LG G3 Severe annoyances - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, this is my first post here, just thought I would share my experiences with the LG G3 (D855)
...probably the worst phone I have ever owned, so far I have had the Nexus one, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 and a Nexus 5. My nexus 5 got destroyed at work, so took this as an opportunity to upgrade, but didn't want the Nexus 6 due to its size.
Now, where to start with the G3...
Signal- it is unbelievably bad, going from the Nexus where signal was nearly full in my room to barely getting any now. It is impossible to make calls or browse the net with the phone unless connected to the WiFi, I could download on H+ at about 1.2 mB a second, where as the G3 will barely refresh Facebook. My phone gets used at work quite a bit, but the signal isn't the strongest- however, all phones worked there to make call, apart from this one
Keyboard- Who the hell designs a keyboard without the comma on the front of it without having to go into a menu? This is where you tell me to install another one, but seriously?
Battery- yes I can understand it is a big screen etc, but for 3000 mAh it a atrocious.
Airplane mode- yes I know what it does, why the hell does it tell me every time I select it.
McAfee- we have a play store, I am not a chump and don't download from unknown sources, give the option to remove it.
Vibrate- yes it is harsh, but I work in a noisy environment, I need a strong vibrate function, however, one thing I DO NOT NEED is for it to vibrate in my ear when someone texts/whatsapps me during a call. This makes hearing the other person impossible, they can even hear it on the other end of the phone. I see no way of dulling the vibrate but only when in a call?
-Camera lag
-OS lag (Severe)
Yes, they have wowed their customers with a qhd display, but seriously, they need to start spending money on where it matters like antenna research. After a quick Google, it turns out to be a huge problem with this phone. Not just mine personally.
I am returning this phone after 18 hours of having it. Sorry LG, but they have lost me as a customer.
Dave

Looking for your previous phones I still think this "lag" is a placebo.
Came from a GNex and I must say that LG G3 does NOT lags.

Thank you for your judgment on how I percieve lag, my last phone was a Nexus 5 with CM, it did NOT have lag. This phone does.
UPDATE
Ok, after doing some more reading up, I decided to give the phone a bit more of a chance. I was headed on a 60 mile drive with my brother to see my family this Christmas. Before I left, I gave it a factory reset just to make sure I started with a clean slate.
Anyway headed on my way, 85% battery, I sent a friend a whatsapp message that would sit there ready to send and then go when I got signal. 40 miles traveled, checking very often here and there and it still hadn't sent. The battery had dropped to 25% in this time. Rather than waste any more time or battery in the hope that it would eventually get signal, I put airplane mode on. Guess what, I know what airplane mode does, because it told me AGAIN.
Now, I know this journey well, I know where I get signal and where I don't. All previous phones would have worked numerous places where the G3 didn't.
Oddly, instead of getting signal in some of the places around home where it should definately get it, the phone just constantly displayed roaming and wouldn't allow data. This happens with the Three network from time to time, but always happens in certain places where the network isnt available and allows voice calls only, not at home where there IS reception.
UPDATE
Just discovered that the stock charger cannot supply enough current to use the phone at the same time as charging. This phone is just brilliant...

DavidVanstone said:
Hi all, this is my first post here, just thought I would share my experiences with the LG G3 (D855)
Keyboard- Who the hell designs a keyboard without the comma on the front of it without having to go into a menu? This is where you tell me to install another one, but seriously?
-OS lag (Severe)
Dave
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I understand you are about to return it already, this is more for people who is experiencing your issues.
The 2 issues above can be solved:
-Keyboard: it is configurable. Settings-> Language and input-> Lg Keyboard-> Keyboard height and layout-> Bottom row keys.
-OS lag: I got the phone 2 days ago and I was quite pissed off about the touch panel lag. The issue was the Touch zoom in my case. Go to Settings-> General-> Accessibility and disable Touch zoom.
DavidVanstone said:
UPDATE
Just discovered that the stock charger cannot supply enough current to use the phone at the same time as charging. This phone is just brilliant...
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I am not sure what do you mean here. I used the phone for a couple of hours yesterday from 0% battery to ~30% while charging.
I hope this helps.
R.

Ok thank you, installed the google keyboard for now, used to it so feel at hone
I can live with all the issues (as I would most probably ROM it if I kept it anyway) but cannot abide the very very poor signal and the charging. It is currently on charge and has dropped 2% in the time I have written this. Screen brightness is on its lowest.
Have raised an RMA, just waiting to hear back. It is such a shame, it has its good points, love the screen, volume isn't as bad as most make out. Just a lot of other issues (mainly software) that seriously need to be addressed.

Did i just read you complaining about LAG comparing the LG OS with a nexus 5 that was on ****ing CYANOGEN?!
Well just install CYANOGEN on your G3 and be done with it....

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Did i just read you complaining about LAG comparing the LG OS with a nexus 5 that was on ****ing CYANOGEN?!
Well just install CYANOGEN on your G3 and be done with it....
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And that will cure my hardware signal issues will it? I think not.

UPDATE
Tried three different chargers tonight, none of which make any difference to its inability to be charging while being used. It just keeps slowly running out.

Yeah I just upgraded from a Nokia Lumia 1020 today, and I have to admit...I am unimpressed. This thing is, on paper, WAY more powerful, so why the hell is it so. goddamn. LAGGY?

The lag, I can live with, as said, if I was keeping it I woukd probably ROM it anyway.
The thing is there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed, and with us all being techy types we could sort most of the issues with some modding, but here is my question, what does the average end user do with the problems? Accept them? Talk to LG and get told that the phone should vibrate like that when getting a notification during a call? Get told that the signal issues are because of the carrier. Get told that the reason their batteriy is going flat is because of apps they have installed? When after all this it is a combination of bad software and hardware that lets this phone down, no one else's fault.
UPDATE
Battery full notification, during writing this, every time I paused for a few seconds the phone vibrated, left a notification and bleeped to tell me the battery was full- this gets highly ***king annoying after a while, can this be turned off?!
Oh, here is the graph of the battery during my drive yesterday that I explained about. The drop is when the phone was looking for signal duringn the journey.
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You can see at the -5 and -3 hour mark where I put the phone on charge, a small spike in the graph, then immediately while being used, the level continued to drop with it still plugged in.

