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A couple of hours ago, my phone shut down due to empty battery. I came home, plugged it in and booted it, all was fine. At about 60% I shut it off and went to have lunch, when I came back and tried to turn it on, I couldn't.
Led was orange at the time, I unplugged the power cord but the led stayed on! I removed the battery to be able to reboot it, but when I re-inserted it I still wouldn't boot.
Now no matter how I try to charge it, led stays off like it's not charging. Tried various different cables/chargers, the same. Tried to plug it to the charger without battery but no led flashed. Tried to boot without sim/sd card, still the same.
Any ideas?
My battery has never been changed (for a year now) and has had a bunch of full drains. Could this be a dead battery? :/
Well seems the phone is fried... I tried two more official batteries and no go...
Sorry to hear it. I thought that at first when I read your thread but I thought because I am not the most experienced person here, there might be some kind of fix.
HTC will most likely if not certainly replace this handset for you, seeing as it just happened out of the blue.
Well I certainly hope so, problem is I suspect it's an import (from another European country) and local HTC service generally does not do well with European imports.
Anyway I'll give it a try, meanwhile I'm getting a sensation soon
I have a similar problem.
I'm lucky that my girlfriend has the same handset as I do, the I could compare the phone abnormal behavior tho that of her properly working phone.
The first thing I've noticed, after a while when the charger was attached, was that the phone is very hot and that the battery keeps draining out in a surprisingly high rate.
After a while I've noticed that even when the phone is turned off it wont recharge. Sometimes the Orange LED is on when recharging while it is off, and the LED stays on for a few seconds after removing the charger, as if it was still charging. Note that the affects of connecting the charger to the phone, are mainly the ones listed below (not necessarily altogether)
* The phone indicates as if it recharges.
* Going to an infinite loop of rebooting and crashing.
* Getting hot when power supply is plugged, or at any time when the phone is turned on.
Ultimately the battery was empty, and the only way I had to keep using the phone (mostly to diagnose the symptoms listed here) was to swap the battery with the one of my girlfriend's device, and charge my battery in her device while using her's. That's the place to mention that the battery works just fine and that the phone is draining any battery, no matter what.
I took it apart to have a closer look at the source of all of the heat emitted while the phone is turned on, and it seem to come from the motherboard itself.
That's all I have.
The worst thing is that a friend of mine who helped me opening it up broke the pcb of the volume keys. Now I checked and It turns out that that pcb is actually part of the flex cable, which sort of extension of the motherboard and is mainly the second most important piece of hardware of all the phone parts (not that there are so many). If I would be able to expose the conductors inside the flat cable I might be able to solder an alternative volume pad I'll make out of old some miniature switches I have. The cable is very thin. any Ideas of how to expose the relevant conductors without ripping the cable apart?
Just a (late) update:
It's been almost two years, I had given the phone to a close friend of mine after a couple of weeks since writing the first post, just in case he could resurrect it, nothing.
Then, a couple of months down the road, the phone suddenly woke up! He tried to connect it with the charger, after months of not being able to charge or boot it up and somehow it worked. And it has been working flawlessly ever since.
I just got it back to give to my girlfriend until her sensation is fixed, flashing Viper now
In case something like this happens to any of you, don't give up!
Hello everyone,
I've been trying to pin down a problem with my AT&T GS3 for the last few days and I can't really find anyone describing quite the same symptoms (or maybe I'm slow and missed something somewhere). The problem seems to be that my phone isn't recognizing the battery has a full charge more often than not. It started a few days ago and seems to have gotten worse, as in when I first noticed the problem my phone would still turn on for brief periods of time before failing to 'see' a charge > 0% and then dying. Right now, it just powers up ever so briefly- sometimes it'll just die after it says Samsung or briefly into the boot screen.
Today, I took it apart to inspect the motherboard and connections but I didn't see anything obvious like broken connections or burny, burny components, but idk, everything is small and I didn't have a microscope. I wish I had looked closer at the power IC chip and stuff like that but I'm blind and probably wouldn't have seen anything anyway unless it was super obvious.
