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I am running stock att Kk rooted. My phone deep sleeps like a baby but when I get on my phone I can watch the battery drain. When I look at the battery graph under battery I can see sleep straight line across then when I get on the phone it goes straight down almost. I could be on it for 20min and it will go down like 8%
I was wondering if it could just be my battery cause I am having problems on all roms. Plus I have Flashed this phone about 30 times and I have had it for over a year
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(Forgive the wordiness. I have a typing problem LOL)
I have an E980 too and was using the E980 stock ATT rom and also had issues.
Basically, the phone will work fine for a couple of hours after a reboot, but then all of a sudden, the phone would wake up (exit deep sleep; not screen turn on) and never sleep again.
Whenever this would happen I noticed a number of odd things happening (check to see if these are happening with you too!):
1) In battery usage, Android OS would suddenly consume 50-99% battery!! This is after hours of running the phone too. Usually, Android OS consumes 3-10% battery.
2) In Better Battery Stats, I had a lot of Wlan wakelocks. I use wifi a lot too, but these wakelocks would last for hours as soon as the phone stopped sleeping, whether wifi was connected or not.
3) In Better Battery Stats, there was a process called dhd_dpc that would run for the entire length of time since the phone was booted up
4) Phone would run warm with the screen off. Sometimes, it would get HOT. When you use the phone, it gets REALLY HOT.
5) According to Better Battery Stat's CPU usage history, once the wake occurs, the cpu will remain at 1.7GHz, even with phone asleep. Some roms I tried would have it scale down to 384MHz, but still, phone wouldn't enter Deep Sleep.
I tried everything to fix the issues and finally ended up flashing the E988 Hong Kong (I think) ROM and ALL my problems went away. The ROM works, but isn't designed for USA users. Yes, there's English, etc, but things like the Quick Remote app are meant for Chinese (Again, I think) users. It doesn't have USA cable company set top boxes like Verizon, etc.
Anyway, after having issues every single day since the E980 update, but lasting a full day on the E988 rom problem free (It's now been 2 full days and no issues still!!!!!), I realized that there was a problem greater than "User Error." I called AT&T up, dealt with their troubleshooting bullcrap (factory reset doesn't fix everything! I mean, I did it 4 times this week and the problem kept coming back with no apps installed!!! I didn't tell them this, but I also reflashed the ATT rom 3x too!!!!), and then they simply took a bug report and asked me to contact LG. I stumped them.
So then I called LG and after explaining all my symptoms and again dealing with me having to answer "yes" to all the girl's "Have you done this....?" questions, she put me on hold for a moment. She came back and told me that many issues have been reported by AT&T Optimus G Pro users (E980) and their software development team is already working on a new firmware version for our phone.
So in summary, the issue is due to bugs in the E980 firmware, but not in the other G Pro firmwares. According to LG customer support, they are already working on fixing the problems, but the girl didn't give me an ETA. Once LG finishes the fix, AT&T will have to review it and bloat the crap out of too, so it may take anywhere from a week to a few months before we get the fixed firmware.
Until then, you have two choices:
1) Live with it and pray that the next firmware comes sooner rather than later. I mean, they better be rushing this update!!!!!
2) Install the E988 stock firmware for now and use it until the next firmware comes out. Again, it isn't exactly the same as the E980 version, but it works and your phone won't be sick anymore.

spexwood said:
(Forgive the wordiness. I have a typing problem LOL)
I have an E980 too and was using the E980 stock ATT rom and also had issues.
Basically, the phone will work fine for a couple of hours after a reboot, but then all of a sudden, the phone would wake up (exit deep sleep; not screen turn on) and never sleep again.
Whenever this would happen I noticed a number of odd things happening (check to see if these are happening with you too!):
1) In battery usage, Android OS would suddenly consume 50-99% battery!! This is after hours of running the phone too. Usually, Android OS consumes 3-10% battery.
2) In Better Battery Stats, I had a lot of Wlan wakelocks. I use wifi a lot too, but these wakelocks would last for hours as soon as the phone stopped sleeping, whether wifi was connected or not.
3) In Better Battery Stats, there was a process called dhd_dpc that would run for the entire length of time since the phone was booted up
4) Phone would run warm with the screen off. Sometimes, it would get HOT. When you use the phone, it gets REALLY HOT.
5) According to Better Battery Stat's CPU usage history, once the wake occurs, the cpu will remain at 1.7GHz, even with phone asleep. Some roms I tried would have it scale down to 384MHz, but still, phone wouldn't enter Deep Sleep.
I tried everything to fix the issues and finally ended up flashing the E988 Hong Kong (I think) ROM and ALL my problems went away. The ROM works, but isn't designed for USA users. Yes, there's English, etc, but things like the Quick Remote app are meant for Chinese (Again, I think) users. It doesn't have USA cable company set top boxes like Verizon, etc.
Anyway, after having issues every single day since the E980 update, but lasting a full day on the E988 rom problem free (It's now been 2 full days and no issues still!!!!!), I realized that there was a problem greater than "User Error." I called AT&T up, dealt with their troubleshooting bullcrap (factory reset doesn't fix everything! I mean, I did it 4 times this week and the problem kept coming back with no apps installed!!! I didn't tell them this, but I also reflashed the ATT rom 3x too!!!!), and then they simply took a bug report and asked me to contact LG. I stumped them.
So then I called LG and after explaining all my symptoms and again dealing with me having to answer "yes" to all the girl's "Have you done this....?" questions, she put me on hold for a moment. She came back and told me that many issues have been reported by AT&T Optimus G Pro users (E980) and their software development team is already working on a new firmware version for our phone.
So in summary, the issue is due to bugs in the E980 firmware, but not in the other G Pro firmwares. According to LG customer support, they are already working on fixing the problems, but the girl didn't give me an ETA. Once LG finishes the fix, AT&T will have to review it and bloat the crap out of too, so it may take anywhere from a week to a few months before we get the fixed firmware.
Until then, you have two choices:
1) Live with it and pray that the next firmware comes sooner rather than later. I mean, they better be rushing this update!!!!!
2) Install the E988 stock firmware for now and use it until the next firmware comes out. Again, it isn't exactly the same as the E980 version, but it works and your phone won't be sick anymore.
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id be shocked if we got anymore updates from lg.