Yeah, the average user is pretty much ****ed. Thing is, there is NO excuse for it. If Microsoft, the former king of bloat, can make a smooth, fast, stable operating system that flies even on low end hardware, why can't Google make it fly on high end hardware? Why can't LG?
I will keep experimenting with Roms, but right now it's very likely I'll return this and go back to a Windows phone.
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jasongw said:
Yeah, the average user is pretty much ****ed. Thing is, there is NO excuse for it. If Microsoft, the former king of bloat, can make a smooth, fast, stable operating system that flies even on low end hardware, why can't Google make it fly on high end hardware? Why can't LG?
I will keep experimenting with Roms, but right now it's very likely I'll return this and go back to a Windows phone.
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It is such a shame, the phone does have some good bits going for it, but I am definately returning mine, the RMA has been raised with Ebuyer, just waiting to hear back.
I would have rommed it, but seeing as it's going back I couldn't be doing with the hassle of doing it and putting it back to stock again. Also, not being able to utilise the 4k and other camera features in aosp. Maybe someone can sort that, but either way, a phone not being able to get signal is a big problem for me and for some reason this issue seems to be getting more and more common nowadays (why is this?).
A quick question, which smartphones ACTUALLY have good signal? Once this one has gone, I'll be looking for another phone.

I just bought my G3 Monday, switched from an iPhone 6. The stock rom was slow.
Today rooted and installed Candy5. This phone is a beast. I haven't had one thing today phase this.
You can't compare CM to stock.
Works very well paired the Lg w110 watch.
Also this phone has much much better coverage then my iPhone and has the same that my Note 2 had.
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Returning EVO unless....

