Develop Bugs

Brightness Uniformity of Note 2 Display.

When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?

Okay, my eyes are playing with me; just washed my eyes and everything looks normal, what AMOLED should look like, early mornings, lol :silly:

winlinmac001 said:
When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?
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yeah seems you're trying really hard to find any imperfections. "extremely hard to tell, play with brightness modes, squint eyes etc"
should i do this under a full moon or candle light?
i usually stay away from these threads but just found all the conditions you mentioned funny. just use your phone under normal conditions. i havent noticed a single flaw... cause im not looking & digging for them.
you have three threds open discussing screens, mura & audio problems... seems like maybe you're trying to convince yourself or others about something?
EDIT: Four threads.... Refurbished phone

Perhaps, I know I paid too much, and finding flaw's like these shouldn't be so easy. I mean, I've been through '3' Note 2 already, currently on my 3rd Note 2, and am I trying to mend my relationship with the Samsung Company, especially after facing more or less similar experiences on the S2 and Note 1. I know my AMOLED display is fine, but physical things like chrome-paint finish, and elevated home button are things I really hoped Samsung would improve their quality-control on; pretty soon, they will loose business as a result of this. I made threads not only to share my insight, but to also have an open discussion about everything I have come across with the Note 2. Not surprising, many have seemed to confirm the same things that I see. So, I'm just joining the bandwagon and moving along. :good:

I think I'm going blind because im very satisfied with screen on my note or maybe I'm not that picky. I be happy if it last next 2-3 years or until my next impuls buy.
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I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.

I don't think I can do that.
SlsAustin said:
I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.
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[Q]How bright are your touch keys?

Are they bright or dim? I remember my first Note 3 had brighter touch keys than the one I'm currently using. This kind of bothers me but I don't want to make any decisions just yet because the Note 3's are very inconsistent and I don't want another with more problems and find out all Note 3 have dim buttons. :silly:
Edit: Pictures added. This 5mp camera on my LG-v909 does no justice haha but as you can see its very low. The touch keys are brighter in the photos but IRL they look very dark and washed out.

lm that guy said:
Are they bright or dim? I remember my first Note 3 had brighter touch keys than the one I'm currently using. This kind of bothers me but I don't want to make any decisions just yet because the Note 3's are very inconsistent and I don't want another with more problems and find out all Note 3 have dim buttons. :silly:
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Can you possibly post a pic so we can see what you are talking about? Never known keys to have lighting issues

dragonstalker said:
Can you possibly post a pic so we can see what you are talking about? Never known keys to have lighting issues
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Hey, sorry for the delay, pictures added

lm that guy said:
Hey, sorry for the delay, pictures added
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Looks pretty much normal to me. I'm no lighting expert, but looks the same as mine giving it's pics and not side by side.

Not sure how you would be able to rate this without having two phones side by side to know for sure unless it was a drastic difference.
I can't see anything wrong with the images you posted, look normal to me.

It looks normal to me to. I sort of feel like other Galaxy devices were brighter. The note looks good either way though.
Also, if they were brighter they would probably be more annoying/noticeable. I think I remember looking down at them on the Note II a lot more.

The white is really bright, the black is dimmer. Its the same on all of them in my experience.

aooga said:
The white is really bright, the black is dimmer. Its the same on all of them in my experience.
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I tend to agree with this. My GSII was black, and they weren't that bright, but my Note 3 is white, and they are so bright it makes the screen look dim when they are on even with the screen brightness at 50%. Forget at night. They blind me! LOL

I disabled them on my white Note 3 as they shine bright and bleed quite a bit.
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CalcProgrammer1 said:
I disabled them on my white Note 3 as they shine bright and bleed quite a bit.
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Ah yes. I forgot to mention that. Bad bleeding. The whole area around them light up.

bobbyphoenix said:
Ah yes. I forgot to mention that. Bad bleeding. The whole area around them light up.
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Yeah, they do bleed.
I just started a thread about the issue I'm having with mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50144333
I might just turn the lights off, very bright. Should be an option to dim them.