Occasionally, instead of showing a sad empty battery when I power it on (plugged in), it'll show 100% like I would expect and it would get slightly further into the boot sequence before dying again and go back to showing empty and making me very sad and confused. I can almost swear this happens more often when I'm holding it a certain way or whatnot. One other thing I noticed is that when this first happened, my battery was about 32% and after a while of 'charging' it would show 86% when I got the 'correct' battery charge to display... next instance was 94%, then 99% and finally 100%... so I can only assume the battery is somehow charging but the phone just hasn't gotten the memo. I bought another battery (OEM) and tried to no avail, so I assume it's not the battery. I've tried multiple chargers and no luck there either.
So, has anyone ever seen anything like this? And if so, do you think it's the power IC, the capacitor in that circuit, or something else that I'm not thinking of entirely? I see that there's 4 battery pins/terminals/whatever and after internet'ing around a bit about phone batteries, it seems that 2 are the normal pos/neg (obvs), one is a thermistor for temperature, and one 'talks' to the phone to tell it all about the battery's voltage, charge, etc because the old way of indicating charge was kinda shoddy apparently. I'm definitely suspecting something to do with that last thing too, but I have no idea what part of the circuit that is.
Any sage wisdom here would be very, very appreciated and thank you in advance.
P.S.
I have some background working with electronics, but not electronics for ants, if that helps at all.
Done / Fixed
Never found out what was wrong with the motherboard but I did buy a GS3 w/ a broken screen off eBay to do the fix for cheap.
$100 (broken phone) - $65 (resale of parts) + unscrewing/rescrewing 10 tiny screws + detaching/reattaching some cute ribbon cables = phone worky worky
If you have an S3 or similarly easy to disassemble phone, I'd highly recommend doing some research and ebay scrounging before dropping a metric crapload of cash on a expensive repair or replacement.
Okay, gonna try and explain this as best I can, bear with me.
2.5 years ago or something I got a Gnex from Verizon, brand new. The phone would act like a ghost was using it, like someone was interacting with the touchscreen. It'd randomly call contacts, send texts (random letters/numbers), all kinds of weird stuff. Video of it on day 1 HERE doing this. Took it into Verizon, got a new replacement. Never had the problem again. 2 or so years go by, not a single problem, unlocked, flash, all that, never had the problem again.
About a month ago, I upgraded to a Moto X and passed this phone on to a family member. At the time was running the latest stable Cyanogenmod ROM, the last for JB. 10.2 maybe? Anyway, that's what ROM was on it, again, no problems. Factory reset the phone to wipe my stuff, left it rooted and unlocked. I gave them the phone, battery, extended battery, and a few cases as well, no charger cause I know they'd twist up and destroy the factory cable. Setting the phone up for them battery starts going low, used their charger. Cable had shorts and crap, scavenged around looking for good charger. Get phone set up for them, and I'm done, handed off.
A day later, they're complaining that the phone is going crazy, like a ghost is using it, and it's randomly calling people, sending texts, opening menus, not charging, etc. Sounds like EXACT same issue I had with my very first Gnex that I exchanged. Figured that was really strange, maybe it was the software. Factory reset to latest factory image 4.2.2, lock BL back up, completely bone stock. Re-setup phone and all that jazz. Phone's acting fine. Decided this time that'd I'd let them have the original stock charger, thinking maybe that'd help with the charging issues too. All seems well....
However, during the reset and all, and after re-setting up the phone, battery is low.... plug it in with a known good charger of mine, but not stock original, and all the sudden the phone's freaking out again. Turn screen off, turns itself back on. Dialing people, opening apps on its own, etc. Figure maybe this Gnex just won't take any charger except it's original. Pull battery, reboot, phone's fine, fine for 10+ minutes. Plug in OEM charger this time, wait a few seconds, unplug, phone goes crazy.
Also interesting, they brought another charger of theirs with a little red LED on, plug it into wall, red LED comes on. Interestingly, if the charger is unplugged from wall with red LED off and I plug it into the phone.... the red LED on the wall charger turns on... that's not right. So.... here's where I'm at now. If I pull battery, reboot, and never attach a charger, the phone acts perfectly fine. The instant I plug in ANY charger, it'll start going wacko and continue to until I pull battery and reboot. At first I thought this was a charger issue, but now... I'm thinking it's battery related. This little experiment of getting the phone to go crazy after plugging in a charger applies to both the OEM and extended battery, regardless of what charger I use.