Unless someone knows why I keep getting these errors now.
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Zethmir said:
Unless someone knows why I keep getting these errors now.
Sorry for the large imgs but I'm not able to shrink them on my iPad right now.
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If I was you and having these problems, the first thing I would do would be to run the RUU and get back to stock. Easiest way to find out if it's the Rom or the phone.
in ur settings to a factory reset
You are on a rooted phone and you are going to return it due to errors that might be a result of the root?
No root and I mean no ROOT is perfect and each phone can act differently. Try to reflash again and clear out all your data/cache and try it again.
Try another ROM just to see.
Yet another user error. This is YOUR fault. Heck they could report your to HTC if they didn't like you.
WoW just wow. You talk to me like I am the biggest noob on the forums.
For your information the root was fine for over 2 weeks and this just started last Friday. I had a launch evo and rooted it the first day it was available. Also I flashed back to stock ruu and had the same problem.
Maybe before you open your mouth and let the **** flow out ask yourself a simple question : Is my comment going to help or just make me look like an ass.
Also I would like to comment on the fact I am pretty good at phone jailbreaking and rooting. I know how to read guides and I have been doing this kind of stuff since the pocket pc's. I have never ran into a much ruder group then the people that posted on this topic. Heck even a rom dev talked to me nicer then you guys did when I asked about a project he hadn't worked on in months.
I have returned my EVO but haven't lost hope in you guys. Just let me know if you guys ever apply at my work so I can avoid you at all costs.
Note: This only applies to the ones that deserve it. Thanks for mentioning the stock RUU Roman G, and for mentioning the factory reset toenail78. I had already tried that but to no avail. Also note I even told the store I rooted the phone and flashed it back to stock and neither worked and they were just as puzzled as I was. I am not your 15 year old teenager, but thanks for treating me like one.
I'm still confused as to why anyone would ever return this phone except for physical damage(screen ripping off). Everything software based can be fixed. And its only been 2 weeks. In another 2 weeks, we'll probably have Gingerbread running on this thing. The devs here are simply just amazing. Hell i got these errors BEFORE i rooted. So I'm guessing it was just the network being raped by a new device. I haven't seen them for awhile now.
WoW just wow. You talk to me like I am the biggest noob on the forums.
For your information the root was fine for over 2 weeks and this just started last Friday. I had a launch evo and rooted it the first day it was available. Also I flashed back to stock ruu and had the same problem.
Maybe before you open your mouth and let the **** flow out ask yourself a simple question : Is my comment going to help or just make me look like an ass.
Also I would like to comment on the fact I am pretty good at phone jailbreaking and rooting. I know how to read guides and I have been doing this kind of stuff since the pocket pc's. I have never ran into a much ruder group then the people that posted on this topic. Heck even a rom dev talked to me nicer then you guys did when I asked about a project he hadn't worked on in months.
I have returned my EVO but haven't lost hope in you guys. Just let me know if you guys ever apply at my work so I can avoid you at all costs.
Note: This only applies to the ones that deserve it. Thanks for mentioning the stock RUU Roman G, and for mentioning the factory reset toenail78. I had already tried that but to no avail. Also note I even told the store I rooted the phone and flashed it back to stock and neither worked and they were just as puzzled as I was. I am not your 15 year old teenager, but thanks for treating me like one.
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Whoa whoa whoa hey now... can I have a job?
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Zethmir said:
WoW just wow. You talk to me like I am the biggest noob on the forums.
For your information the root was fine for over 2 weeks and this just started last Friday. I had a launch evo and rooted it the first day it was available. Also I flashed back to stock ruu and had the same problem.
Maybe before you open your mouth and let the **** flow out ask yourself a simple question : Is my comment going to help or just make me look like an ass.
Also I would like to comment on the fact I am pretty good at phone jailbreaking and rooting. I know how to read guides and I have been doing this kind of stuff since the pocket pc's. I have never ran into a much ruder group then the people that posted on this topic. Heck even a rom dev talked to me nicer then you guys did when I asked about a project he hadn't worked on in months.
I have returned my EVO but haven't lost hope in you guys. Just let me know if you guys ever apply at my work so I can avoid you at all costs.
Note: This only applies to the ones that deserve it. Thanks for mentioning the stock RUU Roman G, and for mentioning the factory reset toenail78. I had already tried that but to no avail. Also note I even told the store I rooted the phone and flashed it back to stock and neither worked and they were just as puzzled as I was. I am not your 15 year old teenager, but thanks for treating me like one.
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You asked people to make assumptions, so thanks for being so offended by it. You come here with an immature ultimatum, "Help me or I'm sending this back!" and give us no other information. Only your signature gives any information about your phone, "rooted." Now you fly off the handle and insult everyone.
Probably because your an apple fanboy and god hates you.
It has nothing to do with being a "noob" or "super cool neeto phone pro". I has to do with the ultimatum of returning a phone that you messed up.
Everything will be ok.
Zethmir said:
Unless someone knows why I keep getting these errors now.
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Yeah, I'd like to know where in your original post we could safely assume you knew what you were doing. You gave absolutely NO information, except that you have no patience. This is a developer's forum, which means if you don't give out useful information that people can use to help you, they're going to assume you don't know what you're doing.
I simply asked if anyone knew about these errors. I didn't say fix them.
BTW if I was an Apple fanboy I would have preordered a iPhone 4 instead of the EVO. But sorry your way off on that lol. I am just a gadget person. My iPad and MacBook are for work and school. Heck if I wouldn't be getting so much for my student loan I would of never gotten either, well maybe the iPad because it was a great replacement for the iPhone.
