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Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Google Pixel's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

First night dropped 12% in 6 hours. Not impressed. But I gotta break in that battery.
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I've been losing around 3 % to standby drain over my typical heavy 9 hour sleep (Rx induced)!
I've had mine since last Tuesday.
5" Pixel version.
Battery doesn't seem to go down unless I really get on device for a couple minutes.
Wheee!
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Last night my pixel went down 2% over about 7.5 hrs so the standby time is pretty good.

My Pixel actually dozed for it's first night. We'll have to see if it keeps going. My N5x gave up dozing a long time ago.

The doze mode has been great for me so far. Standby time is better than any other android phone I've used.

From my other reply:
Battery has been pretty good for me so far. Seems to be settling in with optimization after a few days. Dropped 0% overnight last night which is awesome.
GSAM Monitor is saying my average is 19 hrs on, 4.5 hours of screen on time usage, 1-2 hours of screen off usage like phone calls, music.
EDIT: I also have pretty crappy signal at work.

Stand by time hasn't been a real problem for awhile. My Nexus 5 on KitKat and Lollipop(both before Doze) and only a 2,300mAh would only drop 2-3% over 8 hours. It's usage time that really matters.

Mine dropped about 10% the first night (Mon 24th), but I do live in an area that has poor reception. Have to place phone next to window just to get text and calls. If I go outside I may get LTE at 1 or 2 bars. Overall though battery hasn't been an issue and I love the rapid charging.

Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!

minty1978 said:
Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Good lord man!
My phone is my alarm clock, so I couldn't do that if I wanted to.

ourjim said:
Good lord man!
My phone is my alarm clock, so I couldn't do that if I wanted to.
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I'm "blessed" with an extremely good body clock, which means I wake up at 6.30 every day without any alarm... Even at the weekends

minty1978 said:
Am I the only person that turns their phone off at night?!
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Yes ! Now a days u are lmao

doesn't the alarm still go off when it's turned off? my galaxy note 4 does that

Probably.

Using Accubattery to measure screen off battery drain I am typically between 75-85ma. Has anyone else measured their standby power consumption, curious what other values are as this seems high to me.
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Tested it overnight with and without bluetooth on, got it down to 40ma without bluetooth, averaged 70ma with bluetooth on overnight. Also got to test a Note 4 under the same conditions though without a SIM card. The Note 4 was using 11ma without bluetooth and 18ma with bluetooth on. Both phones connected to the same WIFI the whole time. May have to do a full reset on the Pixel as the standby power consumption is definitely out of hand.

Standby
My Google Pixel currently drains an excessive amount of battery even on standby, however thanks to quick charging its up and ready in 15 minutes. OS seems to be heavy usage of battery at the moment.

guysalami said:
Using Accubattery to measure screen off battery drain I am typically between 75-85ma. Has anyone else measured their standby power consumption, curious what other values are as this seems high to me.
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Tested it overnight with and without bluetooth on, got it down to 40ma without bluetooth, averaged 70ma with bluetooth on overnight. Also got to test a Note 4 under the same conditions though without a SIM card. The Note 4 was using 11ma without bluetooth and 18ma with bluetooth on. Both phones connected to the same WIFI the whole time. May have to do a full reset on the Pixel as the standby power consumption is definitely out of hand.
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While I still think the Samsung will have slightly better standby drain, this isn't a good test. You cannot compare a phone with a cell signal to one without. The biggest battery drain on a phone is typically cell signal.
If you pulled the sim card out of the pixel and let the phones sit side by side overnight, that would be something.

dbrohrer said:
While I still think the Samsung will have slightly better standby drain, this isn't a good test. You cannot compare a phone with a cell signal to one without. The biggest battery drain on a phone is typically cell signal.
If you pulled the sim card out of the pixel and let the phones sit side by side overnight, that would be something.
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I agree, this test is not a great comparison. The Note 4 did still have cell signal as they do connect to service without a sim card, but likely it is not the same as having proper service (LTE). I was trying to get the lowest draw possible on the Pixel and managed to average 29ma in airplane mode. This is the lowest I have got yet with the device which although is decently low draw is still abysmal considering that it had no apps running and no radios active. What is even more interesting to me is that google claims that the phone has 456 hours of standby time which suggests radios active (at least cell), unless my math is wrong this works out to a standby drain of 6ma which at least on my phone seems to be completely unattainable even with radios off.
I have looked around the forums but haven't seen anyone else posting power consumption information with the regular or XL pixel so I have no idea if this is unique to my phone or just standard with the Pixel. I haven't yet factory reset the phone but that would have been next, except that I am exchanging the device due to an unrelated issue. I guess I will see how the next one stacks up in this regard.

