Recently when OnePlus team released some news about upcoming Pie upgrade on their forums, i wonder if Google had made Treble mandatory on devices that upgrade to Pie now?
AFAIK when they upgrade to oreo last year, they never enable Treble on OP3 as Google didn't made it mandatory...
Thanks!
Noo. It was mandatory for phones which came with oreo out of the box and pie out of the box. Op3 came with marshmallow out of the box
For newer phones launching with Oreo (or any later versions), Treble support is necessary to pass VTS (therefore get the checks needed for the phone to use Gapps).
However, this was (and is) never the case for upgrades. There is also no change in this rule, and I imagine OnePlus wouldn't bother with it.
Dear Mi 10T lite community,
I am new to Xiaomi, originally coming from a OnePlus phone.
This is a Mi 10T lite phone bought in Germany from a German carrier.
Even before installing my personal data and apps, I had updated to the latest global version 12.0.8.0 of the Xiaomi stock ROM.
Today I get the notification, that the second (first after real install) update is available and my phone wants up UPDATE from 12.0.8 to 12.0.1 !?!?
What kind of update is this. The version number is being reduced?
The patch level is said to increase from January 2021 to February 2021, which sounds okay.
The current ROM (12.0.8) is Android 10 based. The new ROM (12.0.1) claims to be "Stable MIUI based on Android 11". Is this the upgrade to Android 11? I thought the Update to Android 11 will be with MIUI 12.5 in summer!?
Would you advise to upgrade this stock ROM? -- For me this sounds strange. On OnePlus I have always relied on the ROM upgrades. What about this?
Thank you for any advise in advance!
Best regards
Ethan
Ethan66 said:
Dear Mi 10T lite community,
I am new to Xiaomi, originally coming from a OnePlus phone.
This is a Mi 10T lite phone bought in Germany from a German carrier.
Even before installing my personal data and apps, I had updated to the latest global version 12.0.8.0 of the Xiaomi stock ROM.
Today I get the notification, that the second (first after real install) update is available and my phone wants up UPDATE from 12.0.8 to 12.0.1 !?!?
What kind of update is this. The version number is being reduced?
The patch level is said to increase from January 2021 to February 2021, which sounds okay.
The current ROM (12.0.8) is Android 10 based. The new ROM (12.0.1) claims to be "Stable MIUI based on Android 11". Is this the upgrade to Android 11? I thought the Update to Android 11 will be with MIUI 12.5 in summer!?
Would you advise to upgrade this stock ROM? -- For me this sounds strange. On OnePlus I have always relied on the ROM upgrades. What about this?
Thank you for any advise in advance!
Best regards
Ethan
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If you notice that the update ROM has R instead of Q in the string *JSEUXM that denotes next update - R follows Q. The numbering is for Miui version 12 and the iteration .0.1 means it's the first one in this R cycle.
And it is android 11. Going to install it myself - if it's now out of beta and ota'ing
Gazblade said:
If you notice that the update ROM has R instead of Q in the string *JSEUXM that denotes next update - R follows Q. The numbering is for Miui version 12 and the iteration .0.1 means it's the first one in this R cycle.
And it is android 11. Going to install it myself - if it's now out of beta and ota'ing
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Hello Gazblade,
thank you very much. This is quite interesting. I had only looked at the "human readable" part of the version number, not at the "machine readable" part.
You are right. This is an update from QJSEUXM to RJSEUXM and thus it should be a new version. It is good to learn the "Xiaomi-style".
Nevertheless it should NOT mean, that their GUI, MIUI is downgraded to an earlier version from 12.0.8 to 12.0.1. This is intriguing.
Obviously the third digit of the MIUI version number has nothing to do with respect to the currentness of Xiaomi's GUI software. Right?
Also the text "based on Android 11" is at least misleading.
Nevertheless, based on your feedback, I will try the update later.
Have a great day!
Best regards
Ethan
Just a note for "Based on Android 11" - it is important because you can have MIUI 12 based on Android 9 or Android 10 or Android 11. Most of the features will be shared among different Android versions, with some exceptions (or freshly introduced underlaying Android bugs/design changes).
_mysiak_ said:
Just a note for "Based on Android 11" - it is important because you can have MIUI 12 based on Android 9 or Android 10 or Android 11. Most of the features will be shared among different Android versions, with some exceptions (or freshly introduced underlaying Android bugs/design changes).
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I am not sure whether I got the point. Xiaomi had offered "MIUI 12.0 based on Android 11" for my Android 10 phone and this upgrade MIUI 12.0 is still using (or based on) Android 10.
Android 11 will come with MIUI 12.5 Right?
Thus does this "based on" read "has been compiled with Android 11"? Or "Is running on Android 11 and older"?
I had planned to install the update tonight, but in the meantime the OTA update disappeared again and is no longer found by the Xiaomi updater! What a strange policy.
Has the "R" version been withdrawn and is back to beta status?
With my old OnePlus updates were pretty straight-forward. I do not understand the Xiaomi update policy until now...
Ethan66 said:
I am not sure whether I got the point. Xiaomi had offered "MIUI 12.0 based on Android 11" for my Android 10 phone and this upgrade MIUI 12.0 is still using (or based on) Android 10.
Android 11 will come with MIUI 12.5 Right?
