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[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

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bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

DroidBois said:
I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

anotherdroid said:
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
Sent from my HTC Desire

He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

2.3.6 Help w/ Roms & Data Issues?

Im a Noob here guys, so let me appologize in advance...Ive been a little trigger shy about starting this thread to say the least, so here are my issues...
Like a noob I updated my new gs2 right out of the box to 2.3.6 without even considering problems with roms. I was able to gain root access with zedomaxs gs2root.com tutorial, as I did with my last gs2 on original firmware.
I am currently on juggs 4.1 & its working nicley except my data speeds have dropped from 12-15 mbps down to 2-6. My battery life seems to be okay but i dont remember how stock was as i left the gs2 for a short while for the amaze wich had AWFULL battery life, so anything seems great in comparison. I want to get my data speeds corrected, & I also would really like to move to bombaridier rom but im not sure exactly wich roms I will be able to use with the ota upgrade I did? I was going to flash it & see if everything went okay as it seems to be a very attractive rom for my needs, but I would rather not do anymore flashing without learning if there are any risks with flashing roms while on the 2.3.6 firmware, & whether or not I am going to be experiencing issues on all roms with this particular update on my device.
I am also curious as to if I will be able to unroot my gs2 since I rooted it with the new firmware this time.
My final question is are there any stable AOSP roms I could use with this firmware? I am by no means experienced but I have rooted and flashed several roms on my old htc sensation but i have never tried aosp, so i suppose I may just be interested in an opinion on this matter.
I have read alot of info/threads on xda so I dont want to come off as lazy, & my brain is almost overloading with the vast amount of info I read on this AMAZINGLY informative site. I am a person who LOVES to gain knowledge & self educate, so your site has become quite addictive to me over the past 6-8 weeks!
I am very sorry, but I can be a little long winded, & if anyone out there could forgive my lack of understanding and provide me with any advice or guidance on what my options may be, & if I have any possible risks running roms on this firmware, I would be more than happy to click your donate button, as I am so very appreciative of all the free knowledge the great ppl of xda have provided me! I feel lucky to have access to your site, & I am looking foreward to one day becoming a productive & contributing member.
Thank you, Joe T.- androholic
"Android is my Anti-Drug"

androholic said:
Im a Noob here guys, so let me appologize in advance...Ive been a little trigger shy about starting this thread to say the least, so here are my issues...
Like a noob I updated my new gs2 right out of the box to 2.3.6 without even considering problems with roms. I was able to gain root access with zedomaxs gs2root.com tutorial, as I did with my last gs2 on original firmware.
I am currently on juggs 4.1 & its working nicley except my data speeds have dropped from 12-15 mbps down to 2-6. My battery life seems to be okay but i dont remember how stock was as i left the gs2 for a short while for the amaze wich had AWFULL battery life, so anything seems great in comparison. I want to get my data speeds corrected, & I also would really like to move to bombaridier rom but im not sure exactly wich roms I will be able to use with the ota upgrade I did?
I am also curious as to if I will be able to unroot my gs2 since I rooted it with the new firmware this time.
My final question is are there any stable AOSP roms I could use with this firmware? I am by no means experienced but I have rooted and flashed several roms on my old htc sensation but i have never tried aosp, so i suppose I may just be interested in an opinion on this matter.
I have read alot of info/threads on xda so I dont want to come off as lazy, & my brain is almost overloading with the vast amount of info I read on this AMAZINGLY informative site. I am a person who LOVES to gain knowledge & self educate, so your site has become quite addictive to me over the past 6-8 weeks!
I am very sorry, but I can be a little long winded, & if anyone out there could forgive my lack of understanding I would be more than happy to click your donate button, as I am so very appreciative of all the free knowledge the great ppl of xda have provided me! I feel lucky to have access to your site, & I am looking foreward to one day becoming a productive & contributing member.
Thank you, Joe T.- androholic
"Android is my Anti-Drug"
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The upgrade to 2.3.6 enables wifi calling and a new radio. So far, I haven't noticed any problems with the update.
I'm not familiar with the root method you used. I used the Odin method to root mine. It is possible to go back to completely stock though. So, you don't have to worry. I believe there is a thread in the general section, or development section about doing so.
There are two CM7 roms in the dev section. Both are basically alpha builds and have some bugs. There are also two roms the have touchwiz removed.
I'm not sure about the data speed issues. Maybe try flashing a different rom and see if it changes?

