My opinion is that the bluetooth audio quality on the HTC Desire is terrible!
When playing music, in most of the tracks I hear clicking/crackling noise when some frequency/dB/something else is reached.
To illustrate what I mean, I have uploaded an audio fragment in which you can hear a similar noise.
Download fragment (MP3) Warning! it's drum n bass
You can hear the sound at the very beginning and at around 6 seconds (and at the end). As if a tweeter (speaker for higher frequencies) get overloaded.
I don't know if it is related to the phone's hardware, (radio) firmware or the Android OS. I've tried different music players, radio firmwares and custom roms. I also enabled an equalizer for bt audio using DSPManager. Unfortunately, nothing helped
edit: Using current versions of DeFoST or OpenDesire (and maybe others), the bt sound quality is how it should be! Fixed for me, but I hope an update from HTC will do the same.
Btw, this crackling/clicking is not only related to the HTC Desire, I have heard it on more (non-android) phones that were connected to my bt audio setup (in car). Unfortunately I haven't been able to test other Android phones, but my old Nokia N82 and SE K800i always sounded clear.
My guess is that it's just a non-controllable system setting of Android to solve the problem, but I don't know where (config/settings files?) to search for BT audio settings.
Any ideas?
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
@ngel said:
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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I'm running Defrost rom now and the sound quality is perfect, how it should be! So, it's not related to the audio device, or the default settings/drivers of the Desire are "too good" for my audio device (Pioneer BT unit @ car audio), which I think is not the case, since I also had this noise on my Logitech Pure-Fi.
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That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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Actually I recently owned this headsert but the quality of the sound was still terrible. I thought it was a problem with the headset at first, but that is not the case. I returned it and bought a Jabra BT3030 and the problem still persists. Anyone know if this is actually a problem with the phone or is it software related? I can add that I don't hear these noises when streaming audio through e.g. the youtube app, only mp3 and it doesn't matter which player I use (I've tried loads).
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
It is software related. Using current DeFroST or OpenDesire roms (and maybe others), bluetooth audio is great
CONTACTMC said:
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
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well if it would've been device fault you'd think that I'd hear that noise through youtube streams as well.
But yeah as tutti-frutti stated it might be a software issue, which points me towards a root. But since I'd rather not root atm, anyone knows any other solution?
Might try a hard reset first and hope for the best. I will get back to you on that .
Thank you so much for describing my problem!!
I am currently downloading OpenDesire. Just in case that it does not work, where do i find DeFost??? I can't find it on the Market.
Thanks again!
I have Samsung Epic 4g.
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
harish.awe said:
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
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For me, it is an issue with my car, not headphones.
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Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
Okay, update: Tested the new Gingerbread AOSP and still having these stops at 2-3 minutes. Very strange...
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
Chapell said:
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
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You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Ik Desire said:
You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Thanks, I'll look into it. But if that's the problem, it would affect music playback with wired headphones too, isn't it?
And with Sense ROMs I have the overloaded tweeter-like problem, but no stutters. With non-Sense ROMs I have beautiful audio quality but music stops for a second randomly.
Update: Checked Aura ROM with sdfix, no problem with stuttering, but still the overloaded high-frequency problem. Meanwhile I checked that this SD fix is available only for Sense ROMs because it's HTC's hacking, the AOSP versions have no SD problems.
Oh, good lord! I was nearly to believe that I'm some sort of audiophile!
I'm using Plantronics 903 with my Desire and sound quality is just OK (I'm using SENSE ROM, will try OpenDesire in a bit). However, I cannot say I was expecting more.
What funny is happened today: I paired my 903 with PC today - sound quality was nearly same like my Desire, then I noticed someting in Bluetooth Setting Panel of PC. There was a combo box which labeled as "Audio Quality" and it was at the "Low" setting. I switched it "High Quality" and reconnected the device and voila! The sound has been thousands of times better!
Now I'm wondering if such a switch is also available in Desire? Maybe not obvious, but a Kernel variable perhaps? Damn that I don't know a sh** about programming these devices :'(
EDIT : Funny - I think that setting was not of PC's, but Headset's! It's quite well right now! And I didn't even try OpenDesire yet!
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A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
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I have similar sound issues on non-sense roms. I believe it's mostly to do with range is just not quite as good as with sense based roms. I haven't had time to really figure out why yet.
Okay, so they replaced my Nokia BH-504 headset with a new one, still the same issue with Desire Sense ROMs but Legend Sense is still good. So it's not an issue with the headset (well, could be a general incompatibility problem, but I don't think so) Will check my laptop and a Gingerbread ROM on the Desire. Okay, conclusion after further tests with the replaced headset:
with Desire Sense ROMs: horrible quality in the high frequencies with every MP3.
with Desire non-Sense ROMs (OpenDesire, Gingerbred, etc): Good quality, but music play stops for a secons every 1-2 minutes.
with HP TouchSmart TM2 notebook: Quality problem AND music sutter BOTH
with HTC Legend original Froyo ROM: No problem
with Sony Ericsson X8: No problem
with HTC Touch HD: Quality problem
The headset has been replaced with a new one, same errors occur.
