Anandtech released this article:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
Basically Oneplus has a list of most used applications and in them it throttles CPU usage heavily by DISABLING the X1 entirely or underclocking it.
For example the phone only gets 10% of the performance in Chrome compared to other Snapdragon 888 phones.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this?
fdgfgd said:
Anandtech released this article:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
Basically Oneplus has a list of most used applications and in them it throttles CPU usage heavily by DISABLING the X1 entirely or underclocking it.
For example the phone only gets 10% of the performance in Chrome compared to other Snapdragon 888 phones.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this?
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Custom roms are using some of the oneplus kernel code in order to make it compatible, but those parts of the functionality might not be present in something like LineageOS or crDroid. Haven't checked though. This is an interesting find, I imagine it's a power usage adaptation.
Update: I am testing these benchmarks now on my crDroid install, will report back results
fdgfgd said:
Anandtech released this article:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
Basically Oneplus has a list of most used applications and in them it throttles CPU usage heavily by DISABLING the X1 entirely or underclocking it.
For example the phone only gets 10% of the performance in Chrome compared to other Snapdragon 888 phones.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this?
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Running the latest build of crDroid, and keep in mind I have plenty of apps installed so your mileage may vary, I score 84.6 in speedtest 2.0 on chrome (chrome is heavy so I'm not surprised it scores lower than vivaldi). Surprisingly I score 94.744 on jetstream 2, which is higher than vivaldi scored on OOS in the article you linked.
Hope this helps!
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Running the latest build of crDroid, and keep in mind I have plenty of apps installed so your mileage may vary, I score 84.6 in speedtest 2.0 on chrome (chrome is heavy so I'm not surprised it scores lower than vivaldi). Surprisingly I score 94.744 on jetstream 2, which is higher than vivaldi scored on OOS in the article you linked.
Hope this helps!
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Nice! Thanks for testing it and finding a viable workaround for this.
Guess the other solution would be to fork the kernel and remove or change the code regarding this QoS/Throttling in apps, the Anandtech article actually linked to it in github where the culprit may be.
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fdgfgd said:
Anandtech released this article:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
Basically Oneplus has a list of most used applications and in them it throttles CPU usage heavily by DISABLING the X1 entirely or underclocking it.
For example the phone only gets 10% of the performance in Chrome compared to other Snapdragon 888 phones.
I was wondering if there is a workaround for this?
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The article doesn't seem to mention how the test phone was configured. I'm always skim reading so I may have missed it but configuration should be the first consideration.
Disable all power management and optimization... destroyer of worlds.
Some of the power management features you may want to use, most seem to only cause erratic behavior and even increased battery usage. Nothing's for free.
Dependencies... remember many services and akps are intertwined and dependent on others. One small change can cause big far reaching consequences.
This issue may not be caused by the above but it's worth a shot to play with the power settings configuration.
Androids are like bad gf's, they wuv to be played with
By the way, in Chrome there also is a flag #cpu-affinity-restrict-to-little-cores if anyone didn't know.
chrome://flags/#cpu-affinity-restrict-to-little-cores
It's a kind of power management "feature" which the user can't alter.
Neither is changing Chrome flags going to do anything.
The only way to counter this without changing the kernel or ROM is by spoofing the APK but then you lose 120hz because ALL of this is based on lists embedded in OP OS framework.
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It's a kind of power management "feature" which the user can't alter.
Neither is changing Chrome flags going to do anything.
The only way to counter this without changing the kernel or ROM is by spoofing the APK but then you lose 120hz because ALL of this is based on lists embedded in OP OS framework.
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Will using a different Chrome based browser help or is it an equal opportunity Chrome hater?
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Will using a different Chrome based browser help or is it an equal opportunity Chrome hater?
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Yeah, in the article they used Vivaldi which is a Chromium based browser and scored 10x more than in regular chrome. But it'll force you to 60hz unfortunately...
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Yeah, in the article they used Vivaldi which is a Chromium based browser and scored 10x more than in regular chrome. But it'll force you to 60hz unfortunately...
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One thing I don't like about stock Androids is unlike Windows you can't easily modify things at the core level.
I crashed and burned quit a few XP OS clones playing in the registry... fun times
This makes perfect sense. I came from the S21 and that thing was fast. Now since using the OP9pro, its noticably laggy. I was scratching my head on it for a while. Thanks!
