So, anyoneknow what the little hole/dent is above the flash? Doesnt seem to serve any purpose, but guess its there for a reason. At first i thought it was a chip in the glass, but then searched and saw they all have them.
Maybe it is the zoom microphone for video? That is what I think.
I just checked the official hardware diagram, and it's not explained there. The one you refer to (above the flash) is not part of the diagram at all, I just checked my phone and I also got a small hole above the flash, even though there is no indication about it on the diagram. There are also 2 little holes clearly visible above/between the wide and ultrawide cams that are also not explained.
Mh. Might be a rear microphone, as Markus_G assumes, but we don't know for sure.
Since it's the only part of the rear camera module that has an actual hole (cutout in the glass), it's probably relatively safe to assume that it's a microphone.
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SIM card tray
Top speaker
Top microphone
Front-facing camera
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Volume up/down button
Fingerprint sensor
Rear-facing camera
Tele camera
LED flash
NFC
Bottom speaker
USB-C port
Bottom microphone
It is known for certainty that the P6 Pro has a secondary, ambient light sensor inside the rear camera module (plus one at the front next to the selfie cam). But we don't know for sure which hole is which.
I just checked the previous hardware diagrams, and in some of them Google added a couple of informations retroactively.
I highlighted the interesting part.
This is just odd. I checked my old P4 and there is the same cutout next to the flash that you referred to above the P6 flash. BUT that cutout is not mentioned - not even shown, it doesn't exist - on the P6 diagram. I can only assume that the P6 Pro diagram is wrong/does not represent the final product that was launched. It seems that Google needs to update it's diagram, since it refers to - probably - a pre-production model/state.
ah it is indeed a mic....
Not on the hole, but the flash emits a tiny bit of light at all times. You can see it in darkness after your eyes have adapted to it.
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Not on the hole, but the flash emits a tiny bit of light at all times. You can see it in darkness after your eyes have adapted to it.
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Only if its been activated recently. Takes a little while but it does indeed go completely dim.
That explains, I use the torch a lot before going to sleep to avoid waking anybody up.
Its one of the noise cancelling mic's isn't it?
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Its one of the noise cancelling mic's isn't it?
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Possibly under some contexts, but likely used for taking audio with videos.
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Hi,
A few weeks ago I had a broken LCD on my Desire. I've fixed that myself, it was pretty easy. First all thing looks great and I was very happy that the did the fix myself.
After a few hours I start calling people there I noticed a problem thats vey annoying. It looks the sensor for ending a phonecall is broken. Before when I ended a phonecall, the screen goes on again. Now the screen stays black. There arfe two situations.
1) when I want to end a call (for example when the called people are not at home) I can push the power button a few times, then the screen goes on and I can hang up. This is frustrating, but it works.
2) When the other side hangs the call earlier than me, I've a problem. The only way to get the screen on is to remove battery.
especially the second example makes the phone unusable. Hopefully any of you knows a solution of maybe what type of hardware is broken.
I've flashed two different ROM to the phone, in both the problem is there.
After a lot of Google searching I've found that the problems are from a broken proximity sensor.
I found a person who said that a vacuum cleaner on top of the screen will do the trick, not for me.
Can anyone describe how this sensor looks like? I've replaced my LCD, so I think done something wrong with assembling the phone again.
Today I've disabmled the phone to look at the proximity sensor. I can't find anything wrong.
I've look at the tips in this forum:
http://blog.bobpeers.com/2010/12/21/htc-desire-proximity-sensor-problem/#comment-370
Hello,
I found root cause of this problem;-)
Proximity sensor have two part- one is infra red emiter (TX), and another is IR sensor (RX). Inside arround sensor you will see glossy metal parts and little gap in plastic bariere between this two parts. Solution is: use dark isolating tape and cover glossy metal parts and fill gap between plastic and metal. After this modification all will works fine!
(Because glossy metal parts inside happends multi reflection and sensor is blinded with near IR emitter)
balki (croatia)
That comment of balki looks a lot of people saying that this is the trick, but I didn't understand what he's meaning. Can anyone help me? For example, the sensor looks like this part:
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I've cleaned the sensor and glass before the sensor, so dust isn't the problem anymore.
