Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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hi, i have switched from s21u(exy) and battery on p6 pro is amazing comparing to samsung(9h+ p6 pro / 6h s21u - same usage)(p6pro 42h/one charge / s21u/28h) . not only battery, i like the mini rounded corners of p6 pro, software is good enough(its new), will be better after fex fixes.
Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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yeah, right now best choice, i am selling my s21u
Thanks might get it ordered today and pass down the s21 ultra to the lad
After the Pixel 1 stopped getting updates two years ago, my wife and I finally upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB model, because for the first couple of years after the Pixel 1, I was waiting to buy another Pixel until they came out with a 256 GB model, and then by the time they did, I needed a 512 GB model so I still waited.
The Note 10+ hardware is great. I hate the software. I use my personal phone for my work too, my work uses Google for everything, and apparently, it's common with Samsung devices that they have sporadic syncing of GMail and Chat/Hangouts. When I told my brother about the problem I was having (and I did try deep-diving settings about not optimizing for battery usage, and not killing in the background, and even factory reset), my brother, who had only just bought his family their first smartphones maybe 4 years ago and go the Galaxy S9+, said that he assumed that's just the way Android is. It's not. I never encountered such bad GMail and chat syncing and notification behavior on any other phone.
For chat-type notifications, it was hit and miss whether I would receive timely ones. I could never narrow down what made the difference. For GMail, sometimes I wouldn't get a notification of an email until 45 minutes to even 2 hours later. Multi-tasking on the work computer, sometimes I wouldn't look at my GMail browser tab for long periods of time, and my boss likes to use chat quite often too. Half the time, I did happen to see the email in the browser tab, read it, and even deleted it (for non-critical things), and then later on my Samsung would let me know I have that "new" email. I already saw it and deleted it! Crazy.
There were other things Samsung gimped compared to other phones (Do Not Disturb...), and it also managed to duplicate all my contacts in a way that they're not recognized as duplicates so they can't be automatically de-duped.
Thankfully, back on the P6P 512 GB bandwagon, I no longer have those issues, and we quickly sold our Note 10+'s. So my answer is I'd trade any Samsung for a Pixel. Loved the Samsung hardware, but the software just doesn't cut it for me. The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
Oh yeah - I haven't had any issues with my battery life in the month I've had the phone. For the last five years, I never quick charge any phone, I only charge once the phone gets down to 25%, and I take the phone off the charger at 75%. I never charge overnight. The Pixel 6/Pro have Adaptive Charge to help battery life, but my 25-75% battery range lasts me 24 hours normally anyway. I don't own any quick chargers except my original Pixel 1 charger, and I don't use it.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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If multiple days of battery life is a bad thing, or the camera is too good for you.... you might want to stick with the samdung.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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I did the same thing, and battery is good after about a week or two. You have to give the adaptive battery time to learn your habits. Not sure where you heard the camera is bad. That's the best part of the phone.
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The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
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There are 10 billion options for capacitive screen pokey things on Amazon. I can't tell you which ones I have, because I can't read the font they used to identify themselves, but works pretty good.
Owning currently both devices here I can maybe share a few thoughts, subjective of course as many of those base on what I like/dislike:
Pro S21 Ultra:
+ build quality
+ display quality
+ overall maturity of the software
+ better standby drain
Pro Pixel 6 Pro:
+ genuine, clean Android with less bloat
+ snappier UI
+ active battery life
+ Camera: much lower noise and much better dynamic range in low light
+ Camera: less heavy-handed noise-reduction/resharpening
+ (slightly) less weight
+ much more development friendly (no hassle bootloader unlock without lost warranty, no Knox.....)
All in all I like both phones, what makes me moving back to the S21 Ultra (or maybe again Mi 11U) is memory - sadly Google only sells the P6P with max 256GB in Germany which I find a bit too small for my purpose.....
And a few more words on the camera: Samsung has its own way in image processing and in many cases this leads to loss of details in grass/leaves/.... which I dislike. The Pixel 6 Pro gives much better results here, as with many indoor shots specifically of pets/kids.... So overall I much prefer the Pixel camera, this doesn't mean the Samsung camera is bad, though - it isn't !
The only thing I like about my s21 ultra is the display screen. Other than that, 6 pro tops it off. (The 6 pro is on par with the iPhone 13 max's camera btw) With the exception of the video quality of course. The iPhone is still the king for shooting high quality videos.
I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I think a lot of what you're putting down as negatives against P6P comes down to gservices and broken "pixel features". I'm running pure (google free) AOSP on mine. I pulled it off the charger this morning at 5:30 (7.5 hours ago). Currently have 1.5 hr screen on time and the battery is at 92%, and so far the battery gauge appears to be pretty linear. I've also NOT noticed ANY substantial heating up. It runs pretty cool consistently -- note that heat comes from the battery, so it makes sense.
Also, there is no magic battery BS in AOSP.
I upgraded from a Note 20 Ultra 512Gb and the battery on my P6P is phenomenal compared to the Note 20. There have been issues for some on the P6P but I've been using my 512Gb unlocked variant with no issue at all. Just make sure you set your P6P from scratch and don't transfer data from your S21 Ultra. Also the standby drain is the best I've ever had, took it off the charger at 9PM at 100% and at 8:30 the next morning was at 99%. Not everyone is having the same results that I have.
I had both for a while. S21 ultra for the last 9 months. Tested them side by side . I don't think the pixel is better than the s21 in any single way, they are actually so similar. I prefer the maturer Samsung email and calendar software but that's subjective. The biggest difference, which matters for me was that the pixel has more global 5g and LTE bands than the s21. I used Nova and mimicked the s21 completely. Really couldn't tell the difference except screen better on s21 IMHO.
if I didn't already own the s21 I would have bought the pixel but because they are so similar and it isn't an upgrade but more a move to the side, the change didn't make sense.
