Question about 2021 s20 exynos heat - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

Hello everyone, im going to choose a phone for my cousin and i was looking to s20+ exynos. Its a great phone but when i bought it in 2020 summer, it was heating up a lot even when doing normal tasks like using chrome or watching youtube. For comparison, when using zoom s20+ got up to 42-43 Degree battery and was really hot, same conditions s10+ was something like 31battery. After 2 days i returned the phone. Now i suspect this was due to software problems and wanna know if phone still heats up like this during normal use.

My Note 10+ Snapdragon was a hot running battery hog when I first used it. Today it's a fast, stable, cool running platform. Same firmware but I optimized it over time.
If you expect an Android to run perfectly out of the box you're having Apple delusions

blackhawk said:
My Note 10+ Snapdragon was a hot running battery hog when I first used it. Today it's a fast, stable, cool running platform. Same firmware but I optimized it over time.
If you expect an Android to run perfectly out of the box you're having Apple delusions
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I suppose its okay for it to not be perfect but it shouldnt be that bad either. I wouldnt return it otherwise. That was definitely not a case where it would fix itself with user optimizations and a week of 'phone getting used to your patterns' bs. You clearly had a different problem if you achieved it without updates.

theblitz707 said:
I suppose its okay for it to not be perfect but it shouldnt be that bad either. I wouldnt return it otherwise. That was definitely not a case where it would fix itself with user optimizations and a week of 'phone getting used to your patterns' bs. You clearly had a different problem if you achieved it without updates.
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Doesn't matter what the problem is most times because with Android there's always a work around even on stock Androids.
Each device and user are different... we're not all the same lame Apple
It's time consuming... until you work it out.
If you're waiting an update solution you're going to wait... and maybe still not get what you want.
That's why Gookill can jam Q and especially 11 up someone else's auxiliary port.
No real improvements and lots of useless cpu cycle robbing big sister bs. 12 will likely be worse... so I'm not throwing my money or time at it. I have that luxury.
Dead cats, dead rats
Can't you see what they were at?

blackhawk said:
Doesn't matter what the problem is most times because with Android there's always a work around even on stock Androids.
Each device and user are different... we're not all the same lame Apple
It's time consuming... until you work it out.
If you're waiting an update solution you're going to wait... and maybe still not get what you want.
That's why Gookill can jam Q and especially 11 up someone else's auxiliary port.
No real improvements and lots of useless cpu cycle robbing big sister bs. 12 will likely be worse... so I'm not throwing my money or time at it. I have that luxury.
Dead cats, dead rats
Can't you see what they were at?
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just out of curiosity, what did you do to stop your phone from overheating?

theblitz707 said:
just out of curiosity, what did you do to stop your phone from overheating?
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A whole lot.
First step was to disable all power management.
Then go after each offender on a case by case basis. Rogue 3rd party apps either get firewall blocked or deleted especially if they're are startup apps that don't need that privilege.
I use Package Disabler and Karma Firewall a lot.
I clear the system cache and use as needed the old Device Care powered by 360° (firewall blocked) to clear system caches and logs.
Disable all cloud junk, and other Google trashware.
Simply disabling Google play Services and Playstore when not needed gives you another 1-2%@ hr of battery life. They are hogs that tend to run needlessly.
Disable all feedback... it's data mining at your expense.
Sometimes I turn off battery background usage to certain apks like Android Services.
It all adds up... play with it.
Each device, OS and user are different, so what works well for me might puke on you.
Don't make too many changes at once and be aware of possible dependencies for the apps you alter. It's a learning curve... and sort of fun.
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It's almost impossible to crash and burn* a stock Android. So get after it!
*always be ready for a crash. Backup all critical data redundantly and be ready to reload at any time. While very rare Android crashes give little or no warning. Slight system instability and lag are many times the only warnings you will get on a fast platform... then bam, boot loop.

