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hey everyone... this is the first of a few posts i'm gonna make today. I haven't been on here in a little while and i got a bunch on my mind
anyway i have the opportunity to upgrade early on t-mobile, and i'm very seriously considering the note 3... my question is, how do you all feel about the s3 vs the note 3. would it be a HUGE update for me? obviously you can find plenty of s3 vs s4 comparisons on the net... s3 vs note 2 comparisons... and note 2 verse note 3 comparisons... but s3 vs note 3 is a totally different animal.
i'm looking for non-rooted STOCK performance. that's my #1 concern. if i wiped my s3 right now, sure it will run great for the first month or so, but it will slow down again once things have settled in, and i'm kind of ready for a more powerful device... but i'm wondering if i should just suck it up and wait until the inevitable s5 or some other phone that comes in 2014 (maybe even, although i doubt it, late 2013)... or just go ahead and get my upgrade going? i really dont want to root, as i've always found it's the same issues of "oh yea this is so amazingly fast!" and then 2 months later i've got problems and slowdown... rooting and installing roms is great for some people that like tinkering but just not for me.
again i'm not really looking to be able to play newer fancier games... although i'm sure i'll install and play plenty of games too... but i want performance... i don't ever want to be stuck in a situation where i just tapped the camera icon and i'm waiting 10 seconds for the camera to open... or even worse, get the "could not start the camera" notification and i have to reboot my phone. or when i click spotify and it takes 15 seconds to open. or i tap chrome and everything just freezes while it apparently tries to remember what website it last had open. you get the idea. i want stuff to load quick and fast and smooth and seamless.
what are your thoughts?
thanks!
polarbearmc said:
hey everyone... this is the first of a few posts i'm gonna make today. I haven't been on here in a little while and i got a bunch on my mind
anyway i have the opportunity to upgrade early on t-mobile, and i'm very seriously considering the note 3... my question is, how do you all feel about the s3 vs the note 3. would it be a HUGE update for me? obviously you can find plenty of s3 vs s4 comparisons on the net... s3 vs note 2 comparisons... and note 2 verse note 3 comparisons... but s3 vs note 3 is a totally different animal.
i'm looking for non-rooted STOCK performance. that's my #1 concern. if i wiped my s3 right now, sure it will run great for the first month or so, but it will slow down again once things have settled in, and i'm kind of ready for a more powerful device... but i'm wondering if i should just suck it up and wait until the inevitable s5 or some other phone that comes in 2014 (maybe even, although i doubt it, late 2013)... or just go ahead and get my upgrade going? i really dont want to root, as i've always found it's the same issues of "oh yea this is so amazingly fast!" and then 2 months later i've got problems and slowdown... rooting and installing roms is great for some people that like tinkering but just not for me.
again i'm not really looking to be able to play newer fancier games... although i'm sure i'll install and play plenty of games too... but i want performance... i don't ever want to be stuck in a situation where i just tapped the camera icon and i'm waiting 10 seconds for the camera to open... or even worse, get the "could not start the camera" notification and i have to reboot my phone. or when i click spotify and it takes 15 seconds to open. or i tap chrome and everything just freezes while it apparently tries to remember what website it last had open. you get the idea. i want stuff to load quick and fast and smooth and seamless.
what are your thoughts?
thanks!
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When the time comes for me to get a new phone, I'm buying it from the play store. Tired of TouchWiz, tired of no carrier updates, tired of the phones being locked down, tired of everything except Android itself.
Aerowinder said:
When the time comes for me to get a new phone, I'm buying it from the play store. Tired of TouchWiz, tired of no carrier updates, tired of the phones being locked down, tired of everything except Android itself.
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well to be honest the s3 has been updated way more than any other phone i've owned. and yea i'd love the next nexus, but what are the chances of a 32gb (or better yet 64gb) nexus? probably next to nothing. or one with sd support (also doubtful). so touchwiz it is cause 16gb is not gonna cut it this decade.
edit: oh and btw my mom has the nexus 4 with barely anything installed, the most recent update causes random reboots. awesome. yay for updates... haha. again i just want something that's gonna work really really good for a long time.
