Hey guys.
How is your hinge on the Fold3 compared when you used a Fold2?
My hinge feels more loose compared to it, not stronger or more tight.
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I mean how does it feel when you open and close it? Tight or loose?
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Hinge is definitely tighter. It is the number one I noticed when I unboxed it and gave it a fold for the first time. Prior to the Fold3 I owned a Fold2 at launch. It should feel noticeably tighter.
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Hinge is definitely tighter. It is the number one I noticed when I unboxed it and gave it a fold for the first time. Prior to the Fold3 I owned a Fold2 at launch. It should feel noticeably tighter.
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It doesn't matter now. I returned the device. Thanks for your reply
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Café King said:
It doesn't matter now. I returned the device. Thanks for your reply
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That's one way to solve a problem! Lol. Sorry it didn't work out, better luck with the next device. Cheers
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That's one way to solve a problem! Lol. Sorry it didn't work out, better luck with the next device. Cheers
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Thanks. I bought a S21 Ultra 16 GB ram version. I'm happy with it
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atvxda said:
Hinge is definitely tighter. It is the number one I noticed when I unboxed it and gave it a fold for the first time. Prior to the Fold3 I owned a Fold2 at launch. It should feel noticeably tighter.
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Samsung says it's improved; more dust and water resistant.
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Samsung says it's improved; more dust and water resistant.
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Correct, it is. As I had mentioned, owned both. Fold3 should feel noticeably tighter. The original Q posted was regarding the hinge feeling loser than the previous generation Fold.
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Thanks. I bought a S21 Ultra 16 GB ram version. I'm happy with it
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It's a great phone. Prior to getting into the Fold2, I traded in my trusty Note 10 Plus and gave my wife my N20U. I hope for the next Fold to include the N20U or S20U's camera hardware.
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It's a great phone. Prior to getting into the Fold2, I traded in my trusty Note 10 Plus and gave my wife my N20U. I hope for the next Fold to include the N20U or S20U's camera hardware.
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If I'm going to get the Fold3, all the cameras must be improved drastically...
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If I'm going to get the Fold3, all the cameras must be improved drastically...
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I don't feel the shots are bad, I've been able to capture nice photos with the rear, I would prefer a longer zoom telephoto. That would come in handy. Otherwise, pics come out solid. B, not an A camera though. Lol. There's a long list of wants for the next iteration of the Fold brand. Camera's is definitely on the list.
Honestly, I can't go back to a normal slab. The first Fold may have been gimmicky, however the Fold 2 and 3 most definitely showcase the progression and I'm all for it especially now with S pen support.
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If I'm going to get the Fold3, all the cameras must be improved drastically...
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Got mine today, cams are ****. There's no masking it with sweet words. Coming from 12 pro max, a cam beast
Thats aside I'm in love with my fold 3
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Got mine today, cams are ****. There's no masking it with sweet words. Coming from 12 pro max, a cam beast
Thats aside I'm in love with my fold 3
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Funny enough in a video I saw they where 3 people doing a comparing with s21 ultra, fold 3 and 12 Pro max and if I remember it right for them fold 3 won and 12 Pro max lost. S21 ultra came 2nd or if it was s21 ultra first and fold 3 2nd can't remember. But 12 Pro max failed in alot of their pictures such as it caused sky behind to be clearly white and other stuff that made them vote 12 Pro max voted out.
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Funny enough in a video I saw they where 3 people doing a comparing with s21 ultra, fold 3 and 12 Pro max and if I remember it right for them fold 3 won and 12 Pro max lost. S21 ultra came 2nd or if it was s21 ultra first and fold 3 2nd can't remember. But 12 Pro max failed in alot of their pictures such as it caused sky behind to be clearly white and other stuff that made them vote 12 Pro max voted out.
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don't know about them, but fold 3 cant take pictures if the subject moves even a little, it comes out blurry also most of my photos came out in beauty mode like some kind of paintings. i have turned off all the beauty or enhancer settings
its takes some seconds before processing the images like in 2019 lol
all my above experience is from indoor photos. maybe it performs better in outdoor, will check it tomorrow
but there is no way fold 3 beats iPhone in cam section. period
inner screen is so beautiful
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Hey guys.
How is your hinge on the Fold3 compared when you used a Fold2?
My hinge feels more loose compared to it, not stronger or more tight.
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tightness 7/10
at the same time it feels perfect
build like a tank as someone said
btw this is my 1st fold.
