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[UPDATE 05/04][DAY 5+6][REVIEW] 3500 mAh extended battery

Update: As stated in one of my posts, I will be posting updates one a day for the first week, one every two days for the rest of the first month, and then one a week (hopefully every Sunday) for the rest of the months. Look forward to it
Review of 3500 mAh Extended Battery for Samsung Galaxy S II​
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05/04/12 - Updated with Days 5 & 6
03/04/12 - Updated with Day Three and Day Four
01/04/12 - Updated with Day Two
I bought an extended battery (3500 mAh) from eBay for about $7 CAD, and it finally arrived the day before yesterday.
When I put it into my phone it was already at 74%. After charging it overnight, I started using it the next day at around 7:30 AM.
Before I post the screenshots of my extended battery (Edit: if anyone is wondering, data is usually always on, and brightness is set to Auto), let's have a look at the original stock 1650 mAh Samsung battery life:
Stock Samsung 1650 mAh Battery:
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With some simple math, at 9% remaining, this would have lasted me just over 7 hours before reaching 0%.
Conditions of usage: As you can see, I like to use my phone a lot with 76% screen time . I barely used my data/wifi. Data was on but not active, and most of the screen time was spent on Moon+ Reader.
Time lasted: On an average day, (I use data a lot and I play games) I would get about 5 h 45 min or less out of my phone. As you can see from the screenshots above, this wasn't really an average day so it lasted longer, which is reasonable as I did not use data very much.
ROM info: Westcrip's Resurrection Remix ICS Pro 1.0 with the kernel that comes with it.
Now let's compare this with the battery life of the 3500 mAh battery.
3500 mAh Extended Battery
Day 1 [30/03/12]:
Time lasted: A whopping 9 hours 20 minutes.
Conditions of usage: As you can see I was connected to wifi most of the time, and unlike the previous screenshots, I was using wifi/data a lot. I don't know why it says screen time is only 28% though because as you can see in the second picture I had "screen on" a lot.
A charge cycle has Battery Monitor reporting this battery's estimated/measured mAh to be 3074 mAh.
Only 500 mAh difference from advertised capacity, but not bad for $7, if I do say so myself. And this is only the first charge/discharge cycle, so I expect an increase in a couple days.
ROM info: AOKP (bezke's), with Siyah Kernel for ICS beta 7.
Day Two [31/03/12]:
This is the result of the second day of using the extended battery:
Time lasted: 8 hours and 30 minutes.
Conditions of usage: Now as you can probably tell I've used my phone a lot more today, with screen on at 40%. I had a lot of free time, so I was pretty much constantly on my phone, using data and also listening to music (through external speakers just below medium volume). Still not bad compared to stock battery. Data was always on, and brightness set to auto, and music was playing through the speakers for about under two hours.
ROM info: AOKP (bezke's), with Siyah Kernel for ICS beta 7.
Day 3 [01/04/12]:
Now a bit of a funny/interesting story here. First, let's see the screenshots and I'll explain:
Seems pretty standard here. But I decided to turn off wifi and data and keep using it a bit, just for texting and reading ebooks. And when the screen was off, I managed to get it into ~97% deep sleep. So, this was the final result before the battery died.
Almost a whole extra hour usage, and here is CPU Spy's report on Deep Sleep. However, this is not standard. If you're like me, you like using your phone a lot. So we won't count this last screenshot.
Time lasted: 9 hours and 6 minutes.
Conditions of usage: Standard again as usual, but screen time is a bit higher. Unfortunately as a user requested I forgot to take a screenshot of the screen time. I will do it for the next day though. In the meantime, get out your calculator, haha.
ROM info: HyDrOG3N-ICS (AOKP), with latest codeworkx kernel.
Day 4 [02/04/12]:
This is the fourth day result.
Screen time screenshot included as requested.
Time lasted: 7 hours 35 minutes.
Conditions of usage: Today's usage was not very standard at all. I used data almost constantly today, and played around with Cerberus which also consumed a bit of battery life through the GPS and data/wifi. Phone got pretty hot through the constant usage which I hear drains battery faster. I also watched some videos and flash videos too.
ROM info: HyDrOG3N-ICS (AOKP), with NEAK 2.0.1 kernel.
Day 5 [03/04/12]:
Unfortunately there won't be any screenshots for today. My phone crashed and somehow the battery usage got reset, so there's no point. There will still be a report for today as per usual of course.
Time lasted: From 7:30 AM to 4:30 PM, the battery lasted me about 9 hours.
Conditions of usage: Not much to say really. Conditions were normal, and so was the time the battery lasted. ~9 hours, occasionally less, seem to be becoming standard.
ROM info: HyDrOG3N ICS (AOKP) with SiyahKernel v3.0rc2.
Day 6 [04/04/12]:
Here's the report for Day 6. And as you will see, wow, the results aren't standard at all. Also included is Battery Monitor's report on the measured mAh along with details for Screen time.
Time lasted: 7 hours and 2 minutes.
Conditions of usage: 7 hours isn't very standard at all. It's a pretty wide deviation from the norm, but my explanation for this is that I was very very bored. As you can see from the "Screen" time, it says 48% but I actually used it for 5 hours and 6 minutes, which is an astounding 72.5% of screen on time. I amaze myself sometimes. So data was always on but not constantly active, and I played some flash videos and even a flash game, and I was testing out GPS on HyDrOG3N ICS (which sucked at getting a lock-on) so all these factors drained my battery. I also watched some videos on my phone as well.
ROM info: HyDrOG3N ICS (AOKP) with SiyahKernel v3.0rc2.
So in conclusion:
This battery seems well worth it. I am very satisfied with the battery life, and if you are a person who likes to play with his phone a lot (games, Reddit all day, browse the internet), then I recommend this phone as it will last you a good amount of time without needing a charge.
I will be continuing to post updates and screen shots this week as I continue using this battery. Subscribe and look forward to it!

