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[Q] G3 device root

Hi,
I got my G3 and noticed that there are some pre installed apps I can't remove (especially McAfee!). Therefore, I want to root my device in order to be able to unistall these apps. I am new at rooting, so my questions are
-How can I get updates on a rooted device? Is OTA possible or do I need to install updates via a pc tool?
-If OTA is not possible, where can I find the updates and how can I install them?
-Does LG update app inform me about updates on a rooted device or do I have to check manually on web?
-Are there any reasons why I shouldn't root my G3?
Thank you guys for your help!!!

anydr0id said:
Hi,
I got my G3 and noticed that there are some pre installed apps I can't remove (especially McAfee!). Therefore, I want to root my device in order to be able to unistall these apps. I am new at rooting, so my questions are
-How can I get updates on a rooted device? Is OTA possible or do I need to install updates via a pc tool?
-If OTA is not possible, where can I find the updates and how can I install them?
-Does LG update app inform me about updates on a rooted device or do I have to check manually on web?
-Are there any reasons why I shouldn't root my G3?
Thank you guys for your help!!!
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1. i have read ota with rooted device is possible (only without twrp!) but with lg flash tool its safer.
2. for example here... you can install them with lg flash tool.
3. if you do not turn off the ota update information you will be informed about updates but i recommend you to turn it off.
4. i think no.

I don't have experience with LG, but with other phones I've had OTA's will work on rooted device ONLY if you have stock recovery and ALL pre-installed apps, including bloatware. So if you delete McAfee, OTA's probably won't run. If you use TiBackup to freeze it, instead of deleting it, there's a good chance the OTA will run.
But I think it's probably safer to not take OTAs, if for no other reason than the next OTA could break root, and then you'd be stuck with McAfee.
Question, though: can you disable McAfee in the Application manager? If so, you would't have to root if that's your only reason.

disable root for update?
thank you!
do you recommend to remove root before using lg flashing tool, or can I use it when root is activated?
If necessary, what do you recommend to remove root? Is SuperSu the best option?
@dusu84 I was not able to disable mcafee in app manager. I used Titanium Backup to freeze it.

anydr0id said:
thank you!
do you recommend to remove root before using lg flashing tool, or can I use it when root is activated?
If necessary, what do you recommend to remove root? Is SuperSu the best option?
@dusu84 I was not able to disable mcafee in app manager. I used Titanium Backup to freeze it.
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you dont have to remove root before using lg flash tool... you will lost root anyway when you use lg flash tool.
you can choose between two flash variants... "cse" or "normal".
cse will wipe everything on your phone... normal keep your apps and data exist but you will lost root.

OTA possible if bloat are removed?

Hello. I just purchased the US version of the Honor 7x, but really hate having apps like Instagram and Facebook on my phone. I don't use them. If I root my phone, is it possible to remove these apps and maybe a few unused Google apps and still receive any future OTA? Thanks in advance.

Good question phone hasn't arrived yet but definitely don't want crapbook and tweaker on it.

bloodbath said:
Hello. I just purchased the US version of the Honor 7x, but really hate having apps like Instagram and Facebook on my phone. I don't use them. If I root my phone, is it possible to remove these apps and maybe a few unused Google apps and still receive any future OTA? Thanks in advance.
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Sadly, on the first OTA for Mate2, removing one of the Huawei-created bloatware caused the update to fail. Don't know what the policy is now. So I'd keep backups of removed bloatware. (I think that the OTA was trying to update one of the missing bloatware but there was no option to ignore the error and continue with simply the OS upgrade.)

bloodbath said:
Hello. I just purchased the US version of the Honor 7x, but really hate having apps like Instagram and Facebook on my phone. I don't use them. If I root my phone, is it possible to remove these apps and maybe a few unused Google apps and still receive any future OTA? Thanks in advance.
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You can't apply OTA even if you unroot after root without even touching system apps. This is the case with 7X.

It's not the removing of bloat that causes problems with OTA's. It's what you have to do in order to remove bloat which is rooting the phone. Rooting modifies the system data which then fails the check performed when an OTA tries to install. Rooting modifies the system partition and adding twrp modifies the boot partition. So as of now doing anything other than unlocking the bootloader will give you problems whenever we get official OTA.

SVR said:
You can't apply OTA even if you unroot after root without even touching system apps. This is the case with 7X.
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str8stryk3r said:
It's not the removing of bloat that causes problems with OTA's. It's what you have to do in order to remove bloat which is rooting the phone.
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That's unfortunate. It has been many years since the Mate2 but I don't recall it being as restrictive back then. If I recall correctly, I was able to leave the phone rooted as long I restored stock bootloader and stock recovery. But the OTA failed when it was trying to update one or more of the Huawei apps so I only had to restore the boatware from TB.
I guess I should keep backups of all stock images before rooting. Thanks for the info.