v8dreaming said:
The upgrade to 2.3.6 enables wifi calling and a new radio. So far, I haven't noticed any problems with the update.
I'm not familiar with the root method you used. I used the Odin method to root mine. It is possible to go back to completely stock though. So, you don't have to worry. I believe there is a thread in the general section, or development section about doing so.
There are two CM7 roms in the dev section. Both are basically alpha builds and have some bugs. There are also two roms the have touchwiz removed.
I'm not sure about the data speed issues. Maybe try flashing a different rom and see if it changes?
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The method I used to root was odin as well. If I flash bombaridier I would assume I am safe then? I also have my stock root backup, as well as a backup of juggernaut 4.1. I have done the unroot process before, I just was not sure if it would have the same outcome since I rooted with odin on the new firmware. also,am I okay to flash any rom, even though I am on the 2.3.6 firmware or are there any that may cause serious problems being they were probably written for previous firmware versions? THANK YOU so very much for your reply! I dont want to beat a dead horse, I guess I am looking for confirmation that flashing roms on the new firmware, isnt a big no no , or requires any xtra steps....Thanks again to you!

Any help?

Hello, my name is Shahin. I am getting a Sprint SGSIII soon. I would like to know a few things.
First of all, i would like to know how stable aosp/aokp/etc (non touchwhiz) is.
second, What is the most stable OC kernel for 4.2.1 what is the max safe OC
third what roms does it work with
and fourth, any recommendations on roms?
Thanks in advance
also, any other advice? im coming from the E4GT... from boost mobile. also i had a ZTE Warp. thanks again

The first thing you should do is check out THIS thread. As for advice on Roms, that's all subjective. What I mean is that there are a lot of variables. How you use your Rom. What you like ? AOSP, TW, AOKP, CM,.... As for the Kernel question, it depends on what Rom choice you make. How high you can OC depends partially on your device. Not all devices are the same. One thing to keep in mind is that, just because you can Overclock to lets say 2.1gHz . That does not guarantee that your device will be any smoother, faster, or more stable. In fact on some devices it has the exact opposite effect. Keep in mind that what you want is an overall better performing device.

eisawi99 said:
Hello, my name is Shahin. I am getting a Sprint SGSIII soon. I would like to know a few things.
First of all, i would like to know how stable aosp/aokp/etc (non touchwhiz) is.
second, What is the most stable OC kernel for 4.2.1 what is the max safe OC
third what roms does it work with
and fourth, any recommendations on roms?
Thanks in advance
also, any other advice? im coming from the E4GT... from boost mobile. also i had a ZTE Warp. thanks again
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Galaxy S3. It's a really good phone and I'm sure you'll love it.
As far as your questions:
In my opinion, AOSP is pretty stable. There are some things that have been reported, such as hand-off issues between 4G and 3G, but all-in-all it's stable enough for most users.
This is typically a phone-by-phone and user-by-user type of question. It also depends on which Rom you're running. Some kernels don't play well with some Roms. One of the more popular Kernels on here is Ktoonsez's kernel. Just make sure you download the correct one for the Rom you're using (4.1.x vs 4.2.x, AOSP vs. TW, etc). BMS also is relatively widely used. In terms of overclocking, it really depends on your phone. Some phones handle it better than others. Hard to say what your "optimal" oc speed will be. In my opinion, the processor is powerful enough to handle most everything w/o OC-ing, but others like it extra-smooth.
Any Roms in the Sprint Forum will work with your Sprint GS3. Do not flash international Roms or Mods on this phone. They will, without a doubt, brick your phone and you'll get ridiculed by a majority of XDA. If you want to flash a Rom, just look through the original post and the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see if there are any issues with it.
Rom recommendations are kind of tricky. My setup is shown in my Signature, and I really like it. But there are many different tastes out there and you just have to find the Rom that fits yours.
Other Advice:
XDA can be a finicky community at times (myself included). But despite some snarky responses, we're mostly here to help.
It's always best to do a search before posting a question, and we love people who read through and find what they're looking for.
Hitting the thanks button is always good if someone helps you out.
Have fun flashing!

