I've been taking a look to the recent reviews and I can appreciate lots of lens flare probably when shooting directly to sun and at night caused by streetlights.
Is a big problem in normal usage? Do you think it can be fixed by software?
It is hard to correct entirely post editing as it washes out information. By adjusting the contrast curve you can get the best of what's there.
Flare control is difficult especially with no lense hood.
It's an optical phenomenon that has to do with the len(s). Having no physical aperture doesn't help either.
Sometimes you can use it for unusual effects.
With some of the high dollar L lens you can shoot into the setting sun or head lights and grab keepers, wide open. Just the lense cost more than this phone though and uses multiple optical elements to do it. You pay top dollar for state of the art flare control.
Do you think adding a skin like dbrand to the camera could alleviate the lens flare?
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Do you think adding a skin like dbrand to the camera could alleviate the lens flare?
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too slim
some cases wth thicker material may helpbut it would be minor
Maybe something like this...
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too slim
some cases wth thicker material may helpbut it would be minor
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Maybe something like this... View attachment 5441953
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Not near aggressive enough. It will do next to nothing for flare control.
You could make a crude hood out of a black plastic, paper, etc. It should roughly come out as far as the lense is wide.
Pro hoods are generally "notched" as well for the corner to provide maximum shielding but not cut off the corners.
antoniovj1 said:
I've been taking a look to the recent reviews and I can appreciate lots of lens flare probably when shooting directly to sun and at night caused by streetlights.
Is a big problem in normal usage? Do you think it can be fixed by software?
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I posted some snaps and do not see any lense flaring isues at all, obviously I do not take pics directly into sun or bright lights, because that will cause falre with any lens
Do you also have issues with those green dot in pictures with high(er) brightness? It is visible in all my sunset pictures and it totally destroys them. Thought at first that it was caused by my cam-display protection but this seems to be "normal"?!
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Do you also have issues with those green dot in pictures with high(er) brightness? It is visible in all my sunset pictures and it totally destroys them. Though at first that it was caused by my cam-display protection but this seems to be "normal"?!
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Those dots are the sun's reflection between optical elements and the sensor... normal.
Adding an aftermarket lense protector can cause it or add the collection
You'll see this in many films, even very expensive optics do this. The color is that of the optical coating used. Post edit it out if you wish.
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Do you also have issues with those green dot in pictures with high(er) brightness? It is visible in all my sunset pictures and it totally destroys them. Thought at first that it was caused by my cam-display protection but this seems to be "normal"?!
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Lens flare is pretty normal when you point your camera directly into the sun. It can also happen with regular cameras and when the sun is a little of center. You can try to help the situation by providing shade with your hand (thereby simulating a lens hood).
stroke55 said:
Do you also have issues with those green dot in pictures with high(er) brightness? It is visible in all my sunset pictures and it totally destroys them. Thought at first that it was caused by my cam-display protection but this seems to be "normal"?!
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use magic eraser
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Stumbled on this video today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K0p-73vL1Q
Tried removing lens protection myself, really improved image quality A LOT!
Maybe there are some similar tricks to make HTC Desires camera even better?
nice find, it certainly improves quality, depending on how abused your camera cover is
It has protection for a reason.
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It has protection for a reason.
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A "protection" that needs another protection to work...
Removed and it doesn't seem that this "protection" did anything at all besides f*cking up photos and videos..
It wasn't even scratched, abused...
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Tried myself, and you are totally right, quality is much better.
Would this not cause a problem by bits and things going inside thru the hole?
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Would this not cause a problem by bits and things going inside thru the hole?
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Nope, it's even better because it's hard to touch camera lenses or dirt to come through tiny hole lite that.
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Nope, it's even better because it's hard to touch camera lenses or dirt to come through tiny hole lite that.
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Still, I prefer to leave it on and just remove the battery cover when i want to take a good picture.
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The htc hero doesn't have this stupid cover, I removed mine a couple of months after a bought my phone. It does nothing but good!
