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It's a shame really, since I love EVERYTHING else about this watch - good price, snappy processor, GPS, WiFi (not even sure what that will bring eventually), NFC.
But with this thing serving primarily as a watch on my wrist, I just can't stand the ambient screen. From pretty much any angle it is a low-contrast, mustard-y yellow.
I'm looking at the LG R watch now. It's $50 more, and is missing a bunch of features, but the screen is GREAT. :'-(
I really wanted to like this watch! Please XDA, talk me into keeping it!!
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It's a shame really, since I love EVERYTHING else about this watch - good price, snappy processor, GPS, WiFi (not even sure what that will bring eventually), NFC.
But with this thing serving primarily as a watch on my wrist, I just can't stand the ambient screen. From pretty much any angle it is a low-contrast, mustard-y yellow.
I'm looking at the LG R watch now. It's $50 more, and is missing a bunch of features, but the screen is GREAT. :'-(
I really wanted to like this watch! Please XDA, talk me into keeping it!!
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell.
I love the sw3 and especially the ambient mode screen and GPS. Its looks like a compromise between a e-ink and LCD..
But maybe it's a kind of different tastes.
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The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell
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Good point about the burn-in. I just searched over on the LG R watch forums and there's some horror stories of burn-in after just a week. :-o That may be a deal-breaker for me.
Hah! You may have talked me into staying on SW3 just as I requested - thanks! :highfive:
It's a garbage screen on a first-gen looking product. I returned mine for the same reason.
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It's a garbage screen on a first-gen looking product. I returned mine for the same reason.
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I haven't gotten mine yet but have played with it in store. I wouldn't say it's garbage. Is it on par with other android wear devices? Probably not. However, just as another user stated above, its sort of a mix between e ink and color. It seems to be helping to deliver great battery life with it too. Also, with the update it seems you guys can turn off the feature of activating the screen arm movement. So with this screen you can leave it on always on mode and still be able to see the screen without killing battery. All the android wear devices are first gen tech, but the Sony SW 3 still offers so much more than any of the other watches. For that, I can certainly deal with the screen negatives. Even though it does offer positives so its not completely bad, therefore back to my point that I wouldn't call it garbage.
I like the screen...in my office or while outdoor, I can look at it at any time and almost any angle and can see the time w/o artifiially tilting my arm, or pressing a button. The screen is always on and I get easly 2 days...that is worth a lot to me. My 2 cents....
No matter how you look at it the pro's outweigh the con's.And if you can't live with then just return it and I'll keep mine.
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No matter how you look at it the pro's outweigh the con's.And if you can't live with then just return it and I'll keep mine.
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djgodlike said:
The LG P-OLED screen can burn in... Otherwise I possibly had bought it aswell.
I love the sw3 and especially the ambient mode screen and GPS. Its looks like a compromise between a e-ink and LCD..
But maybe it's a kind of different tastes.
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Good point. It's a major flaw of OLED screen. SW3's transflective screen is the perfect choice for ambient mode. It's more readable in bright sunlight. Honestly, transflective LCD is born for outside activities.
I got my first SW3. The screen is too yellow with a small dark spot at the bottom of the screen. I returned it immediately and now the 2nd one is really good.
I disagree. Try taking your smartphone and let the sun shine on the screen (or a bright lamp) and lower the brightness. The whites and blacks will be very similar in color to the SW3's screen. I'm currently using the Odyssey watchface and sometimes it takes a while for the full watchface to turn on so I get the opportunity to seen the ambient screen with the backlight on. Whites are white on it. What I would like is for the ambient light sensor to turn on the backlight at minimal brightness in low light conditions.
my device is very white. It is of course no OLED screen that are over saturated mostly but i definetly see no yellow tint there on white (maybe a really tiny bit more yellowish but really nothing i notice at all in normal use).
And having the watch always on is such a huge + in my opinion. Yes you can't see the screen in low light situations. But honestly.
People are never happy. When the backlight would be always on some people would complain that the watch is always making light in the dark.
(which would annoy me probably more)
If you want correctly displayed colors you would need to calibrate your screens.
Who does that for home usage here?
It's definitely not first gen. I had first gen smartwatch from Sony, this one is ten times better
I would like the option for a low backlight on low light (current low backlight settings are too bright to begin with). I suppose that's what custom ROMs/root apps are for.
I like it on mine. The default faces are pretty bad on it in ambient mode, but I built ones for it on Facer that make it really easy to read.
