Question Horrible battery and slow charging on Pixel 6 Pro - Google Pixel 6 Pro

I've had the phone for about 2 weeks. The battery life is horrible. I leave the phone charging over night and sometimes it stops charging all together. Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. Left phone laying on night stand. Woke up to 70% battery after 8 hours of doing nothing. Mobile network standby used 42% of my battery drain. What is going on with this phone? Should I get a warranty claim replacement?
edit: 11/30 Turning off Adaptive battery and Adaptive charging helped. However, still getting a replacement phone. I get no signal pretty much any where. Thought maybe it was because Tmobile network. After a few days of troubleshooting the phone and getting new sim card and esim, I literally get 1mbps downloads if any connection at all. On Pixel Reddit many others are saying their P6P is getting no data, seems to be a modem issue?

Check in the settings if "adaptive charging" is enabled. I believe it is by default.
This feature attempts to sync up your overnight charge with the time you wake up.
If it's miscalculating when you wake up, it might not be charging enough. It should eventually learn when you do wake, assuming it's the same time, etc.
But you can just switch it off completely and allow the phone to charge as it normally would.
As far as mobile network standby goes, I'm not sure. I've noticed in the past this is usually because little to no cell service, so the phone is trying very hard to find a signal (boosting more power to that internal module) and thus draining battery more. Do you have poor service where you sleep?

Factory reset and when ask to transfer data from another phone. Don't. You may have a rogue app.
I also have a high usage on "Mobile Network Service" but doesn't seem to affect my battery much. My overnights drain on my P6P are 5% max.

Battery charging is slow but my P6P has phenomenal battery. Set it up from scratch like I always do with a new phone.

Battery charging is definitely slower than my Galaxy Note20 Ultra, but I like the adaptive charging at night. If you set an alarm, it will trickle charge and reach 100% just before. This will prolong battery life but I think the standard charge could be a bit faster. 65W like OnePlus probably does more harm than good in the long run but a true 30W shouldn't be an issue.

the latest update doesnt fix battery drain... update ending 037... although the fingerprint sensor is better

Not another nitpick on the Pixel thread. My battery life is good, nothing lasts forever.

Novakingwai said:
I've had the phone for about 2 weeks. The battery life is horrible. I leave the phone charging over night and sometimes it stops charging all together. Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. Left phone laying on night stand. Woke up to 70% battery after 8 hours of doing nothing. Mobile network standby used 42% of my battery drain. What is going on with this phone? Should I get a warranty claim replacement?
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Did you check whether you use adaptive charging?
It's designed to let the phone fully charge ONLY shortly before you wake up (set wakeup timer).
I mean, it never properly worked for me, but maybe it does for you. Lol.

My Battery life is fantastic! I have adaptive battery on. When it's at it takes about 20 min of hard use to even move from 100 to 99. I have no idea why yours does that but I'm beginning to think these are trolls because so far my p6 pro is a powerhouse. Works amazing. I love this phone. Every other dam post is complaint after complaint. Even crappy phones on other forums don't get this kind of grief. Google probably over hyped the phone and people are annoyed that they had to wait to get one or it's a massive drive by Samsung to tone down the sales of Google.......Too bad Samsung won't just allow bootloader unlock to be easy and painless. Otherwise I wouldn't BE Loving my p6 pro.....

As others have pointed out, adaptive charging is supposed to slow the charging down so it hits 100% within the hour of your alarm to wake up. You can actually see it say adaptive charging on the always on display at the bottom of it's engaged. But not hitting 100% isn't what it's supposed to do. What charger are you using with it?

wulfgarfang said:
it takes about 20 min of hard use to even move from 100 to 99
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That's not actually a good thing unless each point takes the same amount of usage. This actually suggests that the battery level is poorly calibrated.

wulfgarfang said:
I'm beginning to think these are trolls because so far my p6 pro is a powerhouse.
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You got me. Been a member of XDA since 2013 and I decided to pick 2021 to start trolling.

