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[Q] Desire Z : Really Inconsistent Speeds + Battery Issues

Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!

Does anyone have an answer? I was wondering this

I have been running CM 6 since November and just recently flashed CM 7. On both ROMs, Cell Standby and Phone Idle have been very high on my list of things that are 'draining' the battery.
For example, today Cell Standby shows as 37% and Phone Idle as 30% for me.
In fact, its very rare that these two things aren't at the top of the list of things that are using the battery for me.... I've seen cell standby as high as 47% before.
I can't speak for the drainage overnight. Definitely doesn't sound normal to me, but my phone is usually on the charger overnight (have enough trouble making it through the day with the stock battery).
Have you tried using Watchdog to monitor CPU usage of apps that run in the background? You could set the notification threshold very low and see what it spits out... Good luck!

gbarayah, thanks for the post, that was helpful.
If anyone can help with the inconsistent data speeds, that'd be very helpful.
And any additional info on the battery would be great too. I recently calibrated it, and will post any additional stats.

Damn it, I forgot to try Watchdog. However, I re-calibrated the battery, let it die, charged it up, let it die, charged it up. I followed the instructions to the letter and all that.
It was at 100% when I went to sleep. Woke up 8 hours later, 74%.
Settings > Battery shows nothing high 40% for cell standby and phone idle. Everything else (Facebook, etc.) REALLY low.
Then I went to Spare Parts > Battery Usage, Partial wake usage, everything incredibly low as well..
I will try Watchdog, but could it just be a bad battery? Or maybe should I try a different ROM?
Thanks!

Not sure if 26% drain over 8 hours is normal or not... Maybe someone else can shed some light on that. My phone is usually on the charger overnight.
The only other thing I can think of that would drain the battery is if you have a bad/weak cell signal in your area. I've experienced that with some job sites where my cell signal is very bad and my battery suffers excessive drain from trying to get a better signal or connect to 3G coming from Edge.

On my week old desire Z running virtuous unity sense3.0 rom and streamlined kernal i very rarely see phone idle and radio burning battery lik you say. Radio occasionaly gets high but only wen in bad coverage areas other than thats its ok.
Battery is still rubbish though due to fact even on 2nd lowest brightness setting screen seems to burn 80%-90% battery
Just checked: phone idle:2%
Cell stanby:8%
Screen (lowest setting):70%
Not this isnt a great example as its taken over a short period of havy use but it still reflects the relative proportion of the battery draining elements in question.
Also a question, if you have a live wallpaper set where is its battery drain shown? Screen, or launcher?

Not sure what to say about the high variable speeds.
Sticking to just GSM(2G) rather than AUTO will in some cases increase the signal and battery life at the expense of slower connection speeds. As mentioned when the phone struggles to get signal the battery gets drained alot faster.
Lower the refresh intervals of all the apps to the maximum period of time or a reasonable amount like 12 hours for FB for Sense, HTC Sense and Weather and 4 hours or Never (to make it on-demand) for Facebook.
Setting the Wi-fi sleep policy to "Never when connected" may make it on-demand too - when an app needs to update Wi-fi gets turned on again
If they have "Use wireless networks" checked to allow the clock-weathers mini-widget to update then they should try removing said clock and re-adding it, but search for the city when doing so. It'll provide them with a general outlook for their entire city and not force it to download and update the information for wherever they are whilst out and about. E.g if you were in London and went from Westminster to Peckham, it may update as you pass through each borough.
Live wallpapers and masses of widgets that need to constantly update are nice and everything but they can also drain the battery.
Think of these suggestions as ways to cycle the battery as well as save it.
I can't think of anything else to add.