blackhawk said:
A whole lot.
First step was to disable all power management.
Then go after each offender on a case by case basis. Rogue 3rd party apps either get firewall blocked or deleted especially if they're are startup apps that don't need that privilege.
I use Package Disabler and Karma Firewall a lot.
I clear the system cache and use as needed the old Device Care powered by 360° (firewall blocked) to clear system caches and logs.
Disable all cloud junk, and other Google trashware.
Simply disabling Google play Services and Playstore when not needed gives you another 1-2%@ hr of battery life. They are hogs that tend to run needlessly.
Disable all feedback... it's data mining at your expense.
Sometimes I turn off battery background usage to certain apks like Android Services.
It all adds up... play with it.
Each device, OS and user are different, so what works well for me might puke on you.
Don't make too many changes at once and be aware of possible dependencies for the apps you alter. It's a learning curve... and sort of fun.
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It's almost impossible to crash and burn* a stock Android. So get after it!
*always be ready for a crash. Backup all critical data redundantly and be ready to reload at any time. While very rare Android crashes give little or no warning. Slight system instability and lag are many times the only warnings you will get on a fast platform... then bam, boot loop.
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Im pretty sure your note 10 would be completely fine without any of those. If you updated a few times. But if you have to stay at initial firmware for some specific reason then fair enough. (Btw, I also used to disable google play and google services but at the time my phone had 834MB ram so it was really important, i dont think saving %1 battery is worth it at all)
When i had my S20+, phone didnt heat at all when idling so some bloatware/feedback/google services/rogue app etc. wasnt the issue. I learned from someone else it was fixed after november update. Anyways have a good day

theblitz707 said:
Im pretty sure your note 10 would be completely fine without any of those. If you updated a few times. But if you have to stay at initial firmware for some specific reason then fair enough. (Btw, I also used to disable google play and google services but at the time my phone had 834MB ram so it was really important, i dont think saving %1 battery is worth it at all)
When i had my S20+, phone didnt heat at all when idling so some bloatware/feedback/google services/rogue app etc. wasnt the issue. I learned from someone else it was fixed after november update. Anyways have a good day
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That's a minimum. When Gookill is misbehaving it's battery usage far exceeds that and extends into when the screen is off.
My battery usage when sleeping with AOD on touch demand is 2-3% for 6 hours.
That 1 or 2% is also after much of the Gookill junkware was disabled.
Google and Samsung apps are the prime suspects... as usual.
My stock 10+ is heavily reconfigured, I have no quick fixes for you because none of mine were quick
As for updates, they ain't got nothing for me. Last thing I want is Q loading on this device.
It would gut Karma Firewall's functionality and destroy trusted overlay apks... for what?
I've already archieved all my favorite apks so I'm not longer dependent on Playstore. Playstore will eventually alter or delete them.

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aggressive task killer / memory management

I've been using this phone for about 3 weeks, and I've noticed it seems to have a very aggressive low memory killer or a rogue task killer. I haven't installed any task killers or battery savers that should be doing this, so it seems to be system behavior.
If I airplane mode my phone, by the time I reconnect it, it has almost always killed DNS66. I can pause Pandora and just leave the phone laying on my desk. When I come back it will have killed Pandora. The last straw was today when it killed Rocket Player while it was actively playing.
The only device I've ever seen kill an active app only has 1 GB RAM. The last phone I used only had 2 GB RAM and it handled background apps way better than my Nokia 6.1 is.
Has anyone else seen this, or better yet, do you know how to stop it?
I have a TA-1045 running Pie on the Dec 2018 security patch. No root, no mods, no task killers - just bone stock behavior. The only non-Play store app I have is DNS66.
Have a look at
https://dontkillmyapp.com/
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Have a look at
https://dontkillmyapp.com/
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Excellent! Just killed that battery protection app. Can't wait to fire up adb and get rid of it entirely. I can't believe Nokia thought end users would desire this kind of behavior.
If this works out, you just saved me a phone. I was not going to put up with this much longer.
runekock said:
Have a look at
https://dontkillmyapp.com/
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Well that didn't work. Force closing the battery protection app like suggested in that link didn't change aggressively killing off idle apps. The package manager adb command exits with success, but the battery protection app is still on the phone ruining its memory management.
Have you managed to get this phone to work properly with respect to background apps? Did you make any other modifications or do any other debloating?
Otherwise this is a pretty decent phone. Smooth enough and plenty fast for everything I use it for. The camera is a little sub-par, but no complaints for what I paid for it. Gotta skimp somewhere for a price point that low. However, sometimes it feels like this thing has a mind of its own, and its mostly due to how aggressively it kills off tasks. They aren't even always what I'd call idle, like a paused media player or a DNS server not currently in use. It is really disappointing. This isn't what I expected out of an Android One device.
The Nokia 6.1 belongs to my father, and this problem hasn't bother him, so I haven't tried anything myself.
Maybe you need to be rooted to uninstall the task-killer? But then, I don't know a way to root the phone, either.
runekock said:
The Nokia 6.1 belongs to my father, and this problem hasn't bother him, so I haven't tried anything myself.
Maybe you need to be rooted to uninstall the task-killer? But then, I don't know a way to root the phone, either.
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You're probably right since it is installed as a system app. It is just odd that the package manager command exits with Success. You'd think it would throw a Permission Denied or Only Root can do that error.