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id be shocked if we got anymore updates from lg.
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This came from LG itself. Yeah, it was the customer service, but it was LG too. When the customer service tells you this kind of thing, it's usually true since it says it on their troubleshooting computer prompt.
Plus this isn't an update just in the sake of updating (like going from Jelly Bean to Kitkat), but an update to fix their pretty serious mistakes. They'd be extremely stupid to leave the firmware as it is now since it's currently broken. The KK update broke not only the AT&T OGP, but also every LG phone sold by a US mobile carrier. This includes the AT&T G2 and Verizon G2 as well.
EDIT: Actually, I was wrong. The G2 already received updates to fix issues. If they get updates to fix broken software, I'm sure we will too.
If they left the update as-is, they'd risk pissing off any current customers and driving away any future ones. In fact, they'd risk losing their entire US market. So I'm certain they'll release a "fix" update soon. I know LG has a bad update track record, but as far as I know, the firmwares they leave on their phones at least work. This is different. Nothing works correctly, and they would want to fix it.
EDIT: BTW, if you're using the E988, then yeah, any further updates may not happen. That firmware at least works.

LG G3 Severe annoyances

Hi all, this is my first post here, just thought I would share my experiences with the LG G3 (D855)
...probably the worst phone I have ever owned, so far I have had the Nexus one, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 and a Nexus 5. My nexus 5 got destroyed at work, so took this as an opportunity to upgrade, but didn't want the Nexus 6 due to its size.
Now, where to start with the G3...
Signal- it is unbelievably bad, going from the Nexus where signal was nearly full in my room to barely getting any now. It is impossible to make calls or browse the net with the phone unless connected to the WiFi, I could download on H+ at about 1.2 mB a second, where as the G3 will barely refresh Facebook. My phone gets used at work quite a bit, but the signal isn't the strongest- however, all phones worked there to make call, apart from this one
Keyboard- Who the hell designs a keyboard without the comma on the front of it without having to go into a menu? This is where you tell me to install another one, but seriously?
Battery- yes I can understand it is a big screen etc, but for 3000 mAh it a atrocious.
Airplane mode- yes I know what it does, why the hell does it tell me every time I select it.
McAfee- we have a play store, I am not a chump and don't download from unknown sources, give the option to remove it.
Vibrate- yes it is harsh, but I work in a noisy environment, I need a strong vibrate function, however, one thing I DO NOT NEED is for it to vibrate in my ear when someone texts/whatsapps me during a call. This makes hearing the other person impossible, they can even hear it on the other end of the phone. I see no way of dulling the vibrate but only when in a call?
-Camera lag
-OS lag (Severe)
Yes, they have wowed their customers with a qhd display, but seriously, they need to start spending money on where it matters like antenna research. After a quick Google, it turns out to be a huge problem with this phone. Not just mine personally.
I am returning this phone after 18 hours of having it. Sorry LG, but they have lost me as a customer.
Dave

Looking for your previous phones I still think this "lag" is a placebo.
Came from a GNex and I must say that LG G3 does NOT lags.

Thank you for your judgment on how I percieve lag, my last phone was a Nexus 5 with CM, it did NOT have lag. This phone does.
UPDATE
Ok, after doing some more reading up, I decided to give the phone a bit more of a chance. I was headed on a 60 mile drive with my brother to see my family this Christmas. Before I left, I gave it a factory reset just to make sure I started with a clean slate.
Anyway headed on my way, 85% battery, I sent a friend a whatsapp message that would sit there ready to send and then go when I got signal. 40 miles traveled, checking very often here and there and it still hadn't sent. The battery had dropped to 25% in this time. Rather than waste any more time or battery in the hope that it would eventually get signal, I put airplane mode on. Guess what, I know what airplane mode does, because it told me AGAIN.
Now, I know this journey well, I know where I get signal and where I don't. All previous phones would have worked numerous places where the G3 didn't.
Oddly, instead of getting signal in some of the places around home where it should definately get it, the phone just constantly displayed roaming and wouldn't allow data. This happens with the Three network from time to time, but always happens in certain places where the network isnt available and allows voice calls only, not at home where there IS reception.
UPDATE
Just discovered that the stock charger cannot supply enough current to use the phone at the same time as charging. This phone is just brilliant...

DavidVanstone said:
Hi all, this is my first post here, just thought I would share my experiences with the LG G3 (D855)
Keyboard- Who the hell designs a keyboard without the comma on the front of it without having to go into a menu? This is where you tell me to install another one, but seriously?
-OS lag (Severe)
Dave
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I understand you are about to return it already, this is more for people who is experiencing your issues.
The 2 issues above can be solved:
-Keyboard: it is configurable. Settings-> Language and input-> Lg Keyboard-> Keyboard height and layout-> Bottom row keys.
-OS lag: I got the phone 2 days ago and I was quite pissed off about the touch panel lag. The issue was the Touch zoom in my case. Go to Settings-> General-> Accessibility and disable Touch zoom.
DavidVanstone said:
UPDATE
Just discovered that the stock charger cannot supply enough current to use the phone at the same time as charging. This phone is just brilliant...
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I am not sure what do you mean here. I used the phone for a couple of hours yesterday from 0% battery to ~30% while charging.
I hope this helps.
R.

Ok thank you, installed the google keyboard for now, used to it so feel at hone
I can live with all the issues (as I would most probably ROM it if I kept it anyway) but cannot abide the very very poor signal and the charging. It is currently on charge and has dropped 2% in the time I have written this. Screen brightness is on its lowest.
Have raised an RMA, just waiting to hear back. It is such a shame, it has its good points, love the screen, volume isn't as bad as most make out. Just a lot of other issues (mainly software) that seriously need to be addressed.

Did i just read you complaining about LAG comparing the LG OS with a nexus 5 that was on ****ing CYANOGEN?!
Well just install CYANOGEN on your G3 and be done with it....

Pacote-san said:
Did i just read you complaining about LAG comparing the LG OS with a nexus 5 that was on ****ing CYANOGEN?!
Well just install CYANOGEN on your G3 and be done with it....
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And that will cure my hardware signal issues will it? I think not.

UPDATE
Tried three different chargers tonight, none of which make any difference to its inability to be charging while being used. It just keeps slowly running out.

Yeah I just upgraded from a Nokia Lumia 1020 today, and I have to admit...I am unimpressed. This thing is, on paper, WAY more powerful, so why the hell is it so. goddamn. LAGGY?

The lag, I can live with, as said, if I was keeping it I woukd probably ROM it anyway.
The thing is there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed, and with us all being techy types we could sort most of the issues with some modding, but here is my question, what does the average end user do with the problems? Accept them? Talk to LG and get told that the phone should vibrate like that when getting a notification during a call? Get told that the signal issues are because of the carrier. Get told that the reason their batteriy is going flat is because of apps they have installed? When after all this it is a combination of bad software and hardware that lets this phone down, no one else's fault.
UPDATE
Battery full notification, during writing this, every time I paused for a few seconds the phone vibrated, left a notification and bleeped to tell me the battery was full- this gets highly ***king annoying after a while, can this be turned off?!
Oh, here is the graph of the battery during my drive yesterday that I explained about. The drop is when the phone was looking for signal duringn the journey.
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You can see at the -5 and -3 hour mark where I put the phone on charge, a small spike in the graph, then immediately while being used, the level continued to drop with it still plugged in.