I'm using Cyanogenmod 7 and it's pretty damn good. What do you think is the best ROM with Gingerbread if it's more lightweight and easier on the battery? (I honestly don't think the ROM accounts for the 25% battery loss but we'll see)
MIUI or mexiDroid for me?
By the way, could it just be a bad battery? I was thinking about picking one of these up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940263
$8 and people said it's okay.. What do you think?
Thanks, and I JUST calibrated recently, so once again I will leave phone off overnight and report.
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As for the network issues, I FIGURED IT OUT!!!
I believe it was the Speedtest app itself that was messed up. Like I said earlier, I don't have live wallpapers (just info) on, and also NO GPS unless using Navigation.
Well, Speedtest was connecting to WICHITA, KANSAS. I AM IN NEW JERSEY. WTH??!!
Anyway, so I'm going to keep GPS (satellites) on, it connects to NJ, and Voila, GREAT SPEEDS!
HSPA about 3.5/1.0 DL/UL
HOORAY! Network problem fixed!!!
Only issue is battery still D:
Honestly, I think it may be a bad battery. Partial wake usage doesn't show any app going nuts.. Every refresh interval is like 4 hours. And I use Advanced Task Killer to kill all apps before going to bed. I downloaded "Watchdog," let's see

gyromanx55 said:
Friend has a new Desire Z (bell, unlocked). Using it on AT&T network.
When at a house, and we use WiFI (30Mbps DL, 25Mbps UL), the speeds are VERY inconsistent. With my iPhone 4 using speedtest.net, it shows up as 20/15 each time. (WiFi is a little slower than the modem).
With the Desire Z, we get 15/10 (which is fine/acceptable). Then 3 minutes later we do it, we get 5/2. Without even moving the phone or touching the modem connection (not downloading anything on the computer), the connection just gets slower. Then it might be fast or slow, basically it's a toss-up.
The first time we noticed the issue is because when we are outside, we get HSPA speeds of 2.5/1.0, then randomly decreases to 0.1/0.05. HUGE difference. And VERY inconsistent. He is using a microSIM from iPhone 4, with an adapter, so we figured maybe the SIM card is getting loose at certain points? However, the WiFi is also inconsistent in addition to the HSPA, so it's probably not that.
What should I do? Is this the situation where I have to flash a new radio or something? (Please suggest others if I am wrong).
Thanks!
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Also, his battery is kinda weak. The battery health is apparently clean/healthy. He came from an iPhone 4, where he would have 3G, WiFi, and GPS on at night but not actually using them. Wake up, and 3% battery loss, maybe 5. WITHOUT using them, just having them on.
Now, with the Desire Z, we have the WiFi + 3G on, but NOT the GPS. He is losing 20%-25% in 8 hours without even using the phone.
Information about battery shows a high Cell standby (25%) and Phone idle (25%) percentage. When going into Spare Parts > Partial Wake usage, we didn't find anything really fishy. BUT we had rebooted so perhaps some info may have been lossed. Should he just go to sleep tonight and report the Partial Wake Usage statistics again?
We have a feeling it may be some apps refreshing at night.. But he clears all the apps with Advanced Task Manager except for like Facebook (2 hour interval refresh), GMail, and Google Voice.
I highly doubt a 20% battery decrease overnight is normal.. My mom's Atrix only loses about 5% overnight, with the same parameters I gave before.
I thought it may be a bad battery, BUT the phone idle + cell standby are abnormally high.
Thanks!
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well... can't be that odd. Mine are
cell standby: 8%
Phone idle 6%
display 51% (highest)
dialer 11%
wifi 10%
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about conn. speed. I haven't used speedtest yet but downloading speed on the phone is slower than on PC remarkably using the same internet connection

barclays said:
well... can't be that odd. Mine are
cell standby: 8%
Phone idle 6%
display 51% (highest)
dialer 11%
wifi 10%
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about conn. speed. I haven't used speedtest yet but downloading speed on the phone is slower than on PC remarkably using the same internet connection
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WiFi will always be slower than wired connection, probably about 50% if not more.
Also, what setting do you have your display on and how much would you say you use your phone/have the screen on and how often do you talk (hrs/day)

noneabove said:
WiFi will always be slower than wired connection, probably about 50% if not more.
Also, what setting do you have your display on and how much would you say you use your phone/have the screen on and how often do you talk (hrs/day)
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I have auto brightness but I stay in office and not turn it on much (have to work though ) so the display isn't on much (when i said HIGHEST, it means highest in the list )
I have to phone connected to wifi all day but rarely use it
Mainly use the phone to text and talk less and 1/hr/day
Just try left the phone unused (stand by - airplane mode) for one day, drop about 20% or so

