus, and the efficiency gains for just a refresh of the same CPU, are insane. We're talking about 30% more efficiency. Insane! The 8 Gen 1 is pathetic and it's rarely gonna run the way it was meant to because it can't due to the heat it constantly produces. Paired with the small S22, there's not enough phone to dissipate that heat more efficiently, and therefore you're left with a choked out "beast". I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that if I choke out The Rock and make him run with me on his back, he's not gonna perform very well, no matter how buff he is.
The bigger brother though, the S22+ is not gonna have the same issues. There's more material to dissipate the heat more efficiently and there's also a considerably larger battery inside. Not a lot bigger but big enough. You've got the same screen so the power consumption is gonna be different. Now all those percentages I mentioned above are gonna be based on the bigger battery. The idle drain is gonna stay the same but instead of 30%, that value would be ~24%. If that 5% issue is the same, you're left with ~3100mAh for SOT. The active drain would then be 16%/h. If my math is correct, with some room for error, you'd be able to get 4h40m with the same usage I initially mentioned for the smaller phone. With those reduced touch event during the videos, you'd be able to get over 5h out of it on a 24h charge. And if that 5% issue is not present, you've got ~200 more mA which would give roughly 20 more minutes over 5h, for SOT. Not that bad.
That's why I regret getting the small phone. Not as much as getting rid of the 13Pro I used before it, which offered me the best battery life I've ever had in a phone, but I still regret it.
In conclusion, you either go big in the Android world, or suffer. Or you can get the S21 and have better battery life than the S22. Your choice.
did you get latest June updates installed on it? I have already returned my galaxy s22 but another person who i know who was using his s22 on power save mode turned off after the latest update. He said it helped a lot?
S8_guy said:
did you get latest June updates installed on it? I have already returned my galaxy s22 but another person who i know who was using his s22 on power save mode turned off after the latest update. He said it helped a lot?
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Don't be fooled by any claims. The battery is simply too small to have noticeable gains. One moment you think it's doing great and suddenly the table turns. For instance you'd think 2h50m SOT at the 50% mark is great and you'll get at least another 2.5h out of it considering how much battery you still have, but then later that day you see that you just hit 3.5h SOT and the battery is now at 15%. So the stats are very tweaked to mislead you and not show the real SOT. It's kind of what Apple does with the percentage that's over 90% where the battery drops very slowly but then it starts to get faster.
With Power Saver mode at all times, Google's services freak out a lot more frequent because they can't send and receive data at any time without interruptions. That results in even higher idle drain. You virtually gain no additional battery life, or something small that you can barely call gains.
So you gotta use the phone as is, without any interventions this way allowing it to perform anything it needs to do in the background. After getting mine to stock, I've been getting that 3.5, 4h SOT which is pretty consistent right now. I don't look at the drain or how much per hour gets wasted, etc. I just use it as a regular folk who doesn't know about these more in depth stats. This way I only got used to charging it a certain way and not caring about the rest. If by any chance I notice a higher drain than usual, again, I don't investigate because I know it'll only get me depressed or something. I just reboot the phone and thing settle for a while.
It's the best way to use this terrible phone. You were very inspired when you decided to return it. Literally ANYTHING on the market is better than this thing.
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Don't be fooled by any claims. The battery is simply too small to have noticeable gains. One moment you think it's doing great and suddenly the table turns. For instance you'd think 2h50m SOT at the 50% mark is great and you'll get at least another 2.5h out of it considering how much battery you still have, but then later that day you see that you just hit 3.5h SOT and the battery is now at 15%. So the stats are very tweaked to mislead you and not show the real SOT. It's kind of what Apple does with the percentage that's over 90% where the battery drops very slowly but then it starts to get faster.
With Power Saver mode at all times, Google's services freak out a lot more frequent because they can't send and receive data at any time without interruptions. That results in even higher idle drain. You virtually gain no additional battery life, or something small that you can barely call gains.
So you gotta use the phone as is, without any interventions this way allowing it to perform anything it needs to do in the background. After getting mine to stock, I've been getting that 3.5, 4h SOT which is pretty consistent right now. I don't look at the drain or how much per hour gets wasted, etc. I just use it as a regular folk who doesn't know about these more in depth stats. This way I only got used to charging it a certain way and not caring about the rest. If by any chance I notice a higher drain than usual, again, I don't investigate because I know it'll only get me depressed or something. I just reboot the phone and thing settle for a while.
It's the best way to use this terrible phone. You were very inspired when you decided to return it. Literally ANYTHING on the market is better than this thing.
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I am thinking about switching over to iphone. My existing galaxy s8 is old. I really like to iphone 13 mini, but not sure about its battery life. I guess it has a 14 day return period as well.