Thought I would post an update on my findings. After getting a new device and still having issues I have an answer and partial solution to my terrible standby drain. The culprit in my case is LTE. I am on FIDO in Canada which does use Band 4 though I am not certain if that is being used in my area. Anyways if I set my preferred network type to 3g my standby drain improves dramatically as the device idles around 10-15ma in my pocket and overnight is more like 6ma which is phenomenal. As soon as I set my network back to LTE my standby drain is 70-90ma and at best 40ma overnight if I'm lucky. My cell service for 3g and LTE are both good (green in battery stats). I know LTE requires more power however I would expect that power requirement to drop significantly when connected to WIFI networks which in my case doesnt seem to matter at all. At least now my battery life is awesome as others have reported. However connecting to 3g when away from home is a bummer and it's not really practical to manually change my preferred network every time I leave or enter a WIFI area. Looking at a way to automate this switch but on Android 5+ it seems that changing these settings via app are very locked down. I would also like to point out that my previous phones never seemed to suffer from this issue which only further makes me suspect that there is an unresolved underlying issue here (maybe related to the Band 4 issues being reported?). It sure is nice to open my battery stats window now and see some horizontal line segments instead of the linear march towards zero.

SOT SOT SOT - Am I going insane, or am I not(e)?

Well at least I still have my (shady) sense of humor.
Hey guys.
2 weeks with the Note 10+, 256GB/12GB - Exynos. I keep seeing those wonderful SOT reports. 8 hours, 9 hours, 10 hours! I'm not even talking about those posting screenshots of 12-14 hours...
They all use WQHD. They all use Facebook. They even use youtube and netflix, on wi-fi and on mobile with more than 50% brightness, and they all get at worst 8 hours of Screen on time.
Little me, on the other hand, uses mostly whatsapp and text, reduce his brightness when possible, check for hungry apps all the time, yet even on Airplane mode, I barely get get to 0% with 5 hours of SOT.
What am I missing? What is the magic trick? Is it possible that I'm having some sort of a hardware failure? Bad luck?
Don't get me wrong, 5 hours of sot, compared to my dying and evil LG G4 is still amazing, but I just can't wrap my head around this difference between exactly the same devices, this huge difference.
Let there be light
and sot.

in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro

Don't worry mate, those 8,9,10 hours of SOT are for people who watch lots of Videos like YouTube etc on their device and seldom use camera or do gaming on their Phone. SOT is very subjective and differs from person to person. I get 5 to 6 hours of SOT myself and is pretty happy with it

As others said it's hard to compare, for example weak cell/wifi signal can discharge battery pretty fast even with screen off. After saying that, you should disable everything you can that you don't use. Also, forget SOT, see how much your phone discharges overnight when it's not in use. For example charge before sleep to 100%, wake up and see what's the charge after 6-8 hours of standby. If it's less than 94-92 %, then you may have rogue app than runs down your battery and finding it and fixing it may help you a lot.

Shtihi said:
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
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No, it is not

Anything over 5 hours is not that bad imo! However, i would expect that the note 10 plus should easily be hitting 6 hours minimum for the majority of users depending on there usage! I have literally only got my hands on my device today and after about 30 minutes use plus a software update it has dropped just 6%

my .2 cents , if your phone can last long enough for you to achieve what ever you want to do achieve in day and without you running behind a charger then you got yourself a keeper .
so don't worry about SOT , standby time ... use your phone to its fullest extent and enjoy it

vinumsv said:
my .2 cents , if your phone can last long enough for you to achieve what ever you want to do achieve in day and without you running behind a charger then you got yourself a keeper .
so don't worry about SOT , standby time ... use your phone to its fullest extent and enjoy it
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I can totally agree with that, but there's this little voice in my head (Well, there are plenty, but that's not our current burning issue), that's just keep telling me that it doesn't make sense that when both people use the exact same device, with almost the exact same settings, the difference will be so big...