Its seems like its getting a little better.. only lost 10% overnight. Guess its calibrating
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[Q] Fast battery drain

My battery was doing well, had about 70+% remaining after about 5-6 hours on battery, then in a one-hour stretch it dropped 30%. I'm running battery doctor, but it really isn't telling me what could have caused that. Even after a half-hour con-call this morning, the battery was still at 80% or so until noon.
It seemed to fall off the cliff when I left the house for about an hour to run some errands. But 30% when you're not doing a lot with it in an hour's time frame seems like an issue.
Anyone have any ideas on how to debug this?

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My battery was doing well, had about 70+% remaining after about 5-6 hours on battery, then in a one-hour stretch it dropped 30%. I'm running battery doctor, but it really isn't telling me what could have caused that. Even after a half-hour con-call this morning, the battery was still at 80% or so until noon.
It seemed to fall off the cliff when I left the house for about an hour to run some errands. But 30% when you're not doing a lot with it in an hour's time frame seems like an issue.
Anyone have any ideas on how to debug this?
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I'd like to know as well. I'm at 33% at 7 hours usage.
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Were you using GPS? That's killer on the battery when you combine it with other drains

Also perhaps you ventured into a low signal area, so the phone was straining the battery to connect to a poor signal?

Samething here ... even after a factory reset & disabling a bunch of bloats.
It idles fine @home but really sucks @work ... I lost 30% (last 3hr idling) with the screen off (wifi off too, location is off, greenify running).
Phone barely lasts 2 days (with ~1hr scrren on, 1-call/2-TxtM a day, no emailing ... minimal usage).
One thing I notice... data signal @work is pretty bad (3G) while better @home (LTE).
This is a Verizon phone. My G2 was much much better, same exact setup.

This might sound like the opposite of what is intuitive, but your battery life at work may *increase* if you turn *ON* the wifi.
The reason is that you have poor 3G signal strength. So every time your phone updates anything data related, even just checking that you have an email, the phone burns a lot of battery trying to squeeze data over the poor signal from the cell tower.
But, if you turn on wifi, the phone can check all the data stuff using the wifi, which is far less battery intensive compared to trying to talk to the cell phone tower far away.
So try that, just turn on wifi *particularly* when you are in a poor cell phone reception area. Even though you now have an *extra* radio turned on in the phone, it should greatly help while at work or in any low signal area that has wifi available.

when did you get the phone? you have to do a few full charges and disable some Google bloat for the battery to last. and remove batter doctor. don't use apps like those task killers that keep themselves in the background like avast security. i just use lookout since it doesn't overly do it's job like avast.

What carrier are you on? If its T-Mobile, then its probably the My T-Mobile app. Drained my phone like crazy, T-Mobile also knows its an issue, but haven't said anything on fixing it.
Just uncheck all the boxes in the settings and it should stop, if not try the debloater tool.
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KingFatty said:
This might sound like the opposite of what is intuitive, but your battery life at work may *increase* if you turn *ON* the wifi.
The reason is that you have poor 3G signal strength. So every time your phone updates anything data related, even just checking that you have an email, the phone burns a lot of battery trying to squeeze data over the poor signal from the cell tower.
But, if you turn on wifi, the phone can check all the data stuff using the wifi, which is far less battery intensive compared to trying to talk to the cell phone tower far away.
So try that, just turn on wifi *particularly* when you are in a poor cell phone reception area. Even though you now have an *extra* radio turned on in the phone, it should greatly help while at work or in any low signal area that has wifi available.
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This will still drain it heavily even on wifi. It will continue to struggle to get good bars and will do what it takes in order to achieve good reception.
At work I always have wifi on and my drain is very high.
A weekend at home and I easily got SOT of 4 hrs+.
Work day, I struggle to get SOT of 2 hrs+

Very interesting approach, and it seems to work. I tried this overnight, and the falloff didn't seem nearly as great as when the wi-fi setting is off.
Many thanks.