Thus does this "based on" read "has been compiled with Android 11"? Or "Is running on Android 11 and older"?
I had planned to install the update tonight, but in the meantime the OTA update disappeared again and is no longer found by the Xiaomi updater! What a strange policy.
Has the "R" version been withdrawn and is back to beta status?
With my old OnePlus updates were pretty straight-forward. I do not understand the Xiaomi update policy until now...
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MIUI is only skin (albeit quite heavy) on the top of Android. Xiaomi decided to offer the same MIUI version on top of more than one Android version. So our phone came with MIUI 12 + Android 10 and now it's being upgraded to MIUI 12 + Android 11. Next major upgrade will be MIUI 12.5 + Android 11. But it's possible that Xiaomi will offer also MIUI 12.5 + Android 10 for other (older) phone models..
It can be a bit confusing, but you don't need to stress too much about it.
The Update to 12.0.1.0 RJSEUXM is back and I have downloaded the OTA update already. Currently I am charging my phone before applying the update. -- Be safe. At least on the battery.
Did anybody already apply this update to Android 11?
There are so many rumors about problems with this update, but there are not many clear facts.
Would you recommend adopting to Android 11 already now or wait for MIUI 12.5?
Ethan66 said:
The Update to 12.0.1.0 RJSEUXM is back and I have downloaded the OTA update already. Currently I am charging my phone before applying the update. -- Be safe. At least on the battery.
Did anybody already apply this update to Android 11?
There are so many rumors about problems with this update, but there are not many clear facts.
Would you recommend adopting to Android 11 already now or wait for MIUI 12.5?
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I will put it this way. For every bigger Android update there are a bunch of people who hate it and they will make a lot of noise on forums. They don't like some design changes or cosmetic bugs. Most people are not bothered by them or they barely notice them. Of course that there is always a chance of serious bugs, but problematic updates are usually pulled down quickly and the information is often covered in articles (on XDA or similar pages). There is no known serious bug in this update and it's considered as a safe update. I am very sure that MIUI 12.5 update will be "the worst update in the history of all updates" for some people (like it was with MIUI 12 or MIUI 11; or Android 11 or Android 10 etc.)..
I updated one or two weeks ago and except already mentioned misaligned (but still functional) text in notifications I haven't noticed anything worth mentioning. I personally recommend the update, but as always, YMMV..
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I will put it this way. For every bigger Android update there are a bunch of people who hate it and they will make a lot of noise on forums. They don't like some design changes or cosmetic bugs. Most people are not bothered by them or they barely notice them. Of course that there is always a chance of serious bugs, but problematic updates are usually pulled down quickly and the information is often covered in articles (on XDA or similar pages). There is no known serious bug in this update and it's considered as a safe update. I am very sure that MIUI 12.5 update will be "the worst update in the history of all updates" for some people (like it was with MIUI 12 or MIUI 11; or Android 11 or Android 10 etc.)..
I updated one or two weeks ago and except already mentioned misaligned (but still functional) text in notifications I haven't noticed anything worth mentioning. I personally recommend the update, but as always, YMMV..
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Thank you, _mysiak_!
I have just updated to 12.0.1.0.RJSEUXM. My Mi 10T lite is now running Android 11 absolutely flawlessly. Good recommendation! And probably a very correct explanation in your message above.
Could someone upload and share the MiQT Lite XQCN file (EEA or Global)? I need this file to test some things on my 9 Pro 5G.
did your miui optimization options got removed after the update cause mine did
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did your miui optimization options got removed after the update cause mine did
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No, still there.
Any plans for making a custom ROM with OOS11 Being based on Android 12? OOS12 is color os and I'm not a fan.
I think everyone needs to wait and see what the final A12 build turns out to look like for Oneplus devices. It could look different than even the open beta we're seeing now. Oneplus' CEO: "Lau confirmed that the 2022 flagship — theoretically called the OnePlus 10 — would be the first phone with the new unified operating system. After this launch, we would see the unified OS on both new Oppo and OnePlus phones going forward."
Just asking, is someone making Android 12 for this device, every other redmi model has got Android 12 except this one, is it because of mediatek processor?
huzefa6610 said:
Just asking, is someone making Android 12 for this device, every other redmi model has got Android 12 except this one, is it because of mediatek processor?
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Some GSI released nearly 1 month. And custom rom POSP alpha build A12 released from 2/11 and get new update with some fixes today (15/11). You can join Telegram Global group for more info. PE+ is working too, but developer is busy right now. Lineage will get official but idk it will be A11 or A12.
I'm hoping to find a custom ROM for a Pixel 3XL that will still get security updates for a while, any recommendations? Would it be better to flash one based on Android 12.1 rather than 13? I'm seeing a few outstanding issues with 13 on the P3XL, like no VoLTE support.
Pixel Experience and LineageOS get pretty consistent updates. I belive the 3XL can also run Android Preview GSIs, which is what the Pixel firmware is based on.
Lineage has been pretty stable for me, has a built in updater and has weekly updates. I can't speak to the contents of the updates being "security" updates but it's updated weekly.
I'm on Lineageos 20 and have volte and Wifi Calling. it might be your carrier settings on the pixel 3xl have both hard set to false. You can override the carrier settings if you have root. But will still need VoLTE provisioned by your carrier