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A while ago I read somewhere that you could greatly improve your photographs by removing the small plastic lens cover on your Desire (as suggested above) and replacing it with a cut-out from a photographer's lens filter - these can be really cheap (less than £5 for a 77mm diameter UV filter) and can be cut into several lens-cover-sized pieces. If you get a scratch, you just replace it.
It could also do some interesting things for your photographs, especially if you experimented with different filter effects - polarising, UV, ND etc... could be good fun if you're feeling artistic.
I removed my plastic lens cover a couple of weeks ago, phone spends most of it time in my pocket. No dust build up, and images are so much clearer.
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Before you take the lens out try polishing with Displex or similar. Mine was badly scratched and there seems to be a layer of lacquer or something like that that can be removed by polishing.
This has been mentioned elsewhere in the Forum but if you are planning to knock out the lens anyway try it first.
why bother.. Just order a replacement and pop plastic thingy on the old one.
It does seem to have some coating. There's no scratches on mine, but looking through it, it's awful - explains why the camera can be so bad.
Is there a difference in picture quality on different roms, i.e. sense vs. aosp-roms like oxygen?
I had heard that it improved the quality but taking the case off everytime I wanted to take a picture wasn't something I wanted to do but after seeing those comparison shots I had no idea it improved it that much, will definitely go experiment with that.
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Is there a difference in picture quality on different roms, i.e. sense vs. aosp-roms like oxygen?
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yes, Open Desire 3.x is probably one of the better few. Has a lot more camera settings, better auto white balance and autofocus in video mode. 720p recording of course too. Though it's a pretty old ROM based on Android 2.2.
On the other hand, there is no ROMS with a decent camera app on Android 2.3 yet.
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yes, Open Desire 3.x is probably one of the better few. Has a lot more camera settings, better auto white balance and autofocus in video mode. 720p recording of course too. Though it's a pretty old ROM based on Android 2.2.
On the other hand, there is no ROMS with a decent camera app on Android 2.3 yet.
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It wasn't even scratched, abused...
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That's really a big difference...
I don't have a steady hand and I forgot to bring my tripod to work so the zoomed in pictures might look blurry. I'm pretty sure I could take a clear picture with the zoom lens if I used a tripod mount. I'm also going to mod my extended battery mod so I can glue on the metal adhesive ring and the black 8xzoom mount so I dont have to use the clear case it came with and don't have to worry about running out of batteries when I take pictures.
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Wide, Fisheye, Macro Lens
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GTR0R6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
8x Zoom Lens
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008VM7UVG/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Why does no one ever post where and how much these lenses are?
Can you share?
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Why does no one ever post where and how much these lenses are?
Can you share?
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Updated with links on bottom of first post.
How's the quality on the lenses?
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How's the quality on the lenses?
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The product quality is fine.Its not the greatest but definitely worth the money. The adhesive on the ring is a little weak so i had to use super glue to attach it to my battery cover. The picture quality is the same as if you had no lens on. I just couldnt keep a steady hand. The 8x zoom case feels sturdy but i wouldnt use it as an everyday case. I tried removing the black latch that holds onto the telescope to mod it onto my battery cover, and i broke it.. so ill be ordering a new one.
Got these. Not liking the fisheye that much but macro is simply amazing. Here are some pictures
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But just how should I be using the zoom lens?
I just got one of the 8x zoom lenses but not the fisheye. I'm wondering just how I'm supposed to use it--do I leave the camera's built-in zoom alone (i.e., leave it at 1x) and then just twist the adjuster on the zoom lens itself? I'm finding that I can't get a steady enough hand, even with "anti shake" on, to get any kind of decent shot.
i got something very similar to this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8x-Optical-...883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337f6a9a73
takes some modifying, but got it working with my otterbox defender case
I just spotted a very tiny black dot above the earpiece on the bezel (not the screen) on my note 2; like a mark left by the tip of someone's permanent marker at the China factory. It only looks prominent at particular viewing angles and lighting conditions. This might vary from device to device. Is this normal? Am I being too anal?