Yeah, the average user is pretty much ****ed. Thing is, there is NO excuse for it. If Microsoft, the former king of bloat, can make a smooth, fast, stable operating system that flies even on low end hardware, why can't Google make it fly on high end hardware? Why can't LG?
I will keep experimenting with Roms, but right now it's very likely I'll return this and go back to a Windows phone.
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jasongw said:
Yeah, the average user is pretty much ****ed. Thing is, there is NO excuse for it. If Microsoft, the former king of bloat, can make a smooth, fast, stable operating system that flies even on low end hardware, why can't Google make it fly on high end hardware? Why can't LG?
I will keep experimenting with Roms, but right now it's very likely I'll return this and go back to a Windows phone.
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It is such a shame, the phone does have some good bits going for it, but I am definately returning mine, the RMA has been raised with Ebuyer, just waiting to hear back.
I would have rommed it, but seeing as it's going back I couldn't be doing with the hassle of doing it and putting it back to stock again. Also, not being able to utilise the 4k and other camera features in aosp. Maybe someone can sort that, but either way, a phone not being able to get signal is a big problem for me and for some reason this issue seems to be getting more and more common nowadays (why is this?).
A quick question, which smartphones ACTUALLY have good signal? Once this one has gone, I'll be looking for another phone.

I just bought my G3 Monday, switched from an iPhone 6. The stock rom was slow.
Today rooted and installed Candy5. This phone is a beast. I haven't had one thing today phase this.
You can't compare CM to stock.
Works very well paired the Lg w110 watch.
Also this phone has much much better coverage then my iPhone and has the same that my Note 2 had.
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Better luck on MTK phone with out-of-the-box 9.0?

I've read a lot about certain MTK phones having a number of issues running GSI Roms. In addition, I've read a decent amount about the changes in treble implementation for phones released with 9.0 as opposed to 8.0 or 8.1. I'm debating getting the Umidigi F1 and am wondering if there is any reason to be hopeful that it may be more successful running GSI roms than previous phones? I'm on T-Mobile and bands 2/4/12 are very solid in my area with band 71 still a ways out. As a result, I really like the hardware for the price point, but given reviews for their other phones as well as Umidigi's history, I don't really have much of an interest running the phone with its stock software. Assuming it's not going to have a development community, I thought I'd throw it out those far more knowledgeable on the technology and ask if I could reasonably hope for it to be fully functional on a stock GSI?
Thanks

We have the phone rooted (though only on Magisk 17.3, help @topjohnwu?). The stock software is not super but also not completely terrible. The most offensive thing about it to me is the Google bloatware, ironically. It's missing the Pie gesture navigation, but it does have a decent navbar implementation and a passable if a little outdated gesture navigation system with a few decent options, all involving a swipe up. It's not too bad, and can be extended further with some Play Store apps. I mean, it's basically the typical "pretty much AOSP, but with a couple odd MediaTek tweaks" that I've come to expect from western targeted MediaTek devices from manufacturers like BLU. The Fingerprint sensor is pretty bad. I can only hope UMIDIGI will make it better with software updates. I find it's usable after you get used to it, and it gets used to you, but still occasionally annoyingly inaccurate, and not super duper fast at that (actually passing a fingerprint test is very fast on the off chance it works the first time but unlocking takes a sec). These would basically be my major gripes with buying one at this time.
I haven't really tried getting anything with Treble running, but we do have a TWRP that supports it (though I will openly admit it's kinda shady).
Check out UMIDIGI's forums. They let people talk about rooting their phones in the device sections, and even post guides for how to do it themselves, lol.
EDIT: It's probably also worth noting that UMIDIGI will probably never attempt to lock this phone down in any way. It having shady Chinese firmware is a blessing because for the most part, no matter how hard you brick the phone, you can use MediaTek's SP Flash Tool to unbrick it, and unlike BLU, UMIDIGI probably will never take that away. To be fair, that also comes with certain security risks, because not only is the bootloader easily unlockable (in a somewhat Nexus-like fashion with fastboot), I don't think it actually verifies the boot signatures even if the bootloader is locked. Fastboot won't let you flash anything but you can use SP Flash Tools to bypass that and flash unsigned software anyway. Personally I would still unlock the bootloader anyway. Even though it extends the boot time by five seconds, it allows you to use standard Android platform tools for your usual, non debricking activities, because I don't like MediaTek's much.

Thanks for all the insight on the phone. Your observations seem to echo a lot of what I have seen written about their products in general of late. It should essentially be a stock experience, as they advertise their OS as such, but their version of "stock" seems to come with it's own set of quirks that can be frustrating. In addition, they seem to do a poor job of writing software that lives up to the hardware, as exhibited by your fingerprint experience or some of the things I've read about their camera software. All of the little minor issues are why I was hoping it could run a Pie GSI with fewer hangups on account of it being released with 9.0. Admittedly, I don't know much about the details, just read enough to be optimistic about the newer phones playing a little nicer with GSI roms.
I did notice that it had an unofficial TWRP version for the phone. I may take a shot at it and hope for a little development or successful GSI experience down the road. It is nice knowing that your stock experience isn't terrible, though. I've read some horror stories about previous Umidigi phones and hopefully that is no longer the case with their newer releases.
Thanks again for the thoughts.
ColtonDRG said:
We have the phone rooted (though only on Magisk 17.3, help @topjohnwu?). The stock software is not super but also not completely terrible. The most offensive thing about it to me is the Google bloatware, ironically. It's missing the Pie gesture navigation, but it does have a decent navbar implementation and a passable if a little outdated gesture navigation system with a few decent options, all involving a swipe up. It's not too bad, and can be extended further with some Play Store apps. I mean, it's basically the typical "pretty much AOSP, but with a couple odd MediaTek tweaks" that I've come to expect from western targeted MediaTek devices from manufacturers like BLU. The Fingerprint sensor is pretty bad. I can only hope UMIDIGI will make it better with software updates. I find it's usable after you get used to it, and it gets used to you, but still occasionally annoyingly inaccurate, and not super duper fast at that (actually passing a fingerprint test is very fast on the off chance it works the first time but unlocking takes a sec). These would basically be my major gripes with buying one at this time.
I haven't really tried getting anything with Treble running, but we do have a TWRP that supports it (though I will openly admit it's kinda shady).
Check out UMIDIGI's forums. They let people talk about rooting their phones in the device sections, and even post guides for how to do it themselves, lol.
EDIT: It's probably also worth noting that UMIDIGI will probably never attempt to lock this phone down in any way. It having shady Chinese firmware is a blessing because for the most part, no matter how hard you brick the phone, you can use MediaTek's SP Flash Tool to unbrick it, and unlike BLU, UMIDIGI probably will never take that away. To be fair, that also comes with certain security risks, because not only is the bootloader easily unlockable (in a somewhat Nexus-like fashion with fastboot), I don't think it actually verifies the boot signatures even if the bootloader is locked. Fastboot won't let you flash anything but you can use SP Flash Tools to bypass that and flash unsigned software anyway. Personally I would still unlock the bootloader anyway. Even though it extends the boot time by five seconds, it allows you to use standard Android platform tools for your usual, non debricking activities, because I don't like MediaTek's much.
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teeterteeter said:
Thanks for all the insight on the phone. Your observations seem to echo a lot of what I have seen written about their products in general of late. It should essentially be a stock experience, as they advertise their OS as such, but their version of "stock" seems to come with it's own set of quirks that can be frustrating. In addition, they seem to do a poor job of writing software that lives up to the hardware, as exhibited by your fingerprint experience or some of the things I've read about their camera software. All of the little minor issues are why I was hoping it could run a Pie GSI with fewer hangups on account of it being released with 9.0. Admittedly, I don't know much about the details, just read enough to be optimistic about the newer phones playing a little nicer with GSI roms.
I did notice that it had an unofficial TWRP version for the phone. I may take a shot at it and hope for a little development or successful GSI experience down the road. It is nice knowing that your stock experience isn't terrible, though. I've read some horror stories about previous Umidigi phones and hopefully that is no longer the case with their newer releases.
Thanks again for the thoughts.
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I mostly bought the phone for the excellent North American band support, it's one of the few cheaper Chinese phones that do. I'm a fan of Xiaomi's products but band support is typically pretty limited unless you pick up the really high end ones. My biggest gripe with TWRP right now is that USB doesn't work which means you have to transfer all your zips to a microSD card since internal storage is borked thanks to forceencrypt, which we can disable now. I don't mess with the camera too much, typically, but the app itself looks pretty basic. It again reminds me of the usual stuff you would get on MTK phones, there aren't a whole lot of options but the ones that are there look OK-ish? Idk, again, I don't take many pictures. This morning I tried to flash a GSI and my phone just started bootlooping but I didn't follow the procedure at all so I probably missed a step. I will try some more in the future and let you know.

