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Should I buy Lenovo Z2 Plus ??

Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here

That are two phones hard to compare.. snapdragon 820 vs 625, 5inch vs 5.5inch etc, fingerprint on front vs on the back etc... how should we know what you need or want?
Both are great..
And for custom roms > how about if you look into the roms, kernels, recovery.. section? Dont be so lazy man

Modder001 said:
Hey guys
So I'm here asking about the question in the title
I want to know whether the kernel sources are released by OEM or not ?
And I'm getting this phone for only 15K INR
Is there any android developement like custom roms possible on this phone ?? OR should I buy redmi note 4 which has a better support ??
I don't want to switch devices for few more years
Please help me here
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Warning: Very long story
My purchase of 3Gb variant of Redmi Note 4 was final but could not buy it (everything happens for a good) as delivery was not available by flipkart in my area. I was very sad and finally decided to buy a new, seal packed Redmi Note 3 from ebay at Rs. 9300 (Rs. 10400 was listed price, after applying coupons it became Rs. 9300) as it had performance and recently got franco kernel too (previously available only on Pixels, Nexus and One Plus devices). Finally saw Lenovo Z2 Plus on Snapdeal for Rs. 12000 and immediately purchased it (was hesitant at first reading reviews on Amazon but could not resist SD 820 at this price).
The phone is great, no heating issues and was much better than Redmi Note 3 (Screen quality, camera quality, general performance, looks) when compared side by side as my friend had one. Battery is also good, I get 5-6 hours Screen on time on 4G network with hotspot on and around 7-8 hours SoT on WiFi.
About development, both devices have great roms but Redmi Note 4 has no custom kernel as kernel source codes are not released currently but may or will get them in future when sources are released. Also if you want to be like a trickster and change TV channels of any TV in lobby of any hospital/Hotel, go for Xiaomi phones as they have IR blaster.
The Z2 Plus recently got official Nougat whereas Redmi Note 3 and 4 are still on Marshmallow but that does not matter as you are planning to use a custom rom and all three have 7.1.2 Nougat custom roms.
Conclusion
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
Currently Z2 Plus is available at Rs.13000 at Snapdeal but wait for amazon sale on 11th, previously at an Amazon sale, it was available for 12K and if you get any bank discount (sometimes 10 to 15% off on SBI Card etc during sale), you can get it for 10-11K too.
Go for the black one, it looks very good
Hope this helps
You can also watch reviews and comparison of phones on youtube for better decisions.

hp5942 said:
If you like very good developer support with some good performance, go for Redmi Note 3
If you like development with superior battery life, go for Redmi Note 4
If you want a phone with sheer raw power and the one that does not slow down even after 3 years and a great value for money and brag among friends, go for Z2 Plus.
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I am absolutely agree with hp5942's statements. Development for Z2 is only growing, it will be awesome in a few months. Note 3 has one of the best dev support and will have it for a long time. Note 4 is better looking and feeling than Note 3, but it is less speedy device.

I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?

Modder001 said:
I'm fine with front mounted finger print sensor
I want to use device for at least 2-3 years
Which one do you suggest me ?
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For long run always go with the phone with more performance.
My friend still has no performance issues with his Mi4 (SD 800, flagship at that time) even after 2.5 years.

if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t

thebiggboss180 said:
if u cant get more money .. get it .. if u can get a bit more.. get oneplus 3t
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I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?

Modder001 said:
I don't have much if a money ... Should I buy lenovo z2 plus ?
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yeah..this phone worth what u paying for.

Why do you guys confuse much. Its good phone for the price. For 13k you are getting snap 820
Its like for the price of audi you getting buggati
Why to get confused. There are minor software hiccups. As you are familiar with xda you can always use custom roms
Hardware wise there are no issues. Build quality is damm solid. I have thrashed my phone many times, but it still survives.
Back glass is lil fragile.

Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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This phone was a worthy buy @18K, it's definitely a steal @12k, but if you can wait, BigBillionDay/GreatIndian sale is around the corner, you might get an even sweeter deal.

Guptasar98 said:
Should i buy lenovo z2 plus now at 12k?
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I bought z2 plus(4,64gb) @ 9.5k from amazon
(Actually 11k - 1.5k cashback)
So wait for any amazon sale
May be buy it on Diwali

For those not used to pimp their phones (unlock bootloader, flash rom etc...), i think Zuk Z2 is not a good choice as the original version is not perfect. But if you like to flash and customize your phone, so yes, 10 times yes,it's a very good phone (have it for almost 1 year and still happy with it).

M-Pen Where to buy?