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don't know about them, but fold 3 cant take pictures if the subject moves even a little, it comes out blurry also most of my photos came out in beauty mode like some kind of paintings. i have turned off all the beauty or enhancer settings
its takes some seconds before processing the images like in 2019 lol
all my above experience is from indoor photos. maybe it performs better in outdoor, will check it tomorrow
but there is no way fold 3 beats iPhone in cam section. period
inner screen is so beautiful
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Check your settings, set up. Something not right, even my 10+ doesn't lag like that.
Try clearing cam data and clearing the system cache.
Try using the tracking mode for moving subjects. Also pan back a bit to give more depth of field; the closer you are, the less depth of field and less room for AF errors. These are fast lens... your not shooting at f/5.6 or 8.
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Check your settings, set up. Something not right, even my 10+ doesn't lag like that.
Try clearing cam data and clearing the system cache.
Try using the tracking mode for moving subjects. Also pan back a bit to give more depth of field; the closer you are, the less depth of field and less room for AF errors. These are fast lens... your not shooting at f/5.6 or 8.
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Tracking mode already on. Still same. Lol my wife still using the 10 plus. Same nightmare camera. Anyway I try the cam outdoors tomorrow. But indoors there's are lot of problems
Anyway I'm not worried about about the cam but i will certainly miss it
We can't have everything right. After using this for few hrs iphone feels like 5yrs behind in technology
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Tracking mode already on. Still same. Lol my wife still using the 10 plus. Same nigh are camera. Anyway I try the cam outdoors tommorow. But indoors there's are lot of problems
Anyway I'm not worried about about the cam but i will certainly miss it
We can't have everything right. After using this for few hrs iphone feels like 5yrs behind in technology
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Try using any of this junk after shooting with a pro cam and lens
The shutter release sucks unless I use my spen.
They do pretty good. Shooting is more the shooter than camera, learn the cam's limitations.
I got to admit though it's hard to take a bad shot with the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 wide open if you frame the shot right. It just grabs it.
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Try using any of this junk after shooting with a pro cam and lens
The shutter release sucks unless I use my spen.
They do pretty good. Shooting is more the shooter than camera, learn the cam's limitations.
I got to admit though it's hard to take a bad shot with the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 wide open if you frame the shot right. It just grabs it.
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what i mean is, i don't need to do these things(change that this) in 12 pro max, just point and shoot, the shots looks like a pro
but with fold 3 cam i need to be like a statue to take some nice shots
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what i mean is, i don't need to do these things(change that this) in 12 pro max, just point and shoot, the shots looks like a pro
but with fold 3 cam i need to be like a statue to take some nice shots
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Try using active focus. The shutter lag is long too. It's hard to get a AF lock up on the eye, my Canon AF did that easily most times. You can also try manual focus but unlike a pro cam the phone controls are a true pain to try to use.
I don't buy these phones for their cams so it's not a huge point of contention to me but I do notice it.
Plain Jane iPhone... no way, they bore me to tears. Memory is way over priced as well and they support the CCP.
Samsung Android is a lot easier to suck up.
Samsung is still the most customizable stock phone on the planet... you decide how it looks.
It's a totally different animal that requires more user input and knowledge because of all the freedom to choose.
Learning is easy though... just play with it.
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I'm not 100% convinced about how good this camera is.
I heard the mate 9 had an update which made the camera better. Will this apply to us as well?
my note 7 camera was 100 times better. I'm quite disappointed with this.
The mate 9 with update was better. Had both.
I have the Mate 9 Pro, which is the same hardware as the PD. Camera is IMO worse than the one in my iPhone 7 (not Plus). Front camera takes very yellow photos. Optical stabilizer is working too hard on the rear camera.
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I have the Mate 9 Pro, which is the same hardware as the PD. Camera is IMO worse than the one in my iPhone 7 (not Plus). Front camera takes very yellow photos. Optical stabilizer is working too hard on the rear camera.
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Hi!
I've just downloaded the Google camera and to be honest the results are pretty good!
Have a play and see what you think..
BTW.. Definitely get the sim tray thing looked into.. It should be conpletely flush
Not sure if you guys talking about pro or the Porsche design but my pro is the best camera I ever had on a phone. And I did have have s7 edge before
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BTW.. Definitely get the sim tray thing looked into.. It should be conpletely flush
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The demo phone in three individual stores in the nearest town center, Aalborg, suffered from the same "issue".
