My opinion is that the bluetooth audio quality on the HTC Desire is terrible!
When playing music, in most of the tracks I hear clicking/crackling noise when some frequency/dB/something else is reached.
To illustrate what I mean, I have uploaded an audio fragment in which you can hear a similar noise.
Download fragment (MP3) Warning! it's drum n bass
You can hear the sound at the very beginning and at around 6 seconds (and at the end). As if a tweeter (speaker for higher frequencies) get overloaded.
I don't know if it is related to the phone's hardware, (radio) firmware or the Android OS. I've tried different music players, radio firmwares and custom roms. I also enabled an equalizer for bt audio using DSPManager. Unfortunately, nothing helped
edit: Using current versions of DeFoST or OpenDesire (and maybe others), the bt sound quality is how it should be! Fixed for me, but I hope an update from HTC will do the same.
Btw, this crackling/clicking is not only related to the HTC Desire, I have heard it on more (non-android) phones that were connected to my bt audio setup (in car). Unfortunately I haven't been able to test other Android phones, but my old Nokia N82 and SE K800i always sounded clear.
My guess is that it's just a non-controllable system setting of Android to solve the problem, but I don't know where (config/settings files?) to search for BT audio settings.
Any ideas?
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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I'm running Defrost rom now and the sound quality is perfect, how it should be! So, it's not related to the audio device, or the default settings/drivers of the Desire are "too good" for my audio device (Pioneer BT unit @ car audio), which I think is not the case, since I also had this noise on my Logitech Pure-Fi.
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That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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Actually I recently owned this headsert but the quality of the sound was still terrible. I thought it was a problem with the headset at first, but that is not the case. I returned it and bought a Jabra BT3030 and the problem still persists. Anyone know if this is actually a problem with the phone or is it software related? I can add that I don't hear these noises when streaming audio through e.g. the youtube app, only mp3 and it doesn't matter which player I use (I've tried loads).
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
It is software related. Using current DeFroST or OpenDesire roms (and maybe others), bluetooth audio is great
CONTACTMC said:
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
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well if it would've been device fault you'd think that I'd hear that noise through youtube streams as well.
But yeah as tutti-frutti stated it might be a software issue, which points me towards a root. But since I'd rather not root atm, anyone knows any other solution?
Might try a hard reset first and hope for the best. I will get back to you on that .
Thank you so much for describing my problem!!
I am currently downloading OpenDesire. Just in case that it does not work, where do i find DeFost??? I can't find it on the Market.
Thanks again!
I have Samsung Epic 4g.
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
harish.awe said:
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
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For me, it is an issue with my car, not headphones.
A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
Okay, update: Tested the new Gingerbread AOSP and still having these stops at 2-3 minutes. Very strange...
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
Chapell said:
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
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You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Ik Desire said:
You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Thanks, I'll look into it. But if that's the problem, it would affect music playback with wired headphones too, isn't it?
And with Sense ROMs I have the overloaded tweeter-like problem, but no stutters. With non-Sense ROMs I have beautiful audio quality but music stops for a second randomly.
Update: Checked Aura ROM with sdfix, no problem with stuttering, but still the overloaded high-frequency problem. Meanwhile I checked that this SD fix is available only for Sense ROMs because it's HTC's hacking, the AOSP versions have no SD problems.
Oh, good lord! I was nearly to believe that I'm some sort of audiophile!
I'm using Plantronics 903 with my Desire and sound quality is just OK (I'm using SENSE ROM, will try OpenDesire in a bit). However, I cannot say I was expecting more.
What funny is happened today: I paired my 903 with PC today - sound quality was nearly same like my Desire, then I noticed someting in Bluetooth Setting Panel of PC. There was a combo box which labeled as "Audio Quality" and it was at the "Low" setting. I switched it "High Quality" and reconnected the device and voila! The sound has been thousands of times better!
Now I'm wondering if such a switch is also available in Desire? Maybe not obvious, but a Kernel variable perhaps? Damn that I don't know a sh** about programming these devices :'(
EDIT : Funny - I think that setting was not of PC's, but Headset's! It's quite well right now! And I didn't even try OpenDesire yet!
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A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
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I have similar sound issues on non-sense roms. I believe it's mostly to do with range is just not quite as good as with sense based roms. I haven't had time to really figure out why yet.