Samsung Galaxy S20 - Fast Battery Drain..

Hello.
I bought my S20 few days a go, with device everything is great but, my battery is terrible,
I use it every half hour to see do i have new notifications, messages, new posts on instagram and thats it.
I dont play android games or etc.
But with this minimal usage im losing 50% of battery @ work, and i use phone max 1h SOT in 7h of work time.
I tried Naptime but naptime only save my battery when phone is locked, but when im using phone im losing % very very fast.
My settings: Location , bluetooth, NFC disabled. Facebook in hibernation, and i disabled all bloatware with ADB uninstall.
And im using 120hz.
Normally with my settings on other phones i get very good battery life.
I do not want to root my phone, but is there any solution how to get more battery life on S20?
Thanks
Disable all power management except the screen setting which should be set to Optimize.
Disable all cloud apps, all device feedback, Google Transport, Goggle Transport Framework and Playstore. All autoupdates.
See my other posts on this ( good luck with that).
A package blocker is more effective for troubleshooting on the fly. I'm running Pie and Q gives you less tools to see what's going on.
Karma Firewall* is useful to lockdown Goggle Play Services* (a known serial offender) and others.
Nonetheless you need to find the troublemakers as you're burning up the battery.
Play with it... this may take a while.
*you lose its logging ability with Q I believe. A major hit if so.
**toggle on/off as needed.
blackhawk said:
Disable all power management except the screen setting which should be set to Optimize.
Disable all cloud apps, all device feedback, Google Transport, Goggle Transport Framework and Playstore. All autoupdates.
See my other posts on this ( good luck with that).
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I looked up every aplication, service and everything is ok, maybe device need to adapt to my usage.
*Device is 2 days old*
But, i did not fully discharged battery on my first use. Can that be the problem?
I know i had to do it but i forgot that.
I had S10+ before this device.
Im using same settings and apps. But difference in battery life is big.
Talentooman said:
I had S10+ before this device.
Im using same settings and apps. But difference in battery life is big.
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Unfortunately you'll need to track it down; no one size fits all. You need to figure out which system and 3rd party apks are responsible.
Use what tools are available and ones you can find for that OS.
Even with all syncing disabled on my 10+ Goggle Play Services relentlessly connects 4 times a minute with the internet. Blocking it toned it's battery usage down.
Brave browser is a hog and will run in the background unless forced stopped; closing its window does nothing.
Fun times... Google did nothing to address this and in fact has been making troubleshooting harder with each new OS using security as a ploy.
I ran Kitkat until last year. In 6 years I've never been forced to reload due to malware... bite me Google. Yeah viruses, trojans, etc are real and can/do infect Androids but almost always it's the user's fault. Transparency is what's needed not scoped storage and more user/apk inaccessibility.
Talentooman said:
I looked up every aplication, service and everything is ok, maybe device need to adapt to my usage.
*Device is 2 days old*
But, i did not fully discharged battery on my first use. Can that be the problem?
I know i had to do it but i forgot that.
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Let it settle in for a week. You shouldn't need to disable any packages to get good battery . My s20 gets 6.5-7hr sot without disabling anything and just using the 120HZ medium power saving Bixby routine trick , 5.5-6 hrs on optimized . Don't listen to those who say you have to disable a **** ton of stuff and basically cripple your phone...you absolutely don't .
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Let it settle in for a week. You shouldn't need to disable any packages to get good battery . My s20 gets 6.5-7hr sot without disabling anything and just using the 120HZ medium power saving Bixby routine trick , 5.5-6 hrs on optimized . Don't listen to those who say you have to disable a **** ton of stuff and basically cripple your phone...you absolutely don't .
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Depends on the device, the firmware and what's loaded including carrier and Sammy junk.
I've tried it every which way and now have about 86 apks blocked. Some like Playstore and Galaxy updates get toggle on as needed which isn't often.
Every time with power management when it was used it seemed to work but within a few days it became the problem with excessive power consumption.
Plus and even worse it will screw up phone functionality constantly and inexplicably at times.
Android will manage power and go into deep sleep with all buckets active; no power management needed... at least on my configuration.
Because of the time and trouble invested as well as trash features like scoped storage I refuse to go to Q. This 10+ will most likely run happily on Pie and many of its factory loaded google apks.
Yes updates can and will screw things up; update one or two at a time, observe.
Having a fast, stable, predictable system that runs well with good battery life and does what you want is all that really matters with Android.
Security is very rarely an issue even on ancient software if you aren't inept.
As is I'm ready to do a full reload if needed, be back and running in 2 hours and 99% fully configured by that day with bare minimal internet connection required.
My S20 (Exynos) battery life seems to have improved since the Android 11 / UI 3.0 update.
For sure it isn't perfect but : about 4h SOT and 25% left.
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My S20 (Exynos) battery life seems to have improved since the Android 11 / UI 3.0 update.
For sure it isn't perfect but : about 4h SOT and 25% left.
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Im still waiting for update..
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Im still waiting for update..
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Disable all power management except for screen/power mode.
Android does nicely by its self.
The only thing you should have toogled on is fast charging if you use it. Try it.
Once you got it running well be very careful of updates especially firmware. At least wait a while to see if it blows up the phones of others using it.