What is this "Google camera" you are talking about?
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Not sure if you guys talking about pro or the Porsche design but my pro is the best camera I ever had on a phone. And I did have have s7 edge before
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S7 Edge doesn't impress me particularly, either - too brown/yellow in the tint on the rear camera for my liking.
Quite pleased with this pic..
Not often I get to take artsy pics but I'm thinking this one is worth sharing.
I think that camera is pretty good in even low light situations, it takes pretty good shots.
I take back what i said about the camera...
Took a pic of a plane in the air..
I then zoomed in and took another pic...
Also took some pics of my kid on a rather fast fair ride and he came out completely clear!
Impressed!
The camera is for me quite good but in low light it is not as good as my xperia x performance. The colours could be more vivid though
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Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
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Do you use the M20X camera app only or do you use another one or even them both??
Whats the best one for you and why?
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Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
If we only can have g gcam v6 with night sight and googles great HDR+
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Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
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I came from samsung s8 and notice video app is inferior in quality, smoothness and also no option for external mic.let me know what app is best for filming.. I manage to get the this on smooth q gimbal with counterweight
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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Tend to use the stock app most of the time as 99% of the time it produces a perfect picture for me, I also have 'open camera' and the 'moment camera' apps installed as well to play around with as well.
As a side not, I use a Rode mic for filming video as not a fan of the quality of the mics on the phone
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i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
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i cannot find any setting to use external mic...could you share how?
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I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I hear ya. My favorite phone was the first Note Edge (with the one edge). Nice width and the edge had some useful apps associated with it. If it wasn't for the poor battery life I might still be using it!
Can someone please post the stock camera apk from M20X AL00 (china) version? The video record stopped working on mine and want to see if reinstalling it will fix it.
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I just plug the mic into the headphone port and it works automatically, there is no need to change any settings.
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i think the recording will still be using the mic from the phone....in samsung camera app, there is setting to control the source....
try recording with you microphone...pulling it near and away from your voice....i think it will remain same volume....which means recording takes place at the phone..
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I come from Sammy Note 8 to, yaa and mi max 3, honor 8x max, honor note 10 and now mate 20X.
I love all those phones lots more then the Note 8 which i sold after 10 days. I only like phablets with big display and Sammy note is no longer in this category after the ratio aspect 18-19/9 becomes standards, sooo saaddd. I really miss my old loving 16/9 and my old Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra a lot 6,8 inch and 16/9.
That was times.
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I couldnt ignore this post because I am the same way..I had a Sony Z Ultra, a Mediapad X2 and a Sony Z3 Tablet Compact (which I still have) as my phones but I wanted something more modern and oh boy, since all this trend of bagette shaped phones, it has been a struggle for me to find anything half decent. Finally settled on the Mate 20x which as awesome as it is, still feels so freaking tiny. Having a hard time adapting to the smaller phone but on the other side..damn this phone has great features!
I've just had my new Mate 20 X for a week and overall love the phone.
But the biggest gripe I have with this phone is the retard camera app. Why is it that when the app is set for 40MP resolution on the main camera, it will disable access to the wide-angle and telephoto lenses? This makes no sense what so ever mainly because the default 10MP setting absolutely sucks.. absurd over processing, contrast and sharpening. The best quality and most natural looking images I get is by using the 40MP setting with the main camera (under good lighting conditions). But then if I want to use the wide-angle or tele lens for a particular shot, I have to go back into Settings, fall back to the default 10MP option just so there is access to the other lenses. This is really really so bad. Why isn't there a setting of simply bring able to usr all the of 3 sensors' full native resolution instead of having to fall back to 10MP picture size just to be able to switch cameras? Is there a workaround this or another camera app than can work in a more logical way than the Huawei's camera app?
This aside, I love the phone.. great batter life, super fast, incredible overall build quality, really awesome hardware.. maybe the last great phone from Huawei for the foreseeable future as things look pretty grim for them. But the camera app, wow.. what a nightmare.
Anyway, maybe I'm doing something wrong and I haven't figured it out yet.. tanks in advance for any advice.
I've just got the Note 10+ 5G coming from a Huawei Mate 20 Pro and the camera on this is disappointing to say the least. I haven't tested it in good lighting conditions, but in low light the Mate 20 Pro wipes the floor with this.
I can't actually believe just how big the difference is. Unless I'm doing something wrong? For a start, I can't find where you set the resolution of the cameras. Or can you not select it?