My black Note3 is just fine. My old white SGS3, though, bled a bit in pitch black darkness, but it didn't really care because it was so subtle and not worth complaining about (SOME people actually returned their phones over it *hah*).
Anyway, I really wish the Note4 would ditch capacitive buttons, then how bright they are is a non-issue. I want my next phablet to have onscreen nav buttons, like the direction LG and Moto are going.

zmore said:
Anyway, I really wish the Note4 would ditch capacitive buttons, then how bright they are is a non-issue. I want my next phablet to have onscreen nav buttons, like the direction LG and Moto are going.
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why not get the phone that has the features you want like above mentioned LG or Moto? I want hardware buttons so I have full use of the screen and that's part of the reason I picked Note 3 over other phablets and unless there is no bezel at all, I would be disappointed if part of the screen was wasted for things that could be off screen. If LG and Moto are trying to save few cents on hardware buttons, among other things, that's fine, but that's part of the reason I won't buy them.
Going back to the topic, as far as I can tell from the pictures it looks fine, similar in brightness to the screen icons, probably that's how I would want them, but honestly isn't it a little nit picking? I would never return the phone for such a minor thing since by now I don't even look at it no more, I know by heart where it is and yep there is a chance new phone could have some other problems, like crooked button for example. I'm sure there is a setting where it could be adjusted, especially if it's true that black Note 3 has lower setting than white, but not in user accessible menu.
Maybe developers could figure it out?

pete4k said:
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why not get the phone that has the features you want like above mentioned LG or Moto? I want hardware buttons so I have full use of the screen and that's part of the reason I picked Note 3....
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Because Samsung still features a removable battery and microSDXC slot. That's really the main reason I've stuck with 'em.
(And software nav buttons really take up almost no space (and even less when configurable in the ROM); zero in immersive mode. I'd rather have the phone physically shrink w/o h/w buttons.)

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Because Samsung still features a removable battery and microSDXC slot. That's really the main reason I've stuck with 'em.
(And software nav buttons really take up almost no space (and even less when configurable in the ROM); zero in immersive mode. I'd rather have the phone physically shrink w/o h/w buttons.)
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You say almost no space but in reality it takes up .2" of screen. So a Moto X goes from 4.7" to 4.5". A Note 3 would go from 5.7" to 5.5" which is the same as the Note 2, effectively erasing the size difference between the 2 phones.
I personally don't want on screen nav buttons. If I'm buying a 5.7" screen I want to use 5.7". I understand some people may have other preferences, but the screen is the #1 feature of a phone, you look at and touch it 100% of the time.

I don't even know how on screen system buttons work, since I never had one, but if they permanently cut off 0.2 inch off screen , NO WAY. This would mess up everything: all the 16:9 1080p movies are then 1020p with border all around or are they no longer proper 16:9 ratio? Is the edge of the movie just cut off, or is every single frame rescaled to fit smaller area? And why would I ever want to have this, to admire huge empty bezel? Or to have more fingerprints and smudges on my screen
And yes exactly, all those companies cut out SD card slot, removable battery and hardware buttons most likely to save few pennies. So Samsung has my money.

I turn soft key lights OFF!
I cannot possibly forget that menu is one side and back is on the other. The fact that I'm reading about this "bleeding" being an issue is manna from Heaven. I don't understand why anybody would keep them on! Not to mention night use.

pete4k said:
I don't even know how on screen system buttons work, since I never had one, but if they permanently cut off 0.2 inch off screen , NO WAY. This would mess up everything: all the 16:9 1080p movies are then 1020p with border all around or are they no longer proper 16:9 ratio? Is the edge of the movie just cut off, or is every single frame rescaled to fit smaller area? And why would I ever want to have this, to admire huge empty bezel? Or to have more fingerprints and smudges on my screen
And yes exactly, all those companies cut out SD card slot, removable battery and hardware buttons most likely to save few pennies. So Samsung has my money.
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No the Nav Buttons disappear when playing a movie. But when using the phone they are there so they become intrusive in my opinion.

OP3 screen clearness ?