I am going to stick with android, and going to go buy a Nexus One. I am thankful for your guys help, sorry if I offended anyone but it just struck a nerve. This is the reason I don't post on forums often for help. Anyways I will keep an eye on the EVO for future possible purchase. I guess when it came down to it, the screen issue (separation and faulty grounding), the meh battery life (I didn't say it was bad it was just sub par), the 30fps limit (which shows), and the poor service in my area were the downfalls for me with the EVO.
I hope you guys all have better luck then me and enjoy your great phone.
I love that your screen shots show the Evo battery as yellow. Thats the only color my battery ever is...
Im wondering why you didn't just exchange the phone for a new one if you suspected a hardware problem?
Zethmir said:
I am going to stick with android, and going to go buy a Nexus One. I am thankful for your guys help, sorry if I offended anyone but it just struck a nerve. This is the reason I don't post on forums often for help. Anyways I will keep an eye on the EVO for future possible purchase. I guess when it came down to it, the screen issue (separation and faulty grounding), the meh battery life (I didn't say it was bad it was just sub par), the 30fps limit (which shows), and the poor service in my area were the downfalls for me with the EVO.
I hope you guys all have better luck then me and enjoy your great phone.
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The screen separation isn't rampant, and a silly reason to dump the phone if you're not suffering from it.
I have a Nexus One and an EVO 4G. I also have every version of the iPhone from day 1, and should be receiving an iPhone 4 this afternoon if FedEx delivers as promised, so I can speak to each of these with some experience.
I think you'll be EXTREMELY disappointed in the Nexus One if you switch to it after having an EVO 4G. The Nexus One's screen is over-saturated and biased towards too much, I mean TOO MUCH, red. The camera puts a large pink blurred circle into every picture you take. The touch input is very flakey, regardless of ROM you use. It's almost impossible to type accurately on it unless you install Swype or ShapeWriter. It's extremely difficult to see the screen outdoors - I couldn't even get a podcast playing while walking to lunch the other day until I found a big shade tree to stand under. Battery life on the Nexus One is probably the worst of any phone I've ever owned, though that may be a network lack of signal issue (T-Mobile). Speaking of T-Mo, if you get T-Mobile version instead of AT&T you can look forward to lots of missed calls and lots of no 3G coverage areas.
The Nexus One has some great features, including the awesome speaker phone and noise canceling mic, a beautiful hardware design that puts even the legendary styling of iPhones to shame, and it fits great in your hand. And don't forget the fantastic ROMS by Cyanogen and Modaco, but if you're not happy with an EVO 4G I think we'll see you posting over in the Nexus One sections soon enough with some ultimatum about "fix the touchscreen or I'm returning this phone" or some other such issue.
Good luck with whatever phone you pick, because with Android phones, there's ALWAYS some glitch or flaw with the phone that will annoy you, and there's ALWAYS a much better phone coming out next month or two (Droid, then N1, then Desire, then EVO, and upcoming Galaxy S). iPhones have issues too, but at least with your iPhones you don't have to worry about a new better model but once per year - but then you have far fewer options for hacking and the latest hardware. ;-)
Zethmir said:
WoW just wow. You talk to me like I am the biggest noob on the forums.
For your information the root was fine for over 2 weeks and this just started last Friday. I had a launch evo and rooted it the first day it was available. Also I flashed back to stock ruu and had the same problem.
Maybe before you open your mouth and let the **** flow out ask yourself a simple question : Is my comment going to help or just make me look like an ass.
Also I would like to comment on the fact I am pretty good at phone jailbreaking and rooting. I know how to read guides and I have been doing this kind of stuff since the pocket pc's. I have never ran into a much ruder group then the people that posted on this topic. Heck even a rom dev talked to me nicer then you guys did when I asked about a project he hadn't worked on in months.
I have returned my EVO but haven't lost hope in you guys. Just let me know if you guys ever apply at my work so I can avoid you at all costs.
Note: This only applies to the ones that deserve it. Thanks for mentioning the stock RUU Roman G, and for mentioning the factory reset toenail78. I had already tried that but to no avail. Also note I even told the store I rooted the phone and flashed it back to stock and neither worked and they were just as puzzled as I was. I am not your 15 year old teenager, but thanks for treating me like one.
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I know it's too late to help in this instance, but in the future try asking your questions over at ppcgeeks. They play nicer over there. Most of us here on xda seem to have personality problems and can't play too well with others. You said you might try a nexus one. I have one of those too. I prefer the Evo hands down... If I were you I would go back to Sprint and buy another Evo, You will be much more satisfied down the road. Don't let these folks get under your skin!!
i know its a late reply but ill post anyway. i had the exact same problem. a sprint tech helped me out and called me throughout the day to see if it was working. basically he helped me do a reset of the phone to attempt a fix of the low reception. after that we had to grab a tower and because the tower was down i was getting the exact same problem as OP.
he noted that the phone couldnt be processed in the system yet because of the tower so he would call me and let me know if it went through or not. and if it did to continue troubleshooting it.
i kept on trying all day and it went through a couple of minutes before he called me as if he knew i got through. then it was fixed.
dont remember what we did because we entered a bunch of numbers in the dialer, but i know we reset everything and updated everything. it was durring the update that was causing the problems and recurring errors like what the OP had.
if its rooted id say update but i dont know which not to update since you could lose root. i would unroot, run all updates and register phone automatically and if it works then root. if not call tech and see if it can be registered automatically somehow. when it works, root.
just posting this for future reference because i didnt see anyone mention something like this here