Don't worry guys. A nice fix is on the way soon. Omega kernel developer already has a test build that we are testing that does away with this BS throttling. Phone feels amazing now.
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Don't worry guys. A nice fix is on the way soon. Omega kernel developer already has a test build that we are testing that does away with this BS throttling. Phone feels amazing now.
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I am dying for this update
Burt Squirtz said:
Don't worry guys. A nice fix is on the way soon. Omega kernel developer already has a test build that we are testing that does away with this BS throttling. Phone feels amazing now.
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I was literally just coming on to ask what we were doing about this. This would be well worth rooting for. Cheers!
Will this still allow 120Hz on the supported apps?
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I am dying for this update
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It's out. Post in thread '[KERNEL] [OOS] Omega Kernel OOS11 [July 7, 2021]' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-oos-omega-kernel-oos11-july-7-2021.4271027/post-85292109
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It's out. Post in thread '[KERNEL] [OOS] Omega Kernel OOS11 [July 7, 2021]' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-oos-omega-kernel-oos11-july-7-2021.4271027/post-85292109
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I just installed it and it seems to work and the issue is gone!
Ran Speedometer on Chrome to test:
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After further testing I can see that the X1 core doesn't reach it's maximum clock of 2.8GHz but stops at 2.3GHz in Chrome.
Something else is limiting Chrome from reaching the maximum potential of the CPU which is not happening in Vivaldi. If that limitation was lifted then score of ~100 should be possible in Speedometer test and that would be on par with other 888 phones.
Very shady of OnePlus.
Finally I managed to find the ROM side of throttling and removed it, now we have full performance in Chrome stable (and ALL other blacklisted apps)! No more CPU freq throttling and Speedometer score of 115
fdgfgd said:
Finally I managed to find the ROM side of throttling and removed it, now we have full performance in Chrome stable (and ALL other blacklisted apps)! No more CPU freq throttling and Speedometer score of 115
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Would you care to share how all of us can make these adjustments within oxygen os, if that's even possible?
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Hi.
I'm have now rewritten the Spreadsheet and will shortly be integrating my CPU benchmarks and GPU benchmarks into the same sheet (not really that interesting or anything but it's there if you want to see exactly how things are worked out) but it explains why the progress has been slow recently. I have now taken this thread over from Arkymedes - and a HUGE thanks to him for creating the spreadsheet and doing most of the benchmarks which are still being referenced in them. He has done a brilliant job!
This page will continue to keep the tests strictly to GPU performance. CPU performance can be viewed here.
(like Arkymedes) I will take in consideration the clock used in each ROM and try to use the maximum allowed by the kernel using SetCPU. HOWEVER, all rom's will be tested at 691 MHz for consistency and any other frequencies will be detailed.
About JIT, unfortunately, all Arkmedes tests show that it doesn't affect 3D performance YET, since all this apps are not properly optimized and didn't take JIT into account. However, this may change with Froyo builds so keep an eye out.
All the ROM's clocked @ 691MHz "Performance" under SetCPU, unless specified otherwise. All tests are conducted 5 times and an average is taken. The tests are carried out in Aeroplane mode with no widgets running on the desktop. No apps are installed aside from the benchmark apps and Apps2SD is used (if enabled by the ROM). The latest version of the benchmark software is always used (they usually only add support for new phones in updates rather than changing benchmark parameters).
Benchmark apps:
Neocore - Qualcomm's own benchmark tool for 3D performance. Measured in FPS
Benchmark - Softweg's test suite for benchmarking. Only the GPU test done here to account for 2D performance. Measured by an internal score.
An3DBench - Tests based on jPCT, a free 3D engine for Java. 7 tests showing the capabilities of the engine. Measured by an internal score.
Note that all the tests mean: The higher the score, the better.
Anyway, here it goes
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A little suggestion: you should specify wether whe rom is sense or vanilla, and also the CPU clock used for the tests.
Can't wait!
that's a long couple of hours.......
Are you going to do VillainROM 10.2 with Sense + JIT enabled? If not I can try and do a benchmark.
Thread updated
Please Note:
I believe in the EzHero 2.7 stats, that jit is not enabled, with jit EzHero 2.7 is equal or greater than EzHero 2.0
maybe link each of the roms in the first thread for people to easily find...being quite new here i cant fins the Androbin-cr2-5.0.7...what ever that one is...