topherk said:
Welcome to the wonderful world of Galaxy S3. It's a really good phone and I'm sure you'll love it.
As far as your questions:
In my opinion, AOSP is pretty stable. There are some things that have been reported, such as hand-off issues between 4G and 3G, but all-in-all it's stable enough for most users.
This is typically a phone-by-phone and user-by-user type of question. It also depends on which Rom you're running. Some kernels don't play well with some Roms. One of the more popular Kernels on here is Ktoonsez's kernel. Just make sure you download the correct one for the Rom you're using (4.1.x vs 4.2.x, AOSP vs. TW, etc). BMS also is relatively widely used. In terms of overclocking, it really depends on your phone. Some phones handle it better than others. Hard to say what your "optimal" oc speed will be. In my opinion, the processor is powerful enough to handle most everything w/o OC-ing, but others like it extra-smooth.
Any Roms in the Sprint Forum will work with your Sprint GS3. Do not flash international Roms or Mods on this phone. They will, without a doubt, brick your phone and you'll get ridiculed by a majority of XDA. If you want to flash a Rom, just look through the original post and the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see if there are any issues with it.
Rom recommendations are kind of tricky. My setup is shown in my Signature, and I really like it. But there are many different tastes out there and you just have to find the Rom that fits yours.
Other Advice:
XDA can be a finicky community at times (myself included). But despite some snarky responses, we're mostly here to help.
It's always best to do a search before posting a question, and we love people who read through and find what they're looking for.
Hitting the thanks button is always good if someone helps you out.
Have fun flashing!
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also, i realized that sprint and cricket share a forum. does this mean that the roms are interchangeable? thanks.

eisawi99 said:
also, i realized that sprint and cricket share a forum. does this mean that the roms are interchangeable? thanks.
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Are you on Cricket?
I'm not horribly familiar with Cricket, but I've been told that once you get the phone working on the Cricket network, that Sprint Roms will also work for it. CNexus is much more familiar with it than I am.

no, i was just wondering... but thanks for the info.

Yes, you can flash ROMs made for the Sprint version if you are on cricket. Should not mess with whatever flashing procedure you took or whatnot.
But of course, always make a backup

Stock Firmwares (SM-P600 and others)

Hey everyone.
Been awhile since I've been back here and I wasn't sure about all the new changes.
Couldn't find any information regarding the stock firmwares and if we are allowed to upload them here.
I'll Explain Further:
Stock Samsung firmwares used to be free to download at good speeds from samsung-updates (I think?), but now they go through download services that cost money unless you want to wait 8 hours for a slower download.
There were threads that listed all the stock firmwares bwfore and I was wondering if I could start a thread for downloading all the SM-P600 stock firmwares (and other Note 10.1" 2014 variations)?
Nice to be back and finally have a device I can play with. It's been YEARS :highfive:

h311sdr0id said:
Hey everyone.
Been awhile since I've been back here and I wasn't sure about all the new changes.
Couldn't find any information regarding the stock firmwares and if we are allowed to upload them here.
I'll Explain Further:
Stock Samsung firmwares used to be free to download at good speeds from samsung-updates (I think?), but now they go through download services that cost money unless you want to wait 8 hours for a slower download.
There were threads that listed all the stock firmwares bwfore and I was wondering if I could start a thread for downloading all the SM-P600 stock firmwares (and other Note 10.1" 2014 variations)?
Nice to be back and finally have a device I can play with. It's been YEARS :highfive:
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Hi h311sdr0id,
i see you are a developer... If you say you wan't to play with that device, does that mean you have intention to build a custom rom or kernel for p600
This would be the best news since 6 month for p600 owners!