Hey friends,
I pre-ordered my Mate 20 X today. I'm really excited for it. I am importing it in Canada.
I'm also interested in purchasing an M-Pen, is anyone else doing the same? Any idea where to buy it? Will any version of the M-Pen work with the phone?
Thanks

jeradjohnso said:
Hey friends,
I pre-ordered my Mate 20 X today. I'm really excited for it. I am importing it in Canada.
I'm also interested in purchasing an M-Pen, is anyone else doing the same? Any idea where to buy it? Will any version of the M-Pen work with the phone?
Thanks
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https://liaow.com/huawei-mate-20-x-m-pen.html

Where did you pre-order from? I see that the lowest price that I can find is on banggood.com
What version are you getting??? Is it a global ROM or a Chinese ROM?

jaseman said:
Where did you pre-order from? I see that the lowest price that I can find is on banggood.com
What version are you getting??? Is it a global ROM or a Chinese ROM?
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Hey, yeah I wanted to support a Canadian company so I went through PDA Plaza. Didn't really care about the price.
I really struggled to pick which version of the Mate 20 X, because a few years ago I imported a spec'd out Chinese Mate 9 6 GB 128 GB. Turns out two years later with heavy use, I've only used up about 25% of 128 GB. Everything I do is in the cloud or gets backed up by the cloud, so I don't need the storage. The extra ram would be nice but I don't really trust Huawei's ram management to justify the extra cost. My Mate 9 still does everything I need with 6 GB.
So that being said, I decided to go with the entry level Mate 20 X with 6 GB and 128 GB, Phantom Silver, Chinese model.
Dude, if your waiting around for the Global Model, I would recommend giving up. Its rumored, so take this with a grain of salt, but I heard that the Mate 20 X is only being released in China. If a Chinese model is a dealbreaker for you, then you might want to consider the Mate 20 Pro, which is launching almost everywhere except maybe the US.

I found this. They also have a lot of other accessories too.
https://www.giztop.com/huawei-m-pen.html

jeradjohnso said:
Hey friends,
I pre-ordered my Mate 20 X today. I'm really excited for it. I am importing it in Canada.
I'm also interested in purchasing an M-Pen, is anyone else doing the same? Any idea where to buy it? Will any version of the M-Pen work with the phone?
Thanks
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I will sell you my pen. Unopened. Im in London and Toronto area.

any m-pens for international 29 version? all pens i see are for chinese only?

ShaKki said:
any m-pens for international 29 version? all pens i see are for chinese only?
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There the same.
Sent from my HUAWEI EVR-AL00 using XDA Labs

To buy or not...

It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?

Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.

winesh said:
It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm looking forward to purchase the 128gb varient. I LOVE compact phones, especially the ones with flagship spec i.e. Sony. But I'm definitely getting the Mi 9 SE.

Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....

It depends on what is important for you. I am planning to buy too, after I have seen some reviews and possibly if I see some development activity here.
The reasons I would buy this phone are: small size, amoled screen, quite decent chipset and nfc.
I would personally not buy the galaxy s10e because of the high price and the lack of developement I have seen with their previous phones.

kagazushi said:
Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....
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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!

keeeper said:
Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.
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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?

WhatzIt2Ya said:
After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!
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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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I just watched a couple of reviews and forum posts so mine is not a "direct" opinion, anyway
About photos, they are very good. They are not great, as well as big brother Mi 9, probably that's due to the software: AI and drivers are still not perfectly calibrated on Sony IMX586. It looks like worst than Mi 8, even if on paper Mi9/Mi9SE should have a better sensor.
About battery, it's enough! If you use dark theme, you can reach 6 hours of display on. Recently Xiaomi released DC function for Mi 9 , maybe we will see the same for Mi 9 SE because both have AMOLED display, which can benefit of this DC function.
If battery sometime isn't enough, QC @ 18W can pump in a few minutes the energy you need to reach late night.

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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Photos during daylight are great, just as you wish them to be. Every lens is doing it's job well - you can get a nice close up photo with zoom, wide angle lens proved to be useful as well, bokeh is nice (but it used to be so even on Mi 6). I am a little disappointed with night mode though - before I was playing with it on Mix 3 and there the results looked like magic, here are mediocre. It looks like the algorithm is only increasing the general brightness of the photo without recognizing the difference between stuff which should be visible and that is supposed to remain dark. The effect is obviously worse than on Mi 9 (basing on the reviews).
The battery is sufficient. Mi 9 SE as a smaller size phone is not bought for gaming therefore for any other activity can be used quite long. E.g. I've got over 14 hours of continuous movie play (MX Player HW+) and 25 hours when left as a clock (Big Clock app on Google Play). When you're not using the phone the battery drain is about 1% per hour with Ambient Display on.

kagazushi said:
Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)
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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.