Please use the designated thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39191132 to discuss other devices and upgrades.
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Only reason I'm asking is because I am curious after watching MKBHD complain about the phone slowing down. In my opinion, I don't feel like there has been any problems. ?
fearfighters said:
Only reason I'm asking is because I am curious after watching MKBHD complain about the phone slowing down. In my opinion, I don't feel like there has been any problems. ?
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We are flashers, so will not keep phone without wiping for more than couple of months.. may be long term users might have slow down issues...
A few points:
1. Everything is relative.
Maybe the One Plus 6 is just so fast that the Pixel 2 XL feels slow?
I doubt it, but I also carry an Iphone 7 and that seems extremely slow compared to my Pixel 2 XL.
2. Software mods
MKHBD doesn't do much modding afaik, so he is also limited to the default software most of the time leaving often much to be desired.
One Plus uses a lot of time on software optimization also.
All said and done, I still think to say Pixel 2 XL is laggy or slow is borderline ridiculous at the moment.
I think he means it stutters alot more than the OnePlus 6, which makes sense. The OnePlus has a more powerful chip and much more ram.
I've only noticed dropped frames when I was using the Android p beta 2 , I could see the slowdowns, but with the latest update it has been nothing but butter.
There is some slow down.
Well to be honest my pixel 2xl hasn't slowed down completely but i do see stutters and lags while opening up camera and while switching between apps while multitasking. Im on stock 8.1 oreo and the only reason I'm not rooting it yet is coz I'm one of the unfortunate people who are stuck with bootloader locked Verizon pixel 2xls. And from my past experiences custom roms are more snappier than the stock ones.
I have a hard time believing that the P2XL stutters and drops more frames than the OP6. Looking at XDA's op6 performance and gaming review, it is clear that it has more jank and frame drops compared to the pixel. One thing that the oneplus 6 does outclass the pixel in is animation speed and all around snappiness. The way I have always seen it is oneplus devices are faster, but the pixel and pixel 2 are smoother. Imo, I'd prefer to have the smoothest phone than the fastest phone. That being said, the one slow down that I see on a daily basis is a delay between after I tap the home button and before the app close animation begins. Essentially there is a delay when closing apps. This does not happen in every app, usually apps that are either poorly optimized (snapchat) or apps that have a lot going on (chrome). Chrome and snapchat are the main apps that have this problem of taking longer than usual to close.
I thought some of the issues with Android Phone DP4 were that it introduced stutters and lag. At least, that's how it's been with mine. Another thing, though I don't think it's exclusive to the Pixel 2 is that whenever I put it to charge, or take it off Airplane Mode, for a minute or so, the phone becomes extremely laggy and unresponsive.
Mine is running great, smoother than my s9 plus
mine is speedy
only other phone rival it is when i put aosp on my s9+
I feel like there has been hiccups more often the first few months with the phone but I am on DP5. I plan on doing a factory restore when Android P stable gets released which is currently rumored to be August 20th. I usually do it at my one year with a phone anyway.
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Sort of yes,... But then again isn't it expected now that the Pixel 3 is around the corner?
We people complain about anything when ever the chance happen.. its just great phone few lagging doesn't bother. To be honest mine is just perfect
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I feel like there has been hiccups more often the first few months with the phone but I am on DP5. I plan on doing a factory restore when Android P stable gets released which is currently rumored to be August 20th. I usually do it at my one year with a phone anyway.
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Planning on do the same thing. Pretty excited for Android P!
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Sort of yes,... But then again isn't it expected now that the Pixel 3 is around the corner?
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Well it's less than a year old and costs a lot of money so I don't expect it to slow down just yet. ??
