How did Google handle burning the Pixel screen? For MIUI rom, the clock moves to burn the display. But there is no such thing as PE, what solution do you use?
I have same question, on cherish OS always-on clock is always in one place it can hurt display.
If it was going to burn the screen like you said, Google would have already done it for to protect its devices
I think the idea of burning only applies to big TV Oled screens and not for smart phones
My old Pixel 2xl have burn ins, but from Chrome and nav bar+status bar, not from the always on feature. The clock is simple to dim i believe
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I buy this awesome watches before few days and I saw that watchface screen is randomly shifted around display and is not in center. This is refreshed about once per minute and I think that it's in response to gyroscope. Maybe it's some type of anti-screen-burn protection system. Can anyone explain what is this feature and how can i disable it?
It's exactly what you said, it is the AMOLED burn in protection. Unfortunately I don't know if or how it can be deactivated.
With an ambient watchface like yours, it does not make too much sense anyway, as the shift will not ensure that every pixel is not constantly on. To be honest, I don't know if it is a good idea to use such a watchface in ambient mode, as we have had already reports of burn in effects here in this forum. You may want to look for something optimized for AMOLED displays.
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It's exactly what you said, it is the AMOLED burn in protection. Unfortunately I don't know if or how it can be deactivated.
With an ambient watchface like yours, it does not make too much sense anyway, as the shift will not ensure that every pixel is not constantly on. To be honest, I don't know if it is a good idea to use such a watchface in ambient mode, as we have had already reports of burn in effects here in this forum. You may want to look for something optimized for AMOLED displays.
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Thank's for your contribution. I found some display burn-in-protection in developers menu of android wear, but it doesn't have effect after change...
When I was dating my ex, I always kept our text conversation open on my Note 4, and my Note 4's screen was set to never sleep/dim while plugged in. I had the screen on with our text messages for probably 8-10 hours a day for months.
Now her name, phone #, the keyboard, texting app, everything is burned into my Note 4 screen. It's really bad and noticeable in every app.
I tried running the screen burn-in fixer (that flashes different colors every 2-3 seconds) for over 18 hours and it did not seem to help the problem.
Does anybody know of a fix? Could I perhaps open a pure white screen for two days and hope that burns in?
There's really no fixing it. OLED screen burn-in is a brutal thing. If you're lucky, you might be able to get it replaced under a warranty.
The important thing to do is to learn from the experience. I mean that sincerely, and I hope it doesn't come across as at all condescending in tone. Going forward, if you get an OLED device, you'll want to make sure to avoid letting things like the status bar stay the same color for very long periods of time, and shorten the time before the screen shuts off.
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Your idea to potentially resolve it with a pure white image for an extended time, as I understand, is generally effective with LCD technology, but not OLED.
To understand why running the screen burn-in fixer for 18 hours will not fix it, you must understand how OLED, and plasma display panels, and even old-school CRTs work.
All 3 display technologies have self-illuminating phosphors. OLED panels use organic LEDs. Plasma display panels use tiny cells filled with, well, plasma. CRTs use phosphors which are illuminated by being bombarded with electrons. These phosphors slowly degrade over the life of the display, and as they do so they grow dimmer over time. By the end of their long production run, CRT phosphors reached the point where they would not noticeably dim during a human lifetime. Plasma phosphors never did, which is why burn-in was possible on the very last Panasonic plasma TVs that were manufactured before the whole thing was scuttled by the nearly bankrupt company.
Now we come to OLEDs. OLEDs are still a very immature technology and the problem of phosphors dimming rapidly and having a short lifetime has not been solved. There is a reason why LG is purposely using white OLEDs with an overlaid color filter on their OLED TVs. Samsung attempted to make OLED TVs for mass production using RGB OLEDs but withdrew from the market while they worked to improve the effective lifetime of the OLEDs, especially the blue ones.
