As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.
skipabeat123 said:
As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.
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I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8% (24 hours)
29% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
The weaker the signal, the harder your phone will try to connect, meaning it will use more power.
Of course this shouldn't happen, even with a bad connection. ~30% battery drain in 24 hours because of STANDBY drain is a joke and terrible.
Morgrain said:
I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8%
27% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
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At work place I have 5g connection and at home it says 4g. The connection here is good. I tried disabling 5g but the outcome as always the same. Insanely high battery drain by network standby.
I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA
Opensystem said:
I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA
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Thanks for the reply. I do not care about the consumption during the night. I work +10h and I cannot rely on this device to get me through the day.
Only 29%?? *Cries*
craznazn said:
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Jeeesus. Part of me wonders if Google knew about this stuff and that's why they jammed a 5000mah battery in this thing. I've been debating dropping the 120hz screen down to 60hz to help offset this stuff, but unfortunately after using it, I'm spoiled. Plus there's discussion that there's problems with the implementation of 60hz frequency on top of it.
Really hoping custom kernels and roms can help eventually.
Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Az Biker said:
Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
craznazn said:
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Seems to be about what i got. I just realized it was 39% on my last charge cycle.
I was using dual sim though, one physical and one e-sim. The physical one is from my old country as i still only activate it for 2fa only (no roaming, no call, no nothing) and the e-sim is local where i live now (europe).
Im going to try and disable the physical sim when i sleep tonight, and see where it goes in the morning when i wake up. Currently i have 54% charge left, and mobile network standby is using 26% already. Geez. Im working from home so its pretty much all wifi.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Yes we are talking about standby network battery consumption. Imagine a phone for 999€ where standby network drain sucks 3 times more juice as the display. Pixel 6 Pro.
Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.
Morgrain said:
Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.
Az Biker said:
Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.
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Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?
kheltek said:
Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?
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Phone auto toggles from 5g to LTE.
Turn off "Adaptive Connectivity" in settings, network & internet
Just read this thread and check my network standby an it was 15% with 70% charge left on the phone.
Az Biker said:
Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.
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How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.
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How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.
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Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
Not to mention these are highly sophisticated, intricately made, and technology packed very compact items. There are bound to be some that get past the QA process.
Az Biker said:
Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
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That's all irrelevant. I've been testing my pixel for a day in safe mode and the result was absolutely the same. The network standby was not dropping below 35%. I asked other users to test this too and they had it under 4%.
As I wrote this phone is already a replacement. It seems to be a lottery.
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What kind of battery life are you guys getting?
On good days, this is what I am able to get.
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jiexi said:
What kind of battery life are you guys getting?
On good days, this is what I am able to get.
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I dont get it.. I got the phone 3 days ago, but if Im lucky, the phone lasts for maybe 6-7 hours?
It gets extremely hot when used in couple of minutes, and its like the battery is drained by something hidden.
On a night it loses about 6-7% in 6-8 hours of standby with data etc turned off
I have turned push, sync, NFC, smart screen and all that "smart" stuff off.. so I have no idea bout what drains the battery. Even the screen is on 50% and auto -_-
I have the korean version (I think?) the european version - bought in Denmaek, stock. Not rooted or anything - but is it possible to root the EU/KR edition or is it only for the Canada/Sprint edition?
Same for me. Hes obviously not using hes phone much and not on LTE.
The battery life of G on LTE is really terrible.
By the way mo on arent hot last days, probably they fixed it.
Web via LTE eats like 15%-20% per hour, reading a book on small bright is 3%-4% per hour
Tim4 said:
Same for me. Hes obviously not using hes phone much and not on LTE.
The battery life of G on LTE is really terrible.
By the way mo on arent hot last days, probably they fixed it.
Web via LTE eats like 15%-20% per hour, reading a book on small bright is 3%-4% per hour
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Is there any way to tunr of LTE/4G then? I'd rather have good battery and like 20mbit than a few hours battery and 45-50mbit download speed .. :laugh:
Battery life is consistently around 11.5-13 hrs with moderate to heavy usage.