Reserved. I don't know how many more posts I'll need, so I'll reserve another just in case
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Reserved 2.
Please let me know about your experiences with (any of) your extended batteries!
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Testing out mine I bought for $15
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thank you for the update on this. i am quite convinced now not to buy batteries from china

I bought one of these 3500mah batterys for $8.5 from Dealextreme and I am really happy.
My usage at work at times would be consistent to the point of telling the time by the battery percentage so I had a good baseline comparison test to do.
Under the stock battery running the FM Radio for 4 hours with no other use (I work midnights so no calls or anything) would consistently drain 21% of my battery.
With the 3500 it only drains 10% in the same time.
That works out to the battery working as advertised, slightly of double battery life for a battery that is slightly over double size.

It looks good for now, but please come back with a review in 3 months and we'll see how it fares

What's the font used here?

I'm using an extended 3500mah Spider-Foot since in August 2011.
My battery monitor measures it between 3100 to 3200 mAh. After 8 months of use I'm pretty happy. Costed $10 -
Maybe I'm missing the point why I should buy a 10x priced battery with approx same capacity?
Does it increase phone speed?
Well there must be a reason but I haven't figured it out yet.

Original post updated with day 2!
VAXXi said:
It looks good for now, but please come back with a review in 3 months and we'll see how it fares
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I will! I guess since you asked, I'll have constant updates for three months.
I plan to do one a day for a week, and then maybe one every two days for the rest of the month, and then do one a week for the remaining months.
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What's the font used here?
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SegoeWPN Semilight. It's the font family used in Windows Phones. I love it - it's very clean and looks great.
boypinoy18 said:
thank you for the update on this. i am quite convinced now not to buy batteries from china
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This battery is from China (Hong Kong), man. It's very good and I recommend you get it.

How long is your screen on for?

Kaze105 said:
How long is your screen on for?
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I don't know if it's accurate, but the "Screen" percentage should tell you. Usually around 20% to 50% of the time my screen is on.
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waylaidwanderer said:
I don't know if it's accurate, but the "Screen" percentage should tell you. Usually around 20% to 50% of the time my screen is on.
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Thats why im asking how long. % doesnt really mean anything. Click the screen when you are viewing the battery stat. It should tell you how long it has been one for.

Well I just checked, and the percentage corresponds with the number of hours I've been on battery. No seriously, I went ahead and did some math and it was pretty close to the actual screen time value I get when I click it
So while I don't have a screenshot of screen time for Day 2, by my calculations, with 8 and a half hours and 40% screen on time, the actual number of hours is about 3 hours and 30 minutes.
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Either your battery isnt calibrated or the battery is crap when compared to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491736
Or I guess it could just be something else.