Question Why is my phone running hot?

Anyone know how I might go about diagnosing why my phone has been running much warmer than usual? Just browsing Facebook (posts, not video) for about 5 minutes with brightness around 25% the temp was up to 41 degrees. It happened earlier today when I was just using Chrome, and it happens most days now. The issue began when I updated to 11.2.8.8 (the very next day), and the phone overheated several times the first few days, evidenced by the system warning about temperature, then recovering several minutes later. I haven't seen the system warning since then, but it's frequently above 40 degrees just doing everyday tasks. Oddly, I haven't noticed it overheating when playing games.
I usually run Omega kernel, which has always run cooler than stock during both normal use and heavy gaming, but this issue has occurred with both stock and Omega, so it's not kernel-related. The only magisk modules I have installed are debloater (for YouTube only), font manager, and systemless hosts, so that's not it either.
Maybe some app going haywire (how to find it? Nothing in battery usage) or some system behavior that changed in 11.2.8.8? Anyone else have this issue or find what's causing it?
That's just how this phone is. It was worse when the phone released before all of the updates. They've been slowly trying to fix it with each update. The 888 is a hot *****.
TheKnux said:
That's just how this phone is. It was worse when the phone released before all of the updates. They've been slowly trying to fix it with each update. The 888 is a hot *****.
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I remember having that complaint when I first got it, especially when gaming, but it's been fine for me since like April, until this last update. And with Omega several degrees cooler. So there has to be something new causing it....
terlynn4 said:
I remember having that complaint when I first got it, especially when gaming, but it's been fine for me since like April, until this last update. And with Omega several degrees cooler. So there has to be something new causing it....
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What version of Omega are you on? What build of OOS? AA, BA, DA? Are there any unusual rogue apps that you've noticed running more than usual?
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What version of Omega are you on? What build of OOS? AA, BA, DA? Are there any unusual rogue apps that you've noticed running more than usual?
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Latest version of Omega (8/7) since yesterday, but was having the same issue on the previous build (7/30). I'm on OOS 11.2.8.8 BA.
I haven't noticed any apps using more battery than expected, but I guess that might be part of my question... If there are any, what's the best way to find them? I'm not seeing any useful info in BBS or anything in GSam I wouldn't expect, except overall battery drain is a bit higher when it's been running hot. I do have a lot of apps installed and should probably clean up what I don't use, so I guess that's a place to start.
Find which apks are using the battery.
Google system apks are prime suspects.
Trash apps like FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn... none of that junkware runs on my device, ever.
Examine all startup apks closely, take out the trash.
Power management can end up causing excessive battery usage, try turning it off.
Track down each battery hog and deal with it on a case by case basis rather than the flip a switch shotgun approach.
I use Karma Firewall's logging feature to help track down offenders.
Dependencies... sometimes the source of the high usage is hidden. What apks and services are running? What apks are using what services and why? What's apks are getting cached first when you clear them all? Any memory leaks?
Play with it... Androids wuv attention
blackhawk said:
Find which apks are using the battery.
Google system apks are prime suspects.
Trash apps like FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn... none of that junkware runs on my device, ever.
Examine all startup apks closely, take out the trash.
Power management can end up causing excessive battery usage, try turning it off.
Track down each battery hog and deal with it on a case by case basis rather than the flip a switch shotgun approach.
I use Karma Firewall's logging feature to help track down offenders.
Dependencies... sometimes the source of the high usage is hidden. What apks and services are running? What apks are using what services and why? What's apks are getting cached first when you clear them all? Any memory leaks?
Play with it... Androids wuv attention
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Good ideas. I just installed Karma Firewall and will see if it turns up anything.
How do you manage startup apps and running services? I used to use Servicely, but with Android 11 I find that even when I disable apps at startup they still start on their own, and it seems to use more battery than it saves. I've since disabled all apps of that kind and just let Android manage things itself. The only thing I do is go to individual apps and turn on battery optimization and disable background data if not needed, and I keep apps I don't use often in Icebox, including Facebook, which is the only social media type app I have. (Uninstalling FB isn't an option unfortunately.)
What do you mean by "which apps are getting cached first when you clear them all?" and how might I find it there are memory leaks?
terlynn4 said:
Good ideas. I just installed Karma Firewall and will see if it turns up anything.