My battery is crap too sometimes is ok ..
but it is just screen what drains .. and + if u browsing internet and u have flash enabled it is big drainer added .. needs more cpu power..
if u put mobile on eco mode turn down screen to 25%-30% turn all radios off u should be fine
download apps like battery calibration . or battery stats or juice defender
NickereN2O said:
I dont get it.. I got the phone 3 days ago, but if Im lucky, the phone lasts for maybe 6-7 hours?
It gets extremely hot when used in couple of minutes, and its like the battery is drained by something hidden.
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I'm really not an expert at this. I have also just opened my Optimus G, so I can't share my personal experience with this phone. However, the battery of my Lumia 920 needed around a week to function properly. The first three days I got heating and drain, almost 10% per hour, but now the phone lasts easily for two days with light usage. I was looking everywhere on different forums for hidden factors draining the battery, until I found a comment, where someone described this phenomenon: he said that a battery needs around 12 full cycles of drain and full recharge before optimal performance can be obtained. So from now on I will be more patient.
Then again, I'm new here, so other opinions are welcome.
eeemm that is not true i had phones over years and batt been always same..
it is all about usage ..
jut do test charge it fully and dont do nothing with it just ocasional phone calls and sms's and ull see then..
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For me on jb v03 I get around 18-19 hours with around 3 hours screen time, but agree its all about usage.
I mean if you leave your phone off most of the day with your wifi and data turned off it will drain very slowly..
I find the biggest drain is always screen, cellular connection especially when you have poor signal, and wakelocks.
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I'm really not an expert at this. I have also just opened my Optimus G, so I can't share my personal experience with this phone. However, the battery of my Lumia 920 needed around a week to function properly. The first three days I got heating and drain, almost 10% per hour, but now the phone lasts easily for two days with light usage. I was looking everywhere on different forums for hidden factors draining the battery, until I found a comment, where someone described this phenomenon: he said that a battery needs around 12 full cycles of drain and full recharge before optimal performance can be obtained. So from now on I will be more patient.
Then again, I'm new here, so other opinions are welcome.
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I had same xperience with my iPhone 5 so I hope its the same with my LG.
But for know I've installed JuiceDefender and disabled LTE (HSDAP+ i fast enough for my needs on the phone anyway)
exactly this is my problem ..
we traveling to the places while am in work and there are areas where is poor signal or no signal that means phone automaticaly boost its signal which is very big drain and if your mobile has no signal at all and u obviously set to automatic search it searching searching and draining hell lot!
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this is true as well 4g signal is even stronger signal as previous 2g 3g drains so much plus when u surfing on the net!
when 4g will be standard the manufs will have to make new generation of batteries to stay last longer o LTE..
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Phone idle is draining battery for me. Any suggestions?
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I've already installed most of "LG" apps that were preinstalled on the phone.
Phone idle 28%
Screen 17%
Cell standby 17%
weaselEST said:
Phone idle is draining battery for me. Any suggestions?
I've already installed most of "LG" apps that were preinstalled on the phone.
Phone idle 28%
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Phone idle refers to the amount of battery cell radios are using up when the phone is sleeping. I would recommend moving to an area with better reception and disabling data when unneeded.
Data is disabled (and wifi).
battery life is fantastic, i get roughly 5 hours on screen time, when i finish work i have 70 - 80% battery with 1.5 hours screen time
My battery life on CM.
Disappointed kinda, expected great improvement compared to stock rom
After few weeks of heavy usage, I am noticing the battery performance to improve considerably, I'm running stock 4.1.2. V10D
Hey,
I have the One M8 and i was thinking about the M9 mainly for the battery.
I bought my One M8 about 7 months back and I've have been having the worst battery life. I get about less than 3 hours of OST (ON Screen Time) it won't go beyond that and I loose about 40~50% of battery in 5 or 6 hrs of standby time. Hell, this one day I charged my phone to it's maximum by 2pm and after listening to music for about 6 hours. I lost about 70% battery with 40min SOT with no call or texting.