Verizon GN terrible wifi signal

Is this normal for the GN? Do I have a faulty device? On wifi, my download speeds are horrible for this type of device. At home, I have comcast broadband, and a comcast router. My GS2 destroyed downloads at a ridiculous rate. We're talking MBs a second. Full wifi signal. My GN barely holds 3 bars. Consistently downloading at a couple hundreds kb/s
Before you say anything, no it's not my router. I've 2 laptops, a PS3, a kindle, and a TV, all hooked up to the router, and they've no problem.
If this is the way it's going to be, and exchanging the device won't help, I guess I'll cancel verizon, and head to sprint and pick up another sg2. IDK.
Anything guys? For a device like this to be faulty in an area like downloads via wifi, especially when verizon charges up the butt for data, it's unacceptable.
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Is this normal for the GN? Do I have a faulty device? On wifi, my download speeds are horrible for this type of device. At home, I have comcast broadband, and a comcast router. My GS2 destroyed downloads at a ridiculous rate. We're talking MBs a second. Full wifi signal. My GN barely holds 3 bars. Consistently downloading at a couple hundreds kb/s
Before you say anything, no it's not my router. I've 2 laptops, a PS3, a kindle, and a TV, all hooked up to the router, and they've no problem.
If this is the way it's going to be, and exchanging the device won't help, I guess I'll cancel verizon, and head to sprint and pick up another sg2. IDK.
Anything guys? For a device like this to be faulty in an area like downloads via wifi, especially when verizon charges up the butt for data, it's unacceptable.
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I am actually going to say it. It could be your router. The GN is finnicky as hell with wifi channels. Wifi channels will affect signal strength, stability of connection, and speed of intarwebz.
Now before you say it: Not all wifi chipsets and devices are created equally. It is a phone, it doesn't exactly have a hi gain antenna in it
For a $750 phone, you think the parts would be equal to other phones. If it is my router, I have like 6 other devices on it that work just fine, so I think it I can safely blame it on the phone. Deal breaker I think.
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cam1john said:
For a $750 phone, you think the parts would be equal to other phones. If it is my router, I have like 6 other devices on it that work just fine, so I think it I can safely blame it on the phone. Deal breaker I think.
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To each their own.
To not even consider my suggestion of checking out other wifi channels is a disservice to the device and yourself.
cam1john said:
For a $750 phone, you think the parts would be equal to other phones. If it is my router, I have like 6 other devices on it that work just fine, so I think it I can safely blame it on the phone. Deal breaker I think.
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Sounds like you should swoop an iPhone. If you are using a N Draft router you need to select a certain channel range (Google it, you'll find it). I pull 10-20 MBPs on WiFi. Its not that hard to change your wifi channel btw.
Ya well I had a gs2 and absolutely no problems. This phones a bit laggy, battery life seems much worse, even with juice defender. Paying more per month for it. I guess I expected more.
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cam1john said:
Ya well I had a gs2 and absolutely no problems. This phones a bit laggy, battery life seems much worse, even with juice defender. Paying more per month for it. I guess I expected more.
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Use what makes you happy. No point in continuing thread. I gotta say, I thought you came here for help.
<yoda voice> Mistaken, I was. </yoda voice>
adrynalyne said:
Use what makes you happy. No point in continuing thread. I gotta say, I thought you came here for help.
<yoda voice> Mistaken, I was. </yoda voice>
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Here's a question, with data disabled, and only text messaging, why did my battery drain 5% in 6 minutes? I literally stood and had a conversation and looked at my phone, and it went from 38% to 33% in 6 minutes. This is also the extended battery
In fact, it just drained 3% in the time it took me to write this post out.
Ridiculous.
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cam1john said:
Here's a question, with data disabled, and only text messaging, why did my battery drain 5% in 6 minutes? I literally stood and had a conversation and looked at my phone, and it went from 38% to 33% in 6 minutes. This is also the extended battery
In fact, it just drained 3% in the time it took me to write this post out.
Ridiculous.
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You aren't looking for help, so why are you continuing this thread?
If it took 3% to post this, you are either the world's slowest typer or lying. I am sorry but you lost your credibility with me when you refused a simple suggestion that would have taken you all of 3 minutes to test and instead decided to bash the device. Your agenda was not to come here for help.
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You aren't looking for help, so why are you continuing this thread?
If it took 3% to post this, you are either the world's slowest typer or lying. I am sorry but you lost your credibility with me when you refused a simple suggestion that would have taken you all of 3 minutes to test and instead decided to bash the device. Your agenda was not to come here for help.
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Yes I did come here for help. I would have liked another suggestion other than one pertaining to messing with my router channels. Which in turn would probably interfere with the other 6 devices on my router and I'd end up going around in a circle.
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cam1john said:
Yes I did come here for help. I would have liked another suggestion other than one pertaining to messing with my router channels. Which in turn would probably interfere with the other 6 devices on my router and I'd end up going around in a circle.
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I guess we will never know, seeing how you know better without ever trying
What other solutions did you think you would find for your device? A cantenna? Changing channels is the first thing you should try in these cases.
Could we have determined that maybe something is wrong with your device? Sure. But you can't teach someone who knows it all.
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I understand that you're in love with this phone. But because you might not have problems doesn't mean others don't either.
Yes, my battery is draining as fast as I posted. If you don't have any viable solutions, I would like to hear what others have to say.
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I understand that you're in love with this phone. But because you might not have problems doesn't mean others don't either.
Yes, my battery is draining as fast as I posted. If you don't have any viable solutions, I would like to hear what others have to say.
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Me too. Two people tried to help you in this thread by suggesting trying different channels. Lets wait and see what else others have to say and you can cherry pick your solution because you know what the problem is
Best of luck to you and I hope you get your issue worked out.
adrynalyne said:
Me too. Two people tried to help you in this thread by suggesting trying different channels. Lets wait and see what else others have to say and you can cherry pick your solution because you know what the problem is
Best of luck to you and I hope you get your issue worked out.
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Whatever dude. Battery in this thing sucks. Not worth it. I have to be afraid to turn on my Nexus or my battery will drain. I timed it for about 20 minutes. All I was doing was moving around in my settings and in my phone, no browsing, no games, etc. My battery drained 1% every 2 minutes, probably take a few seconds. Just to roam around my phone, my battery was dying practically by the minute. This is with the extended battery and NOW juice defender ultimate. No network, wifi only, full brightness.
Why would I lie? I have no reason to lie. Truly I was looking for answers at first, then you got all upset because this phones your baby. If this phone's charge lasts you all day, you apparently don't use it the way it was made to be used.
I'm now turning on auto brightness which will obviously make a difference, but will totally offset the ENTIRE point of purchasing this device, which is the screen and it's beauty. That is, unless you're sitting right next to a charger.
Whatever. No help here.
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Whatever dude. Battery in this thing sucks. Not worth it. I have to be afraid to turn on my Nexus or my battery will drain. I timed it for about 20 minutes. All I was doing was moving around in my settings and in my phone, no browsing, no games, etc. My battery drained 1% every 2 minutes, probably take a few seconds. Just to roam around my phone, my battery was dying practically by the minute. This is with the extended battery and NOW juice defender ultimate. No network, wifi only, full brightness.
Why would I lie? I have no reason to lie. Truly I was looking for answers at first, then you got all upset because this phones your baby. If this phone's charge lasts you all day, you apparently don't use it the way it was made to be used.
I'm now turning on auto brightness which will obviously make a difference, but will totally offset the ENTIRE point of purchasing this device, which is the screen and it's beauty. That is, unless you're sitting right next to a charger.
Whatever. No help here.
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Can't help the helpless. You did not post battery stats, you were never open to any suggestions with your first problem. Now we can glean from your post that you were likely at max brightness and are confused the battery was being drained by the screen. Derp.
Truly I was looking for answers at first, then you got all upset because this phones your baby.
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Changing wireless channels is normal troubleshooting for any wireless device with connection issues. I got upset because this phone is my baby? Mine works. Not upset in the least!
I used to do Microsoft support when I was younger--
You know what we used to do with difficult folks like you who refused to try troubleshooting due to them 'knowing' so much? Format their machines and send them on their way. You just can't help those who know it all. Why ask for help if you already know everything?
Move on, Mr. Troll. Another device awaits you.
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Whatever. No help here.
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seriously? you want to try and claim no help?
if you had tried the suggestion of changing wifi channel, people would continue to help. if you cant even understand/are willing to try basic troubleshooting, you are right... there is no help for you. no one wants to deal with someone who wont even think about trying suggestions.
battery drain issue
I started experiencing the same kind of battery drain issue you're talking about (if I was reading a kindle with screen brightness at minimum in airplane mode my battery would last less than an hour, and that was extended life battery) and it turned out I had a bad phone. Verizon replaced it (finally, after I showed them a screen dying with dead pixels and off colors) and my battery life increased. But not as much as I would have liked! Turned out bad phone ruined my extended life battery. Got a new one, no longer have "battery anxiety" - maybe call the company, explain what's happening, and try a replacement before you decide "all" GNEX are crap.
WIFI reach on phone is not as good as on my Galaxy 10.1 Tab, but my D/L speeds are pretty much consistent with everything else on network, so all your problems could be the same.
LOL @ This epic fail of a thread. The OP is beyond help as there's no helping the intentionally obtuse.
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About to return mine