How do you manage startup apps and running services? I used to use Servicely, but with Android 11 I find that even when I disable apps at startup they still start on their own, and it seems to use more battery than it saves. I've since disabled all apps of that kind and just let Android manage things itself. The only thing I do is go to individual apps and turn on battery optimization and disable background data if not needed, and I keep apps I don't use often in Icebox, including Facebook, which is the only social media type app I have. (Uninstalling FB isn't an option unfortunately.)
What do you mean by "which apps are getting cached first when you clear them all?" and how might I find it there are memory leaks?
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Karma's logging feature doesn't work in 10 and above I believe, I run Pie. See what you got though. It will still block apk internet access though and uses almost no battery.
The battery optimization option can cause erratic behavior and I never use it. Close apps when done with them. Brave browser for instance will run in the background until closed.
Developer options>running services memory leaks show up as an apk who's memory usage just keeps increasing with time. It can get quit large. These are rare and poorly coded programs. More common on Windows.
Keep an eye though for memory hungry apps as they may be using excessive power but not always. Small memory users can be worse. Dependencies, sometimes a apk or service keeps making repeated requests because of a disabled apk or service.
Killing Goggle play Services and Playstore when not needed will help battery life.
Google backup Transport, Framework and Firebase are always disabled on my device.
All carrier, manufacturer, and Google feedback are disabled.
I have a Samsung device and I use its Device Care app to clear the cached apks. Then watch as they repopulate. You'll need an app that does this. In running services you can disable a suspect apk and see how long it takes to come back. I find that Device Care is more effective though and that ability has let me track down some misbehaving system apks saving me a reload.
FB is weaponized and a proven liability. Known data miner. Purveyor of disinformation and dissent. It has ruined countless lives and careers. It deliberately makes you have load the app to be able to send messages. If this last year hasn't taught you what you need to know...
I used it for one month 15 years ago and knew what it was back then. It's far worse today.
Don't feed the beast.
blackhawk said:
Karma's logging feature doesn't work in 10 and above I believe, I run Pie. See what you got though. It will still block apk internet access though and uses almost no battery.
The battery optimization option can cause erratic behavior and I never use it. Close apps when done with them. Brave browser for instance will run in the background until closed.
Developer options>running services memory leaks show up as an apk who's memory usage just keeps increasing with time. It can get quit large. These are rare and poorly coded programs. More common on Windows.
Keep an eye though for memory hungry apps as they may be using excessive power but not always. Small memory users can be worse. Dependencies, sometimes a apk or service keeps making repeated requests because of a disabled apk or service.
Killing Goggle play Services and Playstore when not needed will help battery life.
Google backup Transport, Framework and Firebase are always disabled on my device.
All carrier, manufacturer, and Google feedback are disabled.
I have a Samsung device and I use its Device Care app to clear the cached apks. Then watch as they repopulate. You'll need an app that does this. In running services you can disable a suspect apk and see how long it takes to come back. I find that Device Care is more effective though and that ability has let me track down some misbehaving system apks saving me a reload.
FB is weaponized and a proven liability. Known data miner. Purveyor of disinformation and dissent. It has ruined countless lives and careers. It deliberately makes you have load the app to be able to send messages. If this last year hasn't taught you what you need to know...
I used it for one month 15 years ago and knew what it was back then. It's far worse today.
Don't feed the beast.
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Thanks for the info, it's interesting. However, if you're running Pie & not even using a OnePlus device, none of this is going to be applicable to my issue which is specific to OOS 11.2.8.8 on this particular device, only present since last month's update.
Re: FB - I'm required to use it for my job (well, second job), and I need it on my mobile device in order to do that job, so it's not going away. Freezing it when not in use is the best I can do.
terlynn4 said:
Thanks for the info, it's interesting. However, if you're running Pie & not even using a OnePlus device, none of this is going to be applicable to my issue which is specific to OOS 11.2.8.8 on this particular device, only present since last month's update.
Re: FB - I'm required to use it for my job (well, second job), and I need it on my mobile device in order to do that job, so it's not going away. Freezing it when not in use is the best I can do.
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You cross platform OS version and manufacturer to find solutions. I have a lot of posts here but few asking for help because I do the above or just keeps at it until I work it out as it's my issue.
*shakes head*
You've painted yourself into a corner.
@terlynn4 I use BatteryGuru because it uses root to find rogue apps that are draining battery unnecessarily. Give it a go and see if that helps pinpoint the problem at all.