Clearly something is wrong here. But... I don't know, maybe it's the LTE network or I was a Note 3 user before I got the M8. Maybe the 2days battery life spoilt me because according to Gsam
-battery life is 1d 1.8h (6h 23m active)
-screen On: 1h 46m (1h 44m MAX)
PS: I'm sorry I couldn't post any posts any screenshots. My phone is 100% charged as of now.
I tried everything from going to stock to custom ROM to different kernels. Turning OFF Google services (Google Now and location reporting), turning OFF mobile data, disabling sync, no GPS, brightness set to 20%, killing media server, greenify system apps and even maintaining the wakelocks using Amplify battery extender and even reading a lot of post on XDA to save battery. I still loose a lot of power.
Is this what 2600mAh has to offer.
Will the new 2,840mAh with 810 processor be any different.
Or should I just send my M8 for repair and hope I don't end with up a refurbished phone because I've had a lot of bad experience with a refurbished phones. I don't wanna do that mistake again.
Or should I get the Nexus 6 and get this over with.
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Hey,
I have the One M8 and i was thinking about the M9 mainly for the battery.
I bought my One M8 about 7 months back and I've have been having the worst battery life. I get about less than 3 hours of OST (ON Screen Time) it won't go beyond that and I loose about 40~50% of battery in 5 or 6 hrs of standby time. Hell, this one day I charged my phone to it's maximum by 2pm and after listening to music for about 6 hours. I lost about 70% battery with 40min SOT with no call or texting.
Clearly something is wrong here. But... I don't know, maybe it's the LTE network or I was a Note 3 user before I got the M8. Maybe the 2days battery life spoilt me.
I tried everything from going to stock to custom ROM to different kernels. Turning OFF Google services (Google Now and location reporting) killing media server, greenify system apps and even maintaining the wakelocks using Amplify battery extender and even reading a lot of post on XDA to save battery. I still loose a lot of power.
Is this what 2600mAh has to offer.
Will the new 2,840mAh with 810 processor be any different.
Or should I just send my M8 for repair and hope I don't end with up a refurbished phone because I've had a lot of bad experience with a refurbished phones. I don't wanna do that mistake again.
Or should I get the Nexus 6 and get this over with.
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Thanks for the quick reply, but can you be a bit more specific.
looks like you're having problems with your battery. did you try changing it? these are the worst battery performances i've ever seen with one m8. something's wrong here but it's not about the phone. it's about your phone.
and i think m9 will have great battery performance as it seems to me.
eyan2011 said:
Hey,
I have the One M8 and i was thinking about the M9 mainly for the battery.
I bought my One M8 about 7 months back and I've have been having the worst battery life. I get about less than 3 hours of OST (ON Screen Time) it won't go beyond that and I loose about 40~50% of battery in 5 or 6 hrs of standby time. Hell, this one day I charged my phone to it's maximum by 2pm and after listening to music for about 6 hours. I lost about 70% battery with 40min SOT with no call or texting.
Clearly something is wrong here. But... I don't know, maybe it's the LTE network or I was a Note 3 user before I got the M8. Maybe the 2days battery life spoilt me because according to Gsam
-battery life is 1d 1.8h (6h 23m active)
-screen On: 1h 46m (1h 44m MAX)
PS: I'm sorry I couldn't post any posts any screenshots. My phone is 100% charged as of now.
I tried everything from going to stock to custom ROM to different kernels. Turning OFF Google services (Google Now and location reporting), turning OFF mobile data, disabling sync, no GPS, brightness set to 20%, killing media server, greenify system apps and even maintaining the wakelocks using Amplify battery extender and even reading a lot of post on XDA to save battery. I still loose a lot of power.
Is this what 2600mAh has to offer.
Will the new 2,840mAh with 810 processor be any different.