Your efforts are highly appreciated, good job.
But there is a problem: you didn't say which ROM is JIT enabled and which is not, because as you see CPU benchmarks have better results on JIT enabled ROMs, even though, as you can see, 3D is not affected.
My bench marks
My benchmarks with EzHero 2.7+ JIT:
Linpack- 4.886
Neocore w/ sound- 30.2FPS
Neocore w/o sound- 33.2FPS
Quadrant Standard- 280
Benchmark Pi- 7222 milliseconds
Very good job on the post, well done keeping us informed!
Hello!
What I'm trying to do here is to benchmark any version that I can find in these forums WITHOUT any further optmization. The benchmarkings are done OUT OF THE BOX
So, if I have to MANUALLY enable JIT or any OC AFTER the flashing, it will NOT show in these graphics!
I didn't do that because it is just impossible for me to keep track of every single optmization that can be done to every single one of this ROM's. I just don't have the time and resources for that.
So again, all this tests are done straight after the flashing of the downloaded ROM (logically, after some reboots and bla bla bla).
I really hope that you guys understand that. It's not a way to show which ROM is better, since there are MANY more factors that dictate that, like BT calls, GPS and so on. It's just a way to measure mostly 3D performance out of the box with the ROM's you provide.
sheridan2000 said:
maybe link each of the roms in the first thread for people to easily find...being quite new here i cant fins the Androbin-cr2-5.0.7...what ever that one is...
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That's a good idea, but I guess the WIKI sticked in the first page should have done the job. It will be redundant but I can try to keep track of them.
Man sad day, all you have to do in EzHero to enable jit is go to the terminal app and type jit-on.
Still, job well done! Kudos!
xenoside said:
Man sad day, all you have to do in EzHero to enable jit is go to the terminal app and type jit-on.
Still, job well done! Kudos!
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I will add EZHero 2.7 with JIT enabled after Italy x Paraguay
Arkymedes said:
I will add EZHero 2.7 with JIT enabled after Italy x Paraguay
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World Cup always comes first my friend lol
its raining pretty hard in the game...
anyways, so 2.0 is JIT enabled and 2.7 is not in your graph? because huge difference in linpack scores with the older having a better score.
you should also mention Benchmark Pi - lower the score, the better.
-2y2k- said:
its raining pretty hard in the game...
anyways, so 2.0 is JIT enabled and 2.7 is not in your graph? because huge difference in linpack scores with the older having a better score.
you should also mention Benchmark Pi - lower the score, the better.
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Yeah, 2.0 is jit enabled, but now 2.7 is optional due to complaints and split decisions. I posted the benchmarks with jit on the last post of the front page
im a Sense guy but its been awhile since I tried a non-sense one, your ROM is rrreally tempting right now lol
-2y2k- said:
im a Sense guy but its been awhile since I tried a non-sense one, your ROM is rrreally tempting right now lol
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Well vanilla Eclair and EzHero are both great roms, heck even Androbin is tied with those two.
In the Quadrant Graph, androbin doesn't have his bar.
I ran Quadrant Pro at 1802mhz on the CPU and 512mhz on the GPU (Franco Kernel & Jelly Belly ROM)
This was the result.
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Did your phone explode? Because I don't see a picture.
And you posted this here..... Why?
Slemhelge said:
I ran Quadrant Pro at 1802mhz on the CPU and 512mhz on the GPU (Franco Kernel & Jelly Belly ROM)
This was the result.
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thats lousy! id be embarrassed to show that off to people. i suggest a kernel change. anyways, that post does not belong here in development, nor anywhere near development heres trinity at 1728mhz..
simms22 said:
thats lousy! id be embarrassed to show that off to people. i suggest a kernel change heres trinity at 1728mhz..
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LMAO! Damn you simms
can't beat simms at his own game =P
First off, that's embarrassingly low. I've gotten 4,000+ at 1.6GHz. Second why the hell did you post that in this section? I thought you needed 10 posts to post in a dev forum. Mods please close and OP read the damn rules.