The band support was the biggest reason I was looking at the phone as well. There are certainly a ton of cool, unique new phones coming out that lack the necessary bands in the US.
Thanks again for sharing all the first-hand experience with the phone. You certainly don't need to go out of your way to flash any roms, but it would be cool to hear if you run into something that works well for you in the future.
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I mostly bought the phone for the excellent North American band support, it's one of the few cheaper Chinese phones that do. I'm a fan of Xiaomi's products but band support is typically pretty limited unless you pick up the really high end ones. My biggest gripe with TWRP right now is that USB doesn't work which means you have to transfer all your zips to a microSD card since internal storage is borked thanks to forceencrypt, which we can disable now. I don't mess with the camera too much, typically, but the app itself looks pretty basic. It again reminds me of the usual stuff you would get on MTK phones, there aren't a whole lot of options but the ones that are there look OK-ish? Idk, again, I don't take many pictures. This morning I tried to flash a GSI and my phone just started bootlooping but I didn't follow the procedure at all so I probably missed a step. I will try some more in the future and let you know.
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Mmm I think I did a bad thing with my F1. I actually tried to flash a ROM via fastboot (PowerShell) and it failed. I was able to successfully restore it, but upon doing so I now have red text in the upper right of the screen. Everything else seems to be fine, though! I even followed a tutorial to restore IMEIs 1+2 and MEID.
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EDIT: Actually solved now. Bencebacsi on the UMIDIGI forums posted a special version of the SN Writer tool that addresses this.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsqLR2yZd3fMiO9GKQIRNhiplqVcNA
I not only got root, but customized it to look the way I want. I also experimented in removing Umidigi's Quickstep system app; I succeeded. Initially, it kept bringing up a prompt indicating an instability, but after a reboot it hasn't appeared again. A side effect of this is that my Recent Apps view is now stacked vertically with the pseudo 3D look like it used to be in Android; apps are dismissed by swiping to the left or right.
I'm only sad that I can't adjust the display size.

Veiran said:
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I not only got root, but customized it to look the way I want. I also experimented in removing Umidigi's Quickstep system app; I succeeded. Initially, it kept bringing up a prompt indicating an instability, but after a reboot it hasn't appeared again. A side effect of this is that my Recent Apps view is now stacked vertically with the pseudo 3D look like it used to be in Android; apps are dismissed by swiping to the left or right.
I'm only sad that I can't adjust the display size.
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How did you get substratum working? Mine is broken...

mrram said:
How did you get substratum working? Mine is broken...
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If you have it loaded and granted SU, it's just a matter of downloading a good theme and applying it in the correct fashion.
Starting off with Building and Updating. Select the right apps/services in the Themes tab to enable it for; some are going to be incompatible and you'll receive an error if you try to do so. Once you've got the proper ones selected, there's that button on the bottom right which opens four options. Press the Build & Update one. If everything goes well, it won't return errors.
Next, you'll restart your phone and reopen Substratum. Go to the Manager tab, select the apps/services that should show up here, then go to the bottom-right button and press Enable selected. The screen should blink as substratum enables it.

I have the umi one pro it has booted every P ,Q gsi ever made

bzo22 said:
I have the umi one pro it has booted every P ,Q gsi ever made
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Any major bugs? Did NFC worked well?

I have a Umidigi one pro too and I can't root, and the notch in landscape on cutout. But the big problem is the root. All the other things go good with a minor bugs. I'm refer to pie.

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Any major bugs? Did NFC worked well?
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NFC doesn't work in any build I've flashed
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Botandroid said:
I have a Umidigi one pro too and I can't root, and the notch in landscape on cutout. But the big problem is the root. All the other things go good with a minor bugs. I'm refer to pie.
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You should flashed asop v112 gsi it come with gapps and root

bzo22 said:
NFC doesn't work in any build I've flashed
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Maybe on F1 it's different? I'm using it btw, not the One Pro!

Botandroid said:
I have a Umidigi one pro too and I can't root, and the notch in landscape on cutout. But the big problem is the root. All the other things go good with a minor bugs. I'm refer to pie.
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Use Magisk 17.1/17.2 it's the best for pie roms
Btw can we get miui/flymeOs/colorOs rom on our device?? I'm using Umi one pro too and I love those roms than aosp roms

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I have a Umidigi one pro too and I can't root, and the notch in landscape on cutout. ...
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I flashed phhusson v204 (Android 10) on the One Pro. Is there any chance to get the wide notch considered ? Would the Android9 fix work ?

Question Do I have no option but to wait for 168 hours (7 days) to unlock my phone's bootloader?