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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan

kagazushi said:
Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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Nah, the only reason why switched to custom for a while is because the wifi problem, everyone is facing this issue. It's disconnects won't won't connect back, and 5ghz wifi speed is very poor.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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I want the mi 9 se as a replacement device. I finally want a premium (cut down) flagship phone, and hopefully will last for about 4 years or more.

Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.

winesh said:
Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.
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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.

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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.
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It is also listed on geekbuying for buying, not only for preorder.
6/64 edition for about 330€ after using coupons seems to be quite a good deal.

Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.

Flounderist said:
Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.
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Miui and oem updates aren't the issue for me.

Ok, so to summerize:
- Small from factor
- Amoled screen
- Indisplay fingerprint
- 4G b20 and b28
- Widevine L1
- 6Gb RAM
A part for the CPU power, it is even more interesting for me than s10e, and for half the price.
So I definetly swap my OnePlus 6 for this device. The last question is where should we buy it to be sure we have the global version?
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.

kagazushi said:
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.
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I would reccomend honorbuy because of european stock and no VAT on delivery (if you are based in Europe).
Devices are shipped with european socket charger.
If you buy on Aliexpress you must check any custom duty that would be added to the shipment in your country.

Mate 20x futures?

Still really miss my 20x and am considering ditching this S20 Ultra and picking one up again. Have been reading about Harmony and wonder how long they plan to keep updating the 20x for. Anyone know?

nickb99NZ said:
Still really miss my 20x and am considering ditching this S20 Ultra and picking one up again. Have been reading about Harmony and wonder how long they plan to keep updating the 20x for. Anyone know?
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Visit the huawei forums to post your question there. Customer service there usually can answer that question

Honor is soon release the Honor X20 Max on 7,2inch.
Its a mixed mid and top ranger.
I will for sure try it out.
I tried Samsung s21 ultra which i sold after 1 month.
Then i bought the xiaomi mi 11 ultra and a brand new Chinese version of mate 20x with a global rom and 8gb 256gb.
I still got both.
I like mi11u better vs S21u, but still the display is not big enough for me, so i hope for the Honor x20 max.
Honor X20 Max price in Global - Phoneaqua
phoneaqua.com

BigDisplay said:
Honor is soon release the Honor X20 Max on 7,2inch.
Its a mixed mid and top ranger.
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Yes its slated to be released this month. Unfortunately according to some news speculations it will come in a 20:9 aspect ratio. If thats indeed true you can forget about buying it. Narrow phones are s***. You and I are in the same boat when it comes to wide screens which we enjoy.
I really hope reports of the x20 max's aspect ratio are false and they decided to stick to the traditional 19:9 typified on last year's x10 max. If not I'll stick to my 20x for sure or possibly switch to the note 20 ultra. I really hate narrow phones.

Deanro said:
Yes its slated to be released this month. Unfortunately according to some news speculations it will come in a 20:9 aspect ratio. If thats indeed true you can forget about buying it. Narrow phones are s***. You and I are in the same boat when it comes to wide screens which we enjoy.
I really hope reports of the x20 max's aspect ratio are false and they decided to stick to the traditional 19:9 typified on last year's x10 max. If not I'll stick to my 20x for sure or possibly switch to the note 20 ultra. I really hate narrow phones.
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Question Is it worth buying the Poco F3 in July 2022 ??

Hi.. I'm searching for a new phone to replace my f1.. I know the F3 is amazing and fast and everything.. I am asking is it worth buying now.. Because the new Samsung A series are more expensive and perform half as good as the F3 but they are new and will get supported until android 14.. Should I go with the old f3 in 2022 or should I wait for something newer. Like the f4 (I heard it has the same SD 870) so it's not much of a difference when the F3 is now on sale 10.0.0.0.1 192.168.1.254.
Does anyone know if the Poco f3 will officially get the android 14 update next year.. I'm worried about the updates.. Because its already 1 year old and I don't know for how long will it still get updated
How is the phone in general.. And how's the battery life specifically?

it depends of how much you spend for it and your needs. F3 is powerful, smooth with a great display. camera is okay (with gcam), but proximity sensor is garbage and phone will unlock in your pocket when you receive a call. Also there a tons of good rom for it, like arrow os or crdroid. if you pay less than 250 euros it is a great deal. between 300 and 400 you could go for poco x4gt or f4, or realme gt neo 2 5g or gt 5g. also some snap 778 phones are great if you don't mind downgrading soc, like Samsung a52s which has great camera with ois and ingress protection, or realme gt master edition which is lightweighted, well balanced and can be found around 200 euros.

its not worth it now. better buy poco F4. non GT version. the one with SD 870 processor.