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can't beat simms at his own game =P
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lol, unfortunately not true though. there are a few that know how.
i just think that anybody running at 1802mhz should know how to propery use it or not be allowed to run that high of an oc. i mean, the op isnt getting any benefit from it unless you call a higher rate of battery loss a benefit. learn how to benefit from a high oc like this, or dont use it. its pointless to show off that youre using a high oc if a slightly oc'd(1344mhz kernel) can run laps around your phone. dont get me wrong, i know that franco kernel is capable, but this does it no justice.
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thats lousy! id be embarrassed to show that off to people. i suggest a kernel change. anyways, that post does not belong here in development, nor anywhere near development heres trinity at 1728mhz..
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trinity FTW!
Then someone do tell me a good kernel and how to do a proper OC thats stable, efficient etc etc.. Im **** at OC'ing.. i just put franco kernel 512mhz and was allowed the option to go 1802mhz, which ive never seen before..
What development are you doing here?
None? Then why is it posted in development?!!
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Then someone do tell me a good kernel and how to do a proper OC thats stable, efficient etc etc.. Im **** at OC'ing.. i just put franco kernel 512mhz and was allowed the option to go 1802mhz, which ive never seen before..
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Franco Kernel is a great kernel, yo must be doing wrong. I have achieved that score with franco's at 1.3 OC and Stock JB ROM...
Slemhelge said:
Then someone do tell me a good kernel and how to do a proper OC thats stable, efficient etc etc.. Im **** at OC'ing.. i just put franco kernel 512mhz and was allowed the option to go 1802mhz, which ive never seen before..
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try them all, or a few different kernels at least. every phone is different, and will react differently to different kernels. also, just because you can oc to 1802, doesnt mean that your phone will properly handle it. at this point, it looks like you arent getting any of the gain from this high oc(some loss actually), but are going through your battery like you are. first off, at that high oc, turn off thermal throttling if you are going to benchmark. play with adjusting voltages until you find your sweet spot at that oc. try ocing less too, your phone might not like 1802, or 1700, or 1600.. not many phones do. also, when you benchmark, benchmark with your hiest cpu speed/highest cpu speed(1802/1802) so that you dont scale and actually bench 1802mhz.
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turn off thermal throttling if you are going to benchmark.
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This is the key point that I believe the OP forgot to do.
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This is the key point that I believe the OP forgot to do.
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very likely youre right.
Not even worth overclocking honestly.
Only for benchmark scores, your phone most likely doesn't run that much faster.
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Not even worth overclocking honestly.
Only for benchmark scores, your phone most likely doesn't run that much faster.
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funny, only people that dont overclock say that, i guess they really do believe it for themselves. but in reality, there is a difference. if its a slight overclock, its not that different. when its a big overclock, the difference can be dramatic.
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funny, only people that dont overclock say that, i guess they really do believe it for themselves. but in reality, there is a difference. if its a slight overclock, its not that different. when its a big overclock, the difference can be dramatic.
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I have overclocked before, I've done it before on the GNex as well.
I mean it was a huge increase of ability to a single core phone and early dual cores but for a phone already seemingly perfect on the software side, the phone already screams as stock clock speeds.
Besides, is it worth the probable loss of battery life? A marginally higher benchmark score? Things opening 1 or 2ms faster?
This is all just my opinion, I have no hard facts behind all this, but at least in my own personal testing and experimenting, there was no obvious benefit.
Provided you might be right, I've never OC'ed past 1.5, but beyond that, what's the effect on the health of the hardware, and like I said, battery life?
I could be totally wrong and I'm not against admitting being wrong.
Just personal preference I guess.
I Am Marino said:
I have overclocked before, I've done it before on the GNex as well.
I mean it was a huge increase of ability to a single core phone and early dual cores but for a phone already seemingly perfect on the software side, the phone already screams as stock clock speeds.
Besides, is it worth the probable loss of battery life? A marginally higher benchmark score? Things opening 1 or 2ms faster?
This is all just my opinion, I have no hard facts behind all this, but at least in my own personal testing and experimenting, there was no obvious benefit.
Provided you might be right, I've never OC'ed past 1.5, but beyond that, what's the effect on the health of the hardware, and like I said, battery life?
I could be totally wrong and I'm not against admitting being wrong.
Just personal preference I guess.
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agreed. i myself use stock frequencies on franco kernel i've used almost all kernels and roms possible but now i've stuck with aokp n franco smooth even when under-clocked to 1 Ghz. i find no point of oc'ing other than just benchmarking usually get 3.4-3.3K on quadrant with normal freq.