I also coming from Mate 20 Pro and Pixel 3 XL. And also not very happy with the camera. Yes, Mate 20 Pro is better at night indeed but not at day time. Pixel 3 XL seems took better pictures most of the time . Apart from that, the phone overall is much better that anything I had before.
I have an 11 pro max and n10+. I brought both to my brothers house on Christmas to take photos of my family. I used the iPhone and note side by side. The note absolutely couldn’t handle trying to catch my nephew in motion. I used the iPhone for most of the night and every shot was beautiful and not grainy in medium light. Not pleased with the note camera at all.
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I have an 11 pro max and n10+. I brought both to my brothers house on Christmas to take photos of my family. I used the iPhone and note side by side. The note absolutely couldn’t handle trying to catch my nephew in motion. I used the iPhone for most of the night and every shot was beautiful and not grainy in medium light. Not pleased with the note camera at all.
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That's the main reason I sold my wifes S10+ and bought a Pixel 4. Nearly impossible to take pics of people while moving.
I have the same setup with the Note 10+ and the iPhone 11 pro Max. I use the iPhone for photos much more often than the Samsung.
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That's the main reason I sold my wifes S10+ and bought a Pixel 4. Nearly impossible to take pics of people while moving.
I have the same setup with the Note 10+ and the iPhone 11 pro Max. I use the iPhone for photos much more often than the Samsung.
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I’m getting ready to return the n10+.
Lol
I agree. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes better photos indoors than my Note 10 +. During the day there's little difference but indoor photos are blurry if anyone moves even slightly on the N10+. It seems like with each update it has gotten worse but it could just be because I have been taking more photos in different places because of the holidays and never noticed that it was that bad.
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I’m getting ready to return the n10+.
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I returned mine the day after Christmas because it blurred and softened all the pics I took while the family was unwrapping presents. I went back to the Pixel 4XL.
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I agree. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes better photos indoors than my Note 10 +. During the day there's little difference but indoor photos are blurry if anyone moves even slightly on the N10+. It seems like with each update it has gotten worse but it could just be because I have been taking more photos in different places because of the holidays and never noticed that it was that bad.
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Interesting, I actually had this issue with the OP 7 Pro. If subjects were completely still, I'd do ok and get them in the shot nicely, but as soon as there was movement, or it came time to take pictures of people at night, it did pretty bad.
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I returned mine the day after Christmas because it blurred and softened all the pics I took while the family was unwrapping presents. I went back to the Pixel 4XL.
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I only have one nephew and I feel like these years as a baby are very important for me to document and the most basic function of good pictures are sometimes very hard to achieve with the note camera. Maybe I’ll give it a try again with the note 11.
I've cleared the camera app data, reset the camera settings and wiped the cache partition and after restarting the phone it seems to have sorted itself out.
I'll do some more testing and see how it performs now.
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I only have one nephew and I feel like these years as a baby are very important for me to document and the most basic function of good pictures are sometimes very hard to achieve with the note camera. Maybe I’ll give it a try again with the note 11.
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I might try the S11 but I am definitely going to wait until others report back. The two best cameras this year are the Pixel 4 and Iphone 11 pro max. I had the pro max for almost two weeks and the camera is great but returned it because of ios being so restrictive. If it wasn't for that I would have kept it. The flat screen, build quality and camera are top notch.
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I've cleared the camera app data, reset the camera settings and wiped the cache partition and after restarting the phone it seems to have sorted itself out.
I'll do some more testing and see how it performs now.
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My issue with the camera comes when the lighting isn't the best and the subject is moving. If the lighting is in full daylight it works great besides over smoothing with the processing. I really hope Samsung fixes all this with the S11. If not I will look elsewhere.
I totally agree with all of you. If my grandson moves even just a little picture is very very blurry. And forget about taking pictures while my son is playing basketball.
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I only have one nephew and I feel like these years as a baby are very important for me to document and the most basic function of good pictures are sometimes very hard to achieve with the note camera. Maybe I’ll give it a try again with the note 11.
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I know exactly how you feel. I have a 7 week old and a 22 month old. I need those pictures to be perfect to capture there moments. Perfect example for today. My wife and I took out eldest son to the park. He was on the swing and she was able to capture our son swinging in live focus or portrait mode or whatever you want to call it perfectly with 0 blur on her Pixel 4. I know my Note 10+ would not be able to do that.