Novakingwai said:
You got me. Been a member of XDA since 2013 and I decided to pick 2021 to start trolling.
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People here asked you many questions to find out of it's a user mistake/problem, or if the phone is the rootcause of the issue.
You answered not one single question (as of now).
So it's fair to assume that you are a troll.

stuff said:
Check in the settings if "adaptive charging" is enabled. I believe it is by default.
This feature attempts to sync up your overnight charge with the time you wake up.
If it's miscalculating when you wake up, it might not be charging enough. It should eventually learn when you do wake, assuming it's the same time, etc.
But you can just switch it off completely and allow the phone to charge as it normally would.
As far as mobile network standby goes, I'm not sure. I've noticed in the past this is usually because little to no cell service, so the phone is trying very hard to find a signal (boosting more power to that internal module) and thus draining battery more. Do you have poor service where you sleep?
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I'll try turning off adaptive battery and charging. I read some saying the adaptive battery isn't working right even after days of "calibrating." And the adaptive charging is new to me, turning that off also to test for a couple days.
I have tmobile and the entire area from my home to work is covered in 5G. Was working great on my S20+ for a couple days until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I went to tmobile store yesterday. They gave me a new SIM and checked their system. I'm literally about 1000 feet from a 5G tower. They showed me a calendar supposedly they've been working in the area and having intermittent service issues, doesn't explain why I get no signal all day.
I've factory reset the phone and didn't copy over anything from my old phone, seeing if that will help.

Novakingwai said:
I'll try turning off adaptive battery and charging. I read some saying the adaptive battery isn't working right even after days of "calibrating." And the adaptive charging is new to me, turning that off also to test for a couple days.
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I'm currently trying out Adaptive Battery off for the next week just to see if there's a noticeable difference. I'll be tracking it with AccuBattery Pro and took a screenshot of my a averages before turning it off.

EeZeEpEe said:
I'm currently trying out Adaptive Battery off for the next week just to see if there's a noticeable difference. I'll be tracking it with AccuBattery Pro and took a screenshot of my a averages before turning it off.
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I remember talks back in the days when it was introduced (Android Pie, Pixel 3 I think) and already then people claimed to improve their battery life by "turning that **** off" - it would be a bit devastating to know that Google still hasn't fixed that.

Morgrain said:
I remember talks back in the days when it was introduced (Android Pie, Pixel 3 I think) and already then people claimed to improve their battery life by "turning that **** off" - it would be a bit devastating to know that Google still hasn't fixed that.
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Wow it has been that long since it was first introduced. Time flies. Just on day one right now and I'm already seeing more screen off drain. Will see how every turns out next week.

Return it.
May be a battery failure in progress.
While many Androids can be battery hogs until they sorted out, all should charge normally with a known good brick and cable.

Novakingwai said:
I've had the phone for about 2 weeks. The battery life is horrible. I leave the phone charging over night and sometimes it stops charging all together. Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. Left phone laying on night stand. Woke up to 70% battery after 8 hours of doing nothing. Mobile network standby used 42% of my battery drain. What is going on with this phone? Should I get a warranty claim replacement?
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Hi. I'm typing this answer form my new P6P as Google decided to replace my old device. I set up my phone from scratch without transfering anything from old device AND THE ISSUE IS STILL THERE. Insanely high network standby battery drain +25% of the whole capacity. This is nuts. The employee told me specifically that I won't have this problem with my new device. I don't know what to do. I think I'll just return it and to for a different phone. Btw my partner has a non-pro P6 and he has exactly the same issue. Our sim cards are vodafone.de. Lost count how many hours I was trying to fix this problem. What a time waster.

Novakingwai said:
I'll try turning off adaptive battery and charging. I read some saying the adaptive battery isn't working right even after days of "calibrating." And the adaptive charging is new to me, turning that off also to test for a couple days.
I have tmobile and the entire area from my home to work is covered in 5G. Was working great on my S20+ for a couple days until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I went to tmobile store yesterday. They gave me a new SIM and checked their system. I'm literally about 1000 feet from a 5G tower. They showed me a calendar supposedly they've been working in the area and having intermittent service issues, doesn't explain why I get no signal all day.
I've factory reset the phone and didn't copy over anything from my old phone, seeing if that will help.
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Good luck, hopefully the factor reset fixes whatever was going haywire. Usually that does help people as a last resort effort