When I owned the phone, I almost exclusively used the OEM charger, occasionally another charger I had that I know works fine. Gave Gnex to family member WITHOUT a charger, so they were forced to use who know what condition phone charger. I'm wondering if maybe some rogue jacked up phone charger with shorts in it and crap somehow killed the extended battery. Then, they switched to the OEM battery, and again, unknowingly killed that battery too with the same crap charger. So maybe buying a new battery would fix the issue and only using the OEM charger from now on or the other one that was mine that I know works? Or maybe the phone is just broken now? It just doesn't seem right that plugging a phone into the micro-USB should turn ON the red LED on the charger when it's not plugged into the wall, like the power is coming out of phone and going into the LED...
I just refuse to believe that on the exact same day and within hours of me upgrading to a Moto X and passing on my Gnex that had worked perfectly for 2 years in my possession somehow just happens to "break" or "go bad" on its own. Thought it was software glitch/bug in CM, no. Thought it was incompatible charger, no. Maybe the batteries are bad? Maybe the phone's circuitry got jacked up too? Just seems weird that, as far as I can tell, pulling the battery and rebooting fixes it for good until the battery dies. Within 30 seconds of connecting a charger, the phone goes bonkers.
Any ideas? Feel bad, family member probably thinks I dumped a bad phone on them!
Thanks!
What kind of sorcery was that? I honestly don't know what to say about this other than bad timing? I highly doubt a ghost is possessing the phone.
I know a ghost isn't possessing the phone, I just, that's how I best described it when it was going wacko by itself. Plus, interesting topic title, maybe get a few more people to read it and maybe offer some advice or info or something :laugh:
However, I do have a ghost in my house, or a spirit or something. I've seen him, sitting on my couch before. He died in a fire, smoke inhalation, no smoke alarms in the house. House was sold, completely rebuilt, and I am first to live in it since then. Crazy story for a different forum lol
From what I can see, it's just that the screen isn't working properly because of leaked currents from the battery or the charger... Just get the whole screen replaced (it's hard to only replace the glass layer) and should be fine.
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Leaking currents, had it happen to me before from a bad charger. I doubt it's the battery, try an outlet in a different house, they may have bad power.
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So this "leaking currents" problem, it's a problem with the battery? A problem with the phone, in particular, the screen? It definitely sounds like a rogue bad charger could have done this based on the feedback so far. The "damage" or whatever happened at their house. Just the other night, they brought the chargers and phone and stuff to my house, a different house, problem persisted. So I'm not thinking it's a dirty power issue or anything.
...and so you should have the screen replaced. I've had Motorola and HTC phones with issues responding to touches when charging, and replacing the screen largely eased the problem (although I still ended up getting a new charger because I don't want it to also damage the newly replaced screen).
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Op may also want to consider relocating... ghost home and ghost phone, that's too much!
LOL
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So this "leaking currents" problem, it's a problem with the battery? A problem with the phone, in particular, the screen? It definitely sounds like a rogue bad charger could have done this based on the feedback so far. The "damage" or whatever happened at their house. Just the other night, they brought the chargers and phone and stuff to my house, a different house, problem persisted. So I'm not thinking it's a dirty power issue or anything.
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Could be the battery, could be the USB cables or chargers, could be the USB port on the device, could be the screen. The fact that it only happens when plugged in but with more than one charger and battery makes me suspect the USB port on the device. From my understanding you can buy a replacement. A temporary fix would be to use a charger that charges the battery outside of the phone.
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No ghost... i think
I think its because the charger you use....
I had the same problem, but not with gnx... before gnx I used galaxy i5801...
when I put my mobile in charge, my mobile did some crazy things, like operating itself,...I figured out that the charger I used is not the one I shouldn't use.
every mobile has a charging limits, like voltage restriction..
little difference in voltage could make big difference.
so I changed the charger. problem solved for me.
other than charger.. there are some things can do this, I don't know about all.
I doubt it may caused by your digitizer...maybe is has too much sensitivity, caused by water, dust, pressure, etc....
digitizer and display are not the same.
I faced this one too ( galaxy i5801) before charging problem, but not with gnx.
A digitizer is the part of a touch screen that senses your touch and "digitizes" your gestures into impulses that the phone can understand as commands.
if it continues my last suggestion.... call the priest
Well, I borrowed an OEM standard and extended battery from a friend, neither fixed the problem. My friend did say that similar to my first Gnex, when he first got his, it did the same exact thing, but after a while it stopped and it hasn't done it ever since. I also narrowed it down, or, widened the issue, in that it's not just AC chargers, the exact same stuff happens with a brand new 12V car charger.