I'm on verizon and when my phone switches to 3G it gets super hot upper middle area of the screen and the battery drain is outrageous. I have to disable data otherwise it would probably burst into flames. My previous unit did not have these problems. Wish I would have kept it.

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the LG G5's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Standby Is Good - Unless
If I lose signal for a long period of time I will take a battery hit. Otherwise, no problem.

Standby drain...PHENOMENAL!!!
Sometimes, over the course of an hr, it won't even lose a percent! Amazing, even compared to the Note 3, which was awesome battery-wise!

jreed3786 said:
Sometimes, over the course of an hr, it won't even lose a percent! Amazing, even compared to the Note 3, which was awesome battery-wise!
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my H860's standby drain is abysmal.. It drops 15+% overnight (about 6-7hrs). How are you getting such a good standby time? I disabled Facebook (which was installed as a system app for some reason) but even then the best I got was 9% overnight..

Same problem here. Battery drain while phone is idle is absolutely horrid. Can't for the life of me figure it out. Under settings in battery usage, the only 2 things I show with significant battery drain is screen on and phone idle.

Bad signal (1 bar or less) can severely affect idle battery drain. The always on display does take some battery. Try turning it off to see if it makes a difference.

Yeah where we live is great signaland one of the first things I did was turn off the always on feature. I still have the drain.

hyperxi said:
my H860's standby drain is abysmal.. It drops 15+% overnight (about 6-7hrs). How are you getting such a good standby time? I disabled Facebook (which was installed as a system app for some reason) but even then the best I got was 9% overnight..
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No idea!!! I'll keep an eye on drain again...but I gotta say, I found it to be great! I'm almost always on Wifi, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

I too have the worst battery life I've ever had on a brand new device. I don't know what else to do but sell the phone.

I sure wish we could figure this out

Enhanced LTE
djsbad said:
I sure wish we could figure this out
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Was doing some digging on this exact issue. I was getting a ridiculous battery drain from phone idle, which I didn't have for the first week of owning the phone. For the life of me I could not figure out what I changed, but I think I may have found a solution. I have the AT&T H820 and it turns out other devices of the AT&T variant (galaxy s6) had terrible battery drain with Enhanced LTE selected. I have just disabled it and will report back in a day or two to report the results.

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Was doing some digging on this exact issue. I was getting a ridiculous battery drain from phone idle, which I didn't have for the first week of owning the phone. For the life of me I could not figure out what I changed, but I think I may have found a solution. I have the AT&T H820 and it turns out other devices of the AT&T variant (galaxy s6) had terrible battery drain with Enhanced LTE selected. I have just disabled it and will report back in a day or two to report the results.
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Thank you for the feedback on this. I have the Verizon edition and I've been looking for that specific setting since you mentioned it. I don't see it in my menu. I'd imagine you went to the mobile data menu under some and it was in the somewhere?

HD Voice
djsbad said:
Thank you for the feedback on this. I have the Verizon edition and I've been looking for that specific setting since you mentioned it. I don't see it in my menu. I'd imagine you went to the mobile data menu under some and it was in the somewhere?
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Enhanced LTE is AT&T's version of HD voice so maybe try turning that off.

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Enhanced LTE is AT&T's version of HD voice so maybe try turning that off.
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Thank you.

I have TMobile varient. Yesterday, I tried selecting 'Restrict background data' option (Settings > Mobile Data > Top right menu and select 'restrict background data' checkbox). So far its been better than yesterday.

I use Shutapp to end running apps and turn the phone over so the light sensor is covered and the always on display shuts off. Battery seems on par with my G3 which is the same size battery.