Overall I don't feel my phone slowed down, but I agree with MKDHD that apps are reload frequently.
fearfighters said:
Well it's less than a year old and costs a lot of money so I don't expect it to slow down just yet.
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I didn't expect it either. Came from Samsung, and this was quite a surprise to me too!
But then again, Apple does it... and now they're a company worth 1 Trillion US Dollars.
It's not that hard to guess where the others will look for inspiration now.
I just feel oneplus bought mkbhd out.. it honestly sounded like a sponsored rant. With oneplus now tweeting about that video and mkbhd 'verifying' it. Just seems too staged
Honestly if he had only mentioned about the app reload which everyone will agree who uses more apps then definitely no doubt there is a difference between 4gb and 6gb ram, but he was using android P beta so you cannot be judging it but when he said in another device it got slow running oreo then i really can't belive it and the thing he was complaining about animation lol OP animations are different and the speed as well
This would be the same case with IPhone x getting slow because of the animation
The first ever video of Mkbhd i disliked
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haven't experienced any slowdown tbh
Camera app definitely stutters more!!
Hello,
I am curious to know if the phone slowed down after several months.
Please tell us:
1- if you phone is the Chinese or the global version.
2- time of purchase.
3- did it slow down or not.
Thanks
Bought my mate 20X L29 (global) 3 month ago and no, its not slowing down.
My mother have the Mate 8 for, is it 4 or 5 years now... and its not slower, we dont talking AppleSung here, but Huawei [emoji1303]
Btw, why u think its should slowing down?? [emoji848]
anameeeen said:
Please tell us:
1- if you phone is the Chinese or the global version.
2- time of purchase.
3- did it slow down or not.
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1- European variant (C432)
2- around Xmas 2018
3- No, not at all. Can't say I've noticed any slowdown on my previous Mate 9 either. Having said that, the 20 X is snappier.
Not at all, even mine mate 9 became faster as time goes by.
The Mate 20 is fast fast fast
My L29 hasn't slowed down one bit since I bought it at the end of November. The only Huawei phone that ever slowed down for me was my Mediapad X2 after about three years.
BigDisplay said:
Bought my mate 20X L29 (global) 3 month ago and no, its not slowing down.
My mother have the Mate 8 for, is it 4 or 5 years now... and its not slower, we dont talking AppleSung here, but Huawei [emoji1303]
Btw, why u think its should slowing down?? [emoji848]
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Hahaha great post. Not a single bit of slow down . Coming from a Galaxy Lag 9, it's a breath of fresh air. They give Android a bad name.
BigDisplay said:
Bought my mate 20X L29 (global) 3 month ago and no, its not slowing down.
My mother have the Mate 8 for, is it 4 or 5 years now... and its not slower, we dont talking AppleSung here, but Huawei [emoji1303]
Btw, why u think its should slowing down?? [emoji848]
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My friend has a pixel phone and it slowed down. He wants to buy this phone as I recommend it to him since he wanted a large phone. I don't want him to have the same bad experience with slowing down.
My phone didn't slow down, but I wanted to make sure others have the same experience as I me.
this is great news, I'm going to buy one and was wondering the same thing.
8/256 with 64 nm card. received mine around 11/1/18. Have roughly 200gb of movies and apps on it. No studder or lag what so ever . Performance mode is unnecessary . I have never factory reset.
I've only had mine for about a month so not enough time to come to concrete conclusions however, I have owned the following which have all lagged like crazy after a few months: Samsung's (s3, n4, s8), Panasonic cm1, pixel 2 xl
Surprisingly the only android phones that I didn't experience lag or very little was the original Xiaomi mi mix and this one (so far). The speed feels really similar to when I first got the mix. And honestly, so far these are the only two android phones I've had that competes to some degree with iphones in terms of speed and reliability. I kept going back to iPhones everytime I tried an android but the mix was the first to convince me that android can work properly. Now the mate 20x feels much like an upgraded version of that. Surprisingly, it's the Chinese phones that seem to not build up lag after a certain period of time.