Kaze105 said:
Either your battery isnt calibrated or the battery is crap when compared to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491736
Or I guess it could just be something else.
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Look at how little time his phone is awake and his screen is on. That's maybe like 5% total out of 5 days, which is about 6 hours total. My phone gets that in one day if I'm really bored so it's still about the same amount of drain.
I use my phone a lot, as my sole entertainment device. Games, movies, Internet, whatnot. My usage is more realistic than his, however impressive 5 days is. I'm sure if I barely touched my phone I would have the same results. (97% deep sleep is usually achievable unless I'm using it)
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Good idea, I hope you can keep the updates coming. Im convinced to not buy batteries for expensive devices from China. But if you get good results i might reconsider. Thanks and good luck!

Inkness said:
Good idea, I hope you can keep the updates coming. Im convinced to not buy batteries for expensive devices from China. But if you get good results i might reconsider. Thanks and good luck!
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I hope I can too. I hope you find my review informative!
Anyway, original thread updated with Day 3 & 4.

Updated with Days 5 and 6, guys. Hope you find this thread informative and/or useful!
If you have any suggestions or anything you want to see please let me know.

I suggest u include cpu spy screenshot for every day because i can achieve this using stock battery...
Hydrogen-ICS 2803 + Siyah 3b7
No UC or UV
Brightness at 30%
Wifi + data(2G) always on
Im only using my phone for tapatalk,web browsing,facebook,twitter + some youtube so my cpuspy showed that im on 500mhz most of the time...
5 hour of 500mhz and 5 hour of 1200mhz gonna make a huge difference even the screen on time is the same...

Can anyone give their battery life numbers please?

What battery figures are you guys getting? Sot, type of usage, installed apps etc. Thanks.

Used the phone almost 12 hours exactly (11h 59m 26s) and at 75% battery.
SOT - 1h 24m 19s

alose said:
Used the phone almost 12 hours exactly (11h 59m 26s) and at 75% battery.
SOT - 1h 24m 19s
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Thanks for your reply. So that would translate to approximately 6 hours sot I guess?
Anyone else have some numbers please?

Twotems said:
Thanks for your reply. So that would translate to approximately 6 hours sot I guess?
Anyone else have some numbers please?
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It seems like I'll get 4-6 hours of SOT with two sim cards and a bluetooth smartwatch constantly connected. I've been more concerned with measuring standby time than SOT though. Doing a pure standby test, the phone drains just under 1% per hour as far as I can tell... about 6% in 7 hours.
Having left the phone alone, charged to 100%, I'm at 91% after 12 hours, with 5 minutes of SOT. This is on latest EU rom, which is based off of the MIUI 9 developer version released on Sept 22.
Hopefully standby improves with future updates, but generally I've found with two SIMs, standby times just can't be very good on any phone.

duraaraa said:
It seems like I'll get 4-6 hours of SOT with two sim cards and a bluetooth smartwatch constantly connected. I've been more concerned with measuring standby time than SOT though. Doing a pure standby test, the phone drains just under 1% per hour as far as I can tell... about 6% in 7 hours.
Having left the phone alone, charged to 100%, I'm at 91% after 12 hours, with 5 minutes of SOT. This is on latest EU rom, which is based off of the MIUI 9 developer version released on Sept 22.
Hopefully standby improves with future updates, but generally I've found with two SIMs, standby times just can't be very good on any phone.
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That seems reasonable to me. Thanks for the information.

Twotems said:
Thanks for your reply. So that would translate to approximately 6 hours sot I guess?
Anyone else have some numbers please?
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I should also note that I have a Huawei watch connected all the time, Wifi and Bluetooth always on, with about 15 minutes of Pandora streaming during my commute.