EagleXDR said:
I can totally agree with that, but there's this little voice in my head (Well, there are plenty, but that's not our current burning issue), that's just keep telling me that it doesn't make sense that when both people use the exact same device, with almost the exact same settings, the difference will be so big...
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but main culprit would be Radios ... so are you using same mobil service provider and living same locality then we can worry if comparatively the battery is life lower.

Me too.onmy have 5 hrs max sot, but I play around 1 to 1.5 hr of Intense gaming.
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vinumsv said:
but main culprit would be Radios ... so are you using same mobil service provider and living same locality then we can worry if comparatively the battery is life lower.
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Living in a small country, compared to some people who use the same network in the same city (Maybe 5km from each other). Obviously, it's still not a purely scientific comparison, but it's something/

I used to wonder why there was a big difference between my battery performance and the ones I see on the net. Until I went to Taiwan for a vacation. My sucky battery phone then suddenly lasted the whole day. And that was with constant gps usage, constant checking, messaging, googling, etc.
I think the network strength and consistency is the biggest determinant of battery life given the same usage patterns. I live in the Philippines where the signal is not great which is probably why i get a lousy battery life compared to others.
However, the Note 10+ is giving me the best ever battery life ever. Out of all the phones I've owned, this is the only phone to actually surpass the 5 hour screen on time mark.

koppee1 said:
I used to wonder why there was a big difference between my battery performance and the ones I see on the net. Until I went to Taiwan for a vacation. My sucky battery phone then suddenly lasted the whole day. And that was with constant gps usage, constant checking, messaging, googling, etc.
I think the network strength and consistency is the biggest determinant of battery life given the same usage patterns. I live in the Philippines where the signal is not great which is probably why i get a lousy battery life compared to others.
However, the Note 10+ is giving me the best ever battery life ever. Out of all the phones I've owned, this is the only phone to actually surpass the 5 hour screen on time mark.
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Signal strength affecting battery life makes sense, I have heard that before, but I have tried going a full day with just Wi-Fi, airport mode and no sim installed, and I got just the same results, so I guess that in my case, it's not related (sadly).

During my normal daily use, at the end of day I end with SOT of 3 to 5 hrs and 65-45% battery left. So absolutely I can get 8-10 hrs and this is with highest screen resolution, 50% brightness, GPS, BT, NFC, AOD and Edge screen on. You may have rogue apps running in the background and using your battery, did you check under settings/device care/ battery what is using your power, even if it's not very accurate, could give you some hints.

I check it constantly, no rogue apps whatsoever. I even did a factory reset, installing only whatsapp and disabling some Samsung apps, yet I still can't reach more than 5 hours of SOT, in almost "lab clean" conditions. Honestly, it's driving me mad.

How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).

pete4k said:
How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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Hmm... I believe I lost 5% last night. I'll check back tomorrow morning for a more accurate answer.

Shtihi said:
in the same boat as you are my friend.. note 10 + exynos is a ****ter..
missing my old p30 pro
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pete4k said:
How much do you loose overnight, when phone is not used at all. It should be no more than 0.5 to 1% per hr. Also force stop whatsup for few hours, maybe is searching and updating too often. I know what you mean, I had a phone couple yrs ago, wouldn't last whole day even if not used, drove me crazy until found out I changed some obscure setting in wifi before and forgot about it, once I reversed that setting phone went back to normal 0.5% per hour (it was discharging 10% per hour even not used before fix).
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Wtf I lose almost 10% on aod overnight
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The Exynos SoC is garbage.
I learned the hard way with the Galaxy S10+. I thought to myself: "I'll buy the Exynos version so I can have an unlocked bootloader and enjoy custom ROM's and all the good stuff!" Little did I know, it's tough to enjoy the good stuff with such crap battery life.
Snapdragon users of the S10+ were reporting amazing battery life, meanwhile I couldn't get 4 hours of SoT with very careful use. I decided not to make the same error with the Note 10+ and ordered it with a Snapdragon SoC. I can happily report 7-8 hours of SoT and it was only getting better. I'm back on the OnePlus 7 Pro because I may return the Note 10+ for the Galaxy Fold, but I am leaning towards keeping it because the camera is so damned good.
Either way, never buy an Exynos phone. I enjoyed my S8+ with the Exynos chipset, but made a grave error with the S10+. Avoid at all costs if you can. If you need the radio bands that only the Exynos version has - look into getting a battery case because you'll need it.
Good luck Exynos users

