Rooted Samsung S20 and Island app (work profile) - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

Can someone who tried (or is willing to try) tell me whether this still works if Knox has been tripped? I am not talking about secure folders just a work profile set up by Island.

Jeroen1000 said:
Can someone who tried (or is willing to try) tell me whether this still works if Knox has been tripped? I am not talking about secure folders just a work profile set up by Island.
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AFAIK work profile also needs Knox (untripped).

Any idea if the work profile will work with a custom rom based on One UI such as BeyondROM?

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[Q] Zooper and K9

Trying to get Zooper to pick up email notifications from K9. I read somewhere that #SUK# should work, however that does not seem to be the case. Can anyone confirm whether this works or not?
Cheers!
'Or not.'
I'm afraid it doesn't work atm. Dev stated it is to be implemented but I haven't read any succesful story on this. There are workarounds using Tasker and a rooted Phone w/ SQlite on it (look here), but I cant confirm 'teh awes0men3ss' as I won't kill my warranty.
ego-sum said:
'Or not.'
I'm afraid it doesn't work atm. Dev stated it is to be implemented but I haven't read any succesful story on this. There are workarounds using Tasker and a rooted Phone w/ SQlite on it (look here), but I cant confirm 'teh awes0men3ss' as I won't kill my warranty.
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I can't even get that way to work.

Knox with Nova Launcher

I decided to set up Knox for my work email. Seems very good and useful so far.
After setting it up, Nova launcher stopped being my default launcher and I was back to Touchwiz.
I reinstalled Nova and all was fine, until I came out of Knox for a 2nd time and it reverted back to Touchwiz again.
Frustrating as it does seem to work fine until Knox takes it away. So it seems you can't use a custom launcher if you have Knox.
Has anyone experienced this and found a workaround? I don't HATE touchwiz, but I'd much prefer to have Nova back.
Thanks
herbs28 said:
I decided to set up Knox for my work email. Seems very good and useful so far.
After setting it up, Nova launcher stopped being my default launcher and I was back to Touchwiz.
I reinstalled Nova and all was fine, until I came out of Knox for a 2nd time and it reverted back to Touchwiz again.
Frustrating as it does seem to work fine until Knox takes it away. So it seems you can't use a custom launcher if you have Knox.
Has anyone experienced this and found a workaround? I don't HATE touchwiz, but I'd much prefer to have Nova back.
Thanks
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It's Knox mate....
It's only way is trying turn off knox. And if didn't work, the solution is root and freeze with titanium backup.
Sorry...
feller said:
It's Knox mate....
It's only way is trying turn off knox. And if didn't work, the solution is root and freeze with titanium backup.
Sorry...
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It's annoying but probably just the way it is with Knox. I think I'll keep it as I'll get a lot out of using the device for work email.
I'm starting to get more used to touchwiz, I've probably just spent too much time getting used to Nova. Just doesn't feel quite right.
So if you can't cope without your custom launcher, stay away from Knox.
herbs28 said:
I decided to set up Knox for my work email. Seems very good and useful so far.
After setting it up, Nova launcher stopped being my default launcher and I was back to Touchwiz.
I reinstalled Nova and all was fine, until I came out of Knox for a 2nd time and it reverted back to Touchwiz again.
Frustrating as it does seem to work fine until Knox takes it away. So it seems you can't use a custom launcher if you have Knox.
Has anyone experienced this and found a workaround? I don't HATE touchwiz, but I'd much prefer to have Nova back.
Thanks
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As a matter if interest, what made you use Knox for work email? Was it mandated by your firm? Thanks!
boltor said:
As a matter if interest, what made you use Knox for work email? Was it mandated by your firm? Thanks!
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I manage IT for 1700 users. We have around 200 company owned devices, shifting from BlackBerry towards either android or Windows.
I'd like for mobile email to be available to all.
Active sync on exchange is not appropriate for personal devices and security is a very important part of any decision.
Knox is working well for me but I don't think it's going to be enough on its own and the cost of device management products makes allowing BOYD pointless.
herbs28 said:
I manage IT for 1700 users. We have around 200 company owned devices, shifting from BlackBerry towards either android or Windows.
I'd like for mobile email to be available to all.
Active sync on exchange is not appropriate for personal devices and security is a very important part of any decision.
Knox is working well for me but I don't think it's going to be enough on its own and the cost of device management products makes allowing BOYD pointless.
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Thanks, appreciate the info. Why isn't active sync ok for personal details devices?
boltor said:
Thanks, appreciate the info. Why isn't active sync ok for personal details devices?
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Users don't want to be forced into policies which we require, rightly so.
For example, screen timeout policy, enforced password, forced encryption, no storage cards, no mass storage.
Also if someone leaves, we'd want to do a remote wipe.
Still getting on well with Knox, but without its expensive management tools I suspect it will leave all the data on the device when the user leaves, I'm yet to test that. Would mean no good for us. I will just have to draw out my testing so I can keep it!
Do you have plans to do something similar?

knox counter triggered! is there a way to reset it?