The 8/256 version was at 239 euros on amazon prime day and it was probably the best phone that you can get for that price. If the price is right, Poco F3 is the way to go

I bought the 8Gb versione on june 2022. Why the F3?? It is well developed on XDA, low price, do you need anything else?? Not for me. The F4 is similar to the F3 but it is expensive. This is why I chose the F3

F3 good at 200-240 euros. Like Amazon prime sale. Don't buy it in 2022 if the price is above 240€. There is OnePlus Nord 2 at 267€. OnePlus 9 with sd888 at 330€.samsung s21 ultra at 499. pixel 6

I've bought mine one month ago (8/256,325€ free shipping), and I don't regret nothing. The device is superb, and the custom rom support is amazing.
I've been comparing, with the other new members of poco family, and f3 beat them all on those comparisons.

lapirado said:
I've bought mine one month ago (325€ free shipping), and I don't regret nothing. The device is superb, and the custom rom support is amazing.
I've been comparing, with the other new members of poco family, and f3 beat them all on those comparisons
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I have a fresh f3 bought a month ago 200€ if anyone is interested can contact. Eu only

POCO F3 was also the one I chose. I bought it 2 weeks ago. I'm very pleased with it.

I bought the poco F3 2 weeks ago after a thorough analyze BUT this is my personal opinion based on my personal needs
My main criteria were in order of importance :
Good battery life : my previous phone was a Moto g8 power (2020) which achieved between 10-11h SoT for me. I would be comfortable with at least 7h for the new phone.
Excellent ROM support on XDA : at least one official ROM
Amoled screen
Powerfull : above 40000 pts with AnTuTu V8
Non curve screen
350 USD max (shipping included)
After cross-comparing a LOT of phone on gsmarena and XDA, I came down to the Poco f3.
Hope that helps
BTW, comparison between Poco f4 and f3 with Gsmarena shows differences only in :
Camera area
Better fast charging
Worst endurance (battery life)
It was not significant for MY purpose.

Whatever you do don't get Samsung as it's not at all developer friendly compared to Xiaomi devices.
For instance Samsung deliberately removed fastboot and replaced it with a fake empty one that doesn't even do anything.
Then they force your device to be selinux Enforcing at all times and even setenforce 0 doesn't work. To go permissive you must first hack your own kernel. What a joke...

Bought it for 229€ during Amazon prime days, I just unlocked the bootloader and installed the miui eu rom.... And I can tell you that it's a beast for my usage... This phone will probably last 4-5 years for me.

PocoF3_owner said:
Bought it for 229€ during Amazon prime days, I just unlocked the bootloader and installed the miui eu rom.... And I can tell you that it's a beast for my usage... This phone will probably last 4-5 years for me.
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best deal

Hey Guys,
Seem here alot of F3 user so my question :
1) miui 12.5.6 global stable - worst battery life, not good & not consistent
2) miui 12.5.5 global stable - currently using now decent battery life with SOT 5 - 6 hours, some time 7 hours SOT, but overnight battery before & after sleep not consistent sometime eat 2~3% sometime 5%...
3) Saw youtuber suggested miui 12.5.3 global stable & below that number rom will be good battery life so any users using miui 12.5.3 global stable can you post/show battery life result is it true good ? Appreciate your sharing

PocoF3_owner said:
Bought it for 229€ during Amazon prime days, I just unlocked the bootloader and installed the miui eu rom.... And I can tell you that it's a beast for my usage... This phone will probably last 4-5 years for me.
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Do you get OTA update while using MIUI EU Rom

The proximity sensor really is a dealbreaker for me, i wouldn't buy this phone again.

4Style said:
The proximity sensor really is a dealbreaker for me, i wouldn't buy this phone again.
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What is the issue with the proximity sensor?

4Style said:
The proximity sensor really is a dealbreaker for me, i wouldn't buy this phone again.
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If your POCO F3 still under warranty than immediately send to Xiaomi center to complain & fix, They has help me & my parent (Both device) fixed to change New sensor & Yes after change it become much better specially less black screen during listen Whatsapp/wechat voice message...

Its late august and there isn't much dev support for the f4. Is the f3 still worth it or should we consider any other device?

if you reach the conclusion of getting a poco f3. Get mi 10t instead