Display, build quality, signal quality and probably smoothness are all better on the s21U. However I prefer the camera on the P6P and also Pixel Android to OneUI. The S21U is a solid, well built device and I don't think the P6P is an upgrade, if anything it's a slight downgrade.
Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
Stick with the S21 Ultra. I went from a Note 20 Ultra to the Pixel 6 Pro. I love the camera, the better speakers, cleaner software experience, but overall it doesn't feel like an upgrade. The 5G reception is slightly worse, Android 12 has lots of quirks, charging speeds are much slower, and customization is currently very limited. It's possible that it will improve with updates and custom ROMs but its current state is underwhelming. To be honest, I'm already looking forward to the S22 Ultra.
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Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
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Yep, no bad sides to rooting or later unrooting at all, just jump through some well established hoops as far as banking apps are concerned. It didn't bother me and it was the first time I ever did what I needed for safety net and banking apps to not know I'm rooted. No one can tell you ever had it rooted if you re-lock the bootloader after restoring to 100% stock and then factory reset, which will re-disable the OEM unlock option on Developer Options.
You just never can automatically update to each months OTA, have to follow the proper manual procedure to update and stay rooted. I did it every month for over three years that I had the Pixel 1.
If you value the camera, root and stock Android then get the Pixel. If you don't value those then stick with the S21U. I came from the S21U so I can honestly tell you that the S21U is definitely a better all around device but the fact that I can root really made my decision easier to go with the Pixel. No, the Pixel isn't any smoother than the S21U as I've had both; they are pretty much the same in the smoothness department. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves.
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Hi, I am hoping some of you can help me
I am currently using the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge in the UK. I have had this for 2 years and generally I am very happy with it. Right now the battery life does suffer a little, and on long days I am preserving its use for it to last me as much as can be, but generally I am very satisfied with it.
Right now through Black Friday there are some very nice S9 deals. I can get it for zero upfront, £38 a month on a 24 month contract with 25GB of Data. As it gets closer to Black Friday, I may even be able to get it cheaper so it is very appealing. Question is.. should I?? Right now I am paying £20 for SIM only so this will be a little jump in price.
I LOVE the look of the S9. I also love the look of the S8 actually but the idea of a better speaker in the S9 really draws me in plus the fact that suprisingly, the S9 have better deals at the moment. I know the S10 is right round the corner, but unless this comes with significant improvements I dont think I will be tempted by what will be at least to begin with big prices.
There is just one nagging concern that is stopping me from purchasing at the moment - the battery. What do people advise? How are people getting on with the S9 with this that have ideally upgraded from the S7 edge which people generally praised for its battery? I plan on using my devices for a minimum of 3 years. Is the S9 good for this? Or would you advise me waiting to see what the S10 has in stock? Even though it is unlikely I will want to pay anything more than £45 a month (tops!) for my contract?
Some help and advise really would be massively appreciated!
S9 battery is a weak point. I use the phone constantly on battery saver mode. This way i get an extra hour to around 4.30SOT. if you are a heavy user, this aint it. Exynos battery optimization is very poor. But i would suggest you to go for Note 9 or even a S9+ for the extra camera and battery.
Also, you can't enjoy full resolution and you have to downgrade and use at FHD+ for battery.
Ram management takes a hit with massive battery saving tricks you are forced to do. The phone also heats up a lot. Charging times are not that great. Camera quality deteriorated over months.
With this phone you have to extra careful with drops. It costs me 300USD for a small crack on screen.
The positives are the usual. Speakers are great. Screen is awesome. Samsung pay is life saving. Wireless charging. IP68. Headphone jack! SD card!
I would say Note 9 or S9+
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S9 battery is a weak point. I use the phone constantly on battery saver mode. This way i get an extra hour to around 4.30SOT. if you are a heavy user, this aint it. Exynos battery optimization is very poor. But i would suggest you to go for Note 9 or even a S9+ for the extra camera and battery.
Also, you can't enjoy full resolution and you have to downgrade and use at FHD+ for battery.
Ram management takes a hit with massive battery saving tricks you are forced to do. The phone also heats up a lot. Charging times are not that great. Camera quality deteriorated over months.
With this phone you have to extra careful with drops. It costs me 300USD for a small crack on screen.
The positives are the usual. Speakers are great. Screen is awesome. Samsung pay is life saving. Wireless charging. IP68. Headphone jack! SD card!
I would say Note 9 or S9+
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Hmm, ok.. I really wish that was a more positive response regarding the battery But I really appreciate your honest and in depth review!
For £38 a month would you not go for this then? put up against the S7 edge would you not say it is a worthwhile upgrade?
I will start looking at the S9 + and the Note9 although I have to say I am not so keen on the prices they offer....lets see what black Friday brings!
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Hmm, ok.. I really wish that was a more positive response regarding the battery But I really appreciate your honest and in depth review!
For £38 a month would you not go for this then? put up against the S7 edge would you not say it is a worthwhile upgrade?
I will start looking at the S9 + and the Note9 although I have to say I am not so keen on the prices they offer....lets see what black Friday brings!
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Only a few users have terrible battery life like that, it's not the greatest but with everything on maximum performance, all radios enabled (not BT), auto brightness around 50% most of the time, I can easily get 5 hours SoT with normal usage, when I got the phone I was averaging 6-7 hours SoT, but obviously the more apps you install...
Talking about the S9 flat here, the S9 plus has a bigger battery same as your 7 Edge did
I upgraded from the S7 flat and it was a very nice upgrade, I would not switch back, faster, a lot nicer design, (Get a case though, the bezels are very small and using the camera without accidentally touching the screen is difficult without a case), camera is very nice indeed, I wouldn't say it was a huge step up from the S7 especially with RAW / Pro mode, but with the new f1.5 low light ability it is definitely a step up in certain scenarios
Personally I would say yes it is still a worthwhile upgrade from the S7/Edge
Hey there!