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I know exactly how you feel. I have a 7 week old and a 22 month old. I need those pictures to be perfect to capture there moments. Perfect example for today. My wife and I took out eldest son to the park. He was on the swing and she was able to capture our son swinging in live focus or portrait mode or whatever you want to call it perfectly with 0 blur on her Pixel 4. I know my Note 10+ would not be able to do that.
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For today’s lunch with family, my 11 pro max captured everything with zero blur and wonderful lighting. I brought along the Note on a little tripod to take photos of all of us and use the stylus as the shutter button. One photo and I was disappointed.
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Interesting, I actually had this issue with the OP 7 Pro. If subjects were completely still, I'd do ok and get them in the shot nicely, but as soon as there was movement, or it came time to take pictures of people at night, it did pretty bad.
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It seems like as OnePlus updated the camera got better and as Samsung updated the camera got worse. It's very strange.
You guys need to learn to use pro mode on the camera.
The pictures in bad light looks good!
I know the Mate does better pure night shots and that's ok, but the Note is pretty good when using the right settings.
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You guys need to learn to use pro mode on the camera.
The pictures in bad light looks good!
I know the Mate does better pure night shots and that's ok, but the Note is pretty good when using the right settings.
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I know how to use Pro Mode on the camera but it makes no difference on my Note 10 +, pics indoors still don't come out all that good.
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I know how to use Pro Mode on the camera but it makes no difference on my Note 10 +, pics indoors still don't come out all that good.
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All of the 2019 Samsungs choose a lower shutter speed vs my 4XL and P30 for any given scene this is IMO why they struggle with any movement at all. I sold my Note 10+ before Christmas but picked up a second hand S10 as I found one in Cardinal red! Camera between the two is pretty much identical. Pro mode and effectively shooting in shutter priority helps a little but then you then get a little more of that Samsung smoothing plus you cannot do this if you want to use night mode. I just think that Samsung used the same main camera hardware this year as they did with the S9 and we are paying the price.
A good example below of my cat over Christmas, S10, P30 Pro and 4XL. Pixel and P30 are close the Samsung way behind, not like the cat was jumping around either. Samsung is the first one
I haven't had time yet to proper play with all settings, but why don't you guys use gcam if you're not happy with the Samsung camera app.
I've got the note10+ 5g and am still on latest android 9 patch as 10 update isn't out for my 5g version yet.
Both with Samsung camera and gcam I don't get blurry pictures when trying to catch my 5 year old twins when they're jumping up and down. Believe me, they will NOT sit still for anything, let alone a picture. Although gcam seems to edge it slightly on the no blur front.
So maybe give that a whirl.
Of course the big main screen is the #1 positive.
If anything is going to break this deal its
#1 the small cover screen first and foremost.
#2 it's the cameras but I've been surprisingly OK with the ZF3 shots lately.
How Bout you?
i shifted to all apple last year and im so in love with my iphone 12 pro max, i love the eco system
but i still want to buy Samsung as i love the extra customization and its like tab and phone
my main concerns
are there any cases from rhinoshield or any well known brands? my phone falls to much from my hands
my last s20 ultra have so much focus issues that never wanted to go back to samsung, maybe i got a defective unit 12 pro max cam is awesome
the inside screen quality, i watched a durability test and the nails still damage the inner screen
I went the opposite way. I just returned my z-fold 3 because of the battery life and the cameras. The s-pen flip case was absolutely horrid. I just feel for a $1,900 phone, it was underwhelming. I'm hoping on the z-fold 4, they put the s-pen solo in the phone. It just wasn't the note replacement I hoped it would be. I ordered an s21 ultra 512 GB but I won't be here till the end of the month so I'm looking forward to that now.
I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
I went from S21 Ultra to Fold 3, I certainly won't be going back to to a candy bar phone again. The cameras do a good enough job for me, the S21 camera array would have been nice, but I do wonder how much it would bump the price up.
I don't mind the outside screen either, certainly easier to type 1 handed, where the S21 U was quite wide to use like that.
I found this video the other day, regarding the cameras
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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Maybe in your opinion but I have my own. The cameras are basically up to par with my Note 20 5G. Maybe you are willing to sacrifice to have a folding screen but I am not. Cellular reception also was worse and I have a feeling that is what was killing the battery. By all means enjoy your F3 and I'll enjoy my S21. Like I said, I am looking forward to the Fold 4.