So what actually is burn-in? It's simple. If you leave something showing statically on the OLED panel forever, such as your text message window, the illuminated OLEDs will drastically dim relative to the ones which are dark. What you're seeing is uneven wear of your OLED panel. Some pixels are worn out a lot, others are mostly unused.
Now you understand why your burn-in fixer will not do anything. Because the burn-in fixer shows static, full screen colors, it will wear down all your OLED phosphors evenly. This will never fix burn-in because you have some which are worn down unevenly, so wearing all of them down more does nothing!
Some people have attempted clever solutions, like taking a color-inverted screenshot of their burn-in and displaying that for a long time to try and wear the non burned-in pixels more to match the wear on the burned-in ones. This may theoretically work, but you must leave this image displaying for as long as you displayed the original screen that caused the burn-in. In your case, since you left your ex's text window on the screen for months, you will need to display the color-inverted image for months to wear the non burned-in pixels enough to match the burned-in ones.
My point is that you should just throw your phone away and buy a new one. You have basically destroyed your phone's OLED panel, chalk it up to a lesson learned and move on. Turn the damn screen off when you're not using your phone!
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Now her name, phone #, the keyboard, texting app, everything is burned into my Note 4 screen. It's really bad and noticeable in every app.
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This thread is now over a year old, and I don't know if you've thrown away the phone by now/had the screen replaced under a warranty as user Bicknasty suggested/something else, but here's a relatively simple solution I'm surprised no one else has mentioned:
While you can't actually get rid of AMOLED screen burn-in per se, you can certainly burn in other parts of the screen to the point where everything is burnt in about the same and the difference isn't really noticeable. You would do this by first pulling up the exact image that's burnt in (go to screen you had open for so much time that it burned in; you might want to take a screenshot and edit out all the dynamic elements of the user interface like the stuff on the notification bar and individual messages, so that you don't end up with those burnt in when you're done), then inverting the colors (you can find an option to do this in the settings application), and then leaving that image open 24/7 until the burn in of the inverted image has canceled out the original burn-in (you should check on this periodically by pulling up a white image that fills the screen). Remember, this won't technically get rid of the burn-in, but it'll make it impossible to notice. Good luck
Hey Guys,
yesterday I got my 5T and it's my first AMOLED device. So I was wondering if a burn in, e.g. of the statusbar, is common on modern OLED screens. Any experiences? At the monent, I use nova and hidde the statusbar on the homescreen but I'm not very happy with it xD.
Thanks in advance
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No. Even my 5 year old S3 has no Bun in. Of couse my 1,5 year old Oneplus 3 also does not have it. So dont be afraid.
Both the S3 and OP3 have no on screen navigation bars, that's why the degradation is uniform, hence no visible burn in.
Burn in occurs in all OLED panels, it's just less noticeable when it's uniform, hence the navigation bar on the OP5T is not in black.
Hide the softkeys completely and use LMT instead as navigations and provit ?
Hi there,
I recently got a Pixel 2 XL and Iove the phone Minus:
1) When I bend my phone at an angle I see a "blue tint" and when I hold it back straight, I don't see it. is it normal?
I just contacted support and they are sending a replacement but I want to make sure I know what to check when a new phone arrives.
2) How do I check for Screen Burn In issue? Any ways to reproduce it? (Should I use the phone in order to encounter this issue?)
3) Any other issues I should be concerned about when I'm checking out the phone?
Thanks,
Neo
search the forum, all your questions have been discussed ad nauseum.
How's about enjoy the device and quit looking for/creating issues? If you're buying something with the mindset that there is going to be an issue with it you're going to create one.
Burn in is not an issue. Google has already made changes to help alleviate burn in as well. They dim the nav bar buttons a couple seconds after use and they've updated plenty of Google apps to using a white nav bar with dark grey buttons. Google is also trying to get popular 3rd party apps to switch to a white nav bar with dark buttons. So don't worry about it. I've had plenty of amoled displays for years each. The only time burn in was ever noticeable, was when I downloaded a display checker app and looked for it. Otherwise, I would have never known it was there and never did see it during normal operation.