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funny, only people that dont overclock say that, i guess they really do believe it for themselves. but in reality, there is a difference. if its a slight overclock, its not that different. when its a big overclock, the difference can be dramatic.
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Your phone spends most of its life in the 350/700mhz range.
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Hi guys,
Following the development of CM11 for the Defy(+) by @Quarx, I decided to share the evolution of performance "Nightly".
The results were obtained from the average of 3 tests for each "Nightly", using two app for measuring performance: Quadrant and AnTuTu.
Configuration for testing:
CM11 Nightly (by @Quarx)
Defy+ (MB526)
CPU (OC): 300/20 600/35 900/50 1200/64
CPU (SC): 300/33 600/48 800/58 1000/62
Governor: Interactive
I/O: Deadline
Installation conditions: No clean install (version over version)
TWRP > Advanced Wipe > Dalvik Cache/Cache
Install > Nightly/GApps > Wipe Cache/Dalvik > Reboot System
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Added test on SC (Stock Clock) at the request of @Blechd0se
* Random reboots occurred frequently in the early versions. For me no longer occurs since version 2014.01.24 (except version 2014.01.28, very problematic);
* Crashes occur on Google Search (maybe because I'm using GEL) and Aero Control in the first 4-5 reboots (it seems necessary to stabilize the unclean installs). After, no more crashes!
* @Quarx and @Blechd0se, the greatest variability between consecutive tests in both apps is about IO (reaching 40-60%), by showing up unstable;
BUG @Quarx (and @okij):
Camera: auto-focus doesn't work using size 3.7M (best aspect ratio - the same of screen);
Shortcuts from Apps moved to SD card disappear after reboot;
Battery Drain: 2014.02.08, 2014.02.09, 2014.02.10, 2014.02.11, 2014.02.12;
Battery charge bugs: 2014.02.18, 2014.02.19, 2014.02.20;
Additonal information:
_ Development-related forum (here);
_ Short Path to clean install (here);
_ Bug list by @okij (here);
_ CM11 by @Quarx (here);
_ BaNkS GApps (here) - use only Banks Minimal GApps;
_ For those interested, following link GEL (Google Experience Launcher);
Special thanks for the improvements in the kernel obtained by @Blechd0se!
Sorry for my bad english
Awesome work, keep with this !
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All tests were done with my device using all applications for daily use (added to BaNkS GApps, amounted 159 Apps), connected with the following services: Wi-Fi, Location, 2G/3G and Sync.
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Welcome @Saturnal here on xda and thanks for this nice debut, well done! If possible, update your thread (preferably the opening post) when new nightlies are released.
I just announced your thread here on the CM11 development thread, because many users are mainly reading the dev thread and I think that your thread deserves some attention.
Great work, keep up!
Could you provide some subjective experiance about less measurable performance as well? I think the most interesting and important would be wake up time during calls (for me at least). In this manner it seems to be worse over time on my device (I also don't do clean installs).
Great work! For reference I Can aport my numbers in antutu I get 4789 with a Defy Red lens in the last CM10.2
Thanks for the info! It is nice interesting to see the difference between the builds (and between the effect on the different benchmark-types).
How precisely does it make sense to compare these numbers with benchmarks on other Defy's with other installed apps?
If meaningful, I might do a benchmark of my own Defy.
I ask this because I find my Defy on Wiui to bug/crash/slow down a bit too much lately (after a few months of using it) and therefore I'm thinking of trying another ROM. As I read that Kitkat in general was lighter on RAM-usage, I tought of looking at that direction. (I'm not that interested in the latest GUI etc., rather looking for stability, efficiency and performance.)
Very interesting. For what it is worth, I get AnTuTu score 4893 with 0126, and a score of 5074 with 0205 nightly. The phone is overclocked to 1200 MHz.
okij said:
Welcome @Saturnal here on xda and thanks for this nice debut, well done! If possible, update your thread (preferably the opening post) when new nightlies are released.
I just announced your thread here on the CM11 development thread, because many users are mainly reading the dev thread and I think that your thread deserves some attention.
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Thanks @okij and everyone, I'll update today.:good: Yesterday I had many problems to connect to the forum.
NPeete said:
Great work, keep up!