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I would like the option for a low backlight on low light (current low backlight settings are too bright to begin with). I suppose that's what custom ROMs/root apps are for.
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I'm not sure if you had something like this in mind ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57615301 ) ...but I'm using this app and it lets me lower the brightness down to where it's much more comfortable for using my watch in bed at night. The developer is letting us try it out for free until 12/21... but I went ahead and bought it for a buck from the Play Store.
Grown to love ambient mode, except for complete darkness I can read the watch fine.
I have a Gear Live, try to go out in the sun and read the time, this watch no problem.
I purchased Facer, made myself a digital watch face with huge numbers that makes the watch even more visible in direct sun
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I disagree. Try taking your smartphone and let the sun shine on the screen (or a bright lamp) and lower the brightness. The whites and blacks will be very similar in color to the SW3's screen. I'm currently using the Odyssey watchface and sometimes it takes a while for the full watchface to turn on so I get the opportunity to seen the ambient screen with the backlight on. Whites are white on it. What I would like is for the ambient light sensor to turn on the backlight at minimal brightness in low light conditions.
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Agreed! I live in Florida (the sunshine state) and spend lots of time outdoors. Our days are long, it's almost always sunny, and the sun is INTENSE! I got this watch specifically because of this display. Try reading an OLED display outdoors in Florida sun. Even my Note4 with its high-brightness outdoor mode is barely readable. Yet my SW3 is clear as day, with or without the backlight. Yes, it definitely doesn't look as pretty indoors as the OLED screens, but for my use its perfect. Not like I'm watching movies on it or anything. I'm glad Sony decided to carry over the transflective tech from the SW2...it was a bold move but it's one of the things that sets this product apart. If you don't like it, there are plenty of competing products on the market.
I just wish there was a way to disable the backlight under any ambient light conditions, like my SW2. One of the firmware updates for the SW2 introduced a smarter backlight that stayed off, even when in use, when there was enough ambient light, like outdoors. While it makes no difference in appearance, it helps conserve battery.
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Good point. It's a major flaw of OLED screen. SW3's transflective screen is the perfect choice for ambient mode. It's more readable in bright sunlight. Honestly, transflective LCD is born for outside activities.
I got my first SW3. The screen is too yellow with a small dark spot at the bottom of the screen. I returned it immediately and now the 2nd one is really good.
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Transflective screens are also installed on all Garmin outdoor standalone GPS: if you want a well readable screen on EVERY situation you need a transfective.... NOT a AMOLED.
Amoled is much contrasted and wonderful on artificial light or on low natural light, but is a pain during summer outdoor activity (and need maximum power consumption to be barely readable)
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Transflective screens are also installed on all Garmin outdoor standalone GPS: if you want a well readable screen on EVERY situation you need a transfective.... NOT a AMOLED.
Amoled is much contrasted and wonderful on artificial light or on low natural light, but is a pain during summer outdoor activity (and need maximum power consumption to be barely readable)
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The transflective display is one of the big selling points of this watch if you ask me. It's visible in pretty much any light except very low. I don't have to turn the backlight on to see it (saves battery) and it's viewable in direct sunlight. This is a huge plus for anyone taking this thing out for runs or bike rides. I'm a long distance runner and use this watch exclusively for tracking and music, it works great!
The screen on the Sony Smartwatch 3 is the best, hands the fak down!! Always on and viewable, just as watch suppose to be.
Its comical sporting a watch thats turned off until you put it up in front of your grill to turn ON...gayness to the fullest.
Hi, i was thinking of buying either a sony smartwatch 3 or a moto 360. Do all of you guys prefer the 3? Tge thing that has stopped me from buying the watch is the ambient screen. Based on your peraonal usage did you find the yellow tinge that noticeable? Do you have any pictures that you can show me just so I know its not going to be an issue for me. Also ive heard that the smartwatch is good for running? Is this true because thats what im looking for. Withthe ambient screen is there anyway to change the diaplay conditions so that that it is less yellow if I root rhe watch? Thanks for the help
yellow screen?
yes, you really should buy the SW3. I did it, and a friend bough the moto360, and he told me that he had a serious lack of battery, slow watch and so on. The SW3 works perfectly, has a great battery and the ambient mode is really good. On my side, i didn't notice any "Yellow-ish white". Definitely the best watch out there.