Or should I just send my M8 for repair and hope I don't end with up a refurbished phone because I've had a lot of bad experience with a refurbished phones. I don't wanna do that mistake again.
Or should I get the Nexus 6 and get this over with.
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I personally believe the M9 will have one of the best batteries in a phone in 2015 everything is lining up to be that way. and something has to be wrong with your phone you need to check that out asap.
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Thanks for the quick reply, but can you be a bit more specific.
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Do a battery test
if after 1 hr it below than 70% it's not good according to htc
You could try turning on Power Saver mode, it may help you out. But personally, even with Power Saver off, I can easily get 4+ hours of SOT on campus with my battery going from 12 AM to around 10:30 PM and still having about 30% at the end of the day.
Just for battery life? Nope. For a better camera, better speakers, better screen, better CPU, better GPU, Sense 7, and other under-the-hood improvements AND for a better battery than the battery in your older M8, yes, it's worth it.
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Google Pixel's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
First night dropped 12% in 6 hours. Not impressed. But I gotta break in that battery.
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I've been losing around 3 % to standby drain over my typical heavy 9 hour sleep (Rx induced)!
I've had mine since last Tuesday.
5" Pixel version.
Battery doesn't seem to go down unless I really get on device for a couple minutes.
Wheee!
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Last night my pixel went down 2% over about 7.5 hrs so the standby time is pretty good.
My Pixel actually dozed for it's first night. We'll have to see if it keeps going. My N5x gave up dozing a long time ago.
The doze mode has been great for me so far. Standby time is better than any other android phone I've used.
From my other reply:
Battery has been pretty good for me so far. Seems to be settling in with optimization after a few days. Dropped 0% overnight last night which is awesome.
GSAM Monitor is saying my average is 19 hrs on, 4.5 hours of screen on time usage, 1-2 hours of screen off usage like phone calls, music.
EDIT: I also have pretty crappy signal at work.
Stand by time hasn't been a real problem for awhile. My Nexus 5 on KitKat and Lollipop(both before Doze) and only a 2,300mAh would only drop 2-3% over 8 hours. It's usage time that really matters.
Mine dropped about 10% the first night (Mon 24th), but I do live in an area that has poor reception. Have to place phone next to window just to get text and calls. If I go outside I may get LTE at 1 or 2 bars. Overall though battery hasn't been an issue and I love the rapid charging.
Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Good lord man!
My phone is my alarm clock, so I couldn't do that if I wanted to.
ourjim said:
Good lord man!
My phone is my alarm clock, so I couldn't do that if I wanted to.
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I'm "blessed" with an extremely good body clock, which means I wake up at 6.30 every day without any alarm... Even at the weekends
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Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Yes ! Now a days u are lmao
doesn't the alarm still go off when it's turned off? my galaxy note 4 does that
Probably.
Using Accubattery to measure screen off battery drain I am typically between 75-85ma. Has anyone else measured their standby power consumption, curious what other values are as this seems high to me.
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Tested it overnight with and without bluetooth on, got it down to 40ma without bluetooth, averaged 70ma with bluetooth on overnight. Also got to test a Note 4 under the same conditions though without a SIM card. The Note 4 was using 11ma without bluetooth and 18ma with bluetooth on. Both phones connected to the same WIFI the whole time. May have to do a full reset on the Pixel as the standby power consumption is definitely out of hand.
Standby
My Google Pixel currently drains an excessive amount of battery even on standby, however thanks to quick charging its up and ready in 15 minutes. OS seems to be heavy usage of battery at the moment.
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Using Accubattery to measure screen off battery drain I am typically between 75-85ma. Has anyone else measured their standby power consumption, curious what other values are as this seems high to me.
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Tested it overnight with and without bluetooth on, got it down to 40ma without bluetooth, averaged 70ma with bluetooth on overnight. Also got to test a Note 4 under the same conditions though without a SIM card. The Note 4 was using 11ma without bluetooth and 18ma with bluetooth on. Both phones connected to the same WIFI the whole time. May have to do a full reset on the Pixel as the standby power consumption is definitely out of hand.