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Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the LG G5's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
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Standby Is Good - Unless
If I lose signal for a long period of time I will take a battery hit. Otherwise, no problem.
Standby drain...PHENOMENAL!!!
Sometimes, over the course of an hr, it won't even lose a percent! Amazing, even compared to the Note 3, which was awesome battery-wise!
jreed3786 said:
Sometimes, over the course of an hr, it won't even lose a percent! Amazing, even compared to the Note 3, which was awesome battery-wise!
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my H860's standby drain is abysmal.. It drops 15+% overnight (about 6-7hrs). How are you getting such a good standby time? I disabled Facebook (which was installed as a system app for some reason) but even then the best I got was 9% overnight..
Same problem here. Battery drain while phone is idle is absolutely horrid. Can't for the life of me figure it out. Under settings in battery usage, the only 2 things I show with significant battery drain is screen on and phone idle.
Bad signal (1 bar or less) can severely affect idle battery drain. The always on display does take some battery. Try turning it off to see if it makes a difference.
Yeah where we live is great signaland one of the first things I did was turn off the always on feature. I still have the drain.
hyperxi said:
my H860's standby drain is abysmal.. It drops 15+% overnight (about 6-7hrs). How are you getting such a good standby time? I disabled Facebook (which was installed as a system app for some reason) but even then the best I got was 9% overnight..
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No idea!!! I'll keep an eye on drain again...but I gotta say, I found it to be great! I'm almost always on Wifi, not sure if that has anything to do with it.
I too have the worst battery life I've ever had on a brand new device. I don't know what else to do but sell the phone.
I sure wish we could figure this out
Enhanced LTE
djsbad said:
I sure wish we could figure this out
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Was doing some digging on this exact issue. I was getting a ridiculous battery drain from phone idle, which I didn't have for the first week of owning the phone. For the life of me I could not figure out what I changed, but I think I may have found a solution. I have the AT&T H820 and it turns out other devices of the AT&T variant (galaxy s6) had terrible battery drain with Enhanced LTE selected. I have just disabled it and will report back in a day or two to report the results.
shamm1987 said:
Was doing some digging on this exact issue. I was getting a ridiculous battery drain from phone idle, which I didn't have for the first week of owning the phone. For the life of me I could not figure out what I changed, but I think I may have found a solution. I have the AT&T H820 and it turns out other devices of the AT&T variant (galaxy s6) had terrible battery drain with Enhanced LTE selected. I have just disabled it and will report back in a day or two to report the results.
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Thank you for the feedback on this. I have the Verizon edition and I've been looking for that specific setting since you mentioned it. I don't see it in my menu. I'd imagine you went to the mobile data menu under some and it was in the somewhere?
HD Voice
djsbad said:
Thank you for the feedback on this. I have the Verizon edition and I've been looking for that specific setting since you mentioned it. I don't see it in my menu. I'd imagine you went to the mobile data menu under some and it was in the somewhere?
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Enhanced LTE is AT&T's version of HD voice so maybe try turning that off.
shamm1987 said:
Enhanced LTE is AT&T's version of HD voice so maybe try turning that off.
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Thank you.
I have TMobile varient. Yesterday, I tried selecting 'Restrict background data' option (Settings > Mobile Data > Top right menu and select 'restrict background data' checkbox). So far its been better than yesterday.
I use Shutapp to end running apps and turn the phone over so the light sensor is covered and the always on display shuts off. Battery seems on par with my G3 which is the same size battery.
I have no stand by drain on my AT&T version. I have aod off and this is on my nightstand. So Wi-Fi enabled. Location and Bluetooth off. I charge to 100% then restart the phone and then unplug for the rest of the night. I will wake up anywhere from 6 to 10 hours later. Weekdays and weekends vary. But I will always wake up at either 99% or 100% my stand by works flawlessly. Just my process.
my colleague has this and his battery drains while on stand by. not the best!
Inconsistent but normally good
In the second and third days that I had this phone it seemed to lose 1 % per hour which I feel is pretty good considering I had always listening for "ok google" and the fingerprint scanner on. I have no sim in the device yet. The first night it went from 80 to 2% on standby though that could have been just because it was the first night. I don't have always on display on.
I have an international version (H860) on AT&T network for about a week now. AOD is off, Wi-Fi is on, GPS is on Battery Saving mode. Every night, the drain is about 20%. Battery usage shows Android OS and Phone Idle being the top 2 uses. I reset the phone once already. The phone is set up the same as my G4, same set of apps. The G4 has only about 1% drain overnight. Can this be a defective unit?
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draining battery fast.