Dirty power on the fifth rail of a USB wire. Its either the charger not supplying enough power or a damaged cable.
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My vote is on the screen, due to the digitiser. Replacing the touchscreen could help solve the problem. I was in your family's position when I got a used Motorola Cliq from a friend and the battery was all good, no leaks. Ghosts just started touching it everywhere like a crazed groupie when it went into my possession. No explanation as to why it happened and I didn't look into it that much but replacing the screen is the most likely solution.
Ok so a little of background story, if you don't care about it just skip to the next paragraph. I bought my T989 over the internet, it was working perfectly. I wanted to make the most of it, rooted it and tried Swapper 2, which hard bricked my phone. I'm not new to rooting, I've rooted some phones now, but I had never tried swapper, I liked the idea of unoccuping some RAM memory. Apparently I did something to my boot sequence thing and my phone was dead. I still had waranty on the phone (one week left when that happened so it is suspicious to anyone) so I called. After one hour of arguing over the phone and trying to convince them it wasn't my fault, which of course I knew it was, they decided to send me a new one... ahem "new" one.
Ok so here's where the priblem start. My "new" phone was working alright untill it stopped charging, didn't work AT ALL. I took a peek and one of the pins on my phone was bent, it was upwarda and as I tried to get it back to its place it fell off. I took my phone to get the MicroUSB replaced andsure enough they did.
My phone was charging again correctly. It was doing great untill it stated to charge slower and slower. It got to the point where it just shows as charging, but doesn't charge at all.
I've tried everything, I bought a new original Samsung battery, still same issue. I downloaded an app to tell me the amps the cellphone was pulling and it shows 350-450 when I have read it needs minimum 600. I have tried custom roms, kernels and nope, still pulling 400, tried LG chargers, Motorola chargers, a SAMSUNG S3 charger and still no luck. The thing they all have in common is that they're USB chargers so I read if the cellphone detects it as such it would give me a hard time.I've tried making a fast charge USB cable with a video on Youtube but it still only charges 400 mAmps. I've installed custom kernels with the "USB fast charge" and STILL no luck.
The ONLY thing I haven't tried is using and ORIGINAL, Samsung wall charger but at this point, I think it won't fix my problem because of the fact that I remember it worked well in the beggining. I am currently charging both batteries with a Universal Battery charger, but I've read that they wear out batteries throughout time.
So, is there another thing I haven't tried... or is my cellphone doomed now? I believe that it's the phone, as in the mother board if I can call it that, or does anybody have another theory?
Thanks for your time, would love to see anyone suggest
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Ok so a little of background story, if you don't care about it just skip to the next paragraph. I bought my T989 over the internet, it was working perfectly. I wanted to make the most of it, rooted it and tried Swapper 2, which hard bricked my phone. I'm not new to rooting, I've rooted some phones now, but I had never tried swapper, I liked the idea of unoccuping some RAM memory. Apparently I did something to my boot sequence thing and my phone was dead. I still had waranty on the phone (one week left when that happened so it is suspicious to anyone) so I called. After one hour of arguing over the phone and trying to convince them it wasn't my fault, which of course I knew it was, they decided to send me a new one... ahem "new" one.
Ok so here's where the priblem start. My "new" phone was working alright untill it stopped charging, didn't work AT ALL. I took a peek and one of the pins on my phone was bent, it was upwarda and as I tried to get it back to its place it fell off. I took my phone to get the MicroUSB replaced andsure enough they did.
My phone was charging again correctly. It was doing great untill it stated to charge slower and slower. It got to the point where it just shows as charging, but doesn't charge at all.
I've tried everything, I bought a new original Samsung battery, still same issue. I downloaded an app to tell me the amps the cellphone was pulling and it shows 350-450 when I have read it needs minimum 600. I have tried custom roms, kernels and nope, still pulling 400, tried LG chargers, Motorola chargers, a SAMSUNG S3 charger and still no luck. The thing they all have in common is that they're USB chargers so I read if the cellphone detects it as such it would give me a hard time.I've tried making a fast charge USB cable with a video on Youtube but it still only charges 400 mAmps. I've installed custom kernels with the "USB fast charge" and STILL no luck.