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While I still think the Samsung will have slightly better standby drain, this isn't a good test. You cannot compare a phone with a cell signal to one without. The biggest battery drain on a phone is typically cell signal.
If you pulled the sim card out of the pixel and let the phones sit side by side overnight, that would be something.
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While I still think the Samsung will have slightly better standby drain, this isn't a good test. You cannot compare a phone with a cell signal to one without. The biggest battery drain on a phone is typically cell signal.
If you pulled the sim card out of the pixel and let the phones sit side by side overnight, that would be something.
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I agree, this test is not a great comparison. The Note 4 did still have cell signal as they do connect to service without a sim card, but likely it is not the same as having proper service (LTE). I was trying to get the lowest draw possible on the Pixel and managed to average 29ma in airplane mode. This is the lowest I have got yet with the device which although is decently low draw is still abysmal considering that it had no apps running and no radios active. What is even more interesting to me is that google claims that the phone has 456 hours of standby time which suggests radios active (at least cell), unless my math is wrong this works out to a standby drain of 6ma which at least on my phone seems to be completely unattainable even with radios off.
I have looked around the forums but haven't seen anyone else posting power consumption information with the regular or XL pixel so I have no idea if this is unique to my phone or just standard with the Pixel. I haven't yet factory reset the phone but that would have been next, except that I am exchanging the device due to an unrelated issue. I guess I will see how the next one stacks up in this regard.
Thought I would post an update on my findings. After getting a new device and still having issues I have an answer and partial solution to my terrible standby drain. The culprit in my case is LTE. I am on FIDO in Canada which does use Band 4 though I am not certain if that is being used in my area. Anyways if I set my preferred network type to 3g my standby drain improves dramatically as the device idles around 10-15ma in my pocket and overnight is more like 6ma which is phenomenal. As soon as I set my network back to LTE my standby drain is 70-90ma and at best 40ma overnight if I'm lucky. My cell service for 3g and LTE are both good (green in battery stats). I know LTE requires more power however I would expect that power requirement to drop significantly when connected to WIFI networks which in my case doesnt seem to matter at all. At least now my battery life is awesome as others have reported. However connecting to 3g when away from home is a bummer and it's not really practical to manually change my preferred network every time I leave or enter a WIFI area. Looking at a way to automate this switch but on Android 5+ it seems that changing these settings via app are very locked down. I would also like to point out that my previous phones never seemed to suffer from this issue which only further makes me suspect that there is an unresolved underlying issue here (maybe related to the Band 4 issues being reported?). It sure is nice to open my battery stats window now and see some horizontal line segments instead of the linear march towards zero.
Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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Best way to go is using normal charge an never let the battery drop below 20% forget about trying to maintain certain range (60-80), it will just drive you crazy
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If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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Holmes108 said:
If I put my iPad mini to sleep at 100%, I wake up the next morning with 100%. Maybe 99. But usually 100.
That's not the norm, and it's not perfect apples to apples, but it is possible.
Also, 2 days of standby with zero use is not unusual, but definitely not "crazy good".
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So... buy an iPhone?
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So... buy an iPhone?
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So far you've been Super helpful to the op. Thanks for posting.
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If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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It went down TO 2% not down 2%.
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That's not what he said. Read it again.
"Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use? "
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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rcobourn said:
If it went down 2% in an hour, that's 50 hours of standby plus always on display. That's crazy good.
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So besides that little fight you had with the other forum member (lol) I appreciate your comment. But there seems to be back and forth, one other person says its good, another says its not. (the one I quoted below). Just seems weird to me that with no open or running apps and just the always on display running that it went down in an hour in 2%. Searching around, people saying losing 1% In an hour with the same set up, no running apps with AOD is bad. I kind of agree since its not truly in use. But unfortunately I cannot find any battery standby tests from Samsung or anyone else to confirm it.