If that doesn't do it, then i might go for the regular iphone 13.
S8_guy said:
I am thinking about switching over to iphone. My existing galaxy s8 is old. I really like to iphone 13 mini, but not sure about its battery life. I guess it has a 14 day return period as well.
If that doesn't do it, then i might go for the regular iphone 13.
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This is how it goes. Small Android devices will NEVER give you great battery life, and I'm talking about the likes of S22 and such in terms of size and also with the title of flagship device. You just can't have both. I learn it the hard way, which is wasting money on devices for the past 3 years to reach this conclusion.
So if you want a powerful Android device with more than good battery life, you gotta go big. No way around it. If someone claims that they're getting great SOT on their small Android phone, that's because they're very light users, mostly watching videos. That means no touch events and that translates into very few frequency rampups and that in its turn means lower CPU usage that gives you longer SOT, but that's not representative of the regular usage which involves a lot more than that.
Only Apple offers great battery life in a smaller form factor and that's mainly because it's a hell of a lot easier job to optimize the software for a handful of devices which have the most important pieces of hardware inside built inhouse. It's just the absolute best situation for them.
However, going for the smallest phone would be a mistake. You'd get decent battery life for that size but it's still bad. The regular 13 is the best choice if you still want a small phone. I'd personally get the 13 Pro which has even better battery life than the regular variant plus the 120Hz screen. And let me tell you, the level of smoothness you get from 120Hz iOS is on a whole another level than on 120Hz Android. iOS has a lot less frequent frame drops, and by that I mean they're almost non existent. On Android, framedrops are everywhere and anywhere, no matter how "buttery smooth" people claim it is. It's not. The frame dips, the so called stutters, are noticeable and they occur most of the time no matter the app, when you scroll up and down. It's always been there.
But yeah, get an iPhone and you'll see what I'm talking about. After selling my 13 Pro to go back on Android because I got bored of iOS, I regretted it when I saw the battery life on my S22, not to mention overheating and overall poor performance because of that.
Something else to consider is how much better iPhones hold their value compared to Android phones. I can get a brand new S22 for $570 from the trading market in my country. I paid $1040 for my current crap of a phone. It's nearly half the price now. At the same time, I can buy a brand new 13 Pro from the same place for $1025, the cheapest one. I paid $1250 for mine when I got it last year in October. That's just $225 value lost in 8 months. The S22's price dropped to nearly half in just 3 months. It's just insane.
So get a 13 or 13 Pro, or if you can wait a little longer, get a 14. I'm getting the 14 Pro Max, without thinking twice. It's a brick but I don't want to have to worry about battery life ever again, to force close apps and services and constantly check on the background activity so I can try to save some juice.
My POV though. Android has always been letting me down
My galaxy s8 used to last two full days when i got it new. Nowadays, it last me a full day with regular use, keep in mind that i put a new battery in it and did not update to the latest firmware. It has only two year of update and it killed the battery by one day.
Those updates age the phone, doesn't matter which OS it is ( android or ios). I am going to do a trial on the 13 mini, and if that doesn't work i am going to go for the iphone 14 pro ( not the max). the pro models will ditch the notch as well. It would be one hell of an upgrade from my s8.
Not sure, why you didn't return your galaxy s22 during the trial period?
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My galaxy s8 used to last two full days when i got it new. Nowadays, it last me a full day with regular use, keep in mind that i put a new battery in it and did not update to the latest firmware. It has only two year of update and it killed the battery by one day.
Those updates age the phone, doesn't matter which OS it is ( android or ios). I am going to do a trial on the 13 mini, and if that doesn't work i am going to go for the iphone 14 pro ( not the max). the pro models will ditch the notch as well. It would be one hell of an upgrade from my s8.
Not sure, why you didn't return your galaxy s22 during the trial period?
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When I ordered this thing, I also put in the cart a white Samsung bumper case too. When I received the package, I unboxed the phone and the case, put the phone in it then booted up the device. It was a pretty tight fit. After 4 days I decided that nope, I'm not keeping this pathetic thing. So I already had a few tabs open with some guys selling their Pixel 5 phones. I just needed to choose one.
So I take out the S22 out of the case and surprise! Micro scratches all around the frame from when I inserted the phone in the case. Because the damn case is made of a hard material and the plastic inside wasn't completely smooth at the edge, all the tiny imperfections left a mark on the supposedly military grade aluminium the frame is made of, when I inserted it in it. Marketing at its finest. I then emailed the store I ordered the phone from and they asked the department in charge how it would go from there if I returned the phone in that condition. They tagged it as "non-returnable" because it's not in the same condition and cannot be sold as new anymore. OR they could deduce a tax that consists of replacing the frame with a new original one. That also includes the display and the whole restoration of the device would mean -400 euros from the initial price. Just from those micro scratches around the frame.