Question WTF s22 battery optimization

Hello guys,
i've reinstalled from scratch my s22 to try to boost my battery performance. Installed the last update and all the apps that i need. First battery cycle 6 hours and half of SOT yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
But than comes the crappy part :/ after a full charge from zero with phone in shut down mode i've turned on it and.... almost 4 hours of sot.
WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Anyone have found the same problem?!?
How can it be possible to go from 6.30 to 4 with the same type of use?!?
DAMN S22!!!
All Samsung's need to be optimized for best performance. 4 hr SOT means you're burning up that battery too!
Turn off all global power management ie adaptive battery. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Cloud apps including Google backup.
Keep display brightness on manual and below 50% when possible.
Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback. Turn off Google Firebase.
Get rid of all installed social media trashware.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps much; Google backup, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies.
Manually close out apps like Brave browser that insist on running in the background.
Use tap on AOD.
Kill wifi if you don't need it.
Turn off locations when not needed.
blackhawk said:
All Samsung's need to be optimized for best performance. 4 hr SOT means you're burning up that battery too!
Turn off all global power management ie adaptive battery. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Cloud apps including Google backup.
Keep display brightness on manual and below 50% when possible.
Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback. Turn off Google Firebase.
Get rid of all installed social media trashware.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps much; Google backup, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies.
Manually close out apps like Brave browser that insist on running in the background.
Use tap on AOD.
Kill wifi if you don't need it.
Turn off locations when not needed.
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I just turned off Adaptive Battery and now the phone is just flying through the apps. Yes, Twitter and co. can still have the occasional hick-up, but it is now significantly improved. I was about to sell the Ultra and already got an iPhone 13 Pro Max, but this is quite literally a game changer. Thank you, my man. Time to get the iPhone back to the store.
I haven't heard of the Brave issue. It doesn't seem to run in the background on my phone. And I don't know why it would if Chrome doesn't. Can you point me to a thread or something about Brave? I use it on all my PCs everyday and quite like it. And on my Kindle Fire, where running background apps are usually very apparent. Have I just not noticed on my phone for some reason?
blackhawk said:
All Samsung's need to be optimized for best performance. 4 hr SOT means you're burning up that battery too!
Turn off all global power management ie adaptive battery. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Cloud apps including Google backup.
Keep display brightness on manual and below 50% when possible.
Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback. Turn off Google Firebase.
Get rid of all installed social media trashware.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps much; Google backup, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies.
Manually close out apps like Brave browser that insist on running in the background.
Use tap on AOD.
Kill wifi if you don't need it.
Turn off locations when not needed.
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cuvtixo said:
I haven't heard of the Brave issue. It doesn't seem to run in the background on my phone. And I don't know why it would if Chrome doesn't. Can you point me to a thread or something about Brave? I use it on all my PCs everyday and quite like it. And on my Kindle Fire, where running background apps are usually very apparent. Have I just not noticed on my phone for some reason?
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It does on my Note 10+/Pie. I can see it doing it on the firewall. So I close it out when not using it. May be just my configuration. Lol it doesn't need run at startup permissions.
Otherwise it's bulletproof, which is why I use it.
No malware ever slipped through it as it and the the N10+ are configured. It's been well tested...