Hi all, I just received my brand new POCO F3 phone today and I was hoping to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM. But when I tried to do that I got this message in the miui unlock software saying that I have to wait for 168 hours (7 days) and try again!
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Do I have to wait for that much time or is there a quicker way to do this? And if I do wait and try again will it again complain 7 days later that I need to wait for more time? Please let me know.
And also, do I have to use my phone regularly in that 7 days or if I just leave it turned on is that good enough? Please let me know what to do. And thanks in advance!

No other way... Can only wait
Just leave your phone on, and leave it 1 side. And do not click on add account and device option again else your 168 hours countdown will reset

I see. Okay, I will just wait for 7 days then. It is such a bummer! I wish Xiaomi did not do this so that users can mod their phones right away. But it is just 7 days. So I will learn to be patient!

Is it necessary to unlock bootloader right after 7 days, or I can request to unlock now and actually unlock the bootloader after two or three months after?

spaha-bih said:
Is it necessary to unlock bootloader right after 7 days, or I can request to unlock now and actually unlock the bootloader after two or three months after?
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Yes u can always unlock any time u like after 7 days. So when i got the phone, i request to unlock right away, and use the phone first. My first unlock is only 1 month later

spaha-bih said:
Is it necessary to unlock bootloader right after 7 days, or I can request to unlock now and actually unlock the bootloader after two or three months after?
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You can unlock any time, but not sooner than 7 days. If you try sooner the 7 day countdown will start again. better try a day or two later than 5 minutes earlier

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You can unlock any time, but not sooner than 7 days. If you try sooner the 7 day countdown will start again. better try a day or two later than 5 minutes earlier
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Oh boy, I see I did not explained well, glad keyoke87 understood what I asked haha
basically what I asked is do I need to unlock right after that 7 days of waiting, or I can unlock later whenever I want.
I thought if I don`t unlock the bootloader right after 7 days, xiaomi will reset again countdown.
Anyway, I`ll have to wait for september to unlock the bootloader, since I have already unlocked it for Redmi Note 9s. A bit unnecessary from Xiaomi`s side, but it`s okay, I am waiting for Android 12 custom roms anyway.

Zimmster said:
You can unlock any time, but not sooner than 7 days. If you try sooner the 7 day countdown will start again. better try a day or two later than 5 minutes earlier
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The Countdown do not reset if you try sooner. It reset only when you remove and add a Xiaomi account.
When you try sooner, the mi unlock tool says the amount of hours remaining to wait.

Kokovitch said:
The Countdown do not reset if you try sooner. It reset only when you remove and add a Xiaomi account.
When you try sooner, the mi unlock tool says the amount of hours remaining to wait.
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If u press add account and device with the same xiaomi account, it resets too

Kokovitch said:
The Countdown do not reset if you try sooner. It reset only when you remove and add a Xiaomi account.
When you try sooner, the mi unlock tool says the amount of hours remaining to wait.
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Exactly confirmed, as my countdown continued I tried dozens of times (maybe Xiaomi would give me a discount ahahahah) and the count never reset.

litetaker said:
I see. Okay, I will just wait for 7 days then. It is such a bummer! I wish Xiaomi did not do this so that users can mod their phones right away. But it is just 7 days. So I will learn to be patient!
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Their priority is to convince you to continue to use their MIUI OS, so they can upsell you some of their online services and use your data for statistics and advertising. If you do not use their software, they stop making money off you. It's just in their best interest to make you stay on MIUI. Maybe after that week your start to enjoy MIUI enough not to change it anymore.

litetaker said:
I see. Okay, I will just wait for 7 days then. It is such a bummer! I wish Xiaomi did not do this so that users can mod their phones right away. But it is just 7 days. So I will learn to be patient!
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They had to do this to counteract people that bought their Chinese phones that didn't have a global release, slapped a bad MIUI custom ROM and resold them in other countries

Darkaeluz said:
They had to do this to counteract people that bought their Chinese phones that didn't have a global release, slapped a bad MIUI custom ROM and resold them in other countries
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Yes, making you wait a week is an annoyance (especially from a business point of view) but is only a temporary delay, the Anti Rollback feature is the main tool to block you, or a vendor of Chinese version, to exchange the MIUI version on your device.

Zimmster said:
Yes, making you wait a week is an annoyance (especially from a business point of view) but is only a temporary delay, the Anti Rollback feature is the main tool to block you, or a vendor of Chinese version, to exchange the MIUI version on your device.
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nah, the main tool to block the weirdly moded custom roms are the locked edl mode on locked bootloader devices and the delay on unlocking bootloader.
back then (at least in SEA) the weirdly moded miui installed by third party distributors issue was BAD. it was widespread here and the mod were just bad user experience wise. most of them had lots of bugs (even by miui standards lol) and you couldn't update. so they started locking the bootloader and added timers, which did decrease the issue a bit.
but some were still bypassing through edl, which was especially bad and made it harder to fix since the moded rom often faked the bootloader unlock status so you couldn't unlock the device to flash an original rom, often needing you to short pins on the motherboard to bypass it through edl if i remember correctly.
the delay decreased the issue by quite a bit, but they were still bypassing it through edl, so they lock that also, which solves the issue. so i blame the third party distributors for this mess.
the anti rollback is just google tho.
back then you could apply your account to have special auth on the miui forums so you can still flash with edl and unlock the bootloader without having to wait, but i cant find any info on that now?
i know those account exist because my mi account is one of those account.

Ricky9111999 said:
nah, the main tool to block the weirdly moded custom roms are the locked edl mode on locked bootloader devices and the delay on unlocking bootloader.
back then (at least in SEA) the weirdly moded miui installed by third party distributors issue was BAD. it was widespread here and the mod were just bad user experience wise. most of them had lots of bugs (even by miui standards lol) and you couldn't update. so they started locking the bootloader and added timers, which did decrease the issue a bit.
but some were still bypassing through edl, which was especially bad and made it harder to fix since the moded rom often faked the bootloader unlock status so you couldn't unlock the device to flash an original rom, often needing you to short pins on the motherboard to bypass it through edl if i remember correctly.
the delay decreased the issue by quite a bit, but they were still bypassing it through edl, so they lock that also, which solves the issue. so i blame the third party distributors for this mess.
the anti rollback is just google tho.
back then you could apply your account to have special auth on the miui forums so you can still flash with edl and unlock the bootloader without having to wait, but i cant find any info on that now?
i know those account exist because my mi account is one of those account.
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I am sorry but we are getting further from the original question. "Why we have to wait 7 days or whatever, before we are allowed to unlock and/or root our phones.
You are missing the POINT, that you, the regular user, CAN UNLOCK your phone and change it's factory given software by USING A TOOL MADE BY THE SAME MANUFACTURER OF THE PHONE. MIUI unlock and MiFlash are tools released by Xiaomi oficialy, to allow users, you and me, to mess with the software also put by them, on the device. These tools are not a service only software that leaked on the internet. Xiaomi gives you the option to download these tools and easily replace their software. They discourage such action, but they do not stop you from doing so. Therefore the 7 days of waiting, meanwhile maybe you change your mind.
After you replaced their software with the preferred custom Rom, the AntiRolback future kicks in.That is what blocks you to return to official MIUI software once again. You can return to OFFICIAL STOCK MIUI but it takes more steps and it is a little more time consuming, as is with unlocking. Both processes are meant to be annoying, but in no way they are blocking you out of it, and leaving you without recourse.
If they were completely against you messing with the software then your phone will brick or permanently lose features as a punishment for Unlocking or from even trying to do so. Like in the case of the new Samsung smartphones that disable completely all the cameras if you unlock your bootloader. Some features don't come back even if you restore your phone to the original software. Yes the camera functionality returns but the Samsung security apps no longer work EVER. Or like on iPhone 12 if you don't use original parts to repair it, you lose partial functions or stops working entirely.
A mass seller of xiaomi phones will have access to EDL software or can also have a Chinese based warehouse where they initiate the unlock and by the time the phone reaches Europe or US, they can easily install the software in another warehouse before shipping them to stores/buyers.