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yes, you really should buy the SW3. I did it, and a friend bough the moto360, and he told me that he had a serious lack of battery, slow watch and so on. The SW3 works perfectly, has a great battery and the ambient mode is really good. On my side, i didn't notice any "Yellow-ish white". Definitely the best watch out there.
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See attached picture....I like the ambient best on the Sony SW3 with a white background and black letters/time/text.
The background in ambient looks like one of those old LCDs and is very easy to read from all angles even in an office with less than perfect light conditions.
When you have a black background with white text it does look slightly yellowish, not bad in my opinion.
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See attached picture....I like the ambient best on the Sony SW3 with a white background and black letters/time/text.
The background in ambient looks like one of those old LCDs and is very easy to read from all angles even in an office with less than perfect light conditions.
When you have a black background with white text it does look slightly yellowish, not bad in my opinion.
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How did you flip the ambient mode? Typically it's white on black and yours is showing a black on white. Thanks
I created it with Intellicom. You can define the ambient background independently. I also own watchmaker, but unfortunately cannot specify the background for ambient mode there....unless someone tells me how to do that...I contacted the developers but never heard back. Maybe if several SW3 owners raise their voice we get that feature in watchmaker (which otherwise is a great tool).....
Invert it! Getring more white on ambient uses more battery.
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I created it with Intellicom. You can define the ambient background independently. I also own watchmaker, but unfortunately cannot specify the background for ambient mode there....unless someone tells me how to do that...I contacted the developers but never heard back. Maybe if several SW3 owners raise their voice we get that feature in watchmaker (which otherwise is a great tool).....
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I own (and use) WatchMaker too. Invert colors. Simple as that
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Ah, I will try that. White does NOT use more battery in case of the SW3....transreflective and not OLED display!
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Ah, I will try that. White does NOT use more battery in case of the SW3....transreflective and not OLED display!
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Ok I finally noticed the yellow...
It's only noticeable in a particular light one a white screen on a certain angle...
Meh, its worth it for the advantages of the transflective screen...
bBigBrO, where can I set "invert"? I select a watchface, click on "customize", but then I cannot find the option to invert the colors....
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bBigBrO, where can I set "invert"? I select a watchface, click on "customize", but then I cannot find the option to invert the colors....
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Just add a square shape, enlarge it to fill the screen, move it to the bottom, make it whatever color you want* and set it to display when dimmed only. There's your ambient mode background.
*As MickeZzz has pointed out, although you can set the color to whatever you want, it will probably be displayed as one of four shades of gray (white, light gray, dark gray or black) in ambient mode. But the point remains that you can use a white background in ambient mode.
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Ah, I will try that. White does NOT use more battery in case of the SW3....transreflective and not OLED display!
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Aren't we talking about two different things here? The transflective screen doesn't require power to be readable in all but the dimmest light; that's true. But it's still not like an e-ink display, which can continue to display an image after power is disconnected. Doesn't every non-black pixel on the screen draw some power, even in ambient mode? Maybe the drain is small enough to be insignificant, but I don't think it's zero.
Please correct me if I'm wrong about this!
No. The Sony one is a transflective LCD. LCD use the least power when displaying white. Black requires LCDs to draw power to change polarity to filter out the backlight...hope that clarifies things.
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Just add a square shape, enlarge it to fill the screen, move it to the bottom, make it whatever color you want and set it to display when dimmed only. There's your ambient mode background.
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how do you add a shape?
EDIT Oh your on about watchmaker not intellicom
Yes, watchmaker....btw, how do you move a square to the bottom (in priority I suppose)? I tried the above and it displays but the text ist not showing....
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Yes, watchmaker....btw, how do you move a square to the bottom (in priority I suppose)? I tried the above and it displays but the text ist not showing....
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https://m.reddit.com/r/WatchMaker/comments/2ldhuf/support_how_can_i_move_layers_to_change_frontback/
Summary: long press a thumbnail, then press again and drag. The bottom layer at far left.
I made a simple test in watchmaker to show the difference between bright and dimmed screen. I simply added two pictures in watchmaker and put the display mode to always on the pictures that I used.
In dimmed it seems to only display four different gray colors.
It wasn't possible to make screenshot so I simply used the camera, sorry about the bad screenguard on watch.
I really like the screen outdoor!
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No. The Sony one is a transflective LCD. LCD use the least power when displaying white. Black requires LCDs to draw power to change polarity to filter out the backlight...hope that clarifies things.