This is very disheartening to hear. With the new additions (e. g. Facial recognition) supposedly incorporated into the next update, I would like to keep OTA. The other items taking up space on my phone is very annoying though. Oh well, I guess the apps aren't a big issue for now. I just wish Huawei would have let us choose our own apps.

bloodbath said:
This is very disheartening to hear. With the new additions (e. g. Facial recognition) supposedly incorporated into the next update, I would like to keep OTA. The other items taking up space on my phone is very annoying though. Oh well, I guess the apps aren't a big issue for now. I just wish Huawei would have let us choose our own apps.
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Well eventually/hopefully, we'll get some devs to pick up development on the device where twrp, root, and custom roms will let us get our phones to the way we want them. I stayed away from twrp and rooting just for that reason. I just disabled all the crap they added that I don't use

str8stryk3r said:
Well eventually/hopefully, we'll get some devs to pick up development on the device where twrp, root, and custom roms will let us get our phones to the way we want them. I stayed away from twrp and rooting just for that reason. I just disabled all the crap they added that I don't use
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Seeing that the initial popularity and price point for the quality of phone have been positive so far, I do think that will happen. I too am staying away until it occurs. I have ignored the apps I don't like for now, but truly miss apps like Adaway and Titanium Backup, which require root. Oh well, soon hopefully.

I have been able to remove a few apps

I've been rooting phones since the original (G1), but I've now arrived at the point where rooting is no longer the irresistible desire it used to be. I know heavily skinned versions of Android like EMUI & MIUI are not for everyone, but I actually enjoy them. I'm patiently waiting for the OTA. Once Oreo arrives, I might consider rooting, but I'm in no rush.

There are some apps you can uninstall without root.

You can uninstall third party apps like Facebook, that was the first thing I did

I haven't rooted or installed twrp yet until the L24 releases the stock firmware but as another user stated you can remove some of the third party apps. The ones that Huawei made system apps that can't be removed without root are the ones that would give problems with the ota like the stock launcher and the Sim toolkits and other various crap. I wish they would hurry up with the stock firmware release because there are some things I'd like to do that require root

U can remove the blotware without rooting by using adb ..
Just follow the link

sivaukxc said:
U can remove the blotware without rooting by using adb ..
Just follow the link
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But again, removing system apps could cause the ota to fail if one of those apps tries to get updated and it's not there

Why do/dont i have to root my phone

Hi all.
First, sorry about my english.
Second, I come from op3t and until this phone i've rooted all my phones.
I got op5t for a year almost and still didnt make it rooted.
I want to know the postivie things about root and the negative things about root.
I mean like... Does it help for less battery darin and etc.
Thanks

About the only reason I personally root is for adaway. For me there is no downside as I can still use banking and NFC payment apps.

I can't use my phone without root.
Root is necessary to completely block ads in whole rom.
Then you can theme your system with substratum
Which is best part & most beautiful thing of root.
Oos is basically root ready.. so have it.
Or you can just stay as you are with unaware to alot of things.

Some banking apps detect the root and does not work.? What is the best possible method to hide the root from those apps?

if only battery optimised is what you need, try custom kernel or wakelock app, you don't really need root for those needs

vgowtham97 said:
Some banking apps detect the root and does not work.? What is the best possible method to hide the root from those apps?
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Magisk Hide within magisk manager.

Kirahvi said:
Magisk Hide within magisk manager.
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so, you say that root is something that i should do yes?
i understand that if i want to root i need to wipe everything and thats scares me, i afraid to lose some improtant stuff

Is there anything you want to do with your phone that you can't do because you aren't rooted? If yes watch a couple of guides on how to backup and root your phone. If no don't root.

Kirahvi said:
Is there anything you want to do with your phone that you can't do because you aren't rooted? If yes watch a couple of guides on how to backup and root your phone. If no don't root.
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i tell you what, i know that i can customise my phone and make my battery better, i got battery drain after pie update and i thought to root to make my phone better

(Question) rooting and back to stock

Hi guys
It’s been awhile since I had a Samsung phone
Anyhow I remember that if you are rooting your phone I will not be able to go back to stock and keep receiving updates regularly and also the user will not be able to use any Samsung service since there is some security on the device board
I wonder if it’s still the situation in galaxy s21 series
thanks

Yes OTA updates will be disabled for the rooted device. But you can easily install them if you so wish without loosing root by temporarily removing root without rebooting the device. Follow this guide for full process.
As for the services, I didn't hear about a service that's disabled by rooting. But if it happens you can easily replace said services by downloading alternatives or using specific modules in magisk manager.

Thank you
I’m asking because if I will ever want to sell the device it will be impossible

sagiag said:
Thank you
I’m asking because if I will ever want to sell the device it will be impossible
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Not at all.
You can just do this:
Unroot.
Remove Samsung and google account.
Flash stock ROM [Optional, unless you flashed a custom ROM]
Lock the bootloader.
And that's it you can sell it as just lightly used.

I think you wouldn't be able to use Secure Folder after root.

dalanik said:
I think you wouldn't be able to use Secure Folder after root.
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Knox is disabled after rooting, similarly anything knox dependant will be disabled as well. I thought he meant some other services like samsung health or other bloatware.

Question Question about unroot

hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?

Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot

Samarimama said:
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
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the thing is it won't be like it used to be, when ever I boot it will say unofficial software and bank apps wouldn't work, I used magisk to root with AP

Diosee said:
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
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Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.

AljosaXXX said:
Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
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You can use banking apps when phone is rooted and you enable denylist in magisk for specific apps. But when knox is tripped and you flash original firmware, you won't have that option