First two days I had the phone it had great battery. I was getting 16-18 hours of life with 4-6 sot. Now the last two days at work it's worse than my op2. By the time I got home yesterday I was at like 35%. Previous days I was well over 60.My android system is taking most of the blame. On my good days it was at like 8% when the phone would die. Right now with my phone at 79% it's already at the top with 5%. I've barely used the phone while I'm at work right now. It's been unplugged for 3 hours and my sot is 35 minutes. Not sure if it's got something to do with the ambient display. Maybe finger print scanner. Any one have ideas?
Download gsm battery monitor, are you rooted?
Boosted OP3
cameron1292 said:
First two days I had the phone it had great battery. I was getting 16-18 hours of life with 4-6 sot. Now the last two days at work it's worse than my op2. By the time I got home yesterday I was at like 35%. Previous days I was well over 60.My android system is taking most of the blame. On my good days it was at like 8% when the phone would die. Right now with my phone at 79% it's already at the top with 5%. I've barely used the phone while I'm at work right now. It's been unplugged for 3 hours and my sot is 35 minutes. Not sure if it's got something to do with the ambient display. Maybe finger print scanner. Any one have ideas?
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Seems like you had been on LTE for quite long. Mobile data takes pounding on battery life. You will always see android system, android os and Google services etc on battery stat when using mobile data. Not the same case with wifi.
same here
i have mixed net usage with m,mostly lte on and wifi
can anyone have its quick fix pls report asap
i have greenified many OPservices but it didnt helped
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Download gsm battery monitor, are you rooted?
Boosted OP3
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Not rooted yet. Didn't want to loose dash charge with a new rom but cat just chewed the cord so guess I'll make a jump. Is that only a rooted app?
saurabh40629 said:
Seems like you had been on LTE for quite long. Mobile data takes pounding on battery life. You will always see android system, android os and Google services etc on battery stat when using mobile data. Not the same case with wifi.
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Humm I thought it was the other way around. Nevertheless I have WiFi at work. Can't remember if I was on it though. I'll have to test that out.
You don't have to run a custom rom or loose dash charge cause your rooted. I'm still using stock oxygen 3.1.3,and have the basic functions like dash charge working. I'm not sure if you have to be rooted to use gsm, cause I'm always rooted, but it may gave you more specific insight as to what exactly is draining your battery quickly.
cameron1292 said:
Not sure if it's got something to do with the ambient display. Maybe finger print scanner. Any one have ideas?
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You know the image you attached, with the graph on it? Tap that and check the Awake heading. Is it one long solid blue bar? If yes: your phone stays awake (doesn't go in deep sleep mode). Does restarting it make a difference (i.e. does the solid blue bar get broken up)?
The problem emerged on my OP3 as well yesterday AND I had it on my prevous phone (a OPO). On the OPO the problem was that it wouldn't release a wakelock that kicked in during charging. While I haven't explored the problem on my new OP3 enough to know if this is the same problem, here's what fixed it for me if the problem is indeed charger related: when charged to your liking turn off your phone with the charging cable still in. Once turned off, remove the cable and restart the phone.