So that's why I'm now stuck with this thing. I even took it out of the case, removed the screen protector and I'm using it naked. It's all scuffed and scratched from just using it like that, without dropping it or anything. The durability of this thing is absolutely pathetic, a complete joke.
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When I ordered this thing, I also put in the cart a white Samsung bumper case too. When I received the package, I unboxed the phone and the case, put the phone in it then booted up the device. It was a pretty tight fit. After 4 days I decided that nope, I'm not keeping this pathetic thing. So I already had a few tabs open with some guys selling their Pixel 5 phones. I just needed to choose one.
So I take out the S22 out of the case and surprise! Micro scratches all around the frame from when I inserted the phone in the case. Because the damn case is made of a hard material and the plastic inside wasn't completely smooth at the edge, all the tiny imperfections left a mark on the supposedly military grade aluminium the frame is made of, when I inserted it in it. Marketing at its finest. I then emailed the store I ordered the phone from and they asked the department in charge how it would go from there if I returned the phone in that condition. They tagged it as "non-returnable" because it's not in the same condition and cannot be sold as new anymore. OR they could deduce a tax that consists of replacing the frame with a new original one. That also includes the display and the whole restoration of the device would mean -400 euros from the initial price. Just from those micro scratches around the frame.
So that's why I'm now stuck with this thing. I even took it out of the case, removed the screen protector and I'm using it naked. It's all scuffed and scratched from just using it like that, without dropping it or anything. The durability of this thing is absolutely pathetic, a complete joke.
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Absolute tragedy! Sounds like your just stuck with this phone for sometime or your other choice is to sell for a loss in the used market.
On a side note, I ordered a case and screen protector online for the galaxy s22. It arrived a month after i returned the phone. I lost about $15 on it. I was too cheap to order it from samsung directly.
The regular iphone 13 looks like the phone to get for me, I guess i will wait for iphone 14 to launch and buy the iphone 13 on a discount.
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Absolute tragedy! Sounds like your just stuck with this phone for sometime or your other choice is to sell for a loss in the used market.
The regular iphone 13 looks like the phone to get for me, I guess i will wait for iphone 14 to launch and buy the iphone 13 on a discount.
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Good idea. The regular 14 I believe the rumours say will look identical to the 13 too.
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Good idea. The regular 14 I believe the rumours say will look identical to the 13 too.
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lol...also has the same processor. Not sure, what would the upgrade really be.
Nil96 said:
Hi,
I am quite aware that S22 has the new chipset and a beast, but my only worry is battery.
S21 has 4000mAh and S22 has 3700 mAh. Confused as to which serves the best when it comes to usage. Did search a lot for drain test between these two and never found one.
Any suggestions please.
Cheers and Regards
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I don't think the the battery will be that much of an issue for S22 because the phone itself is more efficient then the S21. So technically you should get more out of the smaller battery.
S20 or S20 Ultra will be a better option then S22.
I bought the S22 only because my old phone died and the S22 was on sale and in stock.
Other wise I would have bought the S20.
The S22 series are new with a lot more great specs so you can get any S22 series model!
I have been using my galaxy s8 since late 2017 and am looking to upgrade to galaxy s22.
I purchased it in early may and ended up returning it due to poor battery life. My battery would get down to 30% before the end of business day.
Now, I have heard that samsung has released some software updates to the phone and it has fixed the battery drain.
Can people on here confirm it?
I have a new battery installed on my galaxy s8 and it is significantly better than what the s22 was doing in May.
The current generation of Snapdragon's appear to have big problems that firmware can't fix. At the least I would hold off on purchasing one until the dust settles.
I'm running 2 N10+'s. It's a substantial upgrade from the N9 or S8 in your case.
New factory sealedones can still be had. Used for $200-300 less but will likely be loaded with Android 11 not 10.
To give you prospective after a lot of research I blew off the N20U, S21U and the S22U for a new N10+ N975U1. The Beast is a well balanced workhouse with a superb form factor. It will need to be optimized but can easily get 10+ hrs SOT.
The build Q is excellent... and it has expandable storage.
S8_guy said:
I have been using my galaxy s8 since late 2017 and am looking to upgrade to galaxy s22.
I purchased it in early may and ended up returning it due to poor battery life. My battery would get down to 30% before the end of business day.
Now, I have heard that samsung has released some software updates to the phone and it has fixed the battery drain.
Can people on here confirm it?