Okay, so they replaced my Nokia BH-504 headset with a new one, still the same issue with Desire Sense ROMs but Legend Sense is still good. So it's not an issue with the headset (well, could be a general incompatibility problem, but I don't think so) Will check my laptop and a Gingerbread ROM on the Desire. Okay, conclusion after further tests with the replaced headset:
with Desire Sense ROMs: horrible quality in the high frequencies with every MP3.
with Desire non-Sense ROMs (OpenDesire, Gingerbred, etc): Good quality, but music play stops for a secons every 1-2 minutes.
with HP TouchSmart TM2 notebook: Quality problem AND music sutter BOTH
with HTC Legend original Froyo ROM: No problem
with Sony Ericsson X8: No problem
with HTC Touch HD: Quality problem
The headset has been replaced with a new one, same errors occur.
I have no idea what's wrong. I can't believe 2 phone's and a notebook's Bluetooth chip is faulty. So this could be an incompatiblity, hooray for great Bluetooth standard specification I should try a Nokia BH-905 and a Sennheiser MM400, will try them after buy (in the store!) and hand them immediately back if there will be a problem with them
Chapell, I have the same problem as you, with the Nokia BH-504 headset. So far the headset works great with the stock ROM, LeeDroid ROMs or just about any Froyo ROM. Gingerbread-based ROMs or Cyanogen nightlies, or any of the AdamG's Oxygen ROMS, on the other hand, they all have the same issue - every 90 seconds or so there is a glitch, the audio stream skips for half a second or so - very, very annoying keeps you from getting in the mood.
My observations: it is not SD card related, youtube video with the audio part streamd through the bluetooth headset also skips (also tried an SD read-ahead zip patch - no change); also, the glitch doesn't manifest using wired headphones; it has nothing to do with CPU spikes (the music player and the BT connection were the only open applications after a fresh ROM install); it has nothing to do with WiFi being on or off; it has nothing to do with 3G/2G network being active or not, or the GPS; using a different radio also doesn't help (scenario - radio X used with N.S.A. ROM -> no glitch; the same radio used with Oxygen 2.0 RC7 -> glitch)...
My guess - as noobish as it may be - is that this issue is related to some kind of buffering in the streaming process - I compared a few bluetooth configuration files in various ROMs, but couldn't figure any setting related to buffering or such.
If anyone could help, I would be very grateful!
Thanks for the info. If I understand correctly, you had no problems with BH-504 using Sense ROMs. So no high frequency distortion, nothing. This means that my phone is definetly faulty
However it seems the non-Sense skips are not unique for me. Strange, no one uses a BT headset with non-Sense ROMs or it could be a problem only with the BH-504?
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Just got them today from eBay.
I paired it with my Touch HD and of course I wanted to try how the music works. And.... I AM SO DISSAPOINTED! Maybe I do something wrong or I need to configure my Touch HD somehow but the music quality is totally crappy! It sounds like music through standard mono Bluetooth headset instead stereo stream music...
Please help me because I am out of ideas and if THIS is great sound quality then I don't know what people have compared it to....
The sound is with typical glitches in the back, unclear with buzz, like with Bluetooth phone conversation. I was expecting clean stereo sound (at least I thought that hat's what A2DP stands for).
Stereo is barely recognizable - it is more like double mono;(
I love sound on my Creative EP630 - it is crystal clear - just brilliant sound quality. I even read one review when someone claimed to be as good as with EP 630. NOT in my case;(
With S9HD it is just pain for my ears!;(
And I can't even use AudioBooster with this???
No I just can't believe that I have configured it well.
Please someone help me what I am doing wrong....
ROM : Dutty HD 2.3 Extreme
Radio:1.09.25.14
Use A2DP bluetooth profile to connect, instead of plain handsfree.
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Use A2DP bluetooth profile to connect, instead of plain handsfree.
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could you explain in like step-by-step how to do it? ? because i don't know how to connect through a2dp profile in touch hd...
thanks
Might also be worth changing bluetooth settings via Advanced Configuration;
make sure Bitpool is set to very high. I've been using my Blueant X5 headphones for years and was disappointed when I first paired it with my Diamond, but found the sound greatly improved with a little tweaking around.
As the title says, I get some noise when i listen to music with my SE W600 Bluetooth headset, but only in Sense roms (and desire HD roms too) and I have tried with two different Desire phones.