[HELP] Note10+ bad screen on time

As the title says... is there something wrong with my battery? I got abysmal SOT of 4hr35min on mobile/cellular data only (No WiFi). Bluetooth OFF, WQHD+, location OFF, dark mode OFF, brigtness 40% or less, Samsung Cloud, Google Photos & Google One back up & sync - all OFF,. Bixby home, bixby wake up, literally everything bixby related OFF. Wake to lift OFF, smart stay OFF. Optimized battery settings, exceptions to optimize made on gmail, whatsapp, instagram. Everything else on optimization. AoD - always on, dynamic background on home screen - yes.
Exynos
Also worth noting - after fully charging the phone, I went from 100% to 98% in like 3 minutes. I also went from 5% to 0% in a couple of minutes.
Is there something wrong with my battery? Surely 4 hrs 35min shouldn't be a norm, not even on cellular data only.

I am also having a same screen on time. My screen resolution is set to wqhd+ always, is that the reason for this? I have heard normally other guys are getting a 6 hours SOT.

Same here, hope they will fix it in one UI 2.0

Exynos or snapdragon variant ?
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Exynos has worse battery life.

I also have Exynos, but 4hr and 35mins on mobile data? Are you kiddin me? That surely isn't right...
Wish someone else could chip in with maybe some info... is the battery even right or should I seek replacement lol

Exynos device from my sister, bone stock. Nothing debloated or what so ever.

furiouszagreb said:
I also have Exynos, but 4hr and 35mins on mobile data? Are you kiddin me? That surely isn't right...
Wish someone else could chip in with maybe some info... is the battery even right or should I seek replacement lol
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If the battery consumption is so high using cellular data and not with wifi, it is probably due to signal strenght, when the phone seeks the better signal, depending on your network prefernces, switches between 2g/3g/4g lte, thus using more battery, where I live, there is always high fluctuation in signal strenght, with my note 8, the batt drained faster than normal because of this, in my case I found that locking in 3g gave me better batt life, so, with my note10+ I just knew what to do, and now my batt life is good, 7~8 hrs SOT, and little more than 20hrs idle, btw, there are already some posts regarding this topic, there you will find many useful tips/advices

winol said:
If the battery consumption is so high using cellular data and not with wifi, it is probably due to signal strenght, when the phone seeks the better signal, depending on your network prefernces, switches between 2g/3g/4g lte, thus using more battery, where I live, there is always high fluctuation in signal strenght, with my note 8, the batt drained faster than normal because of this, in my case I found that locking in 3g gave me better batt life, so, with my note10+ I just knew what to do, and now my batt life is good, 7~8 hrs SOT, and little more than 20hrs idle, btw, there are already some posts regarding this topic, there you will find many useful tips/advices
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Could you please link me to these posts and threads so I can check?
Thanks

I keep performance mode on, 4g on all the time, max resolution and use it a lot during the day as I am a heavy user. I bought the note last week and I have managed to have minimum 7 hours screen on time which for me is fantastic as none of my previous phones could handle me that long. The max i got on the note 10+ is around 10 hours Screen on time. My version however is not the Exynos one but the Snapdragon and usually the Snapdragon proccesor manages the battery better than the Exynos one even if this year they are really close

Tediberdyna said:
I keep performance mode on, 4g on all the time, max resolution and use it a lot during the day as I am a heavy user. I bought the note last week and I have managed to have minimum 7 hours screen on time which for me is fantastic as none of my previous phones could handle me that long. The max i got on the note 10+ is around 10 hours Screen on time. My version however is not the Exynos one but the Snapdragon and usually the Snapdragon proccesor manages the battery better than the Exynos one even if this year they are really close
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Everybody knows that the Samsung devices with SD are wayyyy better on battery than the exynos ones. The most sot which my sister was able to produce, was around 7h. Good enough for a day, but not great for that much €. My 400€ K20Pro clocks in at around 10h...

t0m2k said:
Everybody knows that the Samsung devices with SD are wayyyy better on battery than the exynos ones. The most sot which my sister was able to produce, was around 7h. Good enough for a day, but not great for that much €. My 400€ K20Pro clocks in at around 10h...
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Yeah but it makes no sense to compare.
And old nokia mobile phone battery will last a week... so what

t0m2k said:
Everybody knows that the Samsung devices with SD are wayyyy better on battery than the exynos ones. The most sot which my sister was able to produce, was around 7h. Good enough for a day, but not great for that much €. My 400€ K20Pro clocks in at around 10h...
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What? Seriously? What is the point? You trying to convince people here that they should be better having a k20pro? LOL, and LOL

I have also the same issue... with full usage the phone barely get to 6hr of battery,, and the note 9 with SD with the same usage go to 1 day and 30% to the next day..