Need to know if anyone else is having this issue and if it's hardware related or just at&t tower related.
I'm regularly getting a censor type logo where my signal bars would normally be (it's a circle with a line through it) basically saying I have no network connection, similar to if you were to take out your sim card. This doesn't seem to be related to signal because it will happen out of the blue and I'll have 4 bars prior. It only lasts for 5-20 seconds, then kicks back in. I haven't had any data drops, but when this happens, I can't call, text, do anything.
Has anyone else experience this? Need some input because I have two days left in my return window and was going to swap it out for a new unit if this sounds like a hardware defect.
Had the phone on for 2.5 hours and was without mobile network for 7% of that time according to cell standby stats. Doesn't seem normal.
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Yea sounds like hardware return for a new one buddy
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Could be your sim card, do you have other at&t phones on your account, if you do are they having issues too?
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Could be your sim card, do you have other at&t phones on your account, if you do are they having issues too?
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Only other phone we got is my mom's basic flip phone. I still have two days to swap it out and had at&t tech make note of what's going on on my account, just wondering if this was a issue on their part of my phone's.
I'm in central NJ and in nyc for school (NJ right now) so i'm in a strong service area, but the phones just dropping the network randomly. I can be on xda browsing one second and have that symbol up the next.
Yea, i'd say try swapping it out first, that being probably the easier option at the moment. Then again, if they already have a note of it, they'd know it's a recurring issue should it happen again shortly thereafter.... so i don't think that would be a problem then, either Either way, better to be safe than sorry.
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Only other phone we got is my mom's basic flip phone. I still have two days to swap it out and had at&t tech make note of what's going on on my account, just wondering if this was a issue on their part of my phone's.
I'm in central NJ and in nyc for school (NJ right now) so i'm in a strong service area, but the phones just dropping the network randomly. I can be on xda browsing one second and have that symbol up the next.
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I got mine yesterday and i had a iPhone previously. wasn't picking up any internet service until i went to at&t and had them switch my sim card out for a new one so yeah... just a thought.
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Yea, i'd say try swapping it out first, that being probably the easier option at the moment. Then again, if they already have a note of it, they'd know it's a recurring issue should it happen again shortly thereafter.... so i don't think that would be a problem then, either Either way, better to be safe than sorry.
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I already flashed back to stock and got everything on dropbox, so if I can I'm gonna go the new phone route. I'd rather know it's something with the towers around here then find out it's my s3 after my return period is up, ya know.
But have you guys ever had this issue like at all? Cause this happens quite often on my phone, once every ten minutes at least, usually more.
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I already flashed back to stock and got everything on dropbox, so if I can I'm gonna go the new phone route. I'd rather know it's something with the towers around here then find out it's my s3 after my return period is up, ya know.
But have you guys ever had this issue like at all? Cause this happens quite often on my phone, once every ten minutes at least, usually more.
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It's not your phone.
It's happened to both of my devices (one replacement due to crashing) while I'm at my cottage. (No service zone)
It's the towers.
Noxey said:
It's not your phone.
It's happened to both of my devices (one replacement due to crashing) while I'm at my cottage. (No service zone)
It's the towers.
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But I'm in a strong service zone, HSPA+ where I'm at, and 4GLTE a few towns over. Dropping service while at your cottage in a no service zone is a bit different I'd think.
It's worth getting a replacement just in case.
I got the same issue. Happens to both my one x and s3. Lte just started rolling out here and I'm blaming it on that. I rarely get 2g signal anymore
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s1mpd1ddy said:
I got the same issue. Happens to both my one x and s3. Lte just started rolling out here and I'm blaming it on that. I rarely get 2g signal anymore
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No LTE rolling out here. Anyway, I'm going to pick one up tomorrow and I'll let you guys know if it's problem solved or not. If not, we'll continue to trouble shoot.
Big thanks to everyone for the replies and input.
Probably the towers. This was a issue with galaxy s2 also on sprint. Had to do with tower switching
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No LTE rolling out here. Anyway, I'm going to pick one up tomorrow and I'll let you guys know if it's problem solved or not. If not, we'll continue to trouble shoot.
Big thanks to everyone for the replies and input.
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Yeah that would be the best thing to do, and you get a new device lol.
I would request a new sim card just to get a new fresh start... just another thought. lol.
Mine is doing the same thing in good signal area after the signal comes back it goes down to 2g, I'm just returning the phone.
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I experienced that issue when I was using Juice defender. For some reason my phone went to airplane mode quite few times. If it would have happened frequently, then I would have thought that I somehow messed the settings for juice defender. It started happening abruptly. After uninstalling that app, I haven't seen that occurring again on my phone. At least for me it was the app rather than the phone that was causing my phone to go to airplane mode.
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I experienced that issue when I was using Juice defender. For some reason my phone went to airplane mode quite few times. If it would have happened frequently, then I would have thought that I somehow messed the settings for juice defender. It started happening abruptly. After uninstalling that app, I haven't seen that occurring again on my phone. At least for me it was the app rather than the phone that was causing my phone to go to airplane mode.
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Running completely stock other than Tapatalk right now and still having the issue. Waiting for my gf now then off to find an att with the white gs3 in stock
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Got a new one. Issue hasn't happened anywhere, but at my house lol but its whatever I'm on wifi when im home anyway. Guess its a tower issue, but still happy to know it wasnt my phone, so if anyone else is having this issue, hope this thread points you in the right direction a bit.
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Deep sleep