At techradar they have noticed something like this too:
www [.] techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-desire-679515/review?artc_pg=8
However, there is a problem with the Bluetooth side of things, which worries us slightly. When using the new Jabra Clipper Bluetooth device (which allows you to use your own headphones wirelessly) the sound stuttered when using the music application.
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So I wanted to hear if some one can make a fix for this or if anyone else have experienced this too.
I should say that this isn't that noticable but enought that I get annoyed when listening to music, and was forced to change to vanilla froyo.
Moved to Q&A as not development.
Since I got this phone back in may I have had a constant issue with crappy sound quality when using bluetooth. I connect it to my car stereo or a bt headset and I get either low radio quality sound or normal sound quality with a static hiss or bump every so often. The problem is persistent through pandora and last.fm. My laptop can stream bt to both of my audio devices perfectly fine.
I have tried several different roms (pre RC cyan, to RC cyan, skyraider 2.5 vanille, stock 2.2, and currently skyraider 3.3.2 sense).
Does anyone have a solution to this?
Thanks
First thing I would try as trouble shooting is disable wifi when you use your bluetooth products.
Weather you see improvement our not, the second thing I would look at is all of my market apps to see if they are wifi or bluetooth apps. Disable/Uninstall suspect apps.
This may not be the solution, but it's where I would start in hopes of a simple solution.
I should have mentioned in my op that I had disabled wifi already.
I disabled all my apps except pandora. This did not fix it. Good idea though.
Anyone to recommend a good Bluetooth headset, a set with music controls 3.5mm jack for your own earphones and a display that would display the id3 tags or file name. Of course be able to answer calls.
I'm using a Nokia one at the moment but its not very responsive, dunno if its because of the old Bluetooth 1.0 compatibility.
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Sony MW600.
Thanks for the recommendation, so I bought a set after reading positive reviews. Connection was easy and very quick and responsive. But one fault is that the phone itself starts ringing on incoming calls the and some signals through the headset. Weird doesn't happen on my old slow unresponsive BT headset (Nokia) at least the phone didn't ring just signals through the headset bit embarrassing when your phone goes off and you answer on a BT headset.
Any settings that could fix this?
I have resetted BT pairing and the headset but still same.
Anybody use this with wildfire?
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Are you using any custom roms? I remember that cyanogen rom has some options about ringing in headphones, if I am not mistaken.
Also, did you test it on another phone to see if it's behaving the same way ?
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I am using Wildpuzzle 0.8. Checked media and phone audio is connected. Have tried it on a Nokia and same thing happens. Can the headset be updated or something? My way round is to mute the phone when I connect the headset but this is so inconvenient when sometimes I forget to reenable sound.
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I use these and they are great.
product 172052 on misco.co.uk (I can't post outside links)
MasterDL said:
I am using Wildpuzzle 0.8. Checked media and phone audio is connected. Have tried it on a Nokia and same thing happens. Can the headset be updated or something? My way round is to mute the phone when I connect the headset but this is so inconvenient when sometimes I forget to reenable sound.
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Try this: Do a nandroid back-up and flash CM7. See if the problem still persists.
If not... I`m out of ideas. Maybe try to get a refund?
I have read many threads with same complaint, now realising It's a feature of most new smartphones (dunno whether its just android or not) that phone always rings with Bluetooth headsets just in case for some reason you take out your earphones for some reason.
I'm a little reluctant to switch to cm7 waiting for it to be stable first.
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MasterDL said:
I have read many threads with same complaint, now realising It's a feature of most new smartphones (dunno whether its just android or not) that phone always rings with Bluetooth headsets just in case for some reason you take out your earphones for some reason.
I'm a little reluctant to switch to cm7 waiting for it to be stable first.
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I think it`s normal for a phone to ring via the speaker even with the headset connected. Maybe they just need to add an option for it.
I meant testing CM7, not switching to it completely. A 30 min job to test CM7 and restore nandroid.
Hi
Just got the MW600 as well, very pleased so far.
I have the same issue, phone is ringing as well - whereas it does not really bother me.
There are few things not working well for me, so I was hoping to find here some feedback:
- No Song titles are displayed (not so bad since it is normally clipped in a position where you can not easily check
- the call-button does not work to call somebody, only to take a call
- the play button does not automatically start playing HTC music - but worked with Winamp and Songbird
Any suggestions ?