Could you provide some subjective experiance about less measurable performance as well? I think the most interesting and important would be wake up time during calls (for me at least). In this manner it seems to be worse over time on my device (I also don't do clean installs).
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Sure! Is fairly smooth transition of screens (I'm using GEL). Keeps bug #31 (screen is half blacked out while getting incoming calls) and #26 (screen needs about 5 seconds to wakeup when a call is receive). Crashes occur on Google Search (maybe because GEL) and Aero Control in the first 4-5 reboots (it seems necessary to stabilize the unclean installs).
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Very interesting. For what it is worth, I get AnTuTu score 4893 with 0126, and a score of 5074 with 0205 nightly. The phone is overclocked to 1200 MHz.
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Thanks, but it's clear that I posted averages between 3 tests, so got higher values than those shown in the chart Moreover, different test conditions lead to different values.
:good:Keep doing tests and posting to help all users with more references!
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Thanks for the info! It is nice interesting to see the difference between the builds (and between the effect on the different benchmark-types).
How precisely does it make sense to compare these numbers with benchmarks on other Defy's with other installed apps?
If meaningful, I might do a benchmark of my own Defy.
I ask this because I find my Defy on Wiui to bug/crash/slow down a bit too much lately (after a few months of using it) and therefore I'm thinking of trying another ROM. As I read that Kitkat in general was lighter on RAM-usage, I tought of looking at that direction. (I'm not that interested in the latest GUI etc., rather looking for stability, efficiency and performance.)
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Makes sense to analyze the variation of the benchmarks on the same device in pre-established conditions. So we can see which version is more optimized for use!
If you think about changing ROM, I strongly recommend CM11 by @ Quarx!:good:
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Great work! For reference I Can aport my numbers in antutu I get 4789 with a Defy Red lens in the last CM10.2
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Have got 4853 (AnTuTu) and 1962 (Quadrant), but only posted the averages. Maybe it's time you experience the CM11!
Sent from my Defy+
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I have red lense Defy with GB kernel and latest CM7. No OC, 1000mhz
Antutu score 3900.
Now what is interesting is that you have everything better exceptdatabase I/O. I have 360 and you 215. Hm, Storage I/O is again on your side and nearly double. Mine 425 against your 922+. What is holding down CM11 in this department I wonder.
It is interesting how much results differ. With 0205 nightly I now get consistently over 5200 with AnTuTu. Of course benchmarks results will not translate to real world performance, but 0205 feels very smooth. Telephony problems are gone too, after the build.prop fix.
On the hand, quadrant scores are lower than Saturnal's, average is 1557.
ezantera said:
I have red lense Defy with GB kernel and latest CM7. No OC, 1000mhz
Antutu score 3900.
Now what is interesting is that you have everything better exceptdatabase I/O. I have 360 and you 215. Hm, Storage I/O is again on your side and nearly double. Mine 425 against your 922+. What is holding down CM11 in this department I wonder.
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There is great variability in the score Storage I/O. Have found values between 271-956. See a test using Stock Clock 1000MHz.
Johan_V said:
It is interesting how much results differ. With 0205 nightly I now get consistently over 5200 with AnTuTu. Of course benchmarks results will not translate to real world performance, but 0205 feels very smooth. Telephony problems are gone too, after the build.prop fix.
On the hand, quadrant scores are lower than Saturnal's, average is 1557.
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It's an amazing score. If I get the best value of all tests pass little more than you found, reaching 5235 (AnTuTu).:highfive:
Very good work! Just a suggestion: could u add another benchmark app like basemark?
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espaciosalter20 said:
Very good work! Just a suggestion: could u add another benchmark app like basemark?
Enviado desde mi MI 2S mediante Tapatalk
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Thanks! But, there's a great variety benchmarks in market. I lose a lot of time to obtain consistent results. Unfortunatly, I can't comply your request. Moreover, basemark is focused on graphics performance, while our target is the entire hardware performance combined with CM11.:good:
Hi Everyone,
The F62/M62 is a battery champ for sure, but a lot of reviews indicate that the efficiency is not as great as the M51 with the 730G. Please post your screen on time so that everyone could benefit from it.
PS: I saw in the M51 thread that people were getting 15+ hours of screen on time by disabling a lot of useless apps using Samsung Package disabler pro. Has anyone tried something similar on F62?
Cheers!