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What battery figures are you guys getting? Sot, type of usage, installed apps etc. Thanks.
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After doing my best to drain this beast, I ran the phone 6 hours as a hotspot, along with constant fiddling with the phone because the device is so sweet. Once I got home, I fired up my Slingbox app, and set the brightness to max, and let the phone stream 1080p via 4G until the device died, ~4 hours later.
I push my devices to the limit daily, and have held onto a s6 edge + for so long because the battery recharges so fast, and lasts quite long. However, I still use a Zerolemon case with a 8500mAh battery, because i tether so much. I've also gone through the Pixel XL 128, Xperia Z5 Premium, s8+, and was unimpressed by the battery life when tethering, and playing slingbox.
The Mi Mix 2 is hands down my new favorite phone. I installed playstore, and used the Package disabler app that was only samsung exclusive, to take admin control, and remove the chinese apps. The only thing I am left trying to figure out, is getting sam pay to work from my Gear s3.
Cheers.

alose said:
I should also note that I have a Huawei watch connected all the time, Wifi and Bluetooth always on, with about 15 minutes of Pandora streaming during my commute.
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It's sounding even better as I never use Bluetooth.

iambedook said:
After doing my best to drain this beast, I ran the phone 6 hours as a hotspot, along with constant fiddling with the phone because the device is so sweet. Once I got home, I fired up my Slingbox app, and set the brightness to max, and let the phone stream 1080p via 4G until the device died, ~4 hours later.
I push my devices to the limit daily, and have held onto a s6 edge + for so long because the battery recharges so fast, and lasts quite long. However, I still use a Zerolemon case with a 8500mAh battery, because i tether so much. I've also gone through the Pixel XL 128, Xperia Z5 Premium, s8+, and was unimpressed by the battery life when tethering, and playing slingbox.
The Mi Mix 2 is hands down my new favorite phone. I installed playstore, and used the Package disabler app that was only samsung exclusive, to take admin control, and remove the chinese apps. The only thing I am left trying to figure out, is getting sam pay to work from my Gear s3.
Cheers.
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Excellent. Thanks for the information. I was considering the Mate 9 until I saw the prices and the leaked pics. But it's the Mix2 I've always wanted with the smaller battery being the only question mark. Looks like battery life won't be a problem at all.

Battery life gets closer to the original mix than I expected, Snapdragon 835 and reduced screen size do help compensate more for the battery reduction than I thought it would. I'm on wifi at home but I'm always tinkering with the phone, browsing, reading books, etc etc. I plug it in every day but since I initially charged it to full, I haven't gotten the battery down to 50%. Even if I forget to plug it in after I come home, the phone "rewards" you for leaving it alone. I'm sure as I use more features and apps (shopping for a smartwatch) I'll drain it quicker. Not allowed to use phone at work, I can only do quick tasks for a few seconds at a time. Snapdragon 835's strength seems to be power usage while idling. Again, as I add more apps and features and on days when I'm bombarded by notifications, it will drain faster. I was out of touch with smartphone progress for the past 3 years, I appreciate quick charging more than I expected. I just got up during typing this post to check on the phone. I haven't even moved the charger to the bedroom and that's a good sign. I woke up, phone was at 55%, plugged it in, made coffee, browsed the internet, started posting here and battery is back to 97%.

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EU rom, 4G and wifi mixed usage, 20mins of calls, lot of games/youtube/browsing/telegram/whatsapp/push email etc.
And we are at the 3rd ROM release only from Xiaomi.eu...
Just one word: STUNNING!!!!

alec66 said:
EU rom, 4G and wifi mixed usage, 20mins of calls, lot of games/youtube/browsing/telegram/whatsapp/push email etc.
And we are at the 3rd ROM release only from Xiaomi.eu...
Just one word: STUNNING!!!!
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That's impressive. I'm going to be ordering in the next few weeks. I'm leaning towards the 64gb model as I never use above 25gb on my phones thanks to Google Photos.

I'm really impressed with the Mix 2. MIUI 9 Beta. Battery optimization as well as MIUI Optimization turned off as well no battery saver mode used.
Take a look at the remaining percentage compared to screen on time.
Lots of reading news, YouTube, playing music by streaming, taking photos. This charge primarily on wifi, 90 minutes 4G.
Standby is also very very good indeed. Went to bed last night with 43 procent left. After 7 hours down to 39.
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duckstardeluxe said:
I'm really impressed with the Mix 2. MIUI 9 Beta. Battery optimization as well as MIUI Optimization turned off as well no battery saver mode used.
Take a look at the remaining percentage compared to screen on time.
Lots of reading news, YouTube, playing music by streaming, taking photos. This charge primarily on wifi, 90 minutes 4G.
Standby is also very very good indeed. Went to bed last night with 43 procent left. After 7 hours down to 39.
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I don't see your screen on time, only screen hardware use percentage.