I moved from the s6 to the s9 after my s6 died. Honestly, I didn't feel a big upgrade. If my s6 was working I would probably return the s9. Your s7 edge is a very nice phone. I'd say if money isnt a big issue, wait for the s10.
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Only a few users have terrible battery life like that, it's not the greatest but with everything on maximum performance, all radios enabled (not BT), auto brightness around 50% most of the time, I can easily get 5 hours SoT with normal usage, when I got the phone I was averaging 6-7 hours SoT, but obviously the more apps you install...
Talking about the S9 flat here, the S9 plus has a bigger battery same as your 7 Edge did
I upgraded from the S7 flat and it was a very nice upgrade, I would not switch back, faster, a lot nicer design, (Get a case though, the bezels are very small and using the camera without accidentally touching the screen is difficult without a case), camera is very nice indeed, I wouldn't say it was a huge step up from the S7 especially with RAW / Pro mode, but with the new f1.5 low light ability it is definitely a step up in certain scenarios
Personally I would say yes it is still a worthwhile upgrade from the S7/Edge
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Thanks for your thoughts. I am going to closely monitor the price for the next fortnight. With really good feedback I think I would go for it right now. Having read multiple reviews now I am leaning towards seeing what the s10 can offer, especially battery wise.
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Hey there!
I moved from the s6 to the s9 after my s6 died. Honestly, I didn't feel a big upgrade. If my s6 was working I would probably return the s9. Your s7 edge is a very nice phone. I'd say if money isnt a big issue, wait for the s10.
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Thanks for your reply! I am starting to think that!
I second waiting to see how the S10 plays out since you are planning on keeping your new phone for the long haul. I actually just purchased a used S9 and am very happy with it (haven't had it long enough to comment on battery life). If you can afford the up front cost, the used market for mint/very good handsets is very competitive right now. However, the launch/trade-in deals for the S10 should put you in the ballpark of the S9 deals you are seeing now.
Edit: Plus, S9/S9+ deals should be great after S10 launches.
I've been the Galaxy as a daily driver since the S8 came out, and when the 9 was released I upgraded.
The S8 size was pretty decent, but when I went to the S9, it was a tad bigger and noticeably heavier. Honestly I like smaller phones. The S9+/Note phones are just too big for me.
Pros: Great screen, great camera, I get decently fast charging time.
Cons:
-Battery life is "fair". For work I use my phone a lot to research on ebay and take pictures. It just doesn't seem enough. I've tried some optimizations such as FHD+, black background, black theme, battery saver programs, no major social media apps running ( usually i used the web based) and I am a bit disappointed. If I use my phone a fair amount in the morning I feel like I will be low later on and will need to charge. Honestly that seems to be one of my bigger drawbacks. If I could get a full day of use from early in the morning to the evening no problem, I'd be good.
- Samsung lag. Oh yes it's here. When going from ebay app to camera, to stock sms app, youtube, I get hiccups more than I'd like to see. I have animations to .5x to make things feel snappier, but I just wish the optimization was better. I won't switch to an iphone, but man after playing with an iphone and seeing how fluid it is, I am a bit envious. I won't switch to Apple, that's just me. Sometimes the auto-rotate doesn't seem to respond as smooth as iPhone.
- The edge screen. Meh. Was cool at first, but it makes glass protectors difficult. You have to pretty much go with Whitestone dome glass, and it's expensive. And then that breaks and you need another $35. I am exploring other options and recently found a glass protector that uses loca glue and UV application just like the whitestone for $18 on Amazon. It has arrived, just haven't put it on yet. I can live without the edge screen.
Today I tested out the Google Pixel 3 at Best Buy. Surprisingly it was only a tad smaller than the S9, but it did weigh less. But maybe that small difference in size does help better with one handed use. Pixel 3 is on Android P, and I played around with it and it was very fluid like the iPhone. I have a promo with T-Mobile on a payment plan for my S9, but if i could just jump right over to the Pixel 3 I would.
I'm hoping Android P will make things better, more optimized and better battery life. Personally, if you have to get a phone now, I like the Pixel 3. Since I'm stuck in a promo paying for this S9, I will most likely upgrade to the S10 when it comes out.
Jeez, I can't stand reading "samsung lag". Now let's be honest and call it "Android lag", because out of 100 different Android phones just Pixels and OnePlus do not show *any* type of stuttering *ever*.
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For £38 a month would you not go for this then? put up against the S7 edge would you not say it is a worthwhile upgrade?
I will start looking at the S9 + and the Note9 although I have to say I am not so keen on the prices they offer....lets see what black Friday brings!
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If you like the phone bro get it. I own S9, Nokia 7.1, Essential Phone, OnePlus 6, & Pixel 2. All are more or less the same on battery life. Use adaptive brightness & close apps you're not using. Other than that leave Android to do it's job at RAM management, etc. I heavily use my S9 because it's my newest toy and I consistently get 6+ hours of SOT. I don't play games on my phone or do prolonged video streaming.
Hope that helps
Upgraded from the S7 to the S9 for around 400€. It is not worth the money imho. The design is great, no question, the fingerprint sensor is way faster - but other than that there is not much to gain here. The camera is marginally better but not worth the money and the battery life is quite disappointing. I would wait for the S10 or other phones next year.
sot from s9+?
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Hi, I am hoping some of you can help me
I am currently using the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge in the UK. I have had this for 2 years and generally I am very happy with it. Right now the battery life does suffer a little, and on long days I am preserving its use for it to last me as much as can be, but generally I am very satisfied with it.
Right now through Black Friday there are some very nice S9 deals. I can get it for zero upfront, £38 a month on a 24 month contract with 25GB of Data. As it gets closer to Black Friday, I may even be able to get it cheaper so it is very appealing. Question is.. should I?? Right now I am paying £20 for SIM only so this will be a little jump in price.
I LOVE the look of the S9. I also love the look of the S8 actually but the idea of a better speaker in the S9 really draws me in plus the fact that suprisingly, the S9 have better deals at the moment. I know the S10 is right round the corner, but unless this comes with significant improvements I dont think I will be tempted by what will be at least to begin with big prices.