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You don't have to run a custom rom or loose dash charge cause your rooted. I'm still using stock oxygen 3.1.3,and have the basic functions like dash charge working. I'm not sure if you have to be rooted to use gsm, cause I'm always rooted, but it may gave you more specific insight as to what exactly is draining your battery quickly.
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I'll have to check that out. I'll root today. Just haven't had a need with the OP3 I'm digging this version of oxygen and not missing any of my root abilities. Also I use android pay. But I guess I can live without it lol
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You know the image you attached, with the graph on it? Tap that and check the Awake heading. Is it one long solid blue bar? If yes: your phone stays awake (doesn't go in deep sleep mode). Does restarting it make a difference (i.e. does the solid blue bar get broken up)?
The problem emerged on my OP3 as well yesterday AND I had it on my prevous phone (a OPO). On the OPO the problem was that it wouldn't release a wakelock that kicked in during charging. While I haven't explored the problem on my new OP3 enough to know if this is the same problem, here's what fixed it for me if the problem is indeed charger related: when charged to your liking turn off your phone with the charging cable still in. Once turned off, remove the cable and restart the phone.
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Are you talking about under history details? I'll check tonight once my phone is drained. I did a battery cycle yesterday. Let it die and charged to 100 while it was off. We'll see how it goes today. And your saying it was an actual charger problem?
Heavy battery drain might have to do with the "pocket problem". The fingerprint sensor constantly activates and is not properly blocked by the proximity sensor.
There are several threads and posts about it, here and on the oneplus forums...
js931 said:
Heavy battery drain might have to do with the "pocket problem". The fingerprint sensor constantly activates and is not properly blocked by the proximity sensor.
There are several threads and posts about it, here and on the oneplus forums...
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Yea I had that once in a while with my op2 I'd take the phone out of my pocket and it would say too many attempts at the scanner. Nothing on this phone like that though. And of course today is a different story with the battery lol its good today. So maybe it's while I'm at work. Idk it's odd. I need some more testing. Currently I'm at 9.5 hours on battery with 56% left and almost 3 hours sot. I'll see how this week goes at work and see if I can diagnose anything
I've been having this problem as well, losing as much as up to 20% of battery overnight, while it was doing absolutely nothing. I've tried a couple of things, but last night it 'only' drained 5%, betterbatterystats reports 0.6% of drainage per hour.
I think this is due to the weather option in the launcher, could anyone else try turning it off and see if battery life improves significantly?
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Are you talking about under history details?
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Yes.
I'll check tonight once my phone is drained.
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You don't even need to do that. You can just check it after an hour or even less. Just put the phone away for an hour with the screen off and check history details.
And your saying it was an actual charger problem?
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Not quite. I'm saying it was a wakelock that kicked in during charging and that wasn't released when I took the phone off the charger. I don't know if it was the charger caused the wakelock.
Great for two days now I'm leaving work with 45% battery and only an hour and a half sot. Unplugged for 9 hours. Idk I feel like it's hit or miss