I have no stand by drain on my AT&T version. I have aod off and this is on my nightstand. So Wi-Fi enabled. Location and Bluetooth off. I charge to 100% then restart the phone and then unplug for the rest of the night. I will wake up anywhere from 6 to 10 hours later. Weekdays and weekends vary. But I will always wake up at either 99% or 100% my stand by works flawlessly. Just my process.

my colleague has this and his battery drains while on stand by. not the best!

Inconsistent but normally good
In the second and third days that I had this phone it seemed to lose 1 % per hour which I feel is pretty good considering I had always listening for "ok google" and the fingerprint scanner on. I have no sim in the device yet. The first night it went from 80 to 2% on standby though that could have been just because it was the first night. I don't have always on display on.

I have an international version (H860) on AT&T network for about a week now. AOD is off, Wi-Fi is on, GPS is on Battery Saving mode. Every night, the drain is about 20%. Battery usage shows Android OS and Phone Idle being the top 2 uses. I reset the phone once already. The phone is set up the same as my G4, same set of apps. The G4 has only about 1% drain overnight. Can this be a defective unit?
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Question Horrible battery and slow charging on Pixel 6 Pro

I've had the phone for about 2 weeks. The battery life is horrible. I leave the phone charging over night and sometimes it stops charging all together. Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. Left phone laying on night stand. Woke up to 70% battery after 8 hours of doing nothing. Mobile network standby used 42% of my battery drain. What is going on with this phone? Should I get a warranty claim replacement?
edit: 11/30 Turning off Adaptive battery and Adaptive charging helped. However, still getting a replacement phone. I get no signal pretty much any where. Thought maybe it was because Tmobile network. After a few days of troubleshooting the phone and getting new sim card and esim, I literally get 1mbps downloads if any connection at all. On Pixel Reddit many others are saying their P6P is getting no data, seems to be a modem issue?

Check in the settings if "adaptive charging" is enabled. I believe it is by default.
This feature attempts to sync up your overnight charge with the time you wake up.
If it's miscalculating when you wake up, it might not be charging enough. It should eventually learn when you do wake, assuming it's the same time, etc.
But you can just switch it off completely and allow the phone to charge as it normally would.
As far as mobile network standby goes, I'm not sure. I've noticed in the past this is usually because little to no cell service, so the phone is trying very hard to find a signal (boosting more power to that internal module) and thus draining battery more. Do you have poor service where you sleep?

Factory reset and when ask to transfer data from another phone. Don't. You may have a rogue app.
I also have a high usage on "Mobile Network Service" but doesn't seem to affect my battery much. My overnights drain on my P6P are 5% max.

Battery charging is slow but my P6P has phenomenal battery. Set it up from scratch like I always do with a new phone.

Battery charging is definitely slower than my Galaxy Note20 Ultra, but I like the adaptive charging at night. If you set an alarm, it will trickle charge and reach 100% just before. This will prolong battery life but I think the standard charge could be a bit faster. 65W like OnePlus probably does more harm than good in the long run but a true 30W shouldn't be an issue.

the latest update doesnt fix battery drain... update ending 037... although the fingerprint sensor is better

Not another nitpick on the Pixel thread. My battery life is good, nothing lasts forever.

Novakingwai said:
I've had the phone for about 2 weeks. The battery life is horrible. I leave the phone charging over night and sometimes it stops charging all together. Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. Left phone laying on night stand. Woke up to 70% battery after 8 hours of doing nothing. Mobile network standby used 42% of my battery drain. What is going on with this phone? Should I get a warranty claim replacement?
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Did you check whether you use adaptive charging?
It's designed to let the phone fully charge ONLY shortly before you wake up (set wakeup timer).
I mean, it never properly worked for me, but maybe it does for you. Lol.