There is just one nagging concern that is stopping me from purchasing at the moment - the battery. What do people advise? How are people getting on with the S9 with this that have ideally upgraded from the S7 edge which people generally praised for its battery? I plan on using my devices for a minimum of 3 years. Is the S9 good for this? Or would you advise me waiting to see what the S10 has in stock? Even though it is unlikely I will want to pay anything more than £45 a month (tops!) for my contract?
Some help and advise really would be massively appreciated!
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Its a good phone, I have the Exynnos variant and battery life sucks but otherwise its great, speakers are great on it, much better than my works iPhone 8, the screen is great also, I don't normally like Samsung but I really like this, plus it has a headphone jack.
But the battery life is the major downside, I would certainly get a good battery bank.
Finally if I was to choose now I would likely get a Pixel 3 XL, 3 years of updates sounds amazing to me.
If you do more than just the basics, get the Plus or Note. I got the straight S9 because it was on offer (30GB on EE no upfront cost £32/month) and although it was a steal it's a pain in the arse. I have the smartwatch and a Pokeball (So that's 2 bluetooth devices it's trying to keep up with) and play Pokemon Go with messaging apps and an overlay, and it's doing all this kind of stuff at once, 4GB is nowhere near enough RAM on Android. iOS could manage it easily, but Android is not iOS...
The result is it lags like crazy. Usually just as I want to do something quickly like take a photo and it sits and chugs for a minute (presumably out of memory and using storage as swap space) instead. Or the fingerprint reader will take like 5 seconds to register and unlock. I regret skimping, and wish I'd just splashed out and waited for the Note.
It seems that this phone has a lot of issues and problems that are constantly being ignored or not cared about by Samsung.
Is this phone worth it, or am I better off selling it and buying an A50 which seems to have the attention of Samsung? Because The A50 has gotten so many updates compared to the A70 that is still on Security patch level: May.
I've had an A70 for about a month now and it's one of the best phones I've ever had. Battery averages at two days, screen is bright and always legible in bright sunlight, phone is fast and smooth. Fingerprint unlock used to be crap but updates have made it work ok. Face recognition is good. Camera is pretty good - again it's improving with updates.
I think it's the best phone for the price.
I'm really happy with mine but yeah the fingerprint reader isn't the best but it's still a great phone
Have not had any problem with this phone. To be honest, worth every Penny I paid for it.
At the moment I don't have one as my contract is due for an upgrade in October. But I as usual I have been doing research about this device and I must say the pro out weighs the cons by a mile. All the you tube reviews from unboxing to month on reviews are all positive. I am even overlooking the A80 as the A70 offers so much more for my money. Stick to your phone bud. You are in the teething phase now
I have been using a V30 and S8+ for the last year (1 was a personal device and the other as work phone). Performance on both phones was identical, with the key differences being the camera (better on the v30) and the ergonomics (v30 won this as well). Most recently I purchased the A70 and have been using it as my daily driver for the last 2 weeks or so. I have the A70 setup exactly the same way as both the V30/S8+. Same apps, settings, etc. I can say from a performance point of view, I have not missed the V30/S8+ at all. The A70 runs the same apps without any noticeable performance difference. I am not a huge gamer but there are a few that are always installed on my phones.. and they run the exact same on the A70, as they did on the S8+/V30. I haven't seen a difference in load times, or graphics and performance has been the same. Camera quality is pretty good. I thought Id miss the wide angle from the V30 but the A70 has it as well. Front camera on the A70 is much better than both the S8 and the nearly useless front cam on the v30. Battery life is fantastic. I get 2 days usage from the A70, whereas the S8+ gave me 1 day. Audio quality to my ears is the same. That is a lot considering the A70 runs on the SD675 and the V30/S8+ on the SD 835. The display is crisp and what you expect from a samoled. I would say yes, the phone is def worth it. Removable storage, huge battery, fantastic 1080p display, BT 5.0. and great performance. This phone has met all my expectations.. and I am glad I bought this rather than an s10+ which is more than double the cost of this phone.
Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
Yes i'm totally happy with my a70, not a perfect device but exceeded my expectations by miles
I will list cons only here:
1-white colour has a tint to it, but no problem may be the amoled nature or my calibration
2-prefer stock android, but one ui is so good
3-no twrp or easy root and custom roms yet, but i will wait
4-no stereo speakers, but the included speaker is loud enough
other than than all are pros not cons
I like it. it's not perfect but it has better native apps than most phones I've owned.
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work
but the phone has a night mode for its settings. has a great onboard keyboard. it has its own app store, theme store.
File explorer is very usable. I'm off 3rd party apps for the most part.
The music app is super fast to load the artworks. Sees most artworks. takes 48 hours but indexed my 300GB music and loads entire list (all have artworks) in real time. Really imperfect but very fast, great music app by Samsung.
Then there is the RAM Memory optimizer under settings; device care; then memory button. On other phones I have had lately, this can take a long time. Have to go in apps in settings and do each one individually.
My phone gets 1 bar of signal strength less than my other phones but despite that I love this phone.
Fingerprint reader performance is livable. (A sweaty thumb on glossy glass is prone to cause difficulties with finger print reading, even on Iphones. So I can deal with it. - Try storing fingerprint data with a wet finger? Seems to have helped.)
The camera with the G-cam app is very good, and even so I still find myself using the Samsung camera app more often for its features and the polish of the app. - The panoramic shot is a full 360 degrees and better than my Iphone7. I like the hyperlapse and slowmotion. HOwever, this phone is definitely not a camera phone and won't take steady videos.
The native file explorer app and video player app are great.
The 20:9 aspect ratio is perfect for phones. You get so much usable real estate and yet a slimmer form factor that is much more practical for one handed use and for keeping in your pockets.