I love my fold3. The battery life isn't great, but try turning off your 5G. That should help out quite a bit. Plus you won't be able to tell the difference with the speeds unless you're using ultra wideband.
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
S21U to ZF3. I've gotten settled into the Fold 3 after a few days - I had to swap out my email app of choice (Nine) for Outlook to help with the battery (Nine has always been a bit of a hog, but it tips the scales to "not a full day" whereas Outlook plays nicer). I'm now getting a full business day (12hrs) but not much more.
I've got a little stand and BT keyboard taking its place as an iPad Mini Pro as welll...
I will miss the S21U cameras (I still have it...not giving it up so quickly!) so it's def form vs. function.
My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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My biggest gripe with the Fold isn't the phone itself. To have a good solid case on it that lays flat means having big edges around the front screen. It's a bit awkward, but I'm sure I'll cope with time.
As for battery life, I do a lot of reading. I used to use a tablet + S21. With their mixed usage, either device would last a couple days without any real issue. Now, I have to top off during the day. I knew at some level this would be the case, but didn't QUITE expect it to be as heavy as it is. I have a charger at my work desk, home desk, and nightstand so it isn't a problem in my day to day life. Reading is also something I can avoid doing, and usually would anyway, if I'm going to be out and about all day.
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Yep. You were in essence carrying two batteries, one in the S21 and one in the Tablet. You can't get away with just having 1 battery and expecting it to last as long as 2. The answer is to have an external battery along for the ride (which I always have in my bag anyway!)
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Well, didn't usually carry the tablet with me as much as use it around the house. That said, yes. Not only is the tablet a second battery, it's a larger second battery. I expected higher usage, I just didn't expect as much as I should have. I do have the ability to bring a battery if needed, I just don't need to in most cases.
Totally get it. It's just helpful to think about the loss of the large 2nd battery
dezborders said:
S21U to F3...
Cameras ... Nasi e downgrade
Everything else ... Z Fold 3 is *THE* device to own in 2021
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rockky said:
Don't tell people to "stop the bull****". It's not your role to police who says what. All opinions are good to go.
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I took the ZF3 and S21U out together today and did camera tests on my own and was amazed how well the ZF3 matched the S21U. (cept for zoom and macro)
Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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Honestly if you have a SGS21 Ultra. There is no point in upgrading to the Z Fold 3 as the performance is the exact same as they are running on the same hardware.
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S21u outside of USA and SK has the "inferior" Exynos chip which has different performance and heat management (and also different ISP for processing images taken with cameras)
It's a difficult question ... Upgrade from S21u to F3?
Personally I'd say if you want to try foldable phones the F3 is the one to go for
If camera is most important to you stick with the S21U
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I don't understand the issue with cameras. Other than the less zoom on the f3, it takes pics just as good as the s21ultra. Yes I have both. Sure, batt life is not as good, but WTF did anyone expect with 2 screens. But it does last a full day. So stop the Bllsht.
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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My 'problem' with the F3 cameras is that for £1599 ($1799) the absolure flagship product from Samsung I expect the S21 Ultra camera module to be included. However, Samsung reduced F3 price by £200 over last years F2 so we cant have everything (but we still want it!)
The Fold3 camera sensors are the same as those in the Fold2, which were same as Fold1, which were same as the S10+ cameras.
If we wanted 3 year old camera sensors in our smartphones we would buy an Apple iPhone. lol
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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So, did you end up buying an IPhone?
If not, and you bought the F3, you'll know that the pictures it takes are very good, to the extent that some YouTube comparisons show that it holds up to, and sometimes beats the IPhone in terms of picture quality.
If you didn't buy the F3, you're just trolling, for how would you know how good or bad the camera is in reality. LOL
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As a phone enthusiast (read addict), I have owned in the last 12 months.... Note 20 Ultra, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Xiaomi Mi 11 5g, S21 ultra and now the Z Fold3.
The Fold 3 is 1000s times more advanced and exciting to use than any of the other devices mentioned above... however the Z range cameras are stuck at 12mp from 2019 S10 era.
I agree pictures taken with a Z Fold3 are good or even excellent in most cases....
however, if you claim 2.0 optical zoom in F3 is technically as good as 10x optical zoom in S21U , or thar 108MP with Laser autofocus on S21u is not "better" than basic 12mp main lens on the Z Fold, you are mistaken my friend
(and lets not even begin to discuss the 4 FOUR! megapixel under-screen-camera lol )
To clarify .... I ABSOLUTELTY LOVE my Z Fold3!