Though I'm not a fan of having to wait, it seems a fair comprimise. Typical "freemium" model. Slow is fine for occasional flashers, but the serious ones will want to pay. It costs to host/manage these updates so seems perfectly fair to me...

Stogie87 said:
Hi h311sdr0id,
i see you are a developer... If you say you wan't to play with that device, does that mean you have intention to build a custom rom or kernel for p600
This would be the best news since 6 month for p600 owners!
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I am trying to get back into the realm of XDA and get used to how things are (before I had to take a little vacation). The last device I developed on was a Note 3/4..
I had a lot of people pretty pissed off at me for leaving when I did, but it wasn't my choice. So I need to re-clarify a few things with anyone looking for my first post in awhile:
Any insider information I had before this post was made here, is no longer something I can talk about. If you haven't had a chance to look around and read about what happened to me, you should. I am sorry for letting anyone down, but I had to choose my freedom over a device.
Plus, any information I had (including all of the work I had saved on my computers/devices) was taken from me. I have no access to any of it and I will never see it again.
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So now that that's out of the way... Yes, I do plan on working on a ROM for the P600.
My work was usually geared towards ODEXED Stock Roms with all the fun stuff available that DEODEX had to offer. Many of the tweaks that were strictly available to DEODEX ROMs back then had to be reverse-coded to work with ODEX ROMs. I spent a lot of time dropping down ROMs from 1.2GB down to 250MB with add-on available. But I ran (and still run) these tiny ROMs on some of my other devices and they work great to this day.
I am working on a new Live AIO Distro (Debian/Ubuntu) for Android Development. That will continue to be my largest project. But I will be working on the P600 exclusively for a while. I just got one as a gift from another DEV.
If there's anything you are interested in specifically, please let me know. I will open a ROM Thread pretty soon to get some more ideas of what people are looking for.
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Though I'm not a fan of having to wait, it seems a fair comprimise. Typical "freemium" model. Slow is fine for occasional flashers, but the serious ones will want to pay. It costs to host/manage these updates so seems perfectly fair to me...
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I used to run my ROMs with weekly updates and fixes when they needed them. But for the most part, people didn't have many issues with my ROMs because I would spend a lot of time on them and test them thoroughly before releasing them. But I also kept to only a few devices at a time. Many big developers have many devices they're working on and so it's hard to spend too much time on one or two devices specifically. Only knew a few DEVs that really kept up on devices like hat back in the day.
But, no. I won't need money for anything. I have plenty of resources available to me that won't cost anyone anything. I do this as a hobby.

Thanks for that comprehensive statement. This are great news, because development for p600 was very poor during the last month...
I think the most important things for p600 we would like to have are:
- a stable stock kernel with permissive rights
- development support for cm 13, because many things doesn't work with it like camera, IR Blaster, Screen Mirroring and we have bad battery life. It also isn't compatible with LP 5.1.1 Bootloader (causing sound issues, random reboots etc.)
- A fast and debloatet stock rom with permissive rights, performance and batterylife optimizations
If you would be able to work on only one of these points, you would be a hero for most p600 owners

Any chance you would be willing to work on a sm-607t rom?
Im not cooking since windows mobile, but ill test.
I can also upload a backup of the stock rom to mega so you dont have to wait 8 hrs to download it.

Nougat Kernel comparison

Dear friends, i'm creating this thread in order to know your experience with different kernels wich came out recently for Android Nougat.
I'm currently using r37 from @eng.stk and i like a lot but i never tried other too.
So... share your experiences, battery graphics, benchmarks, etc...

Stop this nonsense please. Comparing different different kernels is just unethical.. Mods please close such type of threads.. Such threads are getting increased day by day..

You should find the best one for yourself by trying them
After sometime, you'll be a flashcolic like me

SpartaKurd said:
You should find the best one for yourself by trying them
After sometime, you'll be a flashcolic like me
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Isn't for me, this topic is for the users clear all doubts.

jocaboss said:
Isn't for me, this topic is for the users clear all doubts.
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Got it man, you're right!