I love the ONE UI interface. I have it navigation bar set to invisble and I'm using gestures.
Compared to my previous phone it's thinner as well and feels great. It does not feel like a cheap phone at all. It feels solid and well produced.
I have the one in white. Paid $370 for it.
I got the samsung a70. I like the phone's 6.7 inch display. But the aspect ratio makes it a bit narrow. That's why I'm thinking about getting the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think I should stay with this phone or buy the mate 20x?
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fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work.
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Register 3 fingerprints of the same finger and it'll work seamlessly.
ok. I may try that. I have already but for some reason I deleted the first two or three, hoping one clear one.
Hey look at this RAM management screenshot. Whisked away Youtube's 150MB mess and a bunch of others.
Which one shuld i buy?
alsartawi said:
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
alsartawi said:
the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
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Seems like the Mi9T doesn't have an SD slot?
I have my A70 for a good amount of time to speak about it.
I really like the device. It's fast, reliable and it was a surprise to me that it can hold two sim cards and a microSD card at first. I remember that I was astornished by it's beautiful, shiny back, but that's a personal prefference. I only found 3 problems with this phone that gladly doesn't bother me that much.
Starting with the back, it's really, REALLY easy to scratch it. Mine, even if it was in the case, have some scuffs on the back. It's plastic, not as much resistable as the glass is, but I was aware of that when I was buying it. Kinda shame.
Secondly, the bezels are very small and I have big hands so sometinmes I touch the screen when I don't want to or being aware of. A bigger case like one of those armor cases should fix my issue, but that adds to the size of the phone which, I am not sure if I want right now.
Lastly, the cursed fingerprint scanner. It doesn't work all the times, but the updates seems to give it a bit of speed and accuracy, failed attempts to read out the fingerprint significantly decreases.
Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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I own the a70. But I'm thinking of switching to the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think its worth buying the mate 20x and selling the a70 for half an inch inch difference in screen size?
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3 months since I bought this awesome phone. I have no regrets. Biggest pros are 2 sim + sd card simultaneously and the huge 4500 mah battery
Of course the big main screen is the #1 positive.
If anything is going to break this deal its
#1 the small cover screen first and foremost.
#2 it's the cameras but I've been surprisingly OK with the ZF3 shots lately.
How Bout you?
i shifted to all apple last year and im so in love with my iphone 12 pro max, i love the eco system
but i still want to buy Samsung as i love the extra customization and its like tab and phone
my main concerns
are there any cases from rhinoshield or any well known brands? my phone falls to much from my hands
my last s20 ultra have so much focus issues that never wanted to go back to samsung, maybe i got a defective unit 12 pro max cam is awesome
the inside screen quality, i watched a durability test and the nails still damage the inner screen
I went the opposite way. I just returned my z-fold 3 because of the battery life and the cameras. The s-pen flip case was absolutely horrid. I just feel for a $1,900 phone, it was underwhelming. I'm hoping on the z-fold 4, they put the s-pen solo in the phone. It just wasn't the note replacement I hoped it would be. I ordered an s21 ultra 512 GB but I won't be here till the end of the month so I'm looking forward to that now.
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
I went from S21 Ultra to Fold 3, I certainly won't be going back to to a candy bar phone again. The cameras do a good enough job for me, the S21 camera array would have been nice, but I do wonder how much it would bump the price up.
I don't mind the outside screen either, certainly easier to type 1 handed, where the S21 U was quite wide to use like that.
I found this video the other day, regarding the cameras
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Maybe in your opinion but I have my own. The cameras are basically up to par with my Note 20 5G. Maybe you are willing to sacrifice to have a folding screen but I am not. Cellular reception also was worse and I have a feeling that is what was killing the battery. By all means enjoy your F3 and I'll enjoy my S21. Like I said, I am looking forward to the Fold 4.
I love my fold3. The battery life isn't great, but try turning off your 5G. That should help out quite a bit. Plus you won't be able to tell the difference with the speeds unless you're using ultra wideband.
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
S21U to ZF3. I've gotten settled into the Fold 3 after a few days - I had to swap out my email app of choice (Nine) for Outlook to help with the battery (Nine has always been a bit of a hog, but it tips the scales to "not a full day" whereas Outlook plays nicer). I'm now getting a full business day (12hrs) but not much more.
I've got a little stand and BT keyboard taking its place as an iPad Mini Pro as welll...
I will miss the S21U cameras (I still have it...not giving it up so quickly!) so it's def form vs. function.
My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Well, didn't usually carry the tablet with me as much as use it around the house. That said, yes. Not only is the tablet a second battery, it's a larger second battery. I expected higher usage, I just didn't expect as much as I should have. I do have the ability to bring a battery if needed, I just don't need to in most cases.
Totally get it. It's just helpful to think about the loss of the large 2nd battery
dezborders said:
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I took the ZF3 and S21U out together today and did camera tests on my own and was amazed how well the ZF3 matched the S21U. (cept for zoom and macro)
Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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S21u outside of USA and SK has the "inferior" Exynos chip which has different performance and heat management (and also different ISP for processing images taken with cameras)
It's a difficult question ... Upgrade from S21u to F3?
Personally I'd say if you want to try foldable phones the F3 is the one to go for
If camera is most important to you stick with the S21U
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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As a phone enthusiast (read addict), I have owned in the last 12 months.... Note 20 Ultra, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Xiaomi Mi 11 5g, S21 ultra and now the Z Fold3.
The Fold 3 is 1000s times more advanced and exciting to use than any of the other devices mentioned above... however the Z range cameras are stuck at 12mp from 2019 S10 era.
I agree pictures taken with a Z Fold3 are good or even excellent in most cases....
however, if you claim 2.0 optical zoom in F3 is technically as good as 10x optical zoom in S21U , or thar 108MP with Laser autofocus on S21u is not "better" than basic 12mp main lens on the Z Fold, you are mistaken my friend
(and lets not even begin to discuss the 4 FOUR! megapixel under-screen-camera lol )
To clarify .... I ABSOLUTELTY LOVE my Z Fold3!