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I don't know what's going on, but all of a sudden with same usage and room temp I got 50.8 degrees (123.4F) in 10m Genshin play, it burned to the touch when case got removed, maybe it becomes the new Note 7 one day.
Better stop whatever is causing that, it will shorten the Li's lifespan.
blackhawk said:
Better stop whatever is causing that, it will shorten the Li's lifespan.
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Yeah, rebooted, did the same and it didn't get warm at all, some software issue maybe, it only happened this time, if it continues to happen I'll RMA
Justarandomguy said:
Yeah, rebooted, did the same and it didn't get warm at all, some software issue maybe, it only happened this time, if it continues to happen I'll RMA
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Cloud apps can use a lot of resources ie Google backup Transport.
It may have been a system optimizer app running in the background. On my less than new Note 10+ I just noticed the other week one on those was enabled when I didn't want it to be. oops.
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blackhawk said:
Cloud apps can use a lot of resources ie Google backup Transport.
It may have been a system optimizer app running in the background. On my less than new Note 10+ I just noticed the other week one on those was enabled when I didn't want it to be. oops.
Cause of strange occasional behavior found
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I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
My p6 was heating much after april update, and phone performance while using it while charging is sluggish, and i feel its charging slower than before
Justarandomguy said:
I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
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I would've been alarmed too and suspected the possibility of malware if no explanation could be found.
I don't allow firmware updates or upgrades. Same for Playstore, it's disabled. Results a fast and very stable phone; current load will 3yo in June. Still running on Pie. Security simply isn't an issue; no malware in all that time.
I rarely allow apps to update either; upgrades/updates can and do break things. On 3rd party apps updates can potentially deliver a malicious payload. Also no social media or sales apps are ever installed; browser login only. No online games, ever. I'm very careful about what I install and all email is kept in the cloud.
Justarandomguy said:
I have it with few Google apps plus insta WhatsApp and Telegram, the rest are games, it works well all the time but that was really strange, looked at background services and so and it was all normal, it's working well but wow, maybe it was the Google update that made phones warm and battery drain, but that was too much, I rebooted, updated apps on PlayStore (Google was there) and it worked fine
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Yes, there was issue with Google update on Pixels.
Google fixes overheating and battery drain issue on Pixel
No user action is needed. Google is currently rolling out a patch that fixes the overheating and battery drain issue reported by some users, particularly...
www.gsmarena.com
Dayuser said:
Yes, there was issue with Google update on Pixels.
Google fixes overheating and battery drain issue on Pixel
No user action is needed. Google is currently rolling out a patch that fixes the overheating and battery drain issue reported by some users, particularly...
www.gsmarena.com
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Looks like this was the issue, still, an app being able to mess things up that much, or a phone not being able to control itself are pretty bad things, the max temp I ever got was 45.9 degrees, on a sunny day, 34-36°, playing for half an hour with max brightness, I'll try to keep my device as much as I can, I'd like to have it until major updates end at least

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