My Battery life is fantastic! I have adaptive battery on. When it's at it takes about 20 min of hard use to even move from 100 to 99. I have no idea why yours does that but I'm beginning to think these are trolls because so far my p6 pro is a powerhouse. Works amazing. I love this phone. Every other dam post is complaint after complaint. Even crappy phones on other forums don't get this kind of grief. Google probably over hyped the phone and people are annoyed that they had to wait to get one or it's a massive drive by Samsung to tone down the sales of Google.......Too bad Samsung won't just allow bootloader unlock to be easy and painless. Otherwise I wouldn't BE Loving my p6 pro.....

As others have pointed out, adaptive charging is supposed to slow the charging down so it hits 100% within the hour of your alarm to wake up. You can actually see it say adaptive charging on the always on display at the bottom of it's engaged. But not hitting 100% isn't what it's supposed to do. What charger are you using with it?

wulfgarfang said:
it takes about 20 min of hard use to even move from 100 to 99
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That's not actually a good thing unless each point takes the same amount of usage. This actually suggests that the battery level is poorly calibrated.

wulfgarfang said:
I'm beginning to think these are trolls because so far my p6 pro is a powerhouse.
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You got me. Been a member of XDA since 2013 and I decided to pick 2021 to start trolling.

Novakingwai said:
You got me. Been a member of XDA since 2013 and I decided to pick 2021 to start trolling.
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People here asked you many questions to find out of it's a user mistake/problem, or if the phone is the rootcause of the issue.
You answered not one single question (as of now).
So it's fair to assume that you are a troll.

stuff said:
Check in the settings if "adaptive charging" is enabled. I believe it is by default.
This feature attempts to sync up your overnight charge with the time you wake up.
If it's miscalculating when you wake up, it might not be charging enough. It should eventually learn when you do wake, assuming it's the same time, etc.
But you can just switch it off completely and allow the phone to charge as it normally would.
As far as mobile network standby goes, I'm not sure. I've noticed in the past this is usually because little to no cell service, so the phone is trying very hard to find a signal (boosting more power to that internal module) and thus draining battery more. Do you have poor service where you sleep?
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I'll try turning off adaptive battery and charging. I read some saying the adaptive battery isn't working right even after days of "calibrating." And the adaptive charging is new to me, turning that off also to test for a couple days.
I have tmobile and the entire area from my home to work is covered in 5G. Was working great on my S20+ for a couple days until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I went to tmobile store yesterday. They gave me a new SIM and checked their system. I'm literally about 1000 feet from a 5G tower. They showed me a calendar supposedly they've been working in the area and having intermittent service issues, doesn't explain why I get no signal all day.
I've factory reset the phone and didn't copy over anything from my old phone, seeing if that will help.

Novakingwai said:
I'll try turning off adaptive battery and charging. I read some saying the adaptive battery isn't working right even after days of "calibrating." And the adaptive charging is new to me, turning that off also to test for a couple days.
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I'm currently trying out Adaptive Battery off for the next week just to see if there's a noticeable difference. I'll be tracking it with AccuBattery Pro and took a screenshot of my a averages before turning it off.

EeZeEpEe said:
I'm currently trying out Adaptive Battery off for the next week just to see if there's a noticeable difference. I'll be tracking it with AccuBattery Pro and took a screenshot of my a averages before turning it off.
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I remember talks back in the days when it was introduced (Android Pie, Pixel 3 I think) and already then people claimed to improve their battery life by "turning that **** off" - it would be a bit devastating to know that Google still hasn't fixed that.

Morgrain said:
I remember talks back in the days when it was introduced (Android Pie, Pixel 3 I think) and already then people claimed to improve their battery life by "turning that **** off" - it would be a bit devastating to know that Google still hasn't fixed that.
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Wow it has been that long since it was first introduced. Time flies. Just on day one right now and I'm already seeing more screen off drain. Will see how every turns out next week.

Return it.
May be a battery failure in progress.
While many Androids can be battery hogs until they sorted out, all should charge normally with a known good brick and cable.