Twotems said:
I don't see your screen on time, only screen hardware use percentage.
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Tell me where to find the right indicator then. I don't know where else to see what you request in MIUI.
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duckstardeluxe said:
Tell me where to find the right indicator then. I don't know where else to see what you request in MIUI.
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Click on the screen percentage in the hardware use page you posted.

Twotems said:
Click on the screen percentage in the hardware use page you posted.
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Doesn't work. Try for yourself.
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Doesn't work. Try for yourself.
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Just tried comparing better battery stats and stock numbers. The difference is within seconds.
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duckstardeluxe said:
Doesn't work. Try for yourself.
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Just tried comparing better battery stats and stock numbers. The difference is within seconds.
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It works for me but I don't know what miui version you are using. Does better battery stats give screen on time like gsam? If so what's the number?

Twotems said:
It works for me but I don't know what miui version you are using. Does better battery stats give screen on time like gsam? If so what's the number?
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As written in the my first post it's the MIUI 9 Beta.
And it looks like you are right. There is around 10% difference after all.
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Around 50 minutes/10%is pretty solid though.

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Nice. Marques telling us the truth!

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For the high SOT refuters, could you also post app usage statistics so they can compare why their SOT is so less when they get nothing but abysmal SOT on 5G with signal strength of 1 bar, 120 Hz at full brightness playing Genshin Impact on extreme graphics for only three hours straight?

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his version of the truth, it doesnt match my version of it

That's why standardized tests are imperative balancing out different versions of truth and help us gauge an average baseline battery performance number
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third time youve posted this now in different threads. Do you really need to spam the forum with it

I've been having decent battery life so far

OtisFeelgood said:
I've been having decent battery life so far
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So what's decent for you? What did you vote on in the poll?

I'm not voting on this* as I know for sure that different usage gives different hours on a day-to-day basis. That said, I'm somewhere in the two best/longest categories and probably more to the best-est (technical term).
*I must remind everyone that mixing qualitative (the experience of) and quantitative (the number of) in the same options is questionable (<50%)

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So what's decent for you? What did you vote on in the poll?
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I chose the 2nd best option. I came from the S21 Ultra. I'd say they both were similar for me when it comes to battery life.

kboya said:
I'm not voting on this* as I know for sure that different usage gives different hours on a day-to-day basis. That said, I'm somewhere in the two best/longest categories and probably more to the best-est (technical term).
*I must remind everyone that mixing qualitative (the experience of) and quantitative (the number of) in the same options is questionable (<50%)
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Yes someone's "okay" is another person's "great" and vice versa but I just went by the hours.

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third time youve posted this now in different threads. Do you really need to spam the forum with it
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It's relevant to the thread. It's the first time in this thread. The third time posting the same thing in different relevant threads over several days, not all at once - is not spamming. Less caffeine for you!

3.6*
Not great, not terrible.
*not talkin' 'bout hours

For me i got 5-6 for 24H Smooth Display On - AOD OFF

roirraW edor ehT said:
It's relevant to the thread. It's the first time in this thread. The third time posting the same thing in different relevant threads over several days, not all at once - is not spamming. Less caffeine for you!
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no, 3 times within 30 mins in 3 seperate threads IS spamming with the same link

skimminstones said:
no, 3 times within 30 mins in 3 seperate threads IS spamming with the same link
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Care to make a third non-relevant post about it in a single thread in a single day?
skimminstones said:
care to stop being an idiot?
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Edit: You don't seem to be learning. I bet you calling me in idiot is actually in XDA's rules to not do, versus the other's posting the same thing in three relevant threads.

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care to stop being an idiot?

Absolutely agree with MKBHD. People may say he is biased towards Apple but he is right this time. I am big Google Pixel series fan. I dont like iOS at all. I am using PIxel 6 Pro and I can tell you the sot i get is 4 to 4.5 hours with smooth display turned on. Mind you I am in a non-5G region and I dont play games at all. Imagine playing games on it as well and using 5G? The sot will surely come down crashing to below 4 hours for sure which is really bad for 5000 mAh battery phone. I use my phone with smooth display turned off and now I get 5.5 hours sot max. The battery life can be decent if you turn off 5G and Smooth display, but whats the point then if you have to compromise?