I have a new battery installed on my galaxy s8 and it is significantly better than what the s22 was doing in May.
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Take his advice with a grain of salt. He doesn't own an S22 of any kind.
The battery life is not that bad. You really can't compare it to the S8. It will depend on your use. I have the S22 Ultra and by the end of the work day I'm at around 30% after 8 hours of moderate use. My daughter has the S22 and she's a heavier user than I; she's gone all day on one charge. By the end of the day she's at around 20%.
Initial battery performance will not be great, but it will improve as the phone learns your usage patterns and starts optimizing its performance.
I feel that the S22 series phones are simply not as efficient as the older phones (probably due to 5G, higher refresh rate, and also it is doing more in the background). I notice that my older Note 8, S9, Note 10 all have much better battery usage doing background task than the S22.
Having said that, the S22 battery can last a day unless you are heavy use. It is true that it needs a little settling time like a week or two but once it settled in, it seems to have fairly consistent battery usage. I think if you were able to get a full day use with 30% left when you had your S22, then you are going to be fine here as the phone should last you a full day of use. I don't think the new software update would significantly improve the battery life for you. And I certainly don't think it will be able to provide as good battery life as the S8 that you had. This is simply based on my personal experience where older device seems to be more efficient with background tasks so the battery drains less when not actively use.
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I feel that the S22 series phones are simply not as efficient as the older phones (probably due to 5G, higher refresh rate, and also it is doing more in the background). I notice that my older Note 8, S9, Note 10 all have much better battery usage doing background task than the S22.
Having said that, the S22 battery can last a day unless you are heavy use. It is true that it needs a little settling time like a week or two but once it settled in, it seems to have fairly consistent battery usage. I think if you were able to get a full day use with 30% left when you had your S22, then you are going to be fine here as the phone should last you a full day of use. I don't think the new software update would significantly improve the battery life for you. And I certainly don't think it will be able to provide as good battery life as the S8 that you had. This is simply based on my personal experience where older device seems to be more efficient with background tasks so the battery drains less when not actively use.
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There's a very noticeable speed performance jump from the N9 with the N10+. Much improved display. With 12gb of ram it can take heavy app loading with ease.
Unfortunately the liabilities of the newer models kill that balance. The performance increase is negligible; you pay dearly for those marginal improvements in terms of battery life and thermal load. I've posted in depth about this and why the N10+ remains my weapon of choice. It's not one or two factors alone but a balnce of form factor, display, usability, functionality, cpu power, memory, battery life, rock solid reliability and very low maintenance. If running on Android 10 or Pie, no cpu cycle sucking scoped storage while still patched against the worst "immortal" rootkits.
The 1.5gb dual drive handheld PC in my hand remains the pinnacle for the Samsung flagship poweruser.
Rubber biting the asphalt... instead of a lot smoking hype.
Samsung is capable of producing great flagships but all they been doing lately is dropping balls and looking like a fat Apple
I am looking for a phone with a small form factor. Pixel 5 come to mind, but its build quality and mid range CPU doesn't do it for me.
Not sure, what else is out there.
S8_guy said:
I am looking for a phone with a small form factor. Pixel 5 come to mind, but its build quality and mid range CPU doesn't do it for me.
Not sure, what else is out there.
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The S22 is slightly bigger at 6.1" Keep in mind the bezels are smaller, which makes the S22's total size is not much bigger (0.10in longer) than the S8. Right now the "sweet spot" the OEMS are making is around 6" or so. That isn't going to change anytime soon.
S8:
Dimensions148.9 x 68.1 x 8 mm (5.86 x 2.68 x 0.31 in)Weight155 g (5.47 oz)
S22:
Dimensions146 x 70.6 x 7.6 mm (5.75 x 2.78 x 0.30 in)Weight167 g / 168 g (mmWave) (5.89 oz)
src: GSMArena
One big difference is Samsung went back to a flat screen for both the S22 and S22+ (that trend started with the S21 I believe). Also, the fingerprint reader is in the display and it works great. I had the S8+ and I think the fingerprint reader on the S22 family is better than the S8/Note 8 family.
The S8 is actually thicker than the S22. The S22 is a little heavier, but that is mostly due to a larger battery and larger display.
OneUI 4.1 is actually pretty good. My daughter likes that over Microsoft Launcher (which is what I use). Android 12 is pretty good too. Although some will argue that. DeX has also improved significantly. One of the reasons I got the S8+ (and later the Note 8) was the introduction of DeX. If you have a smart TV (especially a Samsung smart TV) or monitor, you can use your S22 almost like a desktop. All you need is a BT keyboard and mouse.