The ONLY thing I haven't tried is using and ORIGINAL, Samsung wall charger but at this point, I think it won't fix my problem because of the fact that I remember it worked well in the beggining. I am currently charging both batteries with a Universal Battery charger, but I've read that they wear out batteries throughout time.
So, is there another thing I haven't tried... or is my cellphone doomed now? I believe that it's the phone, as in the mother board if I can call it that, or does anybody have another theory?
Thanks for your time, would love to see anyone suggest
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I know this isn't an answer but a general comment. This is a good reason why I will NEVER buy electronics that are used or from a retailer that isn't a big name. I don't care what the seller says there is just really no way to know exactly what you are getting. If you had bought this phone from Amazon (direct) you could have already got another one by now with no arguments. I'd be looking for another phone and call it a loss.
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I know this isn't an answer but a general comment. This is a good reason why I will NEVER buy electronics that are used or from a retailer that isn't a big name. I don't care what the seller says there is just really no way to know exactly what you are getting. If you had bought this phone from Amazon (direct) you could have already got another one by now with no arguments. I'd be looking for another phone and call it a loss.
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Thanks dude, I know it really matters on where you buy it, but the price was just so handsome to me. I guess that's what I get and as things like this happen you learn more and more on what you buy and what you decide to do with them. I guess I already consider it as a loss but I'm aware that it's not unusable yet. I guess I will continue to charge both my batteries with the charger, but I was just curious to know what really happened to the phone to avoid things like this in the future
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Thanks dude, I know it really matters on where you buy it, but the price was just so handsome to me. I guess that's what I get and as things like this happen you learn more and more on what you buy and what you decide to do with them. I guess I already consider it as a loss but I'm aware that it's not unusable yet. I guess I will continue to charge both my batteries with the charger, but I was just curious to know what really happened to the phone to avoid things like this in the future
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What apps do you all have installed on your phone and running while you are charging it? Try making a full backup then do a clean install of your ROM (backup just in case this doesn't fix it). After doing this do NOT install any apps, just test charging. If charging works, it is some app on your phone. I know those "battery saving" apps can eat up a lot of battery if configured wrong. And if you have a lot of background apps running, they can eat your battery without you knowing and reduce charging time.
Go into settings->device and check what is eating up your battery there before charging and during charging.
If you don't want to re-install your ROM, try charging your phone with the screen off (no screensaver (daydream) or nothing, just screen off, charging) and in airplane mode. I recommend doing a clean install to see if it is some apps (you can use TB to back everything up, then do the clean install and test from there).
bmg002 said:
What apps do you all have installed on your phone and running while you are charging it? Try making a full backup then do a clean install of your ROM (backup just in case this doesn't fix it). After doing this do NOT install any apps, just test charging. If charging works, it is some app on your phone. I know those "battery saving" apps can eat up a lot of battery if configured wrong. And if you have a lot of background apps running, they can eat your battery without you knowing and reduce charging time.
Go into settings->device and check what is eating up your battery there before charging and during charging.
If you don't want to re-install your ROM, try charging your phone with the screen off (no screensaver (daydream) or nothing, just screen off, charging) and in airplane mode. I recommend doing a clean install to see if it is some apps (you can use TB to back everything up, then do the clean install and test from there).
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The ROM I currently have has a great battery saving mode, I also have "Advanced Task Killer" to kill any apps. It's the same issue. I want to buy a new charger but I still think that won't fix my problem. I've also charged in Airplane mode and no luck
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The ROM I currently have has a great battery saving mode, I also have "Advanced Task Killer" to kill any apps. It's the same issue. I want to buy a new charger but I still think that won't fix my problem. I've also charged in Airplane mode and no luck
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i would plug it to someone elses charger or buy one, had a ton of them fail-hope that helps
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Sorry didn't read good, you've already tried other chargers, ignore my ignorance
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ShaDisNX255 said:
The ROM I currently have has a great battery saving mode, I also have "Advanced Task Killer" to kill any apps. It's the same issue. I want to buy a new charger but I still think that won't fix my problem. I've also charged in Airplane mode and no luck
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Can you go into settings->Battery and post a screenshot of it? I'm curious as to what is eating up most of your battery.
After, I would still try doing a nandroid and flash your rom cleanly and install 0 apps and try charging on this clean install. I know my friend ended up getting some battery optimization app installed (which she claims she never installed, but it is on her phone) and her charging times were horrid. It also made the phone quite laggy. I imagine if you got 2 or so of these types of apps on your phone, it could eat your battery instead of charging it.