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Wow that is unusual. Do a search for "sleeping apps" in setting and add all the apps you don't need running in the back ground. Also in device care > battery you can see what app is using your battery.
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I agree with you more honestly that it shouldn't be going down that fast in an hour with just the AOD running. I didn't have any apps running once it 100%, I was on it while charing it to around 50% but then once I knew I was putting it down for a while I ran the optimization and had the phone kill all the apps. When I saw it go down the 2% I did check out the apps using the battery and the AOD was the only thing listed. Maybe I didn't charge to a full 100%? even though it said 100%... Ill check it out tomorrow once I charge it fully again, today I was charging it up and down most of the day sadly. I try and keep most apps from not running in the background, some I do need though like for my IoT devices needing to know my location, I have yet to change that to just using LTE as my location GPS, but that was not on last night all. Ill try out the sleeping apps though, I didn't know there was a setting for that. Thanks again
AOD typically consumes 1%~2% in my past note devices(7,8,9)
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Hello everyone, new to the forum since I just picked up my note 10+ and thiught this forum seemed more knowledgeable than others for battery issues or issues in general. I dont really know if it's an issue but I'm curious of how others people batteries are acting for their note 10+'s. Mine died a few hours ago and once it hit 100% I removed the charger and didn't use it for just over an hour and I noticed my battery went down to 2%. I have my always on screen on of course, most of the apps were dead and I did optimize the battery in the settings while my phone was charging then stopped using it until it charged fully. So I had no apps open and I had a version of battery saving on. I did medium but left the higher res screen on including the cpu at 100%. Would this cause my battery to go down 2% in an hour without any use?
For a side question, is there a better way to get the most out of your battery? I always thought it was let it die everyone inna while but I read recently charging it to 80 then letting it down to 60 and back up to 80 and repeat is the best? If that's true, how do you keep that up and how long will you need to keep that before normal chargers?
Thanks. Hope someone can help
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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In an hour? Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use.
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Battery optimization takes a little bit so if you just started using the phone give it a few days.
Also, package disabler or ADB can be used to turn off any major things that you are not using (i.e. Bixby or DeX).
Regarding Cell life: Yes between about 30% and 80% are the optimal percents. That doesn't mean try and always keep it there, that would just be silly and unrealistic.
However, it is important to be conscious of this. For example, don't leave your phone on the charger for days on end sitting at 100%. Don't leave your phone in a drawer or a backpack with 0% in the cells.
Cells are technically damaged (or worn would be a better word) every cycle. The most damage comes from when the voltage drops to its lowest point and its highest point. (i.e. 0% and 100%)
For example, if someone were to charge a LiPo or Li-Ion battery only between 30% - 80% for an entire year and another person with the same phone always went down to 1% and always to 100%, the latter phone would have more cell wear thus it would not hold as much power.
Once you learn of this and become conscious of this then you tend to adjust your habits. All other myths and theories about battery calibration have really not been a thing in many many generations of Android. While you can screw up battery calibration through a service menu, rarely (if at all) a battery loses calibration. Most people start seeing battery wear and think its a calibration issue and then seek ways to fix this. At that point, it cannot be achieved because there is a physical change to their battery which can only be refreshed by getting a new battery.
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This is useful, thank you. Never knew not discharging device is the way to go but we all learn new things every day. I'm at 65% right now, when waking up at 6am with 95%. Wireless android auto for about an hour, plus okay-ish use. Ill make sure to charge it up to around 80% tonight.
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Give it a couple days to settle. The first three days, mine got pretty bad battery life. Then yesterday I got almost 10 hours of screen time after using it pretty heavy all day. Mixture of Facebook (battery hog), Internet, texting, emailing, and using the camera (also a battery hog). What finally killed the battery was me downloading, installing, and uninstalling multiple versions of GCam trying to find one that worked well enough to use. I finally found one before my phone hit 0%.
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Thanks, I think I am seeing a bit better today after having it for 4 days or so now? Ill follow the above quote about calibration and go from there.