Following. I get 17hrs+ on my M51 with Greenify and certain apps disabled. Interested to see how F62 performs in comparison.
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I am getting 10hr of screen on time on average on Samsung f62.
Cons :
Other then that I face random heating near camera
GPU is not that powerfull, Jitters while playing in full graphics : cod, pubg, asphalt 9.
It took 2 hrs to charge the phone.
No system app lock.
Pros :
Display is awesome.
Camera is superb in daylight images.
Full Knox support
Waiting for custom ROMs.
Hi everyone,
Just got a new F62 but I don't find this to be a battery champ. I hardly get any screen on time and the usual brightness is just good enough to see the screen in the dark. Attached is my battery usage. (working from home don't need high brightness). Not entirely sure if this is an issue with my device or if I'm missing something that I should be doing (removing useless apps and installing greenify)
Seems like a lot of people don't know how to measure SOT.
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Seems like a lot of people don't know how to measure SOT.
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What would be a better way to measure it in that case? I'm sort of a noob in this
abishek1789 said:
What would be a better way to measure it in that case? I'm sort of a noob in this
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Download and setup GSAM , then measure option since last unplugged.
Here’s an example.
Limeybastard said:
Here’s an example.
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Got you here's my screenshot
abishek1789 said:
Got you here's my screenshot View attachment 5305501View attachment 5305505
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You know although it may seem alot by the total time it was unplugged, I didn't use it much in the last 2 days as you see, just 5.5 hrs in 48 isn't much
abishek1789 said:
You know although it may seem alot by the total time it was unplugged, I didn't use it much in the last 2 days as you see, just 5.5 hrs in 48 isn't much
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Do a test from "since last unplugged" then report back.
kartikey.chaudhary said:
I am getting 10hr of screen on time on average on Samsung f62.
Cons :
Other then that I face random heating near camera
GPU is not that powerfull, Jitters while playing in full graphics : cod, pubg, asphalt 9.
It took 2 hrs to charge the phone.
No system app lock.
Pros :
Display is awesome.
Camera is superb in daylight images.
Full Knox support
Waiting for custom ROMs.
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Exactly.... i have samsung f62 device. The battery backup is just fab. When it comes to gpu at starting while playing a high end game like asphalt or cod the performance was about 60 fps. Gradually devices gets to heat up and the cpu tends to be slower like it literally drops to 30 in order to reduce heat and yhats a bad thing in this software as of mi and oppo phones the software won't reduce cpu speed even when device gets hot but thats not safe anyway as it may explode. So what's the thing? Nothing just wait for the update of play those high end games in a cool place where cpu gets cooler even when gpu is hot
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Here’s an example.
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Hey is this F62? How are you doing this? I just got my phone, the latest software. My delta on GSAM is 8.4%/h please help.
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Do a test from "since last unplugged" then report back.
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Hey Chief, apologies was caught up with some work stuff! I'm good with the battery now thanks for helping
abishek1789 said:
Hey Chief, apologies was caught up with some work stuff! I'm good with the battery now thanks for helping
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Lol. I don’t even own this phone anymore. Gone back to using the weak note 20 ultra battery.
So far I've managed 10hr 14min with 26% battery still remaining.
That was 2:30hr using Google nav on max brightness. The rest was mostly watching YouTube with mid brightness. I use digital wellbeing to measure my screen time.
Note: My phone is running the latest F62 firmware and I have partially debloaded my phone with ADB
I am getting 10 Hr average SOT with a full charge, almost 10% drop overnight. Software is poorly optimized. Samsung is doing nothing about it. My phone is under the Flipkart Smart Upgrade Plan so I can't even do anything. This is not the performance of a 7000mah battery, I thought the heavyweight was a tradeoff but it's not. Feel cheated.
I can do between 13 and 16 hours of screen time, if I turn on power saving, limit CPU by 70%, reduce brightness by 10%, I get more than 15 hours easy! I also disabled some apps, which maybe helped the autonomy!
How to make game run smooth. Its lags under 20 FPS any sugestions?
Bukaj2M said:
How to make game run smooth. Its lags under 20 FPS any sugestions?
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me to i came back to stag a13
Bukaj2M said:
How to make game run smooth. Its lags under 20 FPS any sugestions?
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It's simple. Don't stay on OOS(COS) 13
Any other sugestions? I like OOS 13 only playing Diablo make me angry.