I am running stock att Kk rooted. My phone deep sleeps like a baby but when I get on my phone I can watch the battery drain. When I look at the battery graph under battery I can see sleep straight line across then when I get on the phone it goes straight down almost. I could be on it for 20min and it will go down like 8%
I was wondering if it could just be my battery cause I am having problems on all roms. Plus I have Flashed this phone about 30 times and I have had it for over a year
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(Forgive the wordiness. I have a typing problem LOL)
I have an E980 too and was using the E980 stock ATT rom and also had issues.
Basically, the phone will work fine for a couple of hours after a reboot, but then all of a sudden, the phone would wake up (exit deep sleep; not screen turn on) and never sleep again.
Whenever this would happen I noticed a number of odd things happening (check to see if these are happening with you too!):
1) In battery usage, Android OS would suddenly consume 50-99% battery!! This is after hours of running the phone too. Usually, Android OS consumes 3-10% battery.
2) In Better Battery Stats, I had a lot of Wlan wakelocks. I use wifi a lot too, but these wakelocks would last for hours as soon as the phone stopped sleeping, whether wifi was connected or not.
3) In Better Battery Stats, there was a process called dhd_dpc that would run for the entire length of time since the phone was booted up
4) Phone would run warm with the screen off. Sometimes, it would get HOT. When you use the phone, it gets REALLY HOT.
5) According to Better Battery Stat's CPU usage history, once the wake occurs, the cpu will remain at 1.7GHz, even with phone asleep. Some roms I tried would have it scale down to 384MHz, but still, phone wouldn't enter Deep Sleep.
I tried everything to fix the issues and finally ended up flashing the E988 Hong Kong (I think) ROM and ALL my problems went away. The ROM works, but isn't designed for USA users. Yes, there's English, etc, but things like the Quick Remote app are meant for Chinese (Again, I think) users. It doesn't have USA cable company set top boxes like Verizon, etc.
Anyway, after having issues every single day since the E980 update, but lasting a full day on the E988 rom problem free (It's now been 2 full days and no issues still!!!!!), I realized that there was a problem greater than "User Error." I called AT&T up, dealt with their troubleshooting bullcrap (factory reset doesn't fix everything! I mean, I did it 4 times this week and the problem kept coming back with no apps installed!!! I didn't tell them this, but I also reflashed the ATT rom 3x too!!!!), and then they simply took a bug report and asked me to contact LG. I stumped them.
So then I called LG and after explaining all my symptoms and again dealing with me having to answer "yes" to all the girl's "Have you done this....?" questions, she put me on hold for a moment. She came back and told me that many issues have been reported by AT&T Optimus G Pro users (E980) and their software development team is already working on a new firmware version for our phone.
So in summary, the issue is due to bugs in the E980 firmware, but not in the other G Pro firmwares. According to LG customer support, they are already working on fixing the problems, but the girl didn't give me an ETA. Once LG finishes the fix, AT&T will have to review it and bloat the crap out of too, so it may take anywhere from a week to a few months before we get the fixed firmware.
Until then, you have two choices:
1) Live with it and pray that the next firmware comes sooner rather than later. I mean, they better be rushing this update!!!!!
2) Install the E988 stock firmware for now and use it until the next firmware comes out. Again, it isn't exactly the same as the E980 version, but it works and your phone won't be sick anymore.
spexwood said:
(Forgive the wordiness. I have a typing problem LOL)
I have an E980 too and was using the E980 stock ATT rom and also had issues.
Basically, the phone will work fine for a couple of hours after a reboot, but then all of a sudden, the phone would wake up (exit deep sleep; not screen turn on) and never sleep again.
Whenever this would happen I noticed a number of odd things happening (check to see if these are happening with you too!):
1) In battery usage, Android OS would suddenly consume 50-99% battery!! This is after hours of running the phone too. Usually, Android OS consumes 3-10% battery.
2) In Better Battery Stats, I had a lot of Wlan wakelocks. I use wifi a lot too, but these wakelocks would last for hours as soon as the phone stopped sleeping, whether wifi was connected or not.
3) In Better Battery Stats, there was a process called dhd_dpc that would run for the entire length of time since the phone was booted up
4) Phone would run warm with the screen off. Sometimes, it would get HOT. When you use the phone, it gets REALLY HOT.
5) According to Better Battery Stat's CPU usage history, once the wake occurs, the cpu will remain at 1.7GHz, even with phone asleep. Some roms I tried would have it scale down to 384MHz, but still, phone wouldn't enter Deep Sleep.
I tried everything to fix the issues and finally ended up flashing the E988 Hong Kong (I think) ROM and ALL my problems went away. The ROM works, but isn't designed for USA users. Yes, there's English, etc, but things like the Quick Remote app are meant for Chinese (Again, I think) users. It doesn't have USA cable company set top boxes like Verizon, etc.
Anyway, after having issues every single day since the E980 update, but lasting a full day on the E988 rom problem free (It's now been 2 full days and no issues still!!!!!), I realized that there was a problem greater than "User Error." I called AT&T up, dealt with their troubleshooting bullcrap (factory reset doesn't fix everything! I mean, I did it 4 times this week and the problem kept coming back with no apps installed!!! I didn't tell them this, but I also reflashed the ATT rom 3x too!!!!), and then they simply took a bug report and asked me to contact LG. I stumped them.
So then I called LG and after explaining all my symptoms and again dealing with me having to answer "yes" to all the girl's "Have you done this....?" questions, she put me on hold for a moment. She came back and told me that many issues have been reported by AT&T Optimus G Pro users (E980) and their software development team is already working on a new firmware version for our phone.
So in summary, the issue is due to bugs in the E980 firmware, but not in the other G Pro firmwares. According to LG customer support, they are already working on fixing the problems, but the girl didn't give me an ETA. Once LG finishes the fix, AT&T will have to review it and bloat the crap out of too, so it may take anywhere from a week to a few months before we get the fixed firmware.
Until then, you have two choices:
1) Live with it and pray that the next firmware comes sooner rather than later. I mean, they better be rushing this update!!!!!
2) Install the E988 stock firmware for now and use it until the next firmware comes out. Again, it isn't exactly the same as the E980 version, but it works and your phone won't be sick anymore.
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id be shocked if we got anymore updates from lg.
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id be shocked if we got anymore updates from lg.
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This came from LG itself. Yeah, it was the customer service, but it was LG too. When the customer service tells you this kind of thing, it's usually true since it says it on their troubleshooting computer prompt.
Plus this isn't an update just in the sake of updating (like going from Jelly Bean to Kitkat), but an update to fix their pretty serious mistakes. They'd be extremely stupid to leave the firmware as it is now since it's currently broken. The KK update broke not only the AT&T OGP, but also every LG phone sold by a US mobile carrier. This includes the AT&T G2 and Verizon G2 as well.
EDIT: Actually, I was wrong. The G2 already received updates to fix issues. If they get updates to fix broken software, I'm sure we will too.
If they left the update as-is, they'd risk pissing off any current customers and driving away any future ones. In fact, they'd risk losing their entire US market. So I'm certain they'll release a "fix" update soon. I know LG has a bad update track record, but as far as I know, the firmwares they leave on their phones at least work. This is different. Nothing works correctly, and they would want to fix it.
EDIT: BTW, if you're using the E988, then yeah, any further updates may not happen. That firmware at least works.