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Reporting my battery life. I guess this is truly an all day device.
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Over 8 hours screen time is great, best I've gotten so far is 7.5 hours
I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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I just wanted to throw my two cents in here... My battery life is pretty terrible in comparison to my S10+. Trying to find a rogue app of some sort but I just hit 1% with 12 hours off the charger. Keep in mind that is not 12 hours of use. In fact I used it for about an hour of total screen time today.
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Yeah I came from an S10+ and noticed my battery on the N10+ was pretty bad in comparison.
I did restore everything from my S10+ though, not a clean install of everything.
Wonder if that may be causing issues.
Is everyone having problems on Verizon?
Quote " Last night I even scheduled it off and had no running apps and medium power saving mode fully on and lost 5% battery in roughly 7 hours with no use."
Unless you put it in airplane mode, your phone will keep connected to cell tower (or wifi if you have wifi calling) otherwise you won't receive calls and messages, so there is no such thing as phone with no use, and if you have weak signal or some interference your battery usage can increase drastically even in standby because the cell radio will try to connect at full transmit power. And then you have all those programs running in the background, God knows what they're doing. As others suggested disable programs you don't use, also you can force close programs that you don't use often. When I had my older Note rooted, I optimized it so well it would run 2% down per 8 hrs overnight, but it took some effort. Biggest problem is to know what to disable without loosing functionality for stuff you need. Give it some time for people to learn more about new phone. BTW my 3 day old phone has 435 apps and services installed and most of them I have no idea what they do.
Well at least I still have my (shady) sense of humor.
Hey guys.
2 weeks with the Note 10+, 256GB/12GB - Exynos. I keep seeing those wonderful SOT reports. 8 hours, 9 hours, 10 hours! I'm not even talking about those posting screenshots of 12-14 hours...
They all use WQHD. They all use Facebook. They even use youtube and netflix, on wi-fi and on mobile with more than 50% brightness, and they all get at worst 8 hours of Screen on time.
Little me, on the other hand, uses mostly whatsapp and text, reduce his brightness when possible, check for hungry apps all the time, yet even on Airplane mode, I barely get get to 0% with 5 hours of SOT.
What am I missing? What is the magic trick? Is it possible that I'm having some sort of a hardware failure? Bad luck?
Don't get me wrong, 5 hours of sot, compared to my dying and evil LG G4 is still amazing, but I just can't wrap my head around this difference between exactly the same devices, this huge difference.
Let there be light
and sot.
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
Don't worry mate, those 8,9,10 hours of SOT are for people who watch lots of Videos like YouTube etc on their device and seldom use camera or do gaming on their Phone. SOT is very subjective and differs from person to person. I get 5 to 6 hours of SOT myself and is pretty happy with it
As others said it's hard to compare, for example weak cell/wifi signal can discharge battery pretty fast even with screen off. After saying that, you should disable everything you can that you don't use. Also, forget SOT, see how much your phone discharges overnight when it's not in use. For example charge before sleep to 100%, wake up and see what's the charge after 6-8 hours of standby. If it's less than 94-92 %, then you may have rogue app than runs down your battery and finding it and fixing it may help you a lot.
Shtihi said:
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
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No, it is not
Anything over 5 hours is not that bad imo! However, i would expect that the note 10 plus should easily be hitting 6 hours minimum for the majority of users depending on there usage! I have literally only got my hands on my device today and after about 30 minutes use plus a software update it has dropped just 6%
my .2 cents , if your phone can last long enough for you to achieve what ever you want to do achieve in day and without you running behind a charger then you got yourself a keeper .
so don't worry about SOT , standby time ... use your phone to its fullest extent and enjoy it
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my .2 cents , if your phone can last long enough for you to achieve what ever you want to do achieve in day and without you running behind a charger then you got yourself a keeper .
so don't worry about SOT , standby time ... use your phone to its fullest extent and enjoy it
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I can totally agree with that, but there's this little voice in my head (Well, there are plenty, but that's not our current burning issue), that's just keep telling me that it doesn't make sense that when both people use the exact same device, with almost the exact same settings, the difference will be so big...