Hello !
I was just about to order my OP3 and I saw on YouTube in an OP3's review someone who was complaining about the clearness of the screen and even two guys answered him like 'yeah u right'.
So you guys, daily use, do you feel like screen is a little bit not clear, I really enjoy reading tons of books and watching series (more than 7k episodes) even very late on night so I must know if it is indeed as these guys on YouTube said a little bit pixelised and you know, like in old screens not really really precise, gives the feeling that they are drooling, flowing, runny, and not good clearness.
I must apologise for all my english misspells, english is not my main language so, sorry about your eyes.
Thank you and I wish you guys a very good day !

Just nah... My screen is as big.. Nothing to worry about i get my OP3 soon. Even my PC monitor is 1080p 23".

But your computer's screen doesn't has the same pitch as the op3 dude

Only problem I found is having ambient display lower my brightness too low for some movies I like to watch. Quickly fixed by turning it off and manually adjusting brightness.
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making it "RAIN!"

it might not seem very shar pif you come from a Quad HD display. but I adjusted quite fast. I am very pleased with the display.

Dogematique said:
But your computer's screen doesn't has the same pitch as the op3 dude
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Still. Nothing to worry about.

Well, thank you all guys.
Just ordered so ! Wish you a wonderful day and Never settle !

egren58 said:
it might not seem very shar pif you come from a Quad HD display. but I adjusted quite fast. I am very pleased with the display.
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I'll see how that compares tomorrow. I'll be going from a qHD LG G4 to the OP3. It's sharp and all, but then again, the LG panel never was praised for being exactly the best on the market. The brightness sucks in the outdoors ... and you can't use it in landscape orientation if wearing polarized sunglasses - which is terrible if you're trying to shoot pictures or video outdoors in the sun!

Huawei Mate 20 Screen Bleed

I am planing to buy the mate 20, the regular one, and was wondering if it has any issues like the pro version. I read that it doesnt have the green hue around the screen, but it does have some white bleed (usually at the bottom of the screen). If you own one please report if you have or dont have any screen issues. Thanks.

well it has the lower edge bleeding symptom but it is very mild and not noticeable like pocophone .. i remind you this is normal with ips panels .. it needs a pixel peeping eye to notice the bleeding
anything else you want to ask about ?!

Mine has light breed at the bottom, left, and, right (more at the bottom). I can see it quite obviously when on grey/ brown backgound but it doesnt bother me much.

mustafa811 said:
well it has the lower edge bleeding symptom but it is very mild and not noticeable like pocophone .. i remind you this is normal with ips panels .. it needs a pixel peeping eye to notice the bleeding
anything else you want to ask about ?!
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thanks for the update..thats the only thing that I heard about.. I hope it doesnt have any other issues. I will check this out before buying and see if its going to bug me a lot

mustafa811 said:
well it has the lower edge bleeding symptom but it is very mild and not noticeable like pocophone .. i remind you this is normal with ips panels .. it needs a pixel peeping eye to notice the bleeding
anything else you want to ask about ?!
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My mate 20 bottom have yellowish. Means its normal? It can be clearly seen when using white background and 100% brightness. If auto mode, sometimes can see the difference ???

thariq06 said:
My mate 20 bottom have yellowish. Means its normal? It can be clearly seen when using white background and 100% brightness. If auto mode, sometimes can see the difference
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i noticed that too but it is not noticable at all and considered a very minor issue that do not require you sending the phone back
ppl must appreciate something here quality control is becoming not acceptable those days when it comes to display screens .. all amoled screens exhibit an obvious color tint when looking at the phone or just angling it .. so think before you send it back .. you might get a worse phone .. you might not find another phone model with a better screen
i noticed the bleeding lower edge but it is better than most phones .. i noticed the all over yellowish tint of screen when colors set to normal but when i changed it to vivid cool whites are good and acceptable .. the lower yellowish tint is there also but it is minimal and considered a normal variance when dealing with screens .. the screen has a tendency to oversaturate red color and when you put phone into landscape videos contrast and colors increased abnormally but there may be a software fix for that soon
so you must know what are you dealing with and what to expect
also the mobile overheats when playing pubg on max for more than 15 minutes but i think thats quite normal when you pack the strongest processer and battery of that size in one phone

Thank God I don't have it.
The phone otherwise has a wonderful battery, easily last 7 hours sot during 19 to 24 hours charging cycle, very fast and stable l, camera is really good buttttt.... Emui is still crippled and stupid !!! For example comparing it to one UI beta I have on my note 9, HUGE DIFFERENCE in user experience animation and usefull features

I have a Mate 20 since one month and no problem with the mobile, the screen or anything else.