Seven days of creating voice profiles (and more).
Other ideas are welcome.

spaha-bih said:
Oh boy, I see I did not explained well, glad keyoke87 understood what I asked haha
basically what I asked is do I need to unlock right after that 7 days of waiting, or I can unlock later whenever I want.
I thought if I don`t unlock the bootloader right after 7 days, xiaomi will reset again countdown.
Anyway, I`ll have to wait for september to unlock the bootloader, since I have already unlocked it for Redmi Note 9s. A bit unnecessary from Xiaomi`s side, but it`s okay, I am waiting for Android 12 custom roms anyway.
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I'm sorry, what part of "You can unlock ANY TIME but only after those 7 day have passed" was not easy to understand. Any time, here, means between 7 days and 1 minute and Xiaomi's bankruptcy i suppose. Thee is no time window, only a minimum waiting time

I bought this phone, with my hard-earned money, from my own pocket. Xiaomi didn't give me this free or as a gift. I don't steal anything from them. I don't owe them money. And yet this **** wasting people's time as if I rented this **** ****ing phone. Sorry my language.

galih_ken said:
I bought this phone, with my hard-earned money, from my own pocket. Xiaomi didn't give me this free or as a gift. I don't steal anything from them. I don't owe them money. And yet this **** wasting people's time as if I rented this **** ****ing phone. Sorry my language.
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oh boy wait until you hear what apple is doing

I just received my phone and received the 168 hour countdown (I was expecting 1month lol)
Anyhow, can I leave the phone powered off for the 7days?

Phone battery draining like crazy!

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I have only woken up and my battery drained like crazy. Somehow, 9GAG is the one which drained the most, I don't really care about that, I will uninstall it later if needed. The point here is that the Carrier services, Android system, Google Play services, Google Play store and Cell standby have really high usages! I have just done a factory reset yesterday and things have seem to get only worse. I used to have 500-700 mAh usage for the android system and that used to be about it. Right now, just over night, I have something almost twice as consuming! If I were to continue the day without having the need to recharge right now, everything would have been around 2000-3000 mAh just for the "system/needed apps" in order for the device to run. I do not find this thing normal. Can anyone please help me?

Mobile data drains battery like crazy...

There's factors that can affect the endurance of your phone's battery. These factors may be caused by a malfunction in your phone, or there's simply a global issue that may be affecting the devices in your area.
LTE does use more battery than Wi-Fi, yes. But not that lot, if everything was stable. But, you know, mobile networks are not stable, and sometimes it can struggle with the signal.
If yesterday, your phone used to last the whole day just fine, and the problem suddenly appeared, it may suggest there's an event affecting it.
Try using your phone on Wi-Fi for an hour, and compare the consumption with LTE for the same length. I suggest turning on aeroplane mode when testing the Wi-Fi.
Carrier Services should not be using that large amount of battery. The main purpose of this app is to help carriers communicate with your phone. To enable their exclusive features and so on.
I can't think of 9GAG more than Reddit, social media apps usually don't drain that much battery (TikTok is an exception). Maybe you'll wake up the next day with your phone resurrected.

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I have only woken up and my battery drained like crazy. Somehow, 9GAG is the one which drained the most, I don't really care about that, I will uninstall it later if needed. The point here is that the Carrier services, Android system, Google Play services, Google Play store and Cell standby have really high usages! I have just done a factory reset yesterday and things have seem to get only worse. I used to have 500-700 mAh usage for the android system and that used to be about it. Right now, just over night, I have something almost twice as consuming! If I were to continue the day without having the need to recharge right now, everything would have been around 2000-3000 mAh just for the "system/needed apps" in order for the device to run. I do not find this thing normal. Can anyone please help me?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85702201
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85586743
Although your signature says this: 'This was sent from my Huawei P20 Lite (nova 3e) ANE-LX1 through XDA Labs mobile app."
Are you posting in the correct forum/thread?
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Compass Linux said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85702201
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85586743
Although your signature says this: 'This was sent from my Huawei P20 Lite (nova 3e) ANE-LX1 through XDA Labs mobile app."
Are you posting in the correct forum/thread?
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Yeah.... Sorry about that, haven't used this forum in a long time and I didn't even remember that I have a signature xD. Now I do have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro, global version.

parkourz said:
Mobile data drains battery like crazy...
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Yeah.... I wouldn't expect it to get over 1000 mAh just from the Google services... More like 100-300..

parkourz said:
Mobile data drains battery like crazy...
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Also, isn't that getting "counted" in the cell standby thing?

Mohamedkam000 said:
There's factors that can affect the endurance of your phone's battery. These factors may be caused by a malfunction in your phone, or there's simply a global issue that may be affecting the devices in your area.
LTE does use more battery than Wi-Fi, yes. But not that lot, if everything was stable. But, you know, mobile networks are not stable, and sometimes it can struggle with the signal.
If yesterday, your phone used to last the whole day just fine, and the problem suddenly appeared, it may suggest there's an event affecting it.
Try using your phone on Wi-Fi for an hour, and compare the consumption with LTE for the same length. I suggest turning on aeroplane mode when testing the Wi-Fi.
Carrier Services should not be using that large amount of battery. The main purpose of this app is to help carriers communicate with your phone. To enable their exclusive features and so on.
I can't think of 9GAG more than Reddit, social media apps usually don't drain that much battery (TikTok is an exception). Maybe you'll wake up the next day with your phone resurrected.
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I don't know what you mean in the last part with the resurrection but yeah, I should try doing a test and see if android system and the others calm down if I'm only on Wi-Fi. Also it's been here for a few days already and it's annoying as hell. I have a friend with the same model and he's kinda got the same problem but not that big. He only got like half of what I have. He does have a bug where the gallery app uses 800-1000 mAh if it won't force close it, but that's another thing since I do not face any issues like that.