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I can totally agree with that, but there's this little voice in my head (Well, there are plenty, but that's not our current burning issue), that's just keep telling me that it doesn't make sense that when both people use the exact same device, with almost the exact same settings, the difference will be so big...
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but main culprit would be Radios ... so are you using same mobil service provider and living same locality then we can worry if comparatively the battery is life lower.
Me too.onmy have 5 hrs max sot, but I play around 1 to 1.5 hr of Intense gaming.
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but main culprit would be Radios ... so are you using same mobil service provider and living same locality then we can worry if comparatively the battery is life lower.
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Living in a small country, compared to some people who use the same network in the same city (Maybe 5km from each other). Obviously, it's still not a purely scientific comparison, but it's something/
I used to wonder why there was a big difference between my battery performance and the ones I see on the net. Until I went to Taiwan for a vacation. My sucky battery phone then suddenly lasted the whole day. And that was with constant gps usage, constant checking, messaging, googling, etc.
I think the network strength and consistency is the biggest determinant of battery life given the same usage patterns. I live in the Philippines where the signal is not great which is probably why i get a lousy battery life compared to others.
However, the Note 10+ is giving me the best ever battery life ever. Out of all the phones I've owned, this is the only phone to actually surpass the 5 hour screen on time mark.
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I used to wonder why there was a big difference between my battery performance and the ones I see on the net. Until I went to Taiwan for a vacation. My sucky battery phone then suddenly lasted the whole day. And that was with constant gps usage, constant checking, messaging, googling, etc.
I think the network strength and consistency is the biggest determinant of battery life given the same usage patterns. I live in the Philippines where the signal is not great which is probably why i get a lousy battery life compared to others.
However, the Note 10+ is giving me the best ever battery life ever. Out of all the phones I've owned, this is the only phone to actually surpass the 5 hour screen on time mark.
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Signal strength affecting battery life makes sense, I have heard that before, but I have tried going a full day with just Wi-Fi, airport mode and no sim installed, and I got just the same results, so I guess that in my case, it's not related (sadly).
During my normal daily use, at the end of day I end with SOT of 3 to 5 hrs and 65-45% battery left. So absolutely I can get 8-10 hrs and this is with highest screen resolution, 50% brightness, GPS, BT, NFC, AOD and Edge screen on. You may have rogue apps running in the background and using your battery, did you check under settings/device care/ battery what is using your power, even if it's not very accurate, could give you some hints.
I check it constantly, no rogue apps whatsoever. I even did a factory reset, installing only whatsapp and disabling some Samsung apps, yet I still can't reach more than 5 hours of SOT, in almost "lab clean" conditions. Honestly, it's driving me mad.
How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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Hmm... I believe I lost 5% last night. I'll check back tomorrow morning for a more accurate answer.
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in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
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How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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Wtf I lose almost 10% on aod overnight
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The Exynos SoC is garbage.
I learned the hard way with the Galaxy S10+. I thought to myself: "I'll buy the Exynos version so I can have an unlocked bootloader and enjoy custom ROM's and all the good stuff!" Little did I know, it's tough to enjoy the good stuff with such crap battery life.
Snapdragon users of the S10+ were reporting amazing battery life, meanwhile I couldn't get 4 hours of SoT with very careful use. I decided not to make the same error with the Note 10+ and ordered it with a Snapdragon SoC. I can happily report 7-8 hours of SoT and it was only getting better. I'm back on the OnePlus 7 Pro because I may return the Note 10+ for the Galaxy Fold, but I am leaning towards keeping it because the camera is so damned good.
Either way, never buy an Exynos phone. I enjoyed my S8+ with the Exynos chipset, but made a grave error with the S10+. Avoid at all costs if you can. If you need the radio bands that only the Exynos version has - look into getting a battery case because you'll need it.
Good luck Exynos users