Edit: As for the blue tint. Yes it's there when you view the screen at an angle. I honestly forgot about it, until someone on Android Police brought it up a few days ago. It's a non-issue. Most displays have some degree of discoloration at an angle. This is a little more so than others, but how often do you use your phone at an angle and wish you had perfect colors. Pretty much never. If you're really looking at your phone, you're going to be looking right at it.
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Edit: As for the blue tint. Yes it's there when you view the screen at an angle. I honestly forgot about it, until someone on Android Police brought it up a few days ago. It's a non-issue. Most displays have some degree of discoloration at an angle. This is a little more so than others, but how often do you use your phone at an angle and wish you had perfect colors. Pretty much never. If you're really looking at your phone, you're going to be looking right at it.
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Agreed. When I first got the device, I noticed the blue tint right away when tilting the phone, but after a few days I stopped really noticing. Yes, we really shouldn't have this problem to this degree on such an expensive phone, but it's also not like the issue is present when looking at the phone head-on.
Every device has its own issues, and if you go looking for problems, you'll find them! It's up to you to decide if the problems outweigh the good things about the phone.
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Burn in is not an issue. Google has already made changes to help alleviate burn in as well. They dim the nav bar buttons a couple seconds after use and they've updated plenty of Google apps to using a white nav bar with dark grey buttons. Google is also trying to get popular 3rd party apps to switch to a white nav bar with dark buttons. So don't worry about it. I've had plenty of amoled displays for years each. The only time burn in was ever noticeable, was when I downloaded a display checker app and looked for it. Otherwise, I would have never known it was there and never did see it during normal operation.
Edit: As for the blue tint. Yes it's there when you view the screen at an angle. I honestly forgot about it, until someone on Android Police brought it up a few days ago. It's a non-issue. Most displays have some degree of discoloration at an angle. This is a little more so than others, but how often do you use your phone at an angle and wish you had perfect colors. Pretty much never. If you're really looking at your phone, you're going to be looking right at it.
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I don't know why they bothered dimming the navigation buttons. That won't really do anything for burn in. Burn in is caused by uneven aging of pixels. Since that bar is almost always black most of those pixels aren't being used so they are aging much slower than the rest of the screen. The best way to reduce the chances of burn in is to not have the navigation bar background black. The 8.1 update actually changes the background color to an almost white color but only in a few places such as Settings and GMail. Doing that system wide is the only thing that would REALLY reduce burn in.
However, in the almost 6 weeks that I've had my Pixel 2 XL I haven't seen any burn in yet.
As for the blue tint, I stopped noticing it as soon as I stopped looking for it.
I picked up a Pixel 2 XL and noticed the amount of blue tint is highly dependent on the brightness setting on the screen. On this phone, the blue tint is obvious at 30-45 degrees or more depending on the brightness. Yes, it is worse than the Note 8 and Moto Z Force I compared it to, but as others have said, you have to be looking for it or constantly tilting your phone.
The screen is quite good when viewed straight on or even at a slight angle. It still is a bit annoying that a nearly $900 device isn't up to par with Samsung models. For people that have Verizon and want stock Android this phone is the best option.
So i recently bought a used pixel xl and honestly im loving it. I just have this weird problem ever since i turned on gesture navigation. There is an imprint of the navbar stuck on the bottom of the display. Also the whole screen has a yellowish tint except for that region of the navbar. please take look at the pictures to better understand.
That's burn in, there's potentially some ways to save it by running those screen savers but I never had good luck with those. Theoretically, you would have to change the panel. The way to comprehend for this is lowering the brightness and using the display in different ways and a chance that the burn in could go away, but in most cases, its permanent.
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That's burn in, there's potentially some ways to save it by running those screen savers but I never had good luck with those. Theoretically, you would have to change the panel. The way to comprehend for this is lowering the brightness and using the display in different ways and a chance that the burn in could go away, but in most cases, its permanent.
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And what about the yellow tint in the display? It's that just a pixel XL thing