I just think Samsung has missed the opportunity to release the ULTIMATE "UNBEATABLE" smartphone by not including 2021 spec camera module from the S21 Ultra. (The Note range always matched or exceeded the cameras in the S range from 6 months previous so why not do the same with the Z range?).
So my main driver today is an S8+. Before this, I used an S8. I used to prefer smaller phones but I can see that going with a bigger phone has its fair share of advantages (and disadvantages, of course) so I'm really confused which one to get between the S22 and S22+. I saw both phones physically yesterday and compared them side by side. I think I'm ok with the size of the S22+ because I tend to use my phone with browsing forums and watching Youtube videos. I do not do gaming. Here are some of my main concerns:
1. Battery life -> I know the S22+ wins in this category but is 4500mAH vs 3700mAH really significant? I rarely upgrade my phone (evident by the fact that I'm still using S8+) so I want to know if going with a bigger battery (and size) is the wiser choice.
2. I also use my phone in bed before sleeping. With m S8+, my pinky finger serves servers as like a stand for the phone while I'm lying down and looking at the screen (I think most people do this) so I'm worried that getting a bigger 6.6" phone (S22+) will make my pinky finger hurt even more. Would getting a case with a strap at the back (like the official silicon case for the S22/S22+) solve this issue?
3. Is the difference in brightness level between the phones that significant?
4. Does the S22 have wifi 6 only or is it like the S22+ that has wifi 6E? I'm getting mixed information regarding this because some sites say that both have 6E while others say that only the S22+ and S22 Ultra have 6E.
Thanks in advance for the help!
The difference in size and weight between the S22+ and S8+ is negligible. Go for the S22+. Get the 256GB model. You'll like the extra storage space since the S22 series does not have a microSD slot.
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S22 battery life is absolutely ridiculous even with average use and no gaming. If I would start over again, I would go with +.
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The difference in size and weight between the S22+ and S8+ is negligible. Go for the S22+. Get the 256GB model. You'll like the extra storage space since the S22 series does not have a microSD slot.
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I just checked the website you linked to and I swear that when I compared the S8+ and S22+ in person, the difference in height was a bit significant and it isn't like the one in the website. Not sure why.
Yeah, the difference in price between the 128GB and 256GB variants isn't that significant so I'll definitely go with a 256GB variant. However, I never used a microSD slot on my S8+ anyway. I just transfer my photos to my NAS whenever the phone complained about low storage capacity and this is not something that I do often.
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S22 battery life is absolutely ridiculous even with average use and no gaming. If I would start over again, I would go with +.
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How ridiculous is it? I'm sure it's still better than my S8+ But yeah, I'm leaning more towards the S22+, for sure.
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I just checked the website you linked to and I swear that when I compared the S8+ and S22+ in person, the difference in height was a bit significant and it isn't like the one in the website. Not sure why.
Yeah, the difference in price between the 128GB and 256GB variants isn't that significant so I'll definitely go with a 256GB variant. However, I never used a microSD slot on my S8+ anyway. I just transfer my photos to my NAS whenever the phone complained about low storage capacity and this is not something that I do often.
How ridiculous is it? I'm sure it's still better than my S8+ But yeah, I'm leaning more towards the S22+, for sure.
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Well overnight battery drain of 12%. 85% to 20% from 6 Am to 2 pm with average use like whatsapp, data and wifi with a bit of maps. With even less use, it last about 7 pm.
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Don't even think about s22 it's very worst in terms of battery life also lagging like hell. Go with s22+ or better switch to iPhone. I am now regretting my decision of switching from iphone to s22.
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I just checked the website you linked to and I swear that when I compared the S8+ and S22+ in person, the difference in height was a bit significant and it isn't like the one in the website. Not sure why.
Yeah, the difference in price between the 128GB and 256GB variants isn't that significant so I'll definitely go with a 256GB variant. However, I never used a microSD slot on my S8+ anyway. I just transfer my photos to my NAS whenever the phone complained about low storage capacity and this is not something that I do often.
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Take the last two posts with a grain of salt. To be fair. The 128GB Exynos models (S22, S22+ and S22 Ultra) are having issues, but you can't get the Exynos here in the US.
My wife has the S22+ (256GB) and daughter has the S22 (256GB). Both get decent battery life and there is no lag or stuttering. They are much heavier users than I am with my S22 Ultra. They constantly are streaming videos and music. Both are the Snap Dragon models.
Are you sure were looking at the S22+ and not the S22 Ultra. There is a significant difference between the Ultra and the Plus.
The difference between the S22+ and the S8+ is really small. The S8+ is actually 0.08in longer than the S22+. The S22+ is 0.09in wider though. The weight difference is because the S22+ has a larger display and a bigger battery. The perceived difference is probably from the fact that the S22+ has smaller bezels which allows for a larger display. The screen to body ratio for the S22+ is 89.71%. Whereas the S8+ is 83.32%. That is a 6.39% increase which accounts for the 0.4in increase in display size.
Yeah. I do the same thing, offload my photos to my NAS. I don't wait until I am short on space though. I do it about every two to three weeks.
Ha ha... All the very best then.
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Don't get the S22 unless you're sadistic you like hurting yourself.
I left a few comments in other threads advising people to stay away from from this piece of crap because it's a complete fail due to the small battery inside paired with a very inefficient CPU.
So get the S22+ without even thinking of the small variant.
If I were you though, I'd skip this lineup completely. Qualcomm went with Samsung's node for the 8 Gen 1 and it was a complete fail. Samsung wasn't able to produce a good quality product. They moved back to TSMC though and the 8+ Gen 1, which is supposed to be a refresh with very small gains according to history so to speak, and the gains, especially in the efficiency department are pretty friggin extreme. 30% better efficiency for practically the same chip... Insane. You usually see that in a next generation chipset.