Actually it's normal for all IPS Panels and believe me you'll never notice anything not unless you will look for it. It's visible only in certain angles.

No problems here, anything good

Clarity/resolution

The Xiaomi Mi A3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

If you have enough time, you can actually count all the pixels by naked eye.

peterf81 said:
If you have enough time, you can actually count all the pixels by naked eye.
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Dont forget the price of the phone.
For the price all are very good.
You took more than you pay for me.

papsr6 said:
Dont forget the price of the phone.
For the price all are very good.
You took more than you pay for me.
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Ya for the price this is a really good phone, the display is the only con but u won't notice it untill u compare it with a full hd panel this aside what u get is a amoled panel and a indisplay finger print scanner

It's a good display knowing it has samoled display , but yes the pixels are visible

I'm coming from an old samsung galaxy j3 (720p) and to be honnest I am NOT disapointed, and no, I cannot count the pixels by naked eye.
It's an amazing phone for its price, and I'm glad I bought it.

Agreed, some people are exaggerating the pixel counting thing
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I'm coming from an old samsung galaxy j3 (720p) and to be honnest I am NOT disapointed, and no, I cannot count the pixels by naked eye.
It's an amazing phone for its price, and I'm glad I bought it.
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Some people are really blowing things out of proportions. I bet they don't even have this phone / didn't use it for long. They just read some BS on the internet about how awful that display was & now they are crying foul over it on this forum
I'm coming from Mi 8 SE, which has a HDR10 capable super amoled panel. Obviously, it will be foolish to compare Mi A3's panel with that phone but I must say, A3's display rather surprised me. The colors might be over saturated for some people but honestly, it looks quite good. And no, I really couldn't see the pixels. Well, the pixels are kinda visible, specially when you're trying to read an article with white fonts against a dark background Still, the AMOLED panel is good.
(Hey Xiaomi, this doesn't mean you should start this ridiculous trend of putting low res screens on your mid-range devices Especially the Mi A series, which happens to have a huge fan following. Stupid move)

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The Xiaomi Mi A3 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Any one noticed warm display ? (Yellowish tones)

shake3 said:
Any one noticed warm display ? (Yellowish tones)
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Mine has yellowish tone too. It's not unbearable or anything, but the display is on the warmer side. I know some people like it cool, but I don't mind a display which appears warm. I find it easier on my eyes, especially at night.

evanB70 said:
Mine has yellowish tone too. It's not unbearable or anything, but the display is on the warmer side. I know some people like it cool, but I don't mind a display which appears warm. I find it easier on my eyes, especially at night.
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Agreed with you on soothing warm tones.
I guess I will keep it like that

Display is good and clear. but you can see the pixels with naked ayes if you're close enough...

Night light is also not usable, even on the lowest setting it is too much red/warm. I just want to make the display like 5-10% warmer, and not go into red berserk mode.

If you go into developer mode, does picture color mode or simulated color space help?