Just checked the usage and sum up my day:
16 hours total time since cable off.
3.5 hours screen on time (normal-light use, Firefox/FB/Twitter/Calls/SMS etc with some short videos)
45% battery is used. (drop from 85% to 41%)
The idle drop is ~ 2% per hour with ambient display always on, stock ROM, and "hey google" turn off.
Without gaming and heavy videos, it could easily go 8 hours screen-on-time for a whole day.

Question Should I get Pixel 6 or wait for 7

I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!

Welcome to XDA
My thoughts...
Replace the LG battery and be happy.
Lol, if it's got a 5000 mAh battery it's because it sucks juice like a 2nd st hooker.
Variable refresh rate displays are something of a menace, still. Android 12 is a menace

For what it's worth, I don't have any problems with the battery life on my Pixel 6 Pro. I know there have been many others who do, though, as you said.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Wait.

Like everything, battery life will depend on your usage.
I unplugged my P6P this morning at 5:15. It is now 11:45 and battery is at 86%. Most of that battery drop was while I was driving to work, car gets data by tethering through phone, and that draws a fairly continuous flow of navigation data, which while not a large amount of data, keeps the phone awake and drains the battery down.
I also run GrapheneOS, completely free of gooble crap, so that will obviously benefit the battery life substantially.
Unless you can get a real great deal on the 6, I'd wait on the 7. Just keep the old phone plugged in more and you should be able to drag it out long enough.

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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In case money matters, the Pixel 6 series is $200 off right now at the U.S. Google Store. Sale ends Wednesday.

Wait.
Better modem, better fingerprint sensor, face unlock for both models

Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...

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Stay on G7 buy a new battery and don't get a Pixel.
You decide...
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At least get a new battery, regardless you'll have a backup phone. That's a good thing.
You lose nothing by waiting if you can. Then pick the best phone by usability, functionality, and reliability. Does it fullfill it's mission, is it fun to use?
That's why I'm still running 2 N10+'s which I still highly recommend if running on 9 or 10. I haven't seen anything in over 2 years that would do what or how I wanted... I use whatever comes in handy.

I had the LG G7, gave it to my dad who still uses it now. I've owned/used a Pixel 4a, 4a5g and now the Pixel 6 pro. The 6 pro is the best phone I've used out of all of them. I have no battery issues on my 6pro, and it is much faster/nicer experience over the G7. I wanted a bigger screen and an updated/better software experience. The LG G7 on verizon is not getting any updates past Android 9 (not 100% sure?) So I went with an unlocked 6Pro.
Waiting is always going to be your best bet, but it also depends on what your biggest gripes are with the G7 besides the aging battery. If you can get a good deal on the 6/6 Pro or even a Galaxy 22 ultra they both have excellent software update guarantees and great battery. I predict however the difference between the 6pro and 7pro will not be that big and you won't miss out on much other than you having the feeling of knowing you have the latest phone. Look on Swappa site to find great deals now or close to when the 7pro goes on sale. Lots of people there that take good care of their devices looking to sell.

As someone that loves my Pixel 6 Pro, if you can wait then do it.
My biggest gripes with the phone are the modem, 1st gen tensor, and inconsistent fingerprint reader. I live on the cusp of 5G and it wreaks havoc on my battery. I have to turn off 5G when I'm home which is a pain in the butt. The 1st gen tensor also has a tendency to heat up when it's warm out. I've had the phone get super warm and thermal throttle a couple of times now in my first summer with it. My hopes are that the second gen is a little more resilient. Lastly, the fingerprint reader has been hit or miss depending on various screen protectors. Some films worked, some didn't. My first Whitestone Dome was more hit than miss, my second has been flawless but slooow.
All that said, I still love this phone. If you don't want to wait, or can't, then go for it. It has its' quirks, but it's still probably my favorite phone in a while. I'll likely trade up for a P7 Pro when it comes out.

wait until it is with good moderm and good heat managment

I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.

darkness4every1 said:
I just traded my OnePlus 9 Pro for a Pixel 6 Pro and I'm extremely satisfied.
Despite the bad rep I don't have any battery, fingerprint or heat issues. 9 Pro was an oven compared to the Pixel...
I had maximum 2h30m-3h SOT on 9 Pro but on the Pixel I can reach 5h-6h SOT with no issues and I'm a heavy user.
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That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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They might just as well add a micro blower fan and a 10 Ah battery and call it done.