Back to the skipping the lineup completely, I'd wait a little longer and get a device with the new 8 Plus Gen 1 inside just because TSMC is simply superior at creating CPUs. Also it needs to be big, or at least bigger than the S22, otherwise you'll be in a world of pain. In the Android world, you gotta go big for decent battery life.
Here's the post in which I did some math: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/s22-or-s21.4439081/post-87020447
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Oh ok. So I just stay with my slow S8+ for now? How long does Samsung usually take to release their next flagship model? Are there any leaks about the 8+ Gen1 being on any phone soon? I'm pretty convince in going with a bigger phone than what I have now.
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Don't even think about s22 it's very worst in terms of battery life also lagging like hell. Go with s22+ or better switch to iPhone. I am now regretting my decision of switching from iphone to s22.
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Yeah, I'm not an Apple guy. I'd stick with Android for now. I just really need to have this sluggish and old phone upgraded. But dragos' post above got me thinking if I should wait more.
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Take the last two posts with a grain of salt. To be fair. The 128GB Exynos models (S22, S22+ and S22 Ultra) are having issues, but you can't get the Exynos here in the US.
My wife has the S22+ (256GB) and daughter has the S22 (256GB). Both get decent battery life and there is no lag or stuttering. They are much heavier users than I am with my S22 Ultra. They constantly are streaming videos and music. Both are the Snap Dragon models.
Are you sure were looking at the S22+ and not the S22 Ultra. There is a significant difference between the Ultra and the Plus.
The difference between the S22+ and the S8+ is really small. The S8+ is actually 0.08in longer than the S22+. The S22+ is 0.09in wider though. The weight difference is because the S22+ has a larger display and a bigger battery. The perceived difference is probably from the fact that the S22+ has smaller bezels which allows for a larger display. The screen to body ratio for the S22+ is 89.71%. Whereas the S8+ is 83.32%. That is a 6.39% increase which accounts for the 0.4in increase in display size.
Yeah. I do the same thing, offload my photos to my NAS. I don't wait until I am short on space though. I do it about every two to three weeks.
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Yeah, I'm from the Philippines and we also get the Snapdragon here, so no worries about Exynos.
Yeah, I'm sure I was looking at the S22+ and not the Ultra. I knew right away which one was the Ultra so I didn't even bother checking it out. But yeah, it might be just me getting excited to see them for the first time. I checked the dimensions on that website again and they are pretty spot on.
I'm now reading about the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 and it looks like it is indeed better than the 8 Gen 1. At this point, I'm not sure if I should wait for the next S series from Samsung (next year) or go with the upcoming Flip which will have the 8+ Gen 1 chip. I just don't like how long the Flip is but waiting for another half a year for probably the S23 will be very hard for me too
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I wasn't referring to getting a Samsung phone. The next Samsung flagship lineup will have the next gen chipsets. I was talking about a different device from a different company. If I were to really need an upgrade right now, I'd get a Pixel 6 Pro or a OnePlus 10 Pro. The 10 Pro has better hardware on paper so if that's your thing, I'd go for that. The battery inside is big and the phone apparently doesn't have any heating up issues or at least not the same as Samsung devices have. If you really want to stay with Samsung, the previous generation is better with unnoticeable performance differences but better battery life. Not to mention that you'd be able to get an S21 Plus for much cheaper.
Devices with the 8 Gen 1 Plus will be coming out in the next months. The 8 Gen 2 is apparently supposed to be made available in November so you can imagine that the Gen 1 Plus is really close to being put to use.
The idea is that the usage I get from my S22 is with normal usage. 3h SOT to me is terrible but my math is close to perfect and I've had constant numbers based on that. A person said to take the above comments with a grain of salt. I'm afraid it's not possible with the regular S22. The phone is a complete fail no matter how you look at it. If someone's is claiming they get good battery but the rest of the users are complaining that they don't, that means the phone has terrible battery life. An again, the math I did proves that there's too few milliamps for you to get good battery life. Also, the charging speed is pathetic. It would've made sense for the damn thing to charge faster if the battery life is terrible. That way you'd have had at least the option to plug it in for a few minutes ang get an extra 2 hours SOT just like that. A OP 10 Pro charges to 100% in 30 minutes. If I got 4h SOT on that, I honestly wouldn't even care about SOT anymore because I can leave it plugged in for 5 minutes and get a pretty fat chunk of battery back. Samsung basically ripped people off this year with a terrible phone.
My 2 cents though. You go on and do whatever you think is best, of course. But you asked for advice so my advice is to not get an S22. Get either an S22+ or a OP 10 Pro which is superior.
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It's statements like these that make me leery. It makes me wonder if the person making these statements are getting paid to.
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For the OP:
I agree with everything @dragos281993 said!
You can eventually get used to everything this phone does.. stutters, heating etc. But the biggest let down is the battery.
There is a lengthy discussion on battery here. Do check it out https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...agon-battery-life-and-heating-issues.4445195/
I'd honestly advice to stay away from S22. But if you really want it then at least get the S22+
But real advice, go for a different brand, maybe pixel or One plus. Or if you can live with ios, then get an iphone.
There are other phones coming soon. maybe the Nothing phone (will need to wait for the reviews). or if you can then wait for the year end, then im sure better phones will be out.
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I could say the same about you. Claiming that someone you know gets decent battery life or no lags and stutters is pretty crazy considering that the vast majority of users is experiencing the opposite. The phone overheats and it throttles down most of the time, especially if it's hot outside. Therefore the battery performs worse and you end up with framedrops everywhere, which not everyone cares about or notices. Lag is a different thing though and I wasn't talking about that in my other posts. Stutters/framedrops are very present.
I wish though that someone paid me to write comments on the internet. I can't imagine how that'd work though.