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I'm not trying to dispute you, but I am trying to grasp this, especially since finding an earlier thread here, in which it's pointed out that the unpowered state of the display is, in fact, black. That would seem to suggest that black uses less power, but I realize it's not necessarily that simple. Do you know of any references that explain this?
I of course could be wrong with respect to the LCD in the SW3, I am only repeating what I have read about LCD a long time ago....
Best is you try for yourself - I have not noticed any significant difference (clearly not a scientific study) and I like the contrast better when the background is white.
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I of course could be wrong with respect to the LCD in the SW3, I am only repeating what I have read about LCD a long time ago....
Best is you try for yourself - I have not noticed any significant difference (clearly not a scientific study) and I like the contrast better when the background is white.
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Thanks. I've experimented some, too, but haven't noticed a significant difference. Your info may very well be correct, of course.
I must say Sony SmartWatch 3 is the best current smart watch as unlike other watches I own (LG G Watch, Samsung Gear S)...
I can use it outside in the sun
I can charge it using simple micro USB at work or simply anywhere without having to worry about charging cradle
I switch it off and power it on without cradle
Wifi!
GPS!
No need for switching to cinema mode when watching movies
As I wrote, it has a button so I can disable the damn touch to wake
Ambient light sensor!
When I first installed my watchface to my brand new SW3 I noticed that the white color looked indeed with yellowish tint while the tiny bit darker shade (#EEEEEE) looked like perfectly shining white. I ended up using this color for SW3 in this watchface. Is it just my mind playing tricks on me (because of all the surrounding black) or is it really white without tint?
This all makes want to try re-style the colors of the system clockwork apk and maybe system styles/colors to this shade.
Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
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Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
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you missed out IP68 and NFC
I only notice the yellow, in certain light at a certain angle... its nothing that concerns me in the slightest.
The Smartwatch 3 is definitely the est choice of a smartwatch for a utilitarian...
At least in Sweden, the pricing is very attractive too
I'm happy to read this topic, I've just won the bidding on eBay at $ 128 ☺
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just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
al404 said:
just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
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This is kinda on purpose. Sony opted for transflective so it can be used in sunlight very easily. The trade off is the screen quality isn't "as good" as others. But in all honesty I'd rather be able to use it outside. You get used to the yellowing and it becomes barely noticeable.
I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Hmm I will look into it to see if I can find a manufacturer, I usually take my electronics apart and look at the parts and play with them but I haven't done it to any smartwatches yet... Just haven't had the time.
And your SW3 gets worse battery life than an AMOLED? I haven't seen that personally. My SW3 gets 2 days minimum on a charge. My Zenwatch lucky to get 1, my Gear S can get one with 30% or so left.
There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen. Right now many people get hours. This is an android bug and not a function of the tech itself. Sony is working on it, but it is making many people myself included rethink the device.
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There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen.
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On what bloody planet does the screen tech have *anything* to do with the battery drain bug!?!?
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The theory is that our screen stays in ambient mode constantly whereas most people do not let the others stay on so long due to battery drain. On our screen, ambient mode should not use much battery so we use it constantly, but on the other device gives most people leave the always on off because the screen is actually always on.
In ambient mode in addition to the normal mode, the watch is constantly connecting and disconnecting from the phone. This is triggering a drain.
If the screen is off, it is not happening.
It seems logical, but is not my theory. I am just reiterating the chatter on the other thread.
One thing I can say, our watch sleeps differently than other wear watches because of the screen. Therefore we will potentially notice wakelocks differently than them.
Has anyone worn a bright white face here yet using WM? Every time I set a bright white face, the screen flickers a little when dim mode is active. It is so hard to see it but it's definitely there. I have troubleshot for 12+ hours and have determined that it just can't be a hardware issue because any other bright face is fine and in normal/non-dim mode, everything is perfect! Plus, when I use a chronograph with bright white dials, the flicker isn't there at all. I know one thing: I'm NOT RMA'ing this thing until the 11th month OR if ti fails, lol. Thanks in advance for your input!
Yes, I have seen this too. It only happens with a white face in dim mode.
I don't think it's a big deal as I am not sure that we should be using a white face in dim mode, as it "could" cause burn in (but not sure about that).
I have the same thing on my watch. I tought it was my Android phone at first so I did a factory reset on the watch and tried it on an iPhone 6 running iOS 9 and still saw this issue.