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I just spotted a very tiny black dot above the proximity sensor on the bezel (not the screen) on my note 2; like a mark left by the tip of someone's permanent marker at the China factory. It only looks prominent at particular viewing angles and lighting conditions. This might vary from device to device. Is this normal? Am I being too anal?
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picture? is it possible?
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It looks smaller than you think. (between edge of bezel and glass), if you reflect your own Note 2 in the light you might notice somewhat of the same
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Its not too prominent in cases like the following below---
It's hardly distinguishable.
Please let me know.
I see what you mean... well I have the I317 and the T889 (AT&T and T-Mo Note 2) non show that kind of marks... but... the I317 when using an app like "dead pixel test" when I put the screen black... I see some dark spots, lines in the screen... really strange... only noticeable on very dark screen... is like your description... like a black marker on the backside of the LCD... you will never see it unless you have your screen completely black an know what you are looking for...)
Well, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the bezel. My AMOLED display is perfect, no blobs, lines, vertical / horizontal lines, no tint whatsoever; I am extremely happy seeing a flawless display compared to many Note 2 Verizon and AT&T owners that complained about the dark spots you are talking about. I don't have them at all.
I just have a tiny mark on my bezel which appears to look like it was done by a permanent marker. I don't see any dent. I don't know if this mark is an imperfection, or if I am just being too anal. What do you all think?
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I see what you mean... well I have the I317 and the T889 (AT&T and T-Mo Note 2) non show that kind of marks... but... the I317 when using an app like "dead pixel test" when I put the screen black... I see some dark spots, lines in the screen... really strange... only noticeable on very dark screen... is like your description... like a black marker on the backside of the LCD... you will never see it unless you have your screen completely black an know what you are looking for...)
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Lol, sorry for any misunderstanding, no attitude intended. I bolded the word bezel in my last post because it seemed like you were talking about the display in respect to my device, lol.
Could it be that I am being too picky about a tiny mark?
I have the same thing on the top left bezel and on the right side bezel. But I really can't tell weather it is an imperfection, indentation or what. But like you said its only visible under certain lighting and at certain angles. But since I am OCD, it just drives me crazy knowing that they are there. I'll probably end up getting some kind of case that has a thick lip to cover the bezel area (the Seidio Active case) just so I will not be able to see those spots when using the phone.
Thank you very much for your acknowledgement. Its safe to say this is normal then. It doesn't seem to be an imperfection. There is no dent, and I can see the chrome in those areas as well. May be a little bit too much chrome. These plastic phones definitely deserve a case, no doubt. :good:
looks like other XDA members are more concerned of the phone's performance over aesthetics, lol,
Cheers
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I have the same thing on the top left bezel and on the right side bezel. But I really can't tell weather it is an imperfection, indentation or what. But like you said its only visible under certain lighting and at certain angles. But since I am OCD, it just drives me crazy knowing that they are there. I'll probably end up getting some kind of case that has a thick lip to cover the bezel area (the Seidio Active case) just so I will not be able to see those spots when using the phone.
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I don't know if this issue has been brought up yet or not, but I have an odd bug. When using the 13MP shooter, the picture looks extremely grainy and the blacks are more like grays. The line of trees around our house don't look black, they look an ashy smoke grey. And the grainy-ness is so bad it almost looks distorted at certain points that my son was walking around.
And yet when taking "selfies" the front camera produces crystal clear, beautiful pictures. It seems like it should be the other way around.
Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this or if I need to return this to TMO and get a replacement?
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I don't know if this issue has been brought up yet or not, but I have an odd bug. When using the 13MP shooter, the picture looks extremely grainy and the blacks are more like grays. The line of trees around our house don't look black, they look an ashy smoke grey. And the grainy-ness is so bad it almost looks distorted at certain points that my son was walking around.
And yet when taking "selfies" the front camera produces crystal clear, beautiful pictures. It seems like it should be the other way around.
Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this or if I need to return this to TMO and get a replacement?
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Any samples pictures to know what exactly you're talking about?