I just think Samsung has missed the opportunity to release the ULTIMATE "UNBEATABLE" smartphone by not including 2021 spec camera module from the S21 Ultra. (The Note range always matched or exceeded the cameras in the S range from 6 months previous so why not do the same with the Z range?).
While waiting for our phones to arrive, lets post the reviews here:
Google Pixel 6 Pro vs iPhone 13 Pro Max - Camera Test Comparison
per above review, P6P is neck to neck with 13Pro Max
Google Pixel 6 vs Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra - Camera Test Comparison
per above review, P6P and S21U are comparable
I'm honestly a little worried about the SuperSaf camera review. It seems like this may even be a step back from the 5? I didn't have one, but I have a Oneplus 8 Pro and some of these look worse than what I have. Any thoughts?
No macro camera, no lidar for depth. Low light looks questionable
https://mashable.com/review/google-pixel-6-pro-review
Google Pixel 6 Pro vs iPhone 13 Pro Max – ULTIMATE Camera Comparison!ZoneofTech review
P6P is the winner with 17 points vs 13 Pro max with 13 points
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I'm honestly a little worried about the SuperSaf camera review. It seems like this may even be a step back from the 5? I didn't have one, but I have a Oneplus 8 Pro and some of these look worse than what I have. Any thoughts?
No macro camera, no lidar for depth. Low light looks questionable
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this may help macro probably can be improved with fw update
Seeing the same thing on Mrwhosetheboss. Majorly disappointing.
what videos are you guys watching?
The 6p seems to hold up well with the iPhone 13pro max
Short Circuit channel showing how dark the screen is at max brightness compared to the iphone 13 (which I have no interest in), also doesn't look good to me. The speakers also sound way worse it seems. The more I see of this the more this feels like the pro should have started at $700 and not $900. I ordered from best Buy and I can still cancel it, but I don't know what to do.
I don't know about you, but for me personally, Pixel 6 Pro picture quality looks quite good. I'm pretty sure it'll be better than what I currently have i.e. Pixel 3. It still takes good picture.
SuperSaf style camera comparison.
Mrwhosetheboss
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Short Circuit channel showing how dark the screen is at max brightness compared to the iphone 13 (which I have no interest in), also doesn't look good to me. The speakers also sound way worse it seems. The more I see of this the more this feels like the pro should have started at $700 and not $900. I ordered from best Buy and I can still cancel it, but I don't know what to do.
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I don't know, almost every review I've read or watched so far place the 6 Pro above the S21 Ultra AND the iphone 13 Pro.
We'll see for ourselves soon enough though.
Watching the Android Central review now and they are using the telephoto as the macro lens and it actually looks really good, so maybe that's why there is no dedicated macro camera. I'm going to watch as many as I can as it seems different people are using this phone in different ways. The bottom line on the video seems to be not great though regardless of who is reviewing it.
Also more confirmation the screen isn't bright enough outside.
For info - from the BBC website. This is about Magic Eraser, de-Blurring and more.
Ghisy said:
I don't know, almost every review I've read or watched so far place the 6 Pro above the S21 Ultra AND the iphone 13 Pro.
We'll see for ourselves soon enough though.
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Any examples?
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For info - from the BBC website. This is about Magic Eraser, de-Blurring and more.
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Great, informative, focused, very quick review of certain aspects. Thanks for sharing!
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Any examples?
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Google Pixel 6 Pro review: Magically erasing Pixels' past
One year later, the Pixel 6 Pro is a better phone than ever.
www.androidcentral.com
I'm still reading/watching other ones.
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There aren't any. I watched 6 or 7 videos all the way through. At best the Pixel is on par with the iphone in picture, worse in some areas, better in others, and objectively worse across the board in video.
Considering I will never own an iphone I'm more interested in how it compares to my OP8 pro, which I doubt I'll find a video on.
Also keep in mind Google is comparing to a mid range budget phone in the 5....so this "jump" is a jump for THAT phone, not compared to others in a lot of cases.
9 to 5 Google review. They like it.
This I like the best when it comes to Pixel 6 review. It seems like most of the reviewer missed the macro capability of Pixel 6 Pro zoom lens. Which IMO looks way better than iPhone 13 Pro/Max.
shame Google missed the boat on macro mode not being as good as Samsung or Apple! I use macro more then portrait mode