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That's 833-1000 mAh!
If it was getting 350 mAh it get 14 hours SOT.
The heat falls in line to the power consumed.
Google Android is a mess across the board now.
It's not just Pixels...
These new phones should slaughter my N10+ and mind you this is with a battery nearing replacement so it's nowhere near 4300 mAh now.
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My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year

katakuri89 said:
I am currently still using an LG G7. The only reason I'm considering a new phone is because my new situation requires me to use my phone a lot more. I was working from home the past two years and didn't think much about my battery life but now that I'm not, I probably drain to 50% before noon.
My dilemma is with the supposed P6 battery life issues I've been reading about on Reddit. Is this the exception or the rule? It's hard to gauge because I feel like most people that would post about battery life on Reddit would be more likely complaining than praising. So should I wait for the P7? Also, if I did the exact same activities on the P6P would I end up with less battery life at the end of the day compared to the P6? Thank you!
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Maybe consider the Pixel 6A releasing this month?

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My 9 Pro battery reached 3600 mAh in half a year
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Ouch, that can happen. Just replace it when it gets to 80% of its original capacity, the end of it's useful service life to avoid a battery failure. That can damage to display or worse.
I expect a 1 year service life on a heavily used device especially if is used in high temperatures or is constantly under a high current drain. No big deal, just routine maintenance.
Many of the lastest Androids are hot running messes, not well balanced at all. The manufacturer shoving in a huge battery in masks the poor design but it's not a solution

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For me this would even make less sense, because you get the same Tensor and the same crappy modem while you miss out on the main advantage of the P6P - the top camera.

The Google P6P is my first smartphone that can comfortably handle a full day of intensive photography on a day trip, along with looking at the map and recording the route, on a single charge, and still has some power left over.

Question Massiv Battery Drain on Android 13

Hey Guys,
you have also a massiv battery drain on your Pixel Device?
I need to charge it twice a day since I updated to Android 13 ...
Do you think Google will fix it asap?

There are a ton of battery life threads in this section - more than one page of search results. I know battery life has been mentioned with regards to Android 13 in some threads in this section, although I'm not sure if it was in a battery-specific thread.
For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any difference on mine.
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Have you checked to see in the battery usage what's using it

I had this problem before. The fix was completely wipe the device then install everything from scratch, not using restore service. Additionally, I putting background restriction on many battery hungry apps like Facebook, Messenger, Google Maps, etc... Also, I'm using Kirisakura kernel on top of battery restriction. My battery can last up to 22-23 hours.

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I had this problem before. The fix was completely wipe the device then install everything from scratch, not using restore service. Additionally, I putting background restriction on many battery hungry apps like Facebook, Messenger, Google Maps, etc... Also, I'm using Kirisakura kernel on top of battery restriction. My battery can last up to 22-23 hours.
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hmmmm, thats a shame, because it is bad enough setting everything back up again after restoring it. But incredible the battery life you are getting.
My phone has Shamesung health app smashing battery, phone idle and and mobile network cosuming huge battery again

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hmmmm, thats a shame, because it is bad enough setting everything back up again after restoring it. But incredible the battery life you are getting.
My phone has Shamesung health app smashing battery, phone idle and and mobile network cosuming huge battery again
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Try disabling the Physical Activity permission of the Samsung Health App, it might actually do wonders when it comes to battery life. While it wouldn't affect your watch, your device would no longer be able to count steps [for me, that was worth the trade-off].

the answer is bluetooth and wifi failure and trying to reconnect NONSTOP. after 4 factory resets my phone suddenly doesnt do it anymore and battery life is fine. came to this conclusion when i connected my galaxy watch to my phone and is disconnected every couple minutes. looking at the quick settings id see bluetooth looking like its resetting itself. i didnt check the crash log but at this point its kind of common sense what it was. after some research last night i saw i wasnt the only one. it actually was so bad that my phone died over night even tho it was 43% when i went to sleep
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wrfqze

I had my first full day with A13 yesterday and it was hard not to notice how fast the battery was draining, I would have expected this to have been picked up during beta testing

Less than 24 hours since update and I noticed it too.
My Pixel 6 used to be awesome in terms of battery.
But today, after 9 hours it's 30%. It's been some heavy usage, but it should be 50% at least.
Edit: The second day things went back to normal. After 16 hours i'm still at 66%.