After rooting my Note 7, I've noticed that my Knox counter has been triggered, normally I would mind but several apps seem to depend on it to work properly(I can't even open S Health!). Is there away to reset it yet? thanks
Nope. When you root, a physical fuse in the phone is blown, so unless you have epic soldering and mad haxorz skills then you're pretty much screwed
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
I am rooted and my S Health works. I believe the only thing that would be permanently disabled is Samsung Pay. Some banking apps will not run if you have root but you can always install an Xposed module called root cloak to circumvent that issue.
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S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
thedicemaster said:
get it exchanged in the recall, and don't root your new phone.
there's not that much you can do with root that you can't do without root, especially on recent high-end Samsung phones.
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Sadly depending on what you want not everything is available without rooting.
Unless you can tell me how to change all app dpi individually.
YouTube adblocker
Synapse
Adaway
Greenify... not as as good un rooted mode
Amplify
Smart network
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you're mentioning specific root-only apps.
obviously those won't work, but there are alternative methods with (close to) the same results.
adaway: adguard, it's better anyway(doesn't rely on a system designed for no more than 100 rules, easy to toggle on/off, supports whitelisting of apps, supports firewall functionality, and can target not just entire domains but also single lines of code)
adfree YouTube: yes this one is trickier, you'd need a 3rd party YouTube app or the website+adguard to avoid ads.
alternatively you can use "Cygery AdSkip for YouTube" to automatically skip ads after 5 seconds.
as you said, greenify works just not as effective.
similar "power saving" functions however are built in on recent android devices.
and from what I can tell every function in "smart network" except switching to 2G can be achieved without root using tasker.
synapse and per app DPI are the only things on your list that are completely impossible without root(although using game tuner's resolution settings you should be able to influence scaling in some apps)
Also if you use YouTube backgrounder, OGyoutube works great and allows background / downloading of content. I'm still looking for an ad free YouTube but this suffices in the meantime.
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krabman said:
S-health is still there, do a search and you can find instructions to access it. You should only lose secure folder and pay, if you want those things you should follow the advice above and not root your replacement phone. I'm not beating you up here but as an FYI you should have known the ramifications of rooting before you rooted, it's best to know what you're in for before you commit to a course of action that may be irreversible.
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do you have the link for it? when I try to open it, it says the following:
"Unable to open app
Because of a new security policy introduced in version 5.0, Knox is not available on compromised devices"
I've already frozen all the knox apps I could find in TB.
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
shinew said:
strange, I just checked my 2-year old Note 4, the knox has also been triggered awhile ago, but i could use S Health fine. Why would S Health have anything to do with Knox?
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S Health may use Knox to protect your health data (HIPAA in the USA).
The S-health thing is new, people are circumventing it by an app that lets you access the widget and from it you can open it up or some such, don't use it so I paid little attention to the fix. Don't remember where I saw that but it's here somewhere shine, I would peruse the development threads, I'm thinking I saw it in one of them.

Will you root?

How many of you guys plan to root? Is it worth losing secure folder etc for easier themeing, magisk modules and better ad blocking?
I do miss swift installer even though synergy works OK
No.
Planning not to but say that every new phone lol
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
No
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I've been rooting all my android phones since my first one (galaxy mini) but I stopped rooting after I bought my note 9. Now I only root my backup phones.
Theres just too many good features that I'll miss if I trip my knox.
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i think the question alot should research should be:
can i actually root before buying
I keep a rooted phone for certain things.
I don't root my daily drives now though. I think I burned myself out over the years. I prefer a stable, secure phone now.
HD2, I still love you though. ?
Every new galaxy phones I got didn't last a week without being rooted. It's my first time to buy a phone on its launching period. Most probably wont get rooted in a week or two, or maybe who knows hahaha.. depends on how our great devs would work on it lol
Rooted mine. For me i want to have the freedom of root. Don't care about the apps I loose
Already Rooted My Note 10+. Dr-Ketan Guide
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
Nope i use Samsung pay. And dont see much of a reason to root any more
Quick answer no rooting until samsung stop updates
winol said:
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
Probably later.
Because I'd like to keep the OTA updates.
liamR said:
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
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Hey,
I was also a little bit frustrated that Adhell3 didn't work anymore, but I found an alternative that might help you. I am currently using my Note8 with an app called CCSWE App Manager (can be found on the playstore). This app with the coupled with the CCSWE App Manager Pro License (also found on the playstore but paid) app allows to disable packages, it uses KNOX. Not sure if it supports Note10, but works perfectly on my Note8.
I don't care about loosing Knox crap. I will root on day 1 of any device I own. Systemwide add blocking being my #1 reason. Also there is nothing like Titanium backup out there. IMO stock rooted is always great.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
There is so much that works without root, if I feel the need to, then I might, but until then......:good:
dr.ketan said:
Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
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Thank you Dr. ketan, As always you are the best! I will looking forward to your posts