I have no idea what's wrong. I can't believe 2 phone's and a notebook's Bluetooth chip is faulty. So this could be an incompatiblity, hooray for great Bluetooth standard specification I should try a Nokia BH-905 and a Sennheiser MM400, will try them after buy (in the store!) and hand them immediately back if there will be a problem with them
Chapell, I have the same problem as you, with the Nokia BH-504 headset. So far the headset works great with the stock ROM, LeeDroid ROMs or just about any Froyo ROM. Gingerbread-based ROMs or Cyanogen nightlies, or any of the AdamG's Oxygen ROMS, on the other hand, they all have the same issue - every 90 seconds or so there is a glitch, the audio stream skips for half a second or so - very, very annoying keeps you from getting in the mood.
My observations: it is not SD card related, youtube video with the audio part streamd through the bluetooth headset also skips (also tried an SD read-ahead zip patch - no change); also, the glitch doesn't manifest using wired headphones; it has nothing to do with CPU spikes (the music player and the BT connection were the only open applications after a fresh ROM install); it has nothing to do with WiFi being on or off; it has nothing to do with 3G/2G network being active or not, or the GPS; using a different radio also doesn't help (scenario - radio X used with N.S.A. ROM -> no glitch; the same radio used with Oxygen 2.0 RC7 -> glitch)...
My guess - as noobish as it may be - is that this issue is related to some kind of buffering in the streaming process - I compared a few bluetooth configuration files in various ROMs, but couldn't figure any setting related to buffering or such.
If anyone could help, I would be very grateful!
Thanks for the info. If I understand correctly, you had no problems with BH-504 using Sense ROMs. So no high frequency distortion, nothing. This means that my phone is definetly faulty
However it seems the non-Sense skips are not unique for me. Strange, no one uses a BT headset with non-Sense ROMs or it could be a problem only with the BH-504?
Hi, is there any possible way to increase sound quality over bleutooth? I always stream music from deezer to my car stereo over bluetooth, but on MI9SE sound is too flat and little bit buzzy...
tried to change codec and others in developer set. but it does not work.
xsrvts said:
Hi, is there any possible way to increase sound quality over bleutooth? I always stream music from deezer to my car stereo over bluetooth, but on MI9SE sound is too flat and little bit buzzy...
tried to change codec and others in developer set. but it does not work.
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I am using it and it's fine. Music gets transmitted digitally via bluetooth, so either your car bt adapter is old or broken. I am using different bt devices with sbc and apt-x and all work fine. Xiaomi.eu weekly rom
so maybe my device have some bug, because when i connect honor 10 or galaxy s9 sound is rich and clear...
i am using lastest xiaomi.eu stable rom and car is Fiat 500X with built-in nav...
I have an issue with a new pair of bluetooth headphones i have just purchased. Specifically media playback sound quality. It is utterly woeful, with distortion, hiss, and cackles/pops continually over any media player or videos. Sound quality on calls is fine. I know that the headphones work, as i have used them on other devices and they function fine. My S9 is currently up to date.
I initially though that it was something to do with volume limiter as the weird thing is occasionally when they immediately connect and i play some music they work fine, then the quality drops as soon as the limiter notice pops up. I have checked though and the limiter is actually turned off. Turning it back on doesn't solve the issue either. I've gone so far as to wipe the whole cache partition and nuke all the caches, but that hasn't helped either.
Is there a known issue that I am unaware of ? Hopefully with a resolution, or other obvious steps i could try that people could recommend, as I am out of ideas now.
Spin_Dr_Wolf said:
I have an issue with a new pair of bluetooth headphones i have just purchased. Specifically media playback sound quality. It is utterly woeful, with distortion, hiss, and cackles/pops continually over any media player or videos. Sound quality on calls is fine. I know that the headphones work, as i have used them on other devices and they function fine. My S9 is currently up to date.
I initially though that it was something to do with volume limiter as the weird thing is occasionally when they immediately connect and i play some music they work fine, then the quality drops as soon as the limiter notice pops up. I have checked though and the limiter is actually turned off. Turning it back on doesn't solve the issue either. I've gone so far as to wipe the whole cache partition and nuke all the caches, but that hasn't helped either.
Is there a known issue that I am unaware of ? Hopefully with a resolution, or other obvious steps i could try that people could recommend, as I am out of ideas now.