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Google Pixel's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
First night dropped 12% in 6 hours. Not impressed. But I gotta break in that battery.
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I've been losing around 3 % to standby drain over my typical heavy 9 hour sleep (Rx induced)!
I've had mine since last Tuesday.
5" Pixel version.
Battery doesn't seem to go down unless I really get on device for a couple minutes.
Wheee!
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Last night my pixel went down 2% over about 7.5 hrs so the standby time is pretty good.
My Pixel actually dozed for it's first night. We'll have to see if it keeps going. My N5x gave up dozing a long time ago.
The doze mode has been great for me so far. Standby time is better than any other android phone I've used.
From my other reply:
Battery has been pretty good for me so far. Seems to be settling in with optimization after a few days. Dropped 0% overnight last night which is awesome.
GSAM Monitor is saying my average is 19 hrs on, 4.5 hours of screen on time usage, 1-2 hours of screen off usage like phone calls, music.
EDIT: I also have pretty crappy signal at work.
Stand by time hasn't been a real problem for awhile. My Nexus 5 on KitKat and Lollipop(both before Doze) and only a 2,300mAh would only drop 2-3% over 8 hours. It's usage time that really matters.
Mine dropped about 10% the first night (Mon 24th), but I do live in an area that has poor reception. Have to place phone next to window just to get text and calls. If I go outside I may get LTE at 1 or 2 bars. Overall though battery hasn't been an issue and I love the rapid charging.
Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
minty1978 said:
Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Good lord man!
My phone is my alarm clock, so I couldn't do that if I wanted to.
ourjim said:
Good lord man!
My phone is my alarm clock, so I couldn't do that if I wanted to.
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I'm "blessed" with an extremely good body clock, which means I wake up at 6.30 every day without any alarm... Even at the weekends
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Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Yes ! Now a days u are lmao
doesn't the alarm still go off when it's turned off? my galaxy note 4 does that
Probably.
Using Accubattery to measure screen off battery drain I am typically between 75-85ma. Has anyone else measured their standby power consumption, curious what other values are as this seems high to me.
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Tested it overnight with and without bluetooth on, got it down to 40ma without bluetooth, averaged 70ma with bluetooth on overnight. Also got to test a Note 4 under the same conditions though without a SIM card. The Note 4 was using 11ma without bluetooth and 18ma with bluetooth on. Both phones connected to the same WIFI the whole time. May have to do a full reset on the Pixel as the standby power consumption is definitely out of hand.
Standby
My Google Pixel currently drains an excessive amount of battery even on standby, however thanks to quick charging its up and ready in 15 minutes. OS seems to be heavy usage of battery at the moment.
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Using Accubattery to measure screen off battery drain I am typically between 75-85ma. Has anyone else measured their standby power consumption, curious what other values are as this seems high to me.
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Tested it overnight with and without bluetooth on, got it down to 40ma without bluetooth, averaged 70ma with bluetooth on overnight. Also got to test a Note 4 under the same conditions though without a SIM card. The Note 4 was using 11ma without bluetooth and 18ma with bluetooth on. Both phones connected to the same WIFI the whole time. May have to do a full reset on the Pixel as the standby power consumption is definitely out of hand.
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While I still think the Samsung will have slightly better standby drain, this isn't a good test. You cannot compare a phone with a cell signal to one without. The biggest battery drain on a phone is typically cell signal.
If you pulled the sim card out of the pixel and let the phones sit side by side overnight, that would be something.
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While I still think the Samsung will have slightly better standby drain, this isn't a good test. You cannot compare a phone with a cell signal to one without. The biggest battery drain on a phone is typically cell signal.
If you pulled the sim card out of the pixel and let the phones sit side by side overnight, that would be something.
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I agree, this test is not a great comparison. The Note 4 did still have cell signal as they do connect to service without a sim card, but likely it is not the same as having proper service (LTE). I was trying to get the lowest draw possible on the Pixel and managed to average 29ma in airplane mode. This is the lowest I have got yet with the device which although is decently low draw is still abysmal considering that it had no apps running and no radios active. What is even more interesting to me is that google claims that the phone has 456 hours of standby time which suggests radios active (at least cell), unless my math is wrong this works out to a standby drain of 6ma which at least on my phone seems to be completely unattainable even with radios off.
I have looked around the forums but haven't seen anyone else posting power consumption information with the regular or XL pixel so I have no idea if this is unique to my phone or just standard with the Pixel. I haven't yet factory reset the phone but that would have been next, except that I am exchanging the device due to an unrelated issue. I guess I will see how the next one stacks up in this regard.
Thought I would post an update on my findings. After getting a new device and still having issues I have an answer and partial solution to my terrible standby drain. The culprit in my case is LTE. I am on FIDO in Canada which does use Band 4 though I am not certain if that is being used in my area. Anyways if I set my preferred network type to 3g my standby drain improves dramatically as the device idles around 10-15ma in my pocket and overnight is more like 6ma which is phenomenal. As soon as I set my network back to LTE my standby drain is 70-90ma and at best 40ma overnight if I'm lucky. My cell service for 3g and LTE are both good (green in battery stats). I know LTE requires more power however I would expect that power requirement to drop significantly when connected to WIFI networks which in my case doesnt seem to matter at all. At least now my battery life is awesome as others have reported. However connecting to 3g when away from home is a bummer and it's not really practical to manually change my preferred network every time I leave or enter a WIFI area. Looking at a way to automate this switch but on Android 5+ it seems that changing these settings via app are very locked down. I would also like to point out that my previous phones never seemed to suffer from this issue which only further makes me suspect that there is an unresolved underlying issue here (maybe related to the Band 4 issues being reported?). It sure is nice to open my battery stats window now and see some horizontal line segments instead of the linear march towards zero.