Novakingwai said:
I've had the phone for about 2 weeks. The battery life is horrible. I leave the phone charging over night and sometimes it stops charging all together. Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. Left phone laying on night stand. Woke up to 70% battery after 8 hours of doing nothing. Mobile network standby used 42% of my battery drain. What is going on with this phone? Should I get a warranty claim replacement?
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Hi. I'm typing this answer form my new P6P as Google decided to replace my old device. I set up my phone from scratch without transfering anything from old device AND THE ISSUE IS STILL THERE. Insanely high network standby battery drain +25% of the whole capacity. This is nuts. The employee told me specifically that I won't have this problem with my new device. I don't know what to do. I think I'll just return it and to for a different phone. Btw my partner has a non-pro P6 and he has exactly the same issue. Our sim cards are vodafone.de. Lost count how many hours I was trying to fix this problem. What a time waster.

Novakingwai said:
I'll try turning off adaptive battery and charging. I read some saying the adaptive battery isn't working right even after days of "calibrating." And the adaptive charging is new to me, turning that off also to test for a couple days.
I have tmobile and the entire area from my home to work is covered in 5G. Was working great on my S20+ for a couple days until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I went to tmobile store yesterday. They gave me a new SIM and checked their system. I'm literally about 1000 feet from a 5G tower. They showed me a calendar supposedly they've been working in the area and having intermittent service issues, doesn't explain why I get no signal all day.
I've factory reset the phone and didn't copy over anything from my old phone, seeing if that will help.
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Good luck, hopefully the factor reset fixes whatever was going haywire. Usually that does help people as a last resort effort

Question Network standby battery drain exceeding 29% always P6P. Why?

As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.

skipabeat123 said:
As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.
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I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8% (24 hours)
29% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
The weaker the signal, the harder your phone will try to connect, meaning it will use more power.
Of course this shouldn't happen, even with a bad connection. ~30% battery drain in 24 hours because of STANDBY drain is a joke and terrible.

Morgrain said:
I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8%
27% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
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At work place I have 5g connection and at home it says 4g. The connection here is good. I tried disabling 5g but the outcome as always the same. Insanely high battery drain by network standby.

I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA

Opensystem said:
I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA
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Thanks for the reply. I do not care about the consumption during the night. I work +10h and I cannot rely on this device to get me through the day.

Only 29%?? *Cries*

craznazn said:
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Jeeesus. Part of me wonders if Google knew about this stuff and that's why they jammed a 5000mah battery in this thing. I've been debating dropping the 120hz screen down to 60hz to help offset this stuff, but unfortunately after using it, I'm spoiled. Plus there's discussion that there's problems with the implementation of 60hz frequency on top of it.
Really hoping custom kernels and roms can help eventually.

Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Az Biker said:
Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community

craznazn said:
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Seems to be about what i got. I just realized it was 39% on my last charge cycle.
I was using dual sim though, one physical and one e-sim. The physical one is from my old country as i still only activate it for 2fa only (no roaming, no call, no nothing) and the e-sim is local where i live now (europe).
Im going to try and disable the physical sim when i sleep tonight, and see where it goes in the morning when i wake up. Currently i have 54% charge left, and mobile network standby is using 26% already. Geez. Im working from home so its pretty much all wifi.

Morgrain said:
Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Yes we are talking about standby network battery consumption. Imagine a phone for 999€ where standby network drain sucks 3 times more juice as the display. Pixel 6 Pro.

Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.

Morgrain said:
Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.

Az Biker said:
Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.
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Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?

kheltek said:
Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?
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Phone auto toggles from 5g to LTE.

Turn off "Adaptive Connectivity" in settings, network & internet

Just read this thread and check my network standby an it was 15% with 70% charge left on the phone.

Az Biker said:
Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.
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How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.

skipabeat123 said:
How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.
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Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
Not to mention these are highly sophisticated, intricately made, and technology packed very compact items. There are bound to be some that get past the QA process.

Az Biker said:
Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
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That's all irrelevant. I've been testing my pixel for a day in safe mode and the result was absolutely the same. The network standby was not dropping below 35%. I asked other users to test this too and they had it under 4%.
As I wrote this phone is already a replacement. It seems to be a lottery.