What is the ultimate way to gain privacy on Samsung S20 Ultra (iPhone User Here)

Hello,
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics.
The phone is amazing and makes my iPhone 11 feel like 4 years old, the battery is better, the screen, it's fast - the first time I've considered switching full time.
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
I'm a little out of date with the development world as I last had a Samsung Note 4.
ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
Hello,
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics.
The phone is amazing and makes my iPhone 11 feel like 4 years old, the battery is better, the screen, it's fast - the first time I've considered switching full time.
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
I'm a little out of date with the development world as I last had a Samsung Note 4.
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There are private dns and VPN options built into the device (at least the unlocked ones), which you can point at any service you want, so you just need to find one that suits your specific needs or run your own at home (which you can do easily with even the cheapest Raspberry Pi and the free Pihole app). It's always best to use this method rather than local software - it's less resource intensive, doesn't require root, and gives you more assurance that things are working the way you think they are.
As above, pihole & dns.adguard.com
For maximum security, do not root the phone.
And put the apps you feel that require more security on secure folders. That's an extra layer of protection there. There is a dedicated chip for encryption and security on the s20 just for the purpose of security and privacy.
If u know what u are doing, you can even root the phone, miss out on knox and secure folders, but install other more interesting stuff like firewall to control what apps get to use internet.
For me, secure folders, vpn is good enough.
I love the extra privacy of the secure folders.. It has its own phone book, phone app.. It's like a second phone in there and not accessible from outside.
And you can hide many things in there Including apps. Just rmb to switch off notifications from the app in secure folders..
I have a wife that loves digging through my phone.. You can customize the secure folder name and icon. I even put it on my app drawer.
You can also freely move stuff in and out of secure folders.
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ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
I have the Samsung S20 Ultra and I'm extremely impressed with it. However I'm paranoid about the integration with Google and the tele-metrics. What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
Is there a way to install xLuaPrivacy, or it root needed?
Is there a custom ROM that has privacy features?
Is there a firewall I can use to control traffic out?
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If you want to get away from Google, then you need a Google-free phone. Something that runs LineageOS. Of course, installing LineageOS requires rooting, which also compromises security to a degree. So it is a trade-off. But if you are *really* paranoid about Google tracking you, then you need to get rid of everything Google, including Google Play Services. And the only way to do that is by using a phone without Google Play Services preinstalled.
xPrivacyLua requires Magisk, which requires unlocking the bootloader. If you have a Exynos model, then you can unlock the bootloader. If you have Snapdragon, then you can't. And any software firewall will require access to system files, which is impossible without root.
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As above, pihole & dns.adguard.com
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Agreed. I use Pi-hole at home, and dns.adguard.com as my default DNS. Both are very effective at blocking ads, but neither are comprehensive solutions for extremely privacy-focused individuals.
vash_h said:
I have a wife that loves digging through my phone. You can customize the secure folder name and icon. I even put it on my app drawer.
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This is OT, but if your wife (or anyone else) is constantly snooping your phone, then there are obviously trust issues that should be addressed.
I use adguard + nordvpn + dns to block all ads and to control the Internet filtering better.
With ADB commands you can uninstall all bloatware and unnecessary stuff or disable them with package disabler Pro.
I'm on snapdragon and waiting for root release so I can use more privacy apps with magisk/xposed.
ProcurementCoordinatorNSA said:
Hello,
What is the best way to improve privacy on this device?
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Go into your Private DNS settings then go to nextdns.io to setup your free account
dv8ed said:
Go into your Private DNS settings then go to nextdns.io to setup your free account
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Sorry don't know I updated my phone to ATE4 on 6/1 not sure if I started using nextdns before or after 6/1 can't remember.
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Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Disable blocklists one at a time until you can check firmware again, and you'll have the answer.
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Disable blocklists one at a time until you can check firmware again, and you'll have the answer.
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Yea I know that, but rather than spending all that time I wanted to know if anyone already knew
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Yea I know that, but rather than spending all that time I wanted to know if anyone already knew
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This please
*Detection* said:
Any ideas which filter blocklist is stopping my S20U from checking for firmware updates?
If I set private DNS back to automatic it works fine, using nextdns kills it
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Odd, I've been using nextdns for over a month and on 2 June I was able to download & install ATE6 (the Australian releases are always slowwwww ...).
You can look at your nextdns logging to see what's being blocked when you try an update. The results are pretty much live; I used the logging to work out what was causing an app problem and whitelisted a few sites based on the blocked results in the log.

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