Battery Reducing Quickly?

Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
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If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
RedsonRising said:
It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
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Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.

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hey there. ive had my p6p for only a few weeks. battery life has been poor since i got it, but worse since the march update. i noticed when i look in settings under battery and battery usage and then past 24 hours i see mobile network usage at 70%. i haven't left my house in over a week and ive been on wifi the whole time. isn't that weird that the mobile network would be in use so much? i looked under network and the sim and by default roaming was toggled on. i turned that off and switched my preferred network to lte instead of 5g. a day later, still not left the house and i see mobile network at 54%, still high. i haven't even made one call on this phone in days. im on t-mobile if that matters and seem to have good reception in my home. any ideas or settings i could look at? thanks for any replies.
Go to developer settings and disable "Mobile data always on" option, as well as you can disable the 2g always on for emergency calls from the wifi&network settings. That helped me.
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Go to developer settings and disable "Mobile data always on" option, as well as you can disable the 2g always on for emergency calls from the wifi&network settings. That helped me.
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thanks, i’ll do both
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thanks, i’ll do both
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You're welcome
Dont know whats wrong with my p6p. Was one of the users who had zero problems since december, switched then to 12.1 beta. Now im on QPR 1.1 and since QPR 1.0 my battery drains like crazy, and even with the slightest of usage while using 4G/wifi it gets way hotter then before and you can see the battery % falling like a waterfall. Checked ofc all the settings, nothing changed. All apps are the same, nothing new. With Dec Firmware i was at ~50% at the end of the day, now im below 10%.
Im a die hard android boy, but for me thats crazy how unstable the whole "system" is. You change nothing app/usage wise, and you just loose nearly 40% of battery capacity.
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Dont know whats wrong with my p6p. Was one of the users who had zero problems since december, switched then to 12.1 beta. Now im on QPR 1.1 and since QPR 1.0 my battery drains like crazy, and even with the slightest of usage while using 4G/wifi it gets way hotter then before and you can see the battery % falling like a waterfall. Checked ofc all the settings, nothing changed. All apps are the same, nothing new. With Dec Firmware i was at ~50% at the end of the day, now im below 10%.
Im a die hard android boy, but for me thats crazy how unstable the whole "system" is. You change nothing app/usage wise, and you just loose nearly 40% of battery capacity.
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I personally hate the battery life on this phone. I charged it to 85% earlier and was texting a buddy of mine for a bit, and my phone was super warm for no reason and I lost like 20% just from that. It doesn't make much sense to me how the power is bad that if I do light tasks it just goes to crap. I hope the next phone is better.
Personally, forget the Mobile Network standby figure is just misleading.
On the original firmware mine said 3-7% and I would charge to 80% and then 24 hours later would have around 30% left. By the February release the standby figure was showing 40% but battery life exactly the same. With the March release it is ready 50%+ but again the battery life is still pretty much the same (couple of % more but that is because I moved to a dual sim setup).
Don't disagree that some are having battery issues, but don't go chasing the Mobile Standby number as it is likely a complete red herring and your issue is elsewhere.
yeah i noticed that too. Im no way focused on that % mobile standby. Im feeling the noticable higher temp on the device.
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Don't disagree that some are having battery issues, but don't go chasing the Mobile Standby number as it is likely a complete red herring and your issue is elsewhere.
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There are reports that the older 5G modem is at least part of the problem, so I would not dismiss it. The fact that so many disable 5G, 2G, or other mobile services and report better battery life is kind of telling, too.
I think that the March drop has improved my battery life a bit, however. Not great, but it lasts through the day.
My battery life has definitely decreased since updating to march build. My usage hasn't changed, but before, I went to bed with ~15% left, now I often need to recharge at ~22:00 whenever I want to use my phone before sleep. Temps also seem to be slightly worse. I sometimes notice the phone getting warm, which did not happen before.
On a plus side, I have no more connection problems at home since updating to March build (I can get SMS/calls again in my home office), so that's a trade-off I am ok with, even though I don't like it.
mobile network is definitely my problem. since i stay home most days, working from home and not needing to go out, i turned on airplane mode and then enabled wifi and bt. i get calls from wifi thru tmobile and suddenly my battery life is great. 24 hours after charging with light use i had 89% battery remaining. i believe overnight i had lost 1%. i plan on leaving it in airplane mode till i go out. i get my notifications and calls and have great battery life this way.
I've noticed a steep decline in my battery life as well since the March update. Mobile network appears to be the culprit. Verizon user here, on an old GUDP.
elwuero said:
mobile network is definitely my problem. since i stay home most days, working from home and not needing to go out, i turned on airplane mode and then enabled wifi and bt. i get calls from wifi thru tmobile and suddenly my battery life is great. 24 hours after charging with light use i had 89% battery remaining. i believe overnight i had lost 1%. i plan on leaving it in airplane mode till i go out. i get my notifications and calls and have great battery life this way.
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I find it sad we have to go through such hoops to get our battery life adequate enough for our standards, when it should be this way out of the box. I hope the next pixel phone improves upon this, and if it does even in the smallest way I'll be sure to trade my device in.
I found the "issue" for my drain/heat problem:
I discovered yesterday evening, that i was enlisted in the play service beta program. Opted out of it, cleared cache/data too. Figured then out, that my gpay cards went missing, added them back in 5 mins, no prob. Then i saw, that all my "battery setting per app" where on "optimized", not on restrict. Today i unplugged at 08.30 and till now after a 20min call and twitter/instagram usage, im still at 96% with absolutey NO HEAT!
Config:
Play Services 21.24.23
Carrier Services 98.0.435052141
Play Store 29.8.13-21[0]
S3B1.220218.006
Hope, that this maybe help someone
Normandroid said:
I've noticed a steep decline in my battery life as well since the March update. Mobile network appears to be the culprit. Verizon user here, on an old GUDP.
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Weirdly mine has noticeably got better, i am ending the day with 20 or 30% more battery left than i was before the march update.

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