The battery drain is bad for the initial 3-4 charge cycles, then it goes back to what was "normal" on A12. Which sucks, since if you listen to YouTube (downloads only, screen off) and use Google Maps while snapping photos (20-30 and no video), the phone will die in less than 8 hours.
In other words, the phone is unfit for travel. Pitty, because the camera is great.
You would think that now that Google has better control over the hardware and complete control over the software (including services), plus a huge 5000mAh battery, the P6P would do far better.
Sure, it's better than my last Pixel, a 3XL, but that was so bad I swore off Pixels.
The iPhone 13 Pro Max lasts twice as long with a much smaller 4353mAh battery. Without having to turn off 5G or regular services. What a joke.

SITREP !
Bluetooth issue still ongoing and still causing the major battery drain. Has 0 to do with what this guy said ^ . Sometimes its OK but most times it just crashed and restarts.

I dont have any of those issues. I guess I got lucky.

43% and it died overnight? Dude that is insane. Even if it is Bluetooth/wifi keeping the phone from truly going into deep sleep, you wouldn't think that alone would be able to completely drain the battery to 0 over the course of what... 5 - 8 hours? (Unless your my ex, then it's more like 14 hours ). Have you pulled any logs or looked at the battery usage? I'd be hesitant to believe that there isn't more going on there contributing to the massive drain. Gotta love google... I remember the first talks of Android 13 was geared towards smarter battery usage. Go figure.

Today my phone has been (and is yet cause the battery is not charged) plugged to a google charger for 3 hours and half and the battery has charged from 40% to 82%
The phone had the screen off for 1 hour by this time. This was when the battery recovered 40%.
I tend to think that we've got, Houston, a big problem here...

No massive battery drain for me. 8.39%/hr active drain and .80%/hr idle drain on stock kernel. Active drain is a little higher than usual for me, probably because of rebooting many times doing stuffs.
Fast charging is also the same for me using an Anker Nano II 30W charger. No problems in that area.

I have no solution, but I can confirm this is an issue. I had no issue before the update lasting up to even 2 days with light use. Now, I even with battery saver turned on, it dies in about 6 hours in my pocket.
I just went on a trip to Toronto last week and it was terrible, had to keep my phone powered off in my pocket so I could still be sure to have enough battery to get an uber back to my airbnb.
So far today at work. I unplugged my phone at 730am to leave for work, it's 1105 and typing this out is the most I've used my phone. It is both warm to the touch and the battery is at 73%.no wait 72% it just went down...

FakeGiraffe01 said:
I have no solution, but I can confirm this is an issue. I had no issue before the update lasting up to even 2 days with light use. Now, I even with battery saver turned on, it dies in about 6 hours in my pocket.
I just went on a trip to Toronto last week and it was terrible, had to keep my phone powered off in my pocket so I could still be sure to have enough battery to get an uber back to my airbnb.
So far today at work. I unplugged my phone at 730am to leave for work, it's 1105 and typing this out is the most I've used my phone. It is both warm to the touch and the battery is at 73%.no wait 72% it just went down...
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Here are 2 examples showing the difference between before and after A13

Just when I was about to switch to my P6P, I'm reading all these problems with slow charging and mediocre battery life. I wonder how widespread they are?
I can't use a new phone that seems to have a worse battery life than my P4XL...
Not to mention the whole sideloading apk FC thing.

Guys, I am also having massive issues with my new Pixel 6 phone which is approx 10 days old only....
A12 was fine for the first days then I want to A13 and then all hell brooke lose The battery drain is awful and I am facing these problems :
- Phone idle is between 20-37% - even when phone is in flight mode for the night it consumes 20-30% instead of normal 1-2%
- Viber is draining battery with 20%+ consuming when its not really used shows usage of 20+ hours Never had such issue.
I am over now 4-5 recharge cycles and I have turned off adaptive almost anywhere... What to do?
Just pray and wait for Google to drop a fix/patch for A13 for our Pixel 6 ???

For those that upgraded from A12 to A13 and having the issue, have you wiped the phone (factory reset) and started fresh? I know it's a PITA getting everything setup again, but that's crazy. I was at 100 percent at 7 am, now 7 hours later, I am at 66 percent with pretty heavy usage... Generally YouTube constantly along with everything else I'm doing. By no means is my battery life amazing, but def comparable to A12 on my end.