4.5 hrs is normal i guess. i get 5 hrs on wifi
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UPDATE!
First of all, I did a factory reset. Then, I did 100% do 0% and then charged the phone while OFF to 100% again and other time I did 100% to 0% and charged it while turning it on after couple %.
I also disabled EVERYTHING Bixby related AND I disabled Facebook running in the background.
The result are in, aaaaaaand.....
MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT!
I am now getting at least 7hrs 30mins with 70%/30% wifi/mobile data usage.
On WiFi Only, I can now get EASILY 9 hours SoT
See screenshots - #1 & #2 showing 7hrs 30mins wifi/mobile data. Screenshot #3 WiFi only, 8hrs 10mins WITH 22% battery to spare! So, easily 9 hrs SoT...

Battery Life 0500 - 2130 (14.5hr) SOT

Battery smart charging on all night get up at 5am come home from the hospital at 2130. 30% remaining... So why is this important you ask?
Hospital walls are thick... All other phones ping the towers all day long and battery is dead by 1500.
1. Smart charging on
2. VoWifi on
3. 5G on
4. Volte on
5. Smart 5G on
6. Dual channel data on
7. Connected to WiFi
8. BT on
9. FHD
10. 120hz
This battery is great with heavy to moderate use. Don't watch porn at work and you'll be fine.

What resolution and refresh rate you have?

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What resolution and refresh rate you have?
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Based on the image, they're (probably mistakenly) running at FHD, but if it's any consolation the difference in battery drain between FHD and QHD is pretty negligible.

I have mine or FHD and 60hz while I'm working, and up it to QHD and 120hz in my free time.
A longer battery life it more important to me that reading a news article in QHD, but I like that I have the choice to up it when I want that extra detail

Atlantian said:
Battery smart charging on all night get up at 5am come home from the hospital at 2130. 30% remaining... So why is this important you ask?
Hospital walls are thick... All other phones ping the towers all day long and battery is dead by 1500.
1. Smart charging on
2. VoWifi on
3. 5G on
4. Volte on
5. Smart 5G on
6. Dual channel data on
7. Connected to WiFi
8. BT on
9. FHD
10. 120hz
This battery is great with heavy to moderate use. Don't watch porn at work and you'll be fine.
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If you could, show your app list and hardware list too, gives everyone an indication of what you used.
Also i can't see the 14.5 SOT in the pic shown.
I've got some shots up on the SOT thread in the review section, 9 hours 25 mins over 2 days.

Atlantian said:
Battery smart charging on all night get up at 5am come home from the hospital at 2130. 30% remaining... So why is this important you ask?
Hospital walls are thick... All other phones ping the towers all day long and battery is dead by 1500.
1. Smart charging on
2. VoWifi on
3. 5G on
4. Volte on
5. Smart 5G on
6. Dual channel data on
7. Connected to WiFi
8. BT on
9. FHD
10. 120hz
This battery is great with heavy to moderate use. Don't watch porn at work and you'll be fine.
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If you have wifi on battery will be fine for any phone no? Even in hospitals with thick walls.
If I'm not mistaken with wifi on the phone is not pinging all day long for reception is it?

Pr20 said:
If you have wifi on battery will be fine for any phone no? Even in hospitals with thick walls.
If I'm not mistaken with wifi on the phone is not pinging all day long for reception is it?
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Yes, you may be right but the wifi drops off too and it begins looking again

With my old Nokia smartphone I once reach 28 hours of SOT
I don't see wheres the point sharing 'who has the bigger d***'

So basically the title of this thread is misleading. It isn't SOT it is more like standby time? I've never had a phone that if you laid it down and didn't do anything with it that you didn't get great standby time ?