Original Rom (l have 2.2.1 nie) have Sound quality issue over a2do. HTC support said, I must wait for next update (when they may be fix it)
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I'm having an issue with my Plantronics 903+ Bluetooth Headset. They pair and play's music fine , but it cuts out quite alot if i move about. Honestly if I have to sit still I may as well get wired headphones.
I am CM nightly's (71) with the latest radio flashed.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hello,
i use Jabra BT3030
http://www.productwiki.com/jabra-bt3030/
3 years of working, without any problem
Ok, I really start to like the SE MW600 a lot
If you get a call music stops and you can take the call with one button.
Double tapping the call button re-calls the last person you phoned - works good as well.
But I am still not having the ideal media player
Original HTC music player fails to start up automatically when you tab the music button
- but next song/pause works well
Songbird opens automatically, next song/pause/... works well but searching in a track not and it is rather heavy making the phone really slow
Winamp is probably the best, but I still think it is too heavy
Does anybody knows a good light media player with bluetooth support ?
gpgeza said:
Hello,
i use Jabra BT3030
3 years of working, without any problem
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I rely like the credit card size
Now i will just need to find a suitable motorcycle helmet -come in all types of handy with speed camera app`s
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The best headsets I came across was from soundID. They have really great stuff
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The best headsets I came across was from soundID. They have really great stuff
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you are right ^^
Thanks for Your help!
Thank You guys for your help. I read thread and finds it useful.
I have done extensive testing with both my HTC One and Samsung Galaxy Nexus regarding the phantom ringing noise that exists on bluetooth audio. This issue is not only present on streaming bluetooth audio but also present when the sound file is kept on the actual phone (using Google Play Music). So far I have tried the following:
1) Tried multiple roms both sense and aosp - the ringing/buzzing noise still exists on both (DEFINITION - PHANTOM RINGING/BUZZING NOISE - a buzzing series of overtones that exists particularly when listening to jazz music that has a lot of ride and crash cymbals being played) As a professional musician, this can be quite annoying.
2) Tried going back and forth between bluetooth and auxiliary cable on both phones (HTC One and Galaxy Nexus), trying AOSP vs. SENSE roms, streaming vs. non streaming. Both phones and all roms have the same issue present, the bluetooth audio has a fuzzy clarity to the cymbals. It is worth mentioning that the AOSP roms are slightly better in terms of less Phantom ringing/buzzing but far from perfect.
My question is, does anyone have a fix for this? I paid big bucks to have Bluetooth installed in my car and really want to use it.
The auxiliary cable sounds good until you plug your phone charger in.....that presents an even larger noise issue. Please help.
Thanks,
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I have done extensive testing with both my HTC One and Samsung Galaxy Nexus regarding the phantom ringing noise that exists on bluetooth audio. This issue is not only present on streaming bluetooth audio but also present when the sound file is kept on the actual phone (using Google Play Music). So far I have tried the following:
1) Tried multiple roms both sense and aosp - the ringing/buzzing noise still exists on both (DEFINITION - PHANTOM RINGING/BUZZING NOISE - a buzzing series of overtones that exists particularly when listening to jazz music that has a lot of ride and crash cymbals being played) As a professional musician, this can be quite annoying.
2) Tried going back and forth between bluetooth and auxiliary cable on both phones (HTC One and Galaxy Nexus), trying AOSP vs. SENSE roms, streaming vs. non streaming. Both phones and all roms have the same issue present, the bluetooth audio has a fuzzy clarity to the cymbals. It is worth mentioning that the AOSP roms are slightly better in terms of less Phantom ringing/buzzing but far from perfect.
My question is, does anyone have a fix for this? I paid big bucks to have Bluetooth installed in my car and really want to use it.
The auxiliary cable sounds good until you plug your phone charger in.....that presents an even larger noise issue. Please help.
Thanks,
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if 2 phones and different roms still cause the problem then it might be your BT system.
what music player are you using / do any of them have an EQ system you can adjust.
what BT system do you have?
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if 2 phones and different roms still cause the problem then it might be your BT system.
what music player are you using / do any of them have an EQ system you can adjust.
what BT system do you have?
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I am using an Audiovox Media bridge, however, I do not think that is the issue due to the fact that the issue improves slightly on the Aosp ROM. Additionally, when I run the aux through the media bridge I have no issues.
I am using Google play music. I have tried adjusting the EQ using Viper ROM 5.0 and have had no success. Any other ideas?