But from what it sounds like, get a replacement, i have no such issues.
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My selfie camera looks like crap and is slow inside with low lighting.. grainy and bright. The rear does better, but still bad. Outside both are great. Lighting is huge with this camera.
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Any samples pictures to know what exactly you're talking about?
But from what it sounds like, get a replacement, i have no such issues.
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Here's a sample picture that shows the blacks as the greys. Can't tell much about the grainy/pixelated part from this picture, but it gives you the idea.
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When I broke the camera lens cover on my G2, I installed a replacement. After installing the replacement my pictures were like the one posted here.
Upon closer inspection I noticed a plastic removable film on the lens cover. When I took it off the pictures were great..
Check and make sure you don't have a protective plastic film left on your lens cover.
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Here's a sample picture that shows the blacks as the greys. Can't tell much about the grainy/pixelated part from this picture, but it gives you the idea.
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When I broke the camera lens cover on my G2, I installed a replacement. After installing the replacement my pictures were like the one posted here.
Upon closer inspection I noticed a plastic removable film on the lens cover. When I took it off the pictures were great..
Check and make sure you don't have a protective plastic film left on your lens cover.
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Good suggestion, but there is no plastic film covering the camera. I'm fairly certain if I take it into TMO they will just exchange it. Might just go for that and see if it helps.
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I purchased the lm-g710emw lg g7 india yesterday and immediately received fota update. I am not sure but i think i checked the wide angle lens before applying fota and it was working fine. Now i can see the normal lens is working fine but the wide angle lens is out of focus and blurry. No physical cover over lens. I did all usual factory reset start as new then deleting app preferences app data cache and even tried error recovery iin lg bridge pc app. Still problem persist. Tried gcam mod too wide angle is out of focus. Online retailer says refund as phone out of stock ..lg says take to service centre. Is using bridge to error recover different from firmware flashing through lg up? Should i give that a try or does it look like hardware issue?
no joy with flashing firmware by lg up, hardware issue it seems then, should i get refund or bother going to service centre
Wide angle camera don't have focus. The blur has nothing to do with it having no auto focus
It's because it's only 16Mpix
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While the wide angle lens doesn't have focus this much blur shouldn't happen at all. Return it and use your warranty.
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While the wide angle lens doesn't have focus this much blur shouldn't happen at all
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In low light? Yes, it should. Because it has not enough light for its work. Mate 20 pro wide angle will shoot with same blurry quality in such conditions
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Just to find out the next unit's wide angle will shoot the same?
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You have HDR set ON in camera settings?
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In low light? Yes, it should. Because it has not enough light for its work. Mate 20 pro wide angle will shoot with same blurry quality in such conditions
Just to find out the next unit's wide angle will shoot the same?
You have HDR set ON in camera settings?
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It won't do such thing on HDR (there will be double or drag effect) and the wide angle and the normal camera is pretty much the same model so the light performance is pretty much the same (but the wide with a wide lens).
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so the light performance is pretty much the same
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Except wide angle has F/1.9 vs F/1.6. It means it gives 35% less light to sensor.
Pretty HEFTY amount for low light conditions, I guess. You agree?
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(but the wide with a wide lens)
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Yeah. So, don't you understand then that you can't get more detailed or even same amount of detail when you have equal sized sensor but you map on it wider angle of view? You will definitely get less detailed hence more blurry photos. It's obvious. Couple it with 35% less light put through a lens and it's obvious that in low lights wide angles shots MUST come out blurry
Until we'll have 20Mpix or 24Mpix sensors with 1.22mkm pixels coupled with F/1.4 aperture lens. Than it's be nice and detailed wide angle pix even in low light. But until then wide angle is only good in sunlight conditions but not indoors
Got my replacement set today and everything is fine on this one. Went to lg service to but they only had one service centre with water proofing machine working thats far from my home. So had to push mmy online seller really hard for a replacemnt set..lg service guy said looked like lens had moved a bit..sample of same corner of room at same sort of light
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