Anyway, I'm currently stuck with an S22 so I'm trying to help others understand why they should stay away from it, and warn them of the pain they're about to go through. The phone is trash and even Samsung knows it. The chip inside is too much for it to handle and the battery simply too small. I went quite in-depth in other threads on this matter, and I speak in milliamps and precise measurements because I experienced it myself. I even rooted it to try some power tweaks but nope, same results. I hate this thing so much I even rock it without any protection right now. If I drop it and it shatters into 1000 pieces, I won't be mad.
The frame is very easily scratched and the same goes for the screen. Mine both look like I dragged my phone on concrete. It's that bad in terms of durability too.
But you know what? I wish the guy who asked for help actually buys the S22. You can learn from others' mistakes and easily avoid disaster, or ignore that and experience it yourself, firsthand. My bet is he'll return it.
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Yeah... But I'm not using terms like "sadistic" and "hurting yourself."
I'm pretty sure getting a phone isn't sadistic nor will it hurt someone.
Thanks for the comments. I don't know why but I have a certain bias (or more appropriately, a "preference") towards Samsung. At this point though, I don't want to get the S22+ if it's a half-baked phone with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. I'm glad that I posted here before pushing through with the purchase. I don't know if I'll be able to wait until early next year for the S23 but it's not too far away.
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Thanks for the comments. I don't know why but I have a certain bias (or more appropriately, a "preference") towards Samsung. At this point though, I don't want to get the S22+ if it's a half-baked phone with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. I'm glad that I posted here before pushing through with the purchase. I don't know if I'll be able to wait until early next year for the S23 but it's not too far away.
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It's not a half baked phone. There are a few trolls on here that only speak for themselves. They make it seem like most people who bought one hate it. That's not even close to being true.
If you're going to wait for the S23 series, keep in mind that Samsung is cutting production numbers for next year because of the ongoing chip shortages.
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It's not a half baked phone. There are a few trolls on here that only speak for themselves. They make it seem like most people who bought one hate it. That's not even close to being true.
If you're going to wait for the S23 series, keep in mind that Samsung is cutting production numbers for next year because of the ongoing chip shortages.
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Well, looks like you own a S22 and its working well for you. I'm glad that it is. The OP asked for reviews/feedback so we as a community provided. You can provide your positive reviews and for the people who have had a bad experience will provide theirs.. Do remember that just because your S22 is good does not mean everyone has the same experience.. Lets just provide the feedback and let the OP take a call instead of pointing fingers at each other.
The s22 plus is better then the s22.
But it is also priced higher.
So for more money it has better specs.
It depends on what you like using.
Here is my example:
I had the Redmi K20 Pro and loved it for its size. It got damaged so I bought myself a Poco F3 with a fairly bigger screen (I felt like giving bigger phones a try). It's a great phone that I still use as a backup but I got the base S22 because I realized that I need something that fits easily in the pocket, even with a case on. And with the F3, I was always terrified of it flying out of my pocket while on the move.
To conclude, the S22 is a good choice if you want a small-ish flagship. The S22+ is a good choice if you want a bigger device and are willing to spend more money. It all depends on your own preference, so I'd suggest going to some store that has both the S22 and S22+ on display and see which one you prefer.
Hi all,
Both the Pixel 6 and the S21 FE seem like great devices with pros and cons. I can get both for about the same price.
I'm leaning towards the S21 FE mostly because the Pixel has many bugs, and Android 13 seems to have made things worse. People are complaining of battery drain and the fingerprint reader not working. The S21 has a better screen and less bugs.
Having said that, a couple people have told me that the S21 FE UI can lag a bit sometimes and the camera is slow. Can anyone support these claims? I've seen some people say that the Exynos version is worse than the Snapdragon version. I can get the snapdragon version in Europe apparently.
In summary, I'm reluctant to go from Pixel to Samsung if the UI experience is choppy or it randomly drops frames. I'd like to get more advice.
Thanks all!
Consider the Note 10+ Snapdragon.
Can be had at a good price, run well, looks great, supports up to 1tb of expandable storage.
No variable refresh rate display or 5G but better SOT. Runs cool and fast; a good balance missing on the newer Sammy's.
Cams not as good but more than adequate.
A solid, reliable beast of a phone.
blackhawk said:
Consider the Note 10+ Snapdragon.
Can be had at a good price, run well, looks great, supports up to 1tb of expandable storage.
No variable refresh rate display or 5G but better SOT. Runs cool and fast; a good balance missing on the newer Sammy's.
Cams not as good but more than adequate.
A solid, reliable beast of a phone.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the Note 10+ is about 140 euro more expensive than the two phones I'm looking at which is out of my price range!
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the Note 10+ is about 140 euro more expensive than the two phones I'm looking at which is out of my price range!
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Used ones are getting quit low now. A lot more bang for the buck. It's a pain... I don't envy you.
Get the Pixel
Had a Pixel 6 and i would totally say it's much better than S21 FE (if you don't have connection issues although i didn't experience them). Android 13 made the phone much better. S21 FE is just a no go tbh compared to Pixel 6; battery life is worse, cameras are worse, performance is similar, Pixel 6 community is more active, and Google software support is better (imo).
I was worried a bit as well but my S21fe Snapdragon is super fast and the camera opens and takes pictures consistently quickly. The side key is set to open the camera when holding down using a 3rd party app. There were a few minor lags on the very first boot right after restoring a large backup over Smart Switch but that went away. I did do a basic debloat as well. I get ~6hrs sot with 120hz and adaptive brightness on.
I always loved the Pixel Series. So when I got the chance, I returned back my S21 FE to get a Pixel 6. Big mistake
Let me explain my experience
1-I tried several screen protectors. It's true that some work better than others. But definitely the fingerprint scanner on the Pixel 6 is under the rest of the competitors, by far
2-The biggest problem for me, the touch delay and buffering. I play a lot of rhythm games and this problem was killing me. I'm ended selling it to get again the S21 FE
Don't know if this problem is solved today (this happened to me on May)
more info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qz22lm
Since I returned to the S21, I'm extremely happy
Hope this helps