wingk1314 said:
I've only had mine for about a month so not enough time to come to concrete conclusions however, I have owned the following which have all lagged like crazy after a few months: Samsung's (s3, n4, s8), Panasonic cm1, pixel 2 xl
Surprisingly the only android phones that I didn't experience lag or very little was the original Xiaomi mi mix and this one (so far). The speed feels really similar to when I first got the mix. And honestly, so far these are the only two android phones I've had that competes to some degree with iphones in terms of speed and reliability. I kept going back to iPhones everytime I tried an android but the mix was the first to convince me that android can work properly. Now the mate 20x feels much like an upgraded version of that. Surprisingly, it's the Chinese phones that seem to not build up lag after a certain period of time.
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Good to hear that.
Thanks for the reply
Mate20x global version.
Been about 11 months.
At the 9 month mark I began getting periods of very bad intermittent lag, affecting all apps, occuring zero to few times per day, lasting about an hour or so. Reboots appeared to clear them temporarily.
After enduring for a week, I did the clear cache in recovery mode, to no avail, and tried other things, and then finally did factory reset.
After the factory reset, it seemed like the lag was gone, then it returned after about one month.
Not sure what to do.
It is intermittent and unpredictable. I would not be able to reproduce it for Huawei service center staff to see.
kaonxdad said:
Mate20x global version.
Been about 11 months.
At the 9 month mark I began getting periods of very bad intermittent lag, affecting all apps, occuring zero to few times per day, lasting about an hour or so. Reboots appeared to clear them temporarily.
After enduring for a week, I did the clear cache in recovery mode, to no avail, and tried other things, and then finally did factory reset.
After the factory reset, it seemed like the lag was gone, then it returned after about one month.
Not sure what to do.
It is intermittent and unpredictable. I would not be able to reproduce it for Huawei service center staff to see.
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Really strange, mine M20X, now after 12 1/2 month is even better then I bought it (emui 10).
And I never reboot it.
Could ur phone had a virus or something?
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It became even faster, especially after Android 10.
Got it from Feb 2k19
Still on 9.1.
Global model.
Runs like it did on day one.
its only been about a month now, but super duper snappy on chinese 8/256 GB with EMUI 10
btw, update just got pushedbyesterday from 176 to 185, havent installed it yet though.
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jbmc83 said:
its only been about a month now, but super duper snappy on chinese 8/256 GB with EMUI 10
btw, update just got pushedbyesterday from 176 to 185, havent installed it yet though.
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I just installed the EMUI10/android10 update... I have AL00 the phone is super fast now, camera app is better... But. I've lost Google app store gonna have to try to work out how to get it back.
ooMoo said:
I just installed the EMUI10/android10 update... I have AL00 the phone is super fast now, camera app is better... But. I've lost Google app store gonna have to try to work out how to get it back.
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u can just install it manually, no worries
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Hi, I own an s20+ and in my life, I have never seen a slower phone updating and installing apps. I remember owning a Huawei p10 plus like 4 years ago and it was the ****! It installed apps in like 5 seconds. Now this fricking expensive phone literally takes like 4 minutes with each app. It's not the wifi and it's not the software since I'm running the latest update, not the firmware itself because it has also been like this forever. I'm stunned, it makes no sense. Why is it so slow, am I the only one?
https://imgur.com/a/LgEGeNX
Damn you don't got much storage left... that's what I be *****in about.
Hi, I own an s20+ and in my life, I have never seen a slower phone updating and installing apps. I remember owning a Huawei p10 plus like 4 years ago and it was the ****! It installed apps in like 5 seconds. Now this fricking expensive phone literally takes like 4 minutes with each app. It's not the wifi and it's not the software since I'm running the latest update, not the firmware itself because it has also been like this forever. I'm stunned, it makes no sense. Why is it so slow, am I the only one?
Duplicate of https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/why-apps-take-soooooo-damn-long-to-install-is-it-just-me.4333611/
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