Question General 12.1 issues, am I the only one?

Edit: I changed the title of this thread to general 12.1 issues bc I've been noticing more stuff. The list so far is:
1. Vibration strength for notifications is ridiculously weak now
2. Lock screen as detailed below in this post
3. Heating up quite a bit listening to music. Am on wifi, using pixel buds A series
4. Battery drain. Been off charger since about 8:40am 100%, listening to music for just over an hour, now at 80%.
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Another weird bug I noticed with 12.1 is that whenever my screen locks, it briefly shows "No notifications" in the middle of the screen before showing the fingerprint icon. This only seems to happen when I disabled the huge 2 line clock.
Just like with the weak notification vibrate strength thread I started, I'm asking if anyone else is seeing this too or if it's just me. Also, anyone on 13 DP2, do you see this?
Trying to work out if I should bite the bullet and do a factory reset or if these are just known things bc if I don't have to reset, I won't.
James
How do you change the huge clock?
I'm speculating a little, but since you say "This only seems to happen when I disabled the huge 2 line clock", I would suggest that a factory reset won't help.
Note, I'm not on the March update yet.
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How do you change the huge clock?
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Go to settings>display>lock screen>double line clock toggle
roirraW edor ehT said:
I'm speculating a little, but since you say "This only seems to happen when I disabled the huge 2 line clock", I would suggest that a factory reset won't help.
Note, I'm not on the March update yet.
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This is exactly why I'm asking haha. However, I think a factory reset is getting more and more plausible because now, I am listen to music at work as I usually do and my phone is getting real hot as well as battery draining quick. Unreal that google holds back this specific update to ensure no major bugs and this happens. I had no issues with the December update they actually pulled, no issues with Jan, and only a couple little dumb issues with Feb. Battery, vibration, heat, etc are all major issues. The lock screen thing, not so much but if others aren't having the issue, then I shouldn't be also. I am going to change the title of this thread to general 12.1 issues bc I'm getting off topic from the lock screen question.
James
It's true. The battery is worse than it was. Notification vibration is generally a nightmare. My phone is constantly on silent, so it's important for me to have a strong vibration.By the way, we've added a new fingerprint unlock animation.
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1. Vibration strength for notifications is ridiculously weak now
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I am one of those who rely on vibration at work, and I can absolutely confirm that its much weaker after the update that I took mid morning.
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I am one of those who rely on vibration at work, and I can absolutely confirm that its much weaker after the update that I took mid morning.
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Definitely submit feedback on this through the settings. This is absolutely unacceptable that they totally killed vibration strength on just the 6 series, either by design or a bug.
Can't repeat the screen lock screen error, but this vibration thing is wild.
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Can't repeat the screen lock screen error, but this vibration thing is wild.
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Send feedback! Hopefully if a ton of people complain, Google will actually acknowledge this. Only other thing I can think of is the pixel community and a bug report
I thought I was going crazy because of the vibration. It is noticably weaker. I haven't seen any significant battery drain though. Sorry. Compared to some bugs, this isn't too bad.
I also noticed a much weaker vibration strength after the update. I did a search in Settings for vibration and got a "vibration & haptics" settings. All sliders were on the left. Once I pulled them back to the middle, vibration strength seems to be normal again (as far as I remember).
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This is exactly why I'm asking haha. However, I think a factory reset is getting more and more plausible because now, I am listen to music at work as I usually do and my phone is getting real hot as well as battery draining quick. Unreal that google holds back this specific update to ensure no major bugs and this happens. I had no issues with the December update they actually pulled, no issues with Jan, and only a couple little dumb issues with Feb. Battery, vibration, heat, etc are all major issues. The lock screen thing, not so much but if others aren't having the issue, then I shouldn't be also. I am going to change the title of this thread to general 12.1 issues bc I'm getting off topic from the lock screen question.
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I never had an issue, even with the December update that was pulled.
I'm beginning to wonder about different production runs of this device.
I missed out on the opening day, nothing but 500 errors trying to order the phone.
I got my 256G jobbie on the next restock and received it in December.
(I originally was going for the 512G but I didn't want to wait until sometime in 2022.)
I couldn't order until November 9, and received my device in th second week of December.
So I hear and read about complaints, and I had none.
Even today, with my phone is on my desk, vibration is just fine.
It gets my attention and I didn't notice a thing.
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I never had an issue, even with the December update that was pulled.
I'm beginning to wonder about different production runs of this device.
I missed out on the opening day, nothing but 500 errors trying to order the phone.
I got my 256G jobbie on the next restock and received it in December.
(I originally was going for the 512G but I didn't want to wait until sometime in 2022.)
I couldn't order until November 9, and received my device in th second week of December.
So I hear and read about complaints, and I had none.
Even today, with my phone is on my desk, vibration is just fine.
It gets my attention and I didn't notice a thing.
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I never had a major issue until this 12.1 update as well. This is so weird. I was able to order my phone on announcement day and received it on launch day in October. Phone has literally been as close to perfect as it could be (again just a few minor annoyances but nothing major).
This is making the case for a wipe even stronger. Ugh. Has anyone that has experienced these issues perform a wipe and had it fix these things, especially the weak vibration?
When you say your vibration is fine, I am assuming you updated to 12.1 and the vibration is the same as it was on the Feb 12.0 release and earlier?
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I never had a major issue until this 12.1 update as well. This is so weird. I was able to order my phone on announcement day and received it on launch day in October. Phone has literally been as close to perfect as it could be (again just a few minor annoyances but nothing major).
This is making the case for a wipe even stronger. Ugh. Has anyone that has experienced these issues perform a wipe and had it fix these things, especially the weak vibration?
When you say your vibration is fine, I am assuming you updated to 12.1 and the vibration is the same as it was on the Feb 12.0 release and earlier?
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Yes. I haven't noticed a difference, it's still just as strong as it was before March.
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I also noticed a much weaker vibration strength after the update. I did a search in Settings for vibration and got a "vibration & haptics" settings. All sliders were on the left. Once I pulled them back to the middle, vibration strength seems to be normal again (as far as I remember).
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Mine are all maxed out. I even put them down to off, restarted the phone both soft and hard (holding the power button what seems like an hour to perform) and moved them all back up to max. No difference.
Vibration hasn't changed for me, still wants to shake the house down.
Not got any of the other issues you have listed either fortunately, not that it helps you though
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Send feedback! Hopefully if a ton of people complain, Google will actually acknowledge this. Only other thing I can think of is the pixel community and a bug report
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Been reading that this has been going on since the beta, which makes it sound like a choice.
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Been reading that this has been going on since the beta, which makes it sound like a choice.
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Yes but there is some hope, some say their vibration hasn't changed. Anyone factory reset with weak vibration and the reset fixed it?
I haven't really noticed any change in my vibration strength, for whatever that's worth.

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