Also, when you charge it, it is a strict charging cable not a MHL adapter right? I know when I have my MHL cable hooked up to my phone it claims it is charging, but it actually drains the battery slowly. (MHL is micro USB -> HDMI).
Since you have tried multiple chargers and cables, I would be looking at the phone as being the problem. Also, look at the contacts on the bottom of the phone and look for any bent pins. I wouldn't try to fix that yourself, but if they are bent, I'd take it in for repair. those pins are very fragile once bent and can break off if not handled very carefully after they are bent.
If you can get into adb from your phone to PC, then the pins on your phone should be good and the USB cable should be good. Does it charge if you put it in fast charge and plug it into your PC?
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Can you go into settings->Battery and post a screenshot of it? I'm curious as to what is eating up most of your battery.
After, I would still try doing a nandroid and flash your rom cleanly and install 0 apps and try charging on this clean install. I know my friend ended up getting some battery optimization app installed (which she claims she never installed, but it is on her phone) and her charging times were horrid. It also made the phone quite laggy. I imagine if you got 2 or so of these types of apps on your phone, it could eat your battery instead of charging it.
Also, when you charge it, it is a strict charging cable not a MHL adapter right? I know when I have my MHL cable hooked up to my phone it claims it is charging, but it actually drains the battery slowly. (MHL is micro USB -> HDMI).
Since you have tried multiple chargers and cables, I would be looking at the phone as being the problem. Also, look at the contacts on the bottom of the phone and look for any bent pins. I wouldn't try to fix that yourself, but if they are bent, I'd take it in for repair. those pins are very fragile once bent and can break off if not handled very carefully after they are bent.
If you can get into adb from your phone to PC, then the pins on your phone should be good and the USB cable should be good. Does it charge if you put it in fast charge and plug it into your PC?
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The pins are alright. As I stated, I recently changed the MicroUSB port, well I paid somebody to do it and it was working fine at first but then stopped charging, well, not stopped charging actually. At first it started to charge slower and slower untill it got to the point that it just says it's charging but it doesn't charge. It COULD be to the fact that I flashed new ROMs, downloaded games and all but I doubt it since now I have a brand new ROM with no games (or not that many) and you can see from the screenshots I uploaded that nothing's eating my battery
Well except for my screen, I had it at 80% brightness lol. Usually I set the brightness at the lowest (no Auto brightness to save battery) and my wall paper is color black since I heard Samsung phones do save up battery with black since it doesn't light the LEDs or something like that.
And yes, it's strictly USB cable. When I activate "Fast charge" and if I connect the phone to the computer it just shows the notification "USB connected" for a second and then disapears.
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The pins are alright. As I stated, I recently changed the MicroUSB port, well I paid somebody to do it and it was working fine at first but then stopped charging, well, not stopped charging actually. At first it started to charge slower and slower untill it got to the point that it just says it's charging but it doesn't charge. It COULD be to the fact that I flashed new ROMs, downloaded games and all but I doubt it since now I have a brand new ROM with no games (or not that many) and you can see from the screenshots I uploaded that nothing's eating my battery
Well except for my screen, I had it at 80% brightness lol. Usually I set the brightness at the lowest (no Auto brightness to save battery) and my wall paper is color black since I heard Samsung phones do save up battery with black since it doesn't light the LEDs or something like that.
And yes, it's strictly USB cable. When I activate "Fast charge" and if I connect the phone to the computer it just shows the notification "USB connected" for a second and then disapears.
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the screenshots attached were helpful. I don't see anything in that list that looks like a huge battery sucker and since you say your rom is fairly fresh and clean, it likely isn't the apps. Are you sure the guy who swapped the microUSB port did it correctly? Improperly soldered pins (especially those tiny ones on a microUSB port) can be tricky to solder correctly if you don't have the correct tips. It could also be that something else got damaged while putting that on (if the capacitors were not properly discharged before replacing the microUSB port, they could have gotten damaged).