I've found the problem, fixed by the solution of Balki.
On this picture you can see what Balki means:
http://ordelman.org/tmp/desire_proximity_holder.png
That rubber part is mostly missing after replacing a lcd or digitizer. You can order that part at ebay, of fix it like Balki said with black tape. The holder (or tape) are there to be sure that the two parts of the sensor may not see each other.
Good find, GAEvakYD. Thanks for the details.
The scene is a picture, at night, with a single compact florescent light bulb in the background, which has a warm tint to it, and the object is a black on white bed sheet. This is my second e4gt replacement. In daylight, I don't notice any color artifacts yet. Here's an example of no flash, flash and daylight cloud. Would you return it, hoping for a "perfect" replacement or say to hell with it and keep it? It must be a hardware issue because it does the same thing with FL24 and GB27. I never noticed this from my original, bought brand new, e4gt. The first replacement, the external speaker went out. The second, the camera is making a greenish tinge, always in the center of the picture, in low light but no scene setting. When I go outside at night and put the camera into night mode, I don't notice anything abnormal so far.
Something I just noticed while playing with the settings and modes. If I leave white balance in auto or incandescent, I get the discoloration in the camera. It is less pronounced in camcorder mode. It does it in all resolutions in the camera. If I switch the white balance to florescent, everything balances out, even though it's the wrong shade. It's more orange-ish than what my eyes see. Can anyone test this and see if your original, bought new, phone does this? I tried taking the same picture with a different smartphone, all with auto settings, and it didn't experience this issue. I'm sure it could be that it's because it's a different sensor. Here's my examples.
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Try turning on Auto contrast, it fixed some odd discoloration problems for me, might work for you:beer:
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Can anyone test this and see if your original, bought new, phone does this?
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My E4GT does not do this, I tried in all different resolutions and settings and everything came out perfectly normal and as it should be. No discoloration or artifacts... I'd wager to say that you should exchange it or return it and get another one. Something is definitely not right about that first picture. Hopefully that helps. Cheers!
Did a little homework and found the camera module is replaceable. I don't remember if I read if the camera's firmware was on the mother board or on the module itself. The post I read had to do with s2's in general. I'll go Monday and see if the service center will order me a new camera module.
I received mine early, next day delivery.
The phone works great, except for the camera. It has issues auto-focusing. If I double tap the home the camera remains unfocused for a lengthy period of time. Sometimes it will remain unfocused. Doesn't matter whether it's attempting to focus near or far, set to auto or selective focus mode, or opening from lock screen or camera app.
Did you remove the plastic?
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Did you remove the plastic?
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I LOL'd then realized I haven't taken mine off either, yet.
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Wow, I feel like an idiot.
I didn't realize there was a small bit of plastic attached to it.
It would explain why the focus worked when I "cleaned" the lens.
Also realized there are 2 pieces of plastic, on both the flash and the lens.
The plastic on the camrea doesnt cover the lense, so what the point of removing?
I made a post on this in the main S6/Edge section. I'll make it in here too. Be careful not scratching the lens or flash. The flash one is very hard to get off. Stupid Samsung doesn't put tabs on them so it would be easier to pull off.
You don't have to pull them off but I like to since maybe it's causing a glare.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3075187
I have a faint white line next to the tower. Not sure if it's because of the protectors.
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So I removed both covers, and it's helped some, but the auto-focus is still a little slow.
Here's the screwed up part, if I pick up the phone while facing screen side up and then double tap the home, the auto-focus is sluggish (takes 2-5 seconds to focus)
If I leave the phone screen side down and then flip it up, double tap home for the quick cam, the auto-focus is quicker (camera is already focused by the time the screen activates).
If I flip the camera screen side down while it's having trouble focusing, the focus may catch and actually work.
I don't think this is normal.
Hi Team XDA,
My first post... hope it's in the correct board, please be gentle ?
I've just replaced the near-dead battery in my M8. The amount of tape and glue surprised me, but I got there in the end with a heat gun, razor blade and spudger, oh and a new display after the original cracked on the way out. It's been a learning process!
All went back together nicely and my M8 now holds a good charge.
The problem:
No audio at all via the top (earpiece) speaker. As a workaround I can select speaker phone which uses the bottom speaker, but that's not ideal.