You can clearly see the flickering on Catchcat watchface app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dd.watchdesigner.catchcat
It's really annoying and I'm hoping there's a software fix so I don't have to return my watch.
Would this also happen on the moto 360 2nd Gen? I know the screen is not AMOLED...
Thanks guys, I was starting to think it was me since no one else saw it when I posted on G+! I'm hoping it is a software issue at this point.
Hey Jeff! Just chiming in here. Like you, I do change up my faces and have tried to troubleshoot and replicate the flicker. I think my eyes are going so I don't really notice it. Did you try using the animation boost in Watchmaker to see if that does anything? I personally think it's a refresh issue, because of the res of the Huatch, it can't handle it when going into dimmed mode. Just thinkin out loud lol.
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Hey Jeff! Just chiming in here. Like you, I do change up my faces and have tried to troubleshoot and replicate the flicker. I think my eyes are going so I don't really notice it. Did you try using the animation boost in Watchmaker to see if that does anything? I personally think it's a refresh issue, because of the res of the Huatch, it can't handle it when going into dimmed mode. Just thinkin out loud lol.
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Hey, long time to hear I definitely misunderstood you on that one...I thought you meant the bright>dim animation transitions, which I don't use. I actually didn't try the animation boost yet under settings, will try that! For the record, I still find this to be my favorite smartwatch:good:
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I have the same thing on my watch. I tought it was my Android phone at first so I did a factory reset on the watch and tried it on an iPhone 6 running iOS 9 and still saw this issue.
You can clearly see the flickering on Catchcat watchface app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dd.watchdesigner.catchcat
It's really annoying and I'm hoping there's a software fix so I don't have to return my watch.
Would this also happen on the moto 360 2nd Gen? I know the screen is not AMOLED...
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The Moto 360 2 has a very "dim" ambient mode so no, it definitely will not flicker but who cares when you can't even see it, LOL. Please let us know if you decide to return it and/or contact Huawei about this.
There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable.
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There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable.
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Nice to see you here too The flicker only occurs when a white face is sitting in dim mode. (not the transition) What's really odd is the fact I can still see the flicker after adding a circle at 80% opacity in dim only...weird issue. (almost like it cant handle any whites in dim mode/low power mode) As I mentioned on Google+ it's not a big deal, I never wear white faces. (was just testing them) Thanks anyway!
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There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable.
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Great, it works :good:
Great. Thanks for feedback. Cheers
My watch also flickers but only in sunlight. If I'm somewhere indoors I can barely see it but its definitely there. It also happens with black watchfaces and white numbers. Anyone with the same problem?
I know this is old post, but mine also does that. Black face with white numbers and hands. It flickers only when outside in sunlight.
So what's the solution? I modify my watchmaker face to put a black circle with an opacity on top of everything?
Again, sorry for raising a dead thread, but these are my thoughts:
I think the hwatch is just lowering the refresh rate of the screen in dim mode as to preserve battery life. Instead of running at 60hz it's probably clocking down to 30hz or something of that nature.
Just a guess.
My Huawei Watch slightly flickers when activate the dimmed mode. Only in faces with clear backgrounds
pretty sure some talanted dev can just look into the kernel/settings because its just a refresh rate setting.
I think its absolutely normal unless its literally flickering right infront of your eyes all the time...it depends when your eyes catches the screen (on a white background ) the level of degree you see it. Im sure it flickers but our eyes cant see it
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My watch has the same thing but you can see the flicker really good when using a white watchface in dim mode.
So this is "normal" and i don't have to RMA it?
Check flickering under normal light. Outside. Mike
Great "fix"
niteowl360 said:
There is one solution that works quite well.
Place a solid black circle on the top layer (actually below the hands layer).
Make the layer dimmed only.
Use opacity to suit eg 60%.
When watch goes to dim or wakes up from dim, the flicker will be much less noticeable.
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Thanks ! That's an easy and effective fix...
I'm really trying to like the Honor 7x but I get headaches using it and I think it's something funny with the screen. When held vertically, in portrait position, looking at the screen while reading emails and the news gives me a head ache and I can't put my finger on why. It's almost like certain parts of the screen are out of focus. It's better when held horizontally in landscape position but still not great. Adjusting the blue light filter and changing the white point doesn't seem to help, although whats interesting is that dropping the screen resolution in the battery setting helps a little.
Any one else having similar problems?