Compass Linux said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85702201
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85586743
Although your signature says this: 'This was sent from my Huawei P20 Lite (nova 3e) ANE-LX1 through XDA Labs mobile app."
Are you posting in the correct forum/thread?
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I don't really understand what you are trying to say but if are trying to tell me that it's because of the 12.5 update, well it kinda isn't. My battery halved when I installed MIUI 12. I have debloated my phone and now the results are as following: *also 1:48 hours with 22% battery drain which is kinda impressive because if things go like this it low-key means that I can totally go for approximately 8 hours now. My phone was debloated before too but it didn't do much. Right now, I've mostly been on Wi-Fi because in the area I had to go, there isn't really any 4G/signal. It's either thanks to not using mobile data, which I did use for like 1/4 of the usage time until now, either to debloating it.*

ImTheRealMarco said:
Yeah.... Sorry about that, haven't used this forum in a long time and I didn't even remember that I have a signature xD. Now I do have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro, global version.
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Welcome to the club!
ImTheRealMarco said:
I don't really understand what you are trying to say but if are trying to tell me that it's because of the 12.5 update, well it kinda isn't. My battery halved when I installed MIUI 12. I have debloated my phone and now the results are as following: *also 1:48 hours with 22% battery drain which is kinda impressive because if things go like this it low-key means that I can totally go for approximately 8 hours now. My phone was debloated before too but it didn't do much. Right now, I've mostly been on Wi-Fi because in the area I had to go, there isn't really any 4G/signal. It's either thanks to not using mobile data, which I did use for like 1/4 of the usage time until now, either to debloating it.*
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MIUI 12.5.x for our device came with many problems. Battery drain being one of them.
I'm assuming that you're using Stock MIUI 12.5.x. If that's your case, you have to wait for an update that fixes the battery drain.
https://github.com/PixelExperience/android-issues/issues/388 (the ROM maintainer explains better the issue)
Compass.

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Welcome to the club!
MIUI 12.5.x for our device came with many problems. Device drain being one of them.
I'm assuming that you're using Stock MIUI 12.5.x. If that's your case, you have to wait for an update that fixes the battery drain.
https://github.com/PixelExperience/android-issues/issues/388 (the ROM maintainer explains better the issue)
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I already have the phone for a year and a half but thanks . Also.. are we sure that we are going to get a fix in the next update relating to this battery drain issue?.. Or is it something that we EXPECT to happen?... Also yes, I'm using the stock debloated version! I could rollback to an older version but will that actually fix something? I still had the issue even on MIUI 12, not 12.5. MIUI 11 was the only one which had no problems .

Ah yes, the android system has kicked in again with a spectacular 245 mAh used! Will update in a few hours.
EDIT: In AccuBattery it's only showing as this: *look at the attached photo*. Are the MIUI battery stats wrong? Does AccuBattery not record the actual Android System usage? Does it put it in another category, like for example the app I was using at that time?

ImTheRealMarco said:
I already have the phone for a year and a half but thanks . Also.. are we sure that we are going to get a fix in the next update relating to this battery drain issue?.. Or is it something that we EXPECT to happen?... Also yes, I'm using the stock debloated version! I could rollback to an older version but will that actually fix something? I still had the issue even on MIUI 12, not 12.5. MIUI 11 was the only one which had no problems .
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Welcome to the sh!t where Xiaomi breaks it's budget phones with every update to force it's clients to buy new budget phone every year or pay 3xprice for higher-shelf device... Oh! And welcome to the Mediatek sh!t which deters developers, too!
It's 2 times when I bought Xiaomeme phone: first and last...

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Welcome to the sh!t where Xiaomi breaks it's budget phones with every update to force it's clients to buy new budget phone every year or pay 3xprice for higher-shelf device... Oh! And welcome to the Mediatek sh!t which deters developers, too!
It's 2 times when I bought Xiaomeme phone: first and last...
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Alright BUT if I buy a 400-500$ phone it's gonna "break" in 2 and a half years instead of 1 and a half years huh? Any other option besides Xiaomi?

ImTheRealMarco said:
I already have the phone for a year and a half but thanks . Also.. are we sure that we are going to get a fix in the next update relating to this battery drain issue?.. Or is it something that we EXPECT to happen?... Also yes, I'm using the stock debloated version! I could rollback to an older version but will that actually fix something? I still had the issue even on MIUI 12, not 12.5. MIUI 11 was the only one which had no problems .
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Users: We expect the bugs to be fixed with future updates.
Xiaomi: We expect not to fix bugs especially if they can push the sales of other phones.
Jokes aside, keep your fingers crossed that this battery drain issue is fixed by Xiaomi soon. Especially because our device will be EOL November/2021.
As for MIUI 12.0.x also having a battery drain problem I don't know. I started having this issue with PE+ when it started using MIUI 12.5.x as its base.
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Users: We expect the bugs to be fixed with future updates.
Xiaomi: We expect not to fix bugs especially if they can push the sales of other phones.
Jokes aside, keep your fingers crossed that this battery drain issue is fixed by Xiaomi soon. Especially because our device will be EOL November/2021.
As for MIUI 12.0.x also having a battery drain problem I don't know. I started having this issue with PE+ when it started using MIUI 12.5.x as its base.
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Also, since you seem pretty knowledgeable about custom ROMs, if you don't mind me asking, is using a custom ROM still safe? Like for inputting banking info etc etc.? And if it is, what are the downsides? And is there a way to break my phone like for real/forever? And what ROM would you recommend? Also, do you know if unlocking the bootloader voids my warranty? *It's not like I got much more of it left* And by the way, what's your address experience on using a custom ROM? How's the battery life? Anddddd sorry for the all questions, its fine if you don't wanna take the time to answer xD.