Solutions tried so far:
Factory reset.
New speaker installed. I struggled to work out which way round this went, after foolishly failing to note the orientation when I removed it, but think I've got it correctly aligned.
Suspected issue:
When I first opened the case, one of the small gold spring contacts (earthing fingers?) fell out.
I can see where this has come from. It's from the daughterboard, on the opposite side, but close to where the speaker makes contact. In the picture below it's the left-right mounted gold contact on the right side of the board, just above the square hole.
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Another photo showing the reverse side of the PCB, with the speaker contact points top left, either side of the 2 cutouts.
Photo of replacement speaker.
I'm thinking of re-attaching the gold spring contact with conductive epoxy. If that's doesn't work, I was going to try another new speaker as they're fairly cheap and easy to come by.
Any thoughts from you guys? Any suggestions greatly received, thanks.
New speaker fitted, spring / earth contact reattached.
Both channels working... until I put the metal case back on, then the fault returned, no left (top) audio. Opened up again, can't get the top speaker to work.
I tried a voice call using the hands free set that came with the phone. Detects ok when plugged in, but no mic function, the other side can't hear me.
In to the "spares" drawer it goes.
Anyone else hear a slight rattle when picking up or tilting phone? I have the T-mobile Ultra and I noticed this today as soon as I opened it. When I activate the camera and do the same gestures I do not hear the sound. Once I heard it I can't un hear it. I will try to record the sound in a bit.
Recorded it but can't post link.
linksharing.samsungcloudDOTcom/GWL84K4gvRrN
I've had what sounds like a peice rattling when shaking it. Not sure if it's the cameras or a loud accelerometer.
Too me it sounds like loose buttons. I can hear it when I shake mine too.
I think it could be the camera. When I turn it on and shake I don't hear it. I hope its "normal". I shook my old note 9 and note 10 plus and they don't make that sound.
It's the camera modules turn on the camera and shake it see if it disappears.
Wont it just be the camera shutters opening?
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My device rattles weirdly when first vibrate hits, when you shake your phone it's normal to hear noise from camera because of camera OIS but that vibration sound drives me crazy ! i thought I had faulty device but many many users have that issue, my s10+ and note 8 had that sound too, check if you can and answer me dial star#0star# and tap vibration if you hear that strange rattle noice...
It shoud be the OIS of the camera. Same here, when you use your main camera, you cant hear anymore, but the selfie cam you can still here it.
There are decent sized cameras in these phones now with shutters, we dont shake digital cameras and we shouldn't be shaking mobile phones imo. Treat them with care, mechanical shutters are delicate things
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This is the physical stabilization, don´t panic
There are no physical shutters in smart phones. The camera module is quite durable, even the so-called periscope camera. It can take quite a bit of gs in shock as shown by drop tests that destroy the front and back glass, the camera still works flawlessly.
The noise/rattle you are hearing is from the module(s) that feature optical image stabilization (OIS). These have elements that can move freely when the camera app is not running. It is perfectly normal and part of the design and is not a defect.
Glad I'm not the only one with this problem... Although the sound drives me crazy! But I also don't remember it making that noise when I first opened the box... Might still try to contact Samsung support and see what they have to say... Have you had any luck with yours?
I think it is probably more audible on the ultra than the other S20 series devices because the stabilisation on the zoom has 2 separate pieces that are suspended by electromagnet coils - check teardowns, there is the 90 degree prism, and also some other optical 'barrel' in the centre that moves back and forth as part of the focusing mechanism. (basically lots of moving parts for a smartphone lens.. and the device cant be powering the magnets all the time as it would be major battery drain).
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Starting to think none of the you guys hang out on the Samsung s20 Community Forum. Or you would know this is normal. It's been discussed in at least 10 different threads. Enjoy the Phone and stop freaking out over stupid ****! lol geeze.
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Glad I'm not the only one with this problem... Although the sound drives me crazy! But I also don't remember it making that noise when I first opened the box... Might still try to contact Samsung support and see what they have to say... Have you had any luck with yours?
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its normal the one you are hearing is coming from Optical image stabilization sensor dont shake it otherwise you may break something on your camera.