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epictouch4sho said:
I'm really trying to like the Honor 7x but I get headaches using it and I think it's something funny with the screen. When held vertically, in portrait position, looking at the screen while reading emails and the news gives me a head ache and I can't put my finger on why. It's almost like certain parts of the screen are out of focus. It's better when held horizontally in landscape position but still not great. Adjusting the blue light filter and changing the white point doesn't seem to help, although whats interesting is that dropping the screen resolution in the battery setting helps a little.
Any one else having similar problems?
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Well.. I'm Sorry To Hear The Honor 7X Is Not Quite Working As You Expected..
Let's take a Load off.. Your Mind AND most importantly your eyes...
I'll pay $110.00 right now to take the 7X off your hands.
P.M. me.... and let's get this done.
epictouch4sho said:
I'm really trying to like the Honor 7x but I get headaches using it and I think it's something funny with the screen. When held vertically, in portrait position, looking at the screen while reading emails and the news gives me a head ache and I can't put my finger on why. It's almost like certain parts of the screen are out of focus. It's better when held horizontally in landscape position but still not great. Adjusting the blue light filter and changing the white point doesn't seem to help, although whats interesting is that dropping the screen resolution in the battery setting helps a little.
Any one else having similar problems?
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Never heard anything like this.. lol :silly:
Did you used to work on phones with a lot lower PPI?
and now the screen is super sharp which is giving you a headache..loll
theres nothing wrong with your phone..
sid21 said:
Never heard anything like this.. lol :silly:
Did you used to work on phones with a lot lower PPI?
and now the screen is super sharp which is giving you a headache..loll
theres nothing wrong with your phone..
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You're right, there wasn't anything wrong with the phone. Perhaps just a screen calibration that I just couldn't handle with extend use. Youtube reviewer Damir Franc sees it too and calls it a weird screen contrast calibration. I think it's a combination of the contrast calibration, the not so great viewing angles, as well as major glare in practically any lit situation. I get it, its a budget device, but isn't the screen supposed to be the main selling point with the Honor 7x? It sure as hell isn't the lack of NFC.
Damir Franc Honor 7x review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Cwv1Qcgvw
TIme stamp: 2:29 for display.
I felt that too
Can you try another one to make sure it's not workmanship?
optionalmgrr.la said:
Can you try another one to make sure it's not workmanship?
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I returned the Honor 7x and don't plan on trying a new one. I don't think this screen calibration issue that I have with the Honor 7x is unique to the device I had received. I think the 7x display was calibrated this way to make the budget panel "pop." Initially I thought the display was wonderful but after staring at it for more that a few minutes I realized that I wouldn't be able to use the 7x as my daily driver. Like I said in the initial post, turning down the screen resolution in the battery settings helped but didn't eliminate the problem.
epictouch4sho said:
You're right, there wasn't anything wrong with the phone. Perhaps just a screen calibration that I just couldn't handle with extend use. Youtube reviewer Damir Franc sees it too and calls it a weird screen contrast calibration. I think it's a combination of the contrast calibration, the not so great viewing angles, as well as major glare in practically any lit situation. I get it, its a budget device, but isn't the screen supposed to be the main selling point with the Honor 7x? It sure as hell isn't the lack of NFC.
Damir Franc Honor 7x review:
TIme stamp: 2:29 for display.
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Loll, he is simply calling it weird brightness.. A lot to go on for guys like you i guess..
The display isnt oled panel of course..
The brightness which you guys are referring to is the color popping out in the broad day light.. Its intentionally done so as to give a good brightness outside..
The viewing angles? Of course its an ips display so it wont give the viewing angles like those with amoled displays in the mid to high range phone category..
And i call it the 2017 budget phone since no phone has the amoled display with 18:9 ratio..
Nor MI A1 which is the closest competitor has the viewing angles which youre refering to..
They cant give you all the features of a 500$ phone in a 200$ price point..
Chip in cash for unecessary bump i guess then..
That ll be good for you..
But for most 510 nits is a really good display brightness compared to the averagr 470 level..
Sorry To Hear That..
epictouch4sho said:
I returned the Honor 7x and don't plan on trying a new one..
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I'm Sorry To Hear That...
I hope you find a device that better suits your needs.
I'm curious though... did you try this simple adjustment to change and possibly improve the effects the 7X had on your eyes ? ( See Pic )
It can make a tremendous difference.. should you decide to give the 7X just one more try..