I think that your assessment that it is one of the boards (likely the charging circuit) got damaged. I'd go back to the guy who replaced the port and get him to check the charging board (specifically the capacitors) to see if there is any signs of damage or wear. Capacitors can get damaged really easily if the heat on the iron was set too high. I know I've damaged capacitors while soldering things before. Or it could be that the port didn't get a solid solder connection or ended up briding some pins. If fast charge is on, your PC shouldn't see a USB device being plugged in. If you have a multimeter, you could check the resistance on the 4 USB pins and see if any of the pins are bridged.
bmg002 said:
the screenshots attached were helpful. I don't see anything in that list that looks like a huge battery sucker and since you say your rom is fairly fresh and clean, it likely isn't the apps. Are you sure the guy who swapped the microUSB port did it correctly? Improperly soldered pins (especially those tiny ones on a microUSB port) can be tricky to solder correctly if you don't have the correct tips. It could also be that something else got damaged while putting that on (if the capacitors were not properly discharged before replacing the microUSB port, they could have gotten damaged).
I think that your assessment that it is one of the boards (likely the charging circuit) got damaged. I'd go back to the guy who replaced the port and get him to check the charging board (specifically the capacitors) to see if there is any signs of damage or wear. Capacitors can get damaged really easily if the heat on the iron was set too high. I know I've damaged capacitors while soldering things before. Or it could be that the port didn't get a solid solder connection or ended up briding some pins. If fast charge is on, your PC shouldn't see a USB device being plugged in. If you have a multimeter, you could check the resistance on the 4 USB pins and see if any of the pins are bridged.
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Well I took it to the guy from before and he couldn't find a problem with the phone's soldering, but even he wasn't sure what the problem was as if it's not his specialty. I do not have a multimeter :/
I was thinking taking it somewhere else and have them change my microUSB port to see if that other person might now a bit more. I'm sorry but I'm more of a software type of person, I clearly have no clue what the problem might be
THANK YOU for really helping me and taking your time to analyze my question, I really appreciate it thanks man
So if what you say is true, do you think it can still be fixed?
ShaDisNX255 said:
Well I took it to the guy from before and he couldn't find a problem with the phone's soldering, but even he wasn't sure what the problem was as if it's not his specialty. I do not have a multimeter :/
I was thinking taking it somewhere else and have them change my microUSB port to see if that other person might now a bit more. I'm sorry but I'm more of a software type of person, I clearly have no clue what the problem might be
THANK YOU for really helping me and taking your time to analyze my question, I really appreciate it thanks man
So if what you say is true, do you think it can still be fixed?
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It definitly can still be fixed, it'll just be tricky. If they are surface mount capacitors, which they likely are, it is hard to tell when they go.
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bmg002 said:
It definitly can still be fixed, it'll just be tricky. If they are surface mount capacitors, which they likely are, it is hard to tell when they go.
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So what I should tell them to do is to change the capacitors? I can leave the same miniUSB port right?
ShaDisNX255 said:
So what I should tell them to do is to change the capacitors? I can leave the same miniUSB port right?
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I would tell them the symptoms and let them tell you what they think should be fixed. In my mind it is likely the capacitors on the charging board that need replacing, but without having the hardware physically in front of me and hooked up to a multimeter, I cannot say for certain. It could be a faulty microUSB port or a bad pin (bridged or microfractured), could be damaged PCB trace, could be gremlins
I would bring it in somewhere or give it to somebody and tell them that the phone doesn't seem to be taking a charge and ask them if they can look at it. If it is still in warranty, send it to Samsung to get fixed. If it is outside of warranty, take it to somebody who knows their stuff (likely a professional repair shop OR somebody who does cell phone or PCB repair for a living... hobbyists may be able to fix it, but to me this sounds like something that somebody with training should likely look at).
Since you have tested different AC adapters (including known-good ones) and different cables (including known good ones) and charged the battery outside of the phone, that narrows the problem down to being something with the phone. You narrowed down it is likely not software related, so that leaves hardware. I know from experience soldering very small components can cause bridges quite easily; even when done by the pros. Some bridges don't matter, but it is better to avoid solder bridges whenever possible. I know I had to replace my nintendo DS slot-1 due to a busted pin and soldering that thing with a large iron was a pain in the behind. Got it all fixed, but it was not an easy task.
bmg002 said:
I would tell them the symptoms and let them tell you what they think should be fixed. In my mind it is likely the capacitors on the charging board that need replacing, but without having the hardware physically in front of me and hooked up to a multimeter, I cannot say for certain. It could be a faulty microUSB port or a bad pin (bridged or microfractured), could be damaged PCB trace, could be gremlins
I would bring it in somewhere or give it to somebody and tell them that the phone doesn't seem to be taking a charge and ask them if they can look at it. If it is still in warranty, send it to Samsung to get fixed. If it is outside of warranty, take it to somebody who knows their stuff (likely a professional repair shop OR somebody who does cell phone or PCB repair for a living... hobbyists may be able to fix it, but to me this sounds like something that somebody with training should likely look at).