Would you consider putting your phone into performance mode, then check to see if that helps?
AndyC76 said:
Would you consider putting your phone into performance mode, then check to see if that helps?
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I try this first. Not help.
Strange, I'm fully stock A13 ( le2123 latest version). I installed Diablo immortal earlier and played it for 10mons, with no performance boost enabled. It worked great. Maybe try closing all your background apps?
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Strange, I'm fully stock A13 ( le2123 latest version). I installed Diablo immortal earlier and played it for 10mons, with no performance boost enabled. It worked great. Maybe try closing all your background apps?
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try with high graphic
It happen even if I downgrade graphic. My background apps are closed. In other games like Genshin this problem doesn't exist.
Do you have the graphic settings set to the lowest? Have you locked to 30 FPS? Change display refresh rate to 60 Hz? Have you used Konabess to undervolt and over clock the GPU?
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Do you have the graphic settings set to the lowest? Have you locked to 30 FPS? Change display refresh rate to 60 Hz? Have you used Konabess to undervolt and over clock the GPU?
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This isn't a GPU issue, it's a software one. OnePlus' "optimization" causes poor performance in a number of games.
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This isn't a GPU issue, it's a software one. OnePlus' "optimization" causes poor performance in a number of games.
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I play my games on low/medium setting and I haven't had any issues running games on OOS 13. I do play Diablo Immortal but that is the most intensive (DI is not a very demanding game) I got, using FPS counter, it has never dropped below 30 fps. The only time it does sometimes stutter is when I amd playing while on 4G and the temps on the battery is 38 degrees +
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I play my games on low/medium setting and I haven't had any issues running games on OOS 13. I do play Diablo Immortal but that is the most intensive (DI is not a very demanding game) I got, using FPS counter, it has never dropped below 30 fps. The only time it does sometimes stutter is when I amd playing while on 4G and the temps on the battery is 38 degrees +
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30FPS at low/medium is unacceptable performance for a Snapdragon 888 on that game. I hope you realize that.
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30FPS at low/medium is unacceptable performance for a Snapdragon 888 on that game. I hope you realize that.
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That is what I set it as in the game settings, so it's international. I know the Snapdragon 888 can do way better but he is talking about the performance of Diablo Immortal specifically. What I am trying to say is if you want higher FPS than 20, reduce the graphics settings lower. If you want smoothness, you can go further and lock the FPS to 30 so the game does not attempt to go higher and which something causing frame drops and micro freezes.
I will pick smoothness over graphics and looks any day and 30 FPS constantly is what I call smooth. I also understand since this is my preference, it may not be the same for others.
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That is what I set it as in the game settings, so it's international. I know the Snapdragon 888 can do way better but he is talking about the performance of Diablo Immortal specifically. What I am trying to say is if you want higher FPS than 20, reduce the graphics settings lower. If you want smoothness, you can go further and lock the FPS to 30 so the game does not attempt to go higher and which something causing frame drops and micro freezes.
I will pick smoothness over graphics and looks any day and 30 FPS constantly is what I call smooth. I also understand since this is my preference, it may not be the same for others.
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My Pixel 7 Pro, with a supposedly inferior processor, can run this game on high settings at 60FPS (when I tried it, there were drops with larger mobs but still above 30). My OnePlus 9 could run it on high settings at 60 as well but only on custom ROMs. OnePlus' optimization is the issue. They throttle the SoC way too quickly because people whine about their phones being warm, like that's not normal.
Bukaj2M said:
How to make game run smooth. Its lags under 20 FPS any sugestions?
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did u tested on latest f20 update ?
EtherealRemnant said:
My Pixel 7 Pro, with a supposedly inferior processor, can run this game on high settings at 60FPS (when I tried it, there were drops with larger mobs but still above 30). My OnePlus 9 could run it on high settings at 60 as well but only on custom ROMs. OnePlus' optimization is the issue. They throttle the SoC way too quickly because people whine about their phones being warm, like that's not normal.
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Yeah, the biggest issue is the heat and throttling. Customer ROMs with custom kernel improves it greatly.
Bukaj2M said:
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i found fix for this , u should use uperf module it will fix the lag 100%
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Mainur6 said:
i found fix for this , u should use uperf module it will fix the lag 100%
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Thanks for advise. I will try it.