ImTheRealMarco said:
Also, since you seem pretty knowledgeable about custom ROMs, if you don't mind me asking, is using a custom ROM still safe? Like for inputting banking info etc etc.? And if it is, what are the downsides? And is there a way to break my phone like for real/forever? And what ROM would you recommend? Also, do you know if unlocking the bootloader voids my warranty? *It's not like I got much more of it left* And by the way, what's your address experience on using a custom ROM? How's the battery life? Anddddd sorry for the all questions, its fine if you don't wanna take the time to answer xD.
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Is using a Custom ROM safe (for banking, PayPal etc)? I cannot give a proper answer for this. Custom ROMs are usually a mix of open source code (from the Custom ROM developer(s)) and binary blobs from the manufacturer (I might be missing something here). You could build a Custom ROM from the source code and add the binary blobs yourself to be sure, but that's quite a lot of work. I chose PE+ for now which has a decent user base. I do use banking applications with it (even with root). Now let's suppose you work for the CIA or the NSA. I wouldn't recommend a Custom ROM for you, and certainly would have reservations for stock MIUI too. It depends on your mileage;
Downsides? I'll talk specifically about the RN8Pro. In the past it was easier to hard brick the device, which meant that you needed to contact an authorized service center to fix it (or go online but I won't detail it here). So depending on the mistake you do when you flash a Custom ROM yes, you can hard brick it (read #3 to unbrick). Another thing that's possible to damage is the IMEI. It's always advisable to make nandroid backups of the relevant IMEI partitions in case you ever need them (restoring the IMEI partitions should only be done if absolutely needed and might still fail for whatever reason);
Breaking your phone. There is now an unbrick method that fixes a hard brick without the need for a service center. You can do it yourself too.
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Recommended Custom ROM. My suggestion is that you stay as close to Stock ROM as possible, so try
. This modded Stock MIUI 12.5.x should have an update soon;
Warranty for a unlocked bootloader. Yes, you'll void your warranty but you can also re-lock your bootloader if necessary. Unlocking your bootloader will format your data (you'll lose apps + data in the process). I don't know if re-locking does the same, but I guess it does;
My experience on using a Custom ROM. I've only used PE+ as my daily driver. For the good and the bad (there's probably other stuff I didn't mention) read https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85697555. That's my resumed review of the latest release at that time;
Time. I don't mind taking my time to answer your questions (and being corrected too).
If you do decide to try a Custom ROM there are a bunch of channels in Telegram. Most developers have migrated to there and don't usually reply to queries here at XDA. There's a lot more Custom ROMs available on TeleGram than here. You'll have to search for those.
This YouTube channel should have answers for most of your Custom ROM flashing questions:
https://www.youtube.com/c/AlltricksCoIn/videos
Compass.

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Is using a Custom ROM safe (for banking, PayPal etc)? I cannot give a proper answer for this. Custom ROMs are usually a mix of open source code (from the Custom ROM developer(s)) and binary blobs from the manufacturer (I might be missing something here). You could build a Custom ROM from the source code and add the binary blobs yourself to be sure, but that's quite a lot of work. I chose PE+ for now which has a decent user base. I do use banking applications with it (even with root). Now let's suppose you work for the CIA or the NSA. I wouldn't recommend a Custom ROM for you, and certainly would have reservations for stock MIUI too. It depends on your mileage;
Downsides? I'll talk specifically about the RN8Pro. In the past it was easier to hard brick the device, which meant that you needed to contact an authorized service center to fix it (or go online but I won't detail it here). So depending on the mistake you do when you flash a Custom ROM yes, you can hard brick it (read #3 to unbrick). Another thing that's possible to damage is the IMEI. It's always advisable to make nandroid backups of the relevant IMEI partitions in case you ever need them (restoring the IMEI partitions should only be done if absolutely needed and might still fail for whatever reason);
Breaking your phone. There is now an unbrick method that fixes a hard brick without the need for a service center. You can do it yourself too.
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Recommended Custom ROM. My suggestion is that you stay as close to Stock ROM as possible, so try
. This modded Stock MIUI 12.5.x should have an update soon;
Warranty for a unlocked bootloader. Yes, you'll void your warranty but you can also re-lock your bootloader if necessary. Unlocking your bootloader will format your data (you'll lose apps + data in the process). I don't know if re-locking does the same, but I guess it does;
My experience on using a Custom ROM. I've only used PE+ as my daily driver. For the good and the bad (there's probably other stuff I didn't mention) read https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85697555. That's my resumed review of the latest release at that time;
Time. I don't mind taking my time to answer your questions (and being corrected too).
If you do decide to try a Custom ROM there are a bunch of channels in Telegram. Most developers have migrated to there and don't usually reply to queries here at XDA. There's a lot more Custom ROMs available on TeleGram than here.
Telegram channel/group links:
t.me/RedmiNote8ProOfficial (for queries; check /rules and /notes before asking)
t.me/RedmiNote8ProUpdates (for releases)
This YouTube channel should have answers for most of your Custom ROM flashing questions:
https://www.youtube.com/c/AlltricksCoIn/videos
Compass.
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Thanks a lot man, I wonder if re-locking the bootloader will "regain" my warranty like if I re-lock it and send it to service, will they say something? Also I have heard that you are going to brick your phone if you re-lock the bootloader while you have a custom ROM or something like that, which I don't know anything about. So that may be fake. Thanks once again for all the explanations!! By the way, do you know what the average Android System usage should be? Or for example, what's your daily usage?

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Thanks a lot man, I wonder if re-locking the bootloader will "regain" my warranty like if I re-lock it and send it to service, will they say something? Also I have heard that you are going to brick your phone if you re-lock the bootloader while you have a custom ROM or something like that, which I don't know anything about. So that may be fake. Thanks once again for all the explanations!! By the way, do you know what the average Android System usage should be? Or for example, what's your daily usage?
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Re-locking your bootloader is the same as buying it new and locked. Xiaomi phones don't act like Samsung's Knox, which goes to 0x1 once the bootloader is unlocked and cannot be set back to 0x0.
To re-lock your bootloader you basically flash a Stock MIUI and enable the re-lock option (when using SP Flash Tool if I'm not mistaken). I've never heard of re-locking a bootloader with a Custom ROM installed (I don't think it's possible).
I'll attach screenshots with my Android System usage, but since I've just charged and turned on my phone I don't think it'll help you.
I don't know what the average usage for the Android System should be. It should vary with the phone's use.
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Re-locking your bootloader is the same as buying it new and locked. Xiaomi phones don't act like Samsung's Knox, which goes to 0x1 once the bootloader is unlocked and cannot be set back to 0x0.
To re-lock your bootloader you basically flash a Stock MIUI and enable the re-lock option (when using SP Flash Tool if I'm not mistaken). I've never heard of re-locking a bootloader with a Custom ROM installed (I don't think it's possible).
I'll attach screenshots with my Android System usage, but since I've just charged and turned on my phone I don't think it'll help you.
I don't know what the average usage for the Android System should be. It should vary with the phone's use.
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Yeah.... Besides that you just charged it, I cannot see the mAh used by it but it seems pretty high but mime's almost double the %. I wonder if the Kernel (Android OS) gets into the Android System tab for me, unlike for you. Also, do you know if AccuBattery is accurate? Because if it is, then the Android System isn't using almost anything. I did also have 4 hours of SoT with 50% so the battery life is about as good as it can be, I think? By the way, I have heard that disabling MIUI optimizations could help. Do you know anything about that?. Thanks a lot in advance, once again!