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i flip back and forth between a few different BT headsets and never have this issue and have also used the same headsets on several devices in my bag-o-tricks. The phone does use a DAC for music where its pretty raw for the phone convo, which could explain why calls are ok, but music isnt. Is this your only pair of BT headphones? Do you know anyone who will help you test them on another phone?
Spin_Dr_Wolf said:
I have an issue with a new pair of bluetooth headphones i have just purchased. Specifically media playback sound quality. It is utterly woeful, with distortion, hiss, and cackles/pops continually over any media player or videos. Sound quality on calls is fine. I know that the headphones work, as i have used them on other devices and they function fine. My S9 is currently up to date.
I initially though that it was something to do with volume limiter as the weird thing is occasionally when they immediately connect and i play some music they work fine, then the quality drops as soon as the limiter notice pops up. I have checked though and the limiter is actually turned off. Turning it back on doesn't solve the issue either. I've gone so far as to wipe the whole cache partition and nuke all the caches, but that hasn't helped either.
Is there a known issue that I am unaware of ? Hopefully with a resolution, or other obvious steps i could try that people could recommend, as I am out of ideas now.
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I have that issue too.
youdoofus said:
i flip back and forth between a few different BT headsets and never have this issue and have also used the same headsets on several devices in my bag-o-tricks. The phone does use a DAC for music where its pretty raw for the phone convo, which could explain why calls are ok, but music isnt. Is this your only pair of BT headphones? Do you know anyone who will help you test them on another phone?
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I do actually have another pair of bluetooth headphones i use for my PC, i will try them with the phone tonight, though I am sure that the headphones themselves are fine. They work with my watch without any issues.
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I have that issue too.
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I have experimented a bit more, and think that this is a codec issue. If I enable the developer menu, and switch to another codec (not the SDC if defaults to) them restart the headset they work fine. Problem is that it always defaults back to SDC whenever the headphones are disconnected for a period of time. I can't see how to force the use of another codec, both AAC and LDAC for example work absolutely fine with the headset. Though this is quite a long process just to get the headphones to work each and every time i want to use them.
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I do actually have another pair of bluetooth headphones i use for my PC, i will try them with the phone tonight, though I am sure that the headphones themselves are fine. They work with my watch without any issues.
I have experimented a bit more, and think that this is a codec issue. If I enable the developer menu, and switch to another codec (not the SDC if defaults to) them restart the headset they work fine. Problem is that it always defaults back to SDC whenever the headphones are disconnected for a period of time. I can't see how to force the use of another codec, both AAC and LDAC for example work absolutely fine with the headset. Though this is quite a long process just to get the headphones to work each and every time i want to use them.
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if im not mistaken, the default codec is controlled by the stack overflow. what version of android are you using?
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if im not mistaken, the default codec is controlled by the stack overflow. what version of android are you using?
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From the software information screen...
Android Version : 9
Baseband Version : G960FXXU6CSG4
Kernal Version : 4.9.59-16381285
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From the software information screen...
Android Version : 9
Baseband Version : G960FXXU6CSG4
Kernal Version : 4.9.59-16381285
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youre on the U6 bootloader, when did you last update and when did the bt sound issue start?
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youre on the U6 bootloader, when did you last update and when did the bt sound issue start?
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I last updated 02nd August 2019. I have just checked again, and apparently running the latest version available OTA.
I couldn't tell you when the bluetooth sound issue started, as this is the first time in a long time i have connected any bluetooth headphones to my phone. I think previously connected the other headphones i have yet to check again, but am not certain.
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I last updated 02nd August 2019. I have just checked again, and apparently running the latest version available OTA.
I couldn't tell you when the bluetooth sound issue started, as this is the first time in a long time i have connected any bluetooth headphones to my phone. I think previously connected the other headphones i have yet to check again, but am not certain.
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gotcha. i also understand youre probably at work like many of us poor schmucks such as myself, which would make it kinda hard to test things out right this moment. But do any of your coworkers have a BT speaker you can connect to to try to replicate the issue there as well? Im mainly trying to eliminate variables at this point. You might try flashing the most current Odin files with the "HOME_CSC" as to not erase your user data. Itll over-write the code for the OS and so forth and nuke any software issues that might be causing this
I've now tested another set of bluetooth headphones and they work absolutely fine, they default into the aptX codec. Is that determined by what the device primarily works with ?
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I've now tested another set of bluetooth headphones and they work absolutely fine, they default into the aptX codec. Is that determined by what the device primarily works with ?
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yes, the codec is changed by the DAC within the phone to be the best suited to whatever device its connecting to. What kind of headphones are you using that get the garbage sound? I have a pair of Tozo T10's, which are the off-brand individual ear buds from amazon for $50 and they sound very good. I also have a pair of maxsonic bluetooth buds which cost $17 that are connected to each other by a wire and they sound equally as good.