Since you have tested different AC adapters (including known-good ones) and different cables (including known good ones) and charged the battery outside of the phone, that narrows the problem down to being something with the phone. You narrowed down it is likely not software related, so that leaves hardware. I know from experience soldering very small components can cause bridges quite easily; even when done by the pros. Some bridges don't matter, but it is better to avoid solder bridges whenever possible. I know I had to replace my nintendo DS slot-1 due to a busted pin and soldering that thing with a large iron was a pain in the behind. Got it all fixed, but it was not an easy task.
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This gives me new hope, I really don't mind charging my phone this way, but I'd rather have a complete phone with the ability to charge from a wall outlet
Thanks so much, I hope I can count on you if I run to anything else. And hey, you learn something new every day, ALL of this has been really helpful
ShaDisNX255 said:
This gives me new hope, I really don't mind charging my phone this way, but I'd rather have a complete phone with the ability to charge from a wall outlet
Thanks so much, I hope I can count on you if I run to anything else. And hey, you learn something new every day, ALL of this has been really helpful
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Glad I can help. I used to work professionally soldering tiny components before moving into IT. Done some hardware mod to a few cameras, repaired a ps2 controller, have an old tube amp going fix soon too. I've seen a lot of weird things happen with bad solder joints or faulty capacitors.
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Hi
Got a water damaged nexus 7 2013 over here, as soon as it was dropped in water, I turned it off and dried it off before taking it apart and letting it dry out. After putting everything back together the tablet worked wonderfully and the only remainder was a little bit of water under the touch screen and I think I made a big mistake by ignoring that.
After about a week, the battery was dead and needed to be charged, I plugged it in and the led blinked 5 times which is normal so I just left it. After coming back I noticed that the tablet was pretty hot near the cpu and of course, it refuses to turn on, it doesn't blink 5 times anymore, my computer doesn't beep anymore, it's totally dead.
Things I've tried so far:
Connecting it to my pc without battery and screen connected (I know it should blink 5 times as well if no battery is installed) and nothing
Trying to turn it on without daughter board connected (should still show google screen, I have done this before) and again, nothing
Trying to turn it on without screen or daughter board (I know I had a notification that made it beep when it turned on) and nothing
I took it apart again and noticed that the connector on the actual lcd was very corroded and I just assumed the screen was causing this but apparently something else is broken as well.
Anything I can do about this?
Thanks
Hi, I'm sorry to hear about this unfortunate accident.
Firstly an advice to anyone reading it -- in such situation, turning it off is not good enough and one must disconnect the battery ASAP! That's because the power switch is actually only like a standby control and unable to completely cut off power supply. While off, full power is still available to all mobo's voltage regulators as well as LCD's backlight converter and its local power regulator. And then accelerated water corrosion and damage starts...Remove all metal shields from the motherboard and clean up corrosion residues. The LCD is gone for sure, so test it out again with the mobo and peripheral boards only, looking for the notification light's blinks. If it works, check if you can get picture over SlimPort connection.
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Hi, I'm sorry to hear about this unfortunate accident.
Firstly an advice to anyone reading it -- in such situation, turning it off is not good enough and one must disconnect the battery ASAP! That's because the power switch is actually only like a standby control and unable to completely cut off power supply. While off, full power is still available to all mobo's voltage regulators as well as LCD's backlight converter and its local power regulator. And then accelerated water corrosion and damage starts...Remove all metal shields from the motherboard and clean up corrosion residues. The LCD is gone for sure, so test it out again with the mobo and peripheral boards only, looking for the notification light's blinks. If it works, check if you can get picture over SlimPort connection.
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I used a multi-meter to test the battery and the cells are @ 3.4V not sure if that's enough to turn the tablet on tough... I'm letting it charge for a while now to see if my computer picks it up
EDIT: the battery voltage when not connected to the board is 3.4V, the battery voltage when connected to the board is 0.34V. That can't be good
EDIT2: the cpu is mildly warm but the PM8921 battery management IC is burning hot after leaving it to charge for a while