I got the phone for my wife, was playing with it for a few hours and these are my findings and comparison with Mi A1:
- A3 has warm tones, A1 is very cool (haven't noticed it before the comparison)
- night light is fine at minimum intensity or just a tad above, definitely not a red berserk. A1 has strong blue hue even with night light (haven't noticed it before).
- A3 has clearly visible pixels, it's a huge downgrade compared to A1 side by side. BUT, after a while, I did not really mind the pixelation of A3 that much (humans can get used probably to anything).
- without my correction glasses, I strongly prefer A3 display over A1. Something how it's being blurred by my eyes makes AMOLED more comfortable.
- colors are nicer/punchier on A3 (confirmed by my wife too)
- brightness seems to be quite low, for the same perceived level I need to configure A3 ~70%, A1 ~50%. I can't imagine using minimum brightness in real life (the same goes with A1), it's barely visible. Need to compare both phones in strong light / outdoors.
- PWM does not flicker at any brightness level
Overall, I would definitely prefer 1080 AMOLED over 720 AMOLED. 720 AMOLED vs. 1080 LCD is a tough call. I'm still debating myself whether I should switch from A1 to A3. I really like the form factor, responsiveness, absolutely clear audio output, 128gb storage, file based encryption and the feel of A3. Non existing "Mi A3 PRO" (Mi CC9) would be a better choice, though bigger form factor is definitely less comfortable for one hand usage (the main reason why I want to replace A1). Decisions, decisions..

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I got the phone for my wife, was playing with it for a few hours and these are my findings and comparison with Mi A1:
- A3 has warm tones, A1 is very cool (haven't noticed it before the comparison)
- night light is fine at minimum intensity or just a tad above, definitely not a red berserk. A1 has strong blue hue even with night light (haven't noticed it before).
- A3 has clearly visible pixels, it's a huge downgrade compared to A1 side by side. BUT, after a while, I did not really mind the pixelation of A3 that much (humans can get used probably to anything).
- without my correction glasses, I strongly prefer A3 display over A1. Something how it's being blurred by my eyes makes AMOLED more comfortable.
- colors are nicer/punchier on A3 (confirmed by my wife too)
- brightness seems to be quite low, for the same perceived level I need to configure A3 ~70%, A1 ~50%. I can't imagine using minimum brightness in real life (the same goes with A1), it's barely visible. Need to compare both phones in strong light / outdoors.
- PWM does not flicker at any brightness level
Overall, I would definitely prefer 1080 AMOLED over 720 AMOLED. 720 AMOLED vs. 1080 LCD is a tough call. I'm still debating myself whether I should switch from A1 to A3. I really like the form factor, responsiveness, absolutely clear audio output, 128gb storage, file based encryption and the feel of A3. Non existing "Mi A3 PRO" (Mi CC9) would be a better choice, though bigger form factor is definitely less comfortable for one hand usage (the main reason why I want to replace A1). Decisions, decisions..
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Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.

peterf81 said:
Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Oookey..well noted, thanks! I will update the review as soon as she's blind.

peterf81 said:
Stop giving reviews after "playing a few hours" with the gadget. Your wife will be blind soon, but then you will not update your review. This phone can cause blindness. You have been warned.
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Lmao this guy man. He's been spreading literally nothing but hate on every thread. What a sad little man.

bibekmufc said:
Lmao this guy man. He's been spreading literally nothing but hate on every thread. What a sad little man.
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Don't listen to ppl trying to downplay this issue, or you end up with a smartphone that has the worst display in the history and eye damage.

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Don't listen to ppl trying to downplay this issue, or you end up with a smartphone that has the worst display in the history and eye damage.
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Dude, I had even "worse" display few years back (Huawei P1) - pentile AMOLED with 256ppi (vs. 286ppi on A3). I was using it for about 2 years and I did not go blind. Don't generalize your personal health issues, there are thousands of A3 phones in use, yet I found only ONE health complaint. If it was that serious as you claim, some people couldn't pass the opportunity for a nice law suite. It should be a no-brainer to prove it.

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Dude, I had even "worse" display few years back (Huawei P1) - pentile AMOLED with 256ppi (vs. 286ppi on A3). I was using it for about 2 years and I did not go blind. Don't generalize your personal health issues, there are thousands of A3 phones in use, yet I found only ONE health complaint. If it was that serious as you claim, some people couldn't pass the opportunity for a nice law suite. It should be a no-brainer to prove it.
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You are throwing around numbers and comparing. I am giving first hand experience. Again, I have to repeat myself, there is something very wrong with this display, maybe the combination pwm+pentile+low resolution+something else? that is causing massive eye strain.