Neil_Armstrong_ said:
With my old Nokia smartphone I once reach 28 hours of SOT
I don't see wheres the point sharing 'who has the bigger d***'
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The point is to see what is possible, if I'm getting 10 and you're getting 5 but our habits are the same then there's a question that needs answering, which is why we post these things.
Tbh though, I find it funny when someone posts a post like yours, it's usually a person who has nothing to show off

dladz said:
The point is to see what is possible, if I'm getting 10 and you're getting 5 but our habits are the same then there's a question that needs answering, which is why we post these things.
Tbh though, I find it funny when someone posts a post like yours, it's usually a person who has nothing to show off
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I prefer to show interesting things rather than SOT which is a ridiculous indicator

Neil_Armstrong_ said:
I prefer to show interesting things rather than SOT which is a ridiculous indicator
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It's quite an important factor. I used my phone for work purposes and it's comforting knowing that I can get a full days use out of it.
And old saying "if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"

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I prefer to show interesting things rather than SOT which is a ridiculous indicator
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I see. So what are your referring to?

dladz said:
The point is to see what is possible, if I'm getting 10 and you're getting 5 but our habits are the same then there's a question that needs answering, which is why we post these things.
Tbh though, I find it funny when someone posts a post like yours, it's usually a person who has nothing to show off
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It's more like SOT but yeah I agree it could be misleading. Although, I sat with my Covid 19 patient on a ventilator for about 10 hours today using my phone regularly with interruption in use. Soooo, it's not a 100% SOT# but it's definitely high usage SOT

Neil_Armstrong_ said:
With my old Nokia smartphone I once reach 28 hours of SOT
I don't see wheres the point sharing 'who has the bigger d***'
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I was just putting it out there. Not a d*ck contest. So people have an idea

Question Network standby battery drain exceeding 29% always P6P. Why?

As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.

skipabeat123 said:
As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.
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I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8% (24 hours)
29% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
The weaker the signal, the harder your phone will try to connect, meaning it will use more power.
Of course this shouldn't happen, even with a bad connection. ~30% battery drain in 24 hours because of STANDBY drain is a joke and terrible.

Morgrain said:
I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8%
27% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
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At work place I have 5g connection and at home it says 4g. The connection here is good. I tried disabling 5g but the outcome as always the same. Insanely high battery drain by network standby.

I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA

Opensystem said:
I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA
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Thanks for the reply. I do not care about the consumption during the night. I work +10h and I cannot rely on this device to get me through the day.

Only 29%?? *Cries*

craznazn said:
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Jeeesus. Part of me wonders if Google knew about this stuff and that's why they jammed a 5000mah battery in this thing. I've been debating dropping the 120hz screen down to 60hz to help offset this stuff, but unfortunately after using it, I'm spoiled. Plus there's discussion that there's problems with the implementation of 60hz frequency on top of it.
Really hoping custom kernels and roms can help eventually.

Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Az Biker said:
Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community

craznazn said:
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Seems to be about what i got. I just realized it was 39% on my last charge cycle.
I was using dual sim though, one physical and one e-sim. The physical one is from my old country as i still only activate it for 2fa only (no roaming, no call, no nothing) and the e-sim is local where i live now (europe).
Im going to try and disable the physical sim when i sleep tonight, and see where it goes in the morning when i wake up. Currently i have 54% charge left, and mobile network standby is using 26% already. Geez. Im working from home so its pretty much all wifi.

Morgrain said:
Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Yes we are talking about standby network battery consumption. Imagine a phone for 999€ where standby network drain sucks 3 times more juice as the display. Pixel 6 Pro.

Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.

Morgrain said:
Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.

Az Biker said:
Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.
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Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?

kheltek said:
Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?
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Phone auto toggles from 5g to LTE.

Turn off "Adaptive Connectivity" in settings, network & internet

Just read this thread and check my network standby an it was 15% with 70% charge left on the phone.

Az Biker said:
Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.
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How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.

skipabeat123 said:
How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.
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Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
Not to mention these are highly sophisticated, intricately made, and technology packed very compact items. There are bound to be some that get past the QA process.

Az Biker said:
Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
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That's all irrelevant. I've been testing my pixel for a day in safe mode and the result was absolutely the same. The network standby was not dropping below 35%. I asked other users to test this too and they had it under 4%.
As I wrote this phone is already a replacement. It seems to be a lottery.