My daughter has the S22 256GB Snap Dragon (unlocked) version and she likes it a lot. And like I said, she goes all day on a charge.
Samsung did remove the microSD card reader, which I am still on the fence as to whether that was a good idea; although I have not, nor has my daughter, missed it.
Samsung Galaxy S8 - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
Samsung Galaxy S22 5G - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
If you do decide on the S22, I recommend the 256GB version.
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Replace the LG battery and be happy.
Lol, if it's got a 5000 mAh battery it's because it sucks juice like a 2nd st hooker.
Variable refresh rate displays are something of a menace, still. Android 12 is a menace
For what it's worth, I don't have any problems with the battery life on my Pixel 6 Pro. I know there have been many others who do, though, as you said.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.
katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Wait.
Like everything, battery life will depend on your usage.
I unplugged my P6P this morning at 5:15. It is now 11:45 and battery is at 86%. Most of that battery drop was while I was driving to work, car gets data by tethering through phone, and that draws a fairly continuous flow of navigation data, which while not a large amount of data, keeps the phone awake and drains the battery down.
I also run GrapheneOS, completely free of gooble crap, so that will obviously benefit the battery life substantially.
Unless you can get a real great deal on the 6, I'd wait on the 7. Just keep the old phone plugged in more and you should be able to drag it out long enough.
katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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In case money matters, the Pixel 6 series is $200 off right now at the U.S. Google Store. Sale ends Wednesday.
Wait.
Better modem, better fingerprint sensor, face unlock for both models
Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...
spinoza23 said:
Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...
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At least get a new battery, regardless you'll have a backup phone. That's a good thing.
You lose nothing by waiting if you can. Then pick the best phone by usability, functionality, and reliability. Does it fullfill it's mission, is it fun to use?
That's why I'm still running 2 N10+'s which I still highly recommend if running on 9 or 10. I haven't seen anything in over 2 years that would do what or how I wanted... I use whatever comes in handy.
I had the LG G7, gave it to my dad who still uses it now. I've owned/used a Pixel 4a, 4a5g and now the Pixel 6 pro. The 6 pro is the best phone I've used out of all of them. I have no battery issues on my 6pro, and it is much faster/nicer experience over the G7. I wanted a bigger screen and an updated/better software experience. The LG G7 on verizon is not getting any updates past Android 9 (not 100% sure?) So I went with an unlocked 6Pro.
Waiting is always going to be your best bet, but it also depends on what your biggest gripes are with the G7 besides the aging battery. If you can get a good deal on the 6/6 Pro or even a Galaxy 22 ultra they both have excellent software update guarantees and great battery. I predict however the difference between the 6pro and 7pro will not be that big and you won't miss out on much other than you having the feeling of knowing you have the latest phone. Look on Swappa site to find great deals now or close to when the 7pro goes on sale. Lots of people there that take good care of their devices looking to sell.
As someone that loves my Pixel 6 Pro, if you can wait then do it.
My biggest gripes with the phone are the modem, 1st gen tensor, and inconsistent fingerprint reader. I live on the cusp of 5G and it wreaks havoc on my battery. I have to turn off 5G when I'm home which is a pain in the butt. The 1st gen tensor also has a tendency to heat up when it's warm out. I've had the phone get super warm and thermal throttle a couple of times now in my first summer with it. My hopes are that the second gen is a little more resilient. Lastly, the fingerprint reader has been hit or miss depending on various screen protectors. Some films worked, some didn't. My first Whitestone Dome was more hit than miss, my second has been flawless but slooow.
All that said, I still love this phone. If you don't want to wait, or can't, then go for it. It has its' quirks, but it's still probably my favorite phone in a while. I'll likely trade up for a P7 Pro when it comes out.
wait until it is with good moderm and good heat managment
I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.
darkness4every1 said:
I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.
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That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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They might just as well add a micro blower fan and a 10 Ah battery and call it done.
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That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year
katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?
darkness4every1 said:
My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year
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Ouch, that can happen. Just replace it when it gets to 80% of its original capacity, the end of it's useful service life to avoid a battery failure. That can damage to display or worse.
I expect a 1 year service life on a heavily used device especially if is used in high temperatures or is constantly under a high current drain. No big deal, just routine maintenance.
Many of the lastest Androids are hot running messes, not well balanced at all. The manufacturer shoving in a huge battery in masks the poor design but it's not a solution
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Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?
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For me this would even make less sense, because you get the same Tensor and the same crappy modem while you miss out on the main advantage of the P6P - the top camera.
The Google P6P is my first smartphone that can comfortably handle a full day of intensive photography on a day trip, along with looking at the map and recording the route, on a single charge, and still has some power left over.