Hi all.
First, sorry about my english.
Second, I come from op3t and until this phone i've rooted all my phones.
I got op5t for a year almost and still didnt make it rooted.
I want to know the postivie things about root and the negative things about root.
I mean like... Does it help for less battery darin and etc.
Thanks
About the only reason I personally root is for adaway. For me there is no downside as I can still use banking and NFC payment apps.
I can't use my phone without root.
Root is necessary to completely block ads in whole rom.
Then you can theme your system with substratum
Which is best part & most beautiful thing of root.
Oos is basically root ready.. so have it.
Or you can just stay as you are with unaware to alot of things.
Some banking apps detect the root and does not work.? What is the best possible method to hide the root from those apps?
if only battery optimised is what you need, try custom kernel or wakelock app, you don't really need root for those needs
vgowtham97 said:
Some banking apps detect the root and does not work.? What is the best possible method to hide the root from those apps?
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Magisk Hide within magisk manager.
Kirahvi said:
Magisk Hide within magisk manager.
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so, you say that root is something that i should do yes?
i understand that if i want to root i need to wipe everything and thats scares me, i afraid to lose some improtant stuff
Is there anything you want to do with your phone that you can't do because you aren't rooted? If yes watch a couple of guides on how to backup and root your phone. If no don't root.
Kirahvi said:
Is there anything you want to do with your phone that you can't do because you aren't rooted? If yes watch a couple of guides on how to backup and root your phone. If no don't root.
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i tell you what, i know that i can customise my phone and make my battery better, i got battery drain after pie update and i thought to root to make my phone better
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Wht are the advantage of rooting ? How to change stock icon pakage in google now launcher without rooting ?
Main advantages of rooting I see:
- easy backup (Titanium Backup), you can access data of apps.
- copy/move of data with attributes including timestamps is possible.
- possibility to modify system, like enabling disabled features.
- it is your device. You did not rent it. Noone should technically restrict your ability to do anything with it.
modify system - xposed, remove unwanted app and data
If you don't know the advantages of rooting, you don't need rooting.
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If you don't know the advantages of rooting, you don't need rooting.
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He's not asking what the advantages of rooting are. He's asking what YOU root your phone for. IMO lol.
Anw, in the past when I used to root my phone, it was mainly to disable the bloatwares, install Adaway and to backup my phone before wandering into the endless world of Custom ROM. Now I'm old and want to settle down. My only urge to root my MZP now is to install adaway and get rid of all the annoying ads. But then again, they are not that annoying.
@vietkao, if AdAway is your only reason for root, you probably should give DNS66 a try. It works similar to AdAway, but does not need root. Only restriction: It works as vpn, so it can not run at the same time as another vpn. Gain: you may disable or enable it per app.
I need some help and I've looked all over but the information is fragmented and there is too many unfamiliar acronyms used which make it incredibly difficult for some like myself to catch up. So for the benefit of others who may be new I wanted to get some additional guidance.
I got the Pixel XL Google Version
Objectives:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
2. Native Mobile Hotspot
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc..
4. Stay close to stock if possible, but willing to explore other options as long as security is trusted, and has good
compatibility.
5. Security is a concern, I tried a rom in the past with a Galaxy S4 and swear it had a backdoor installed in the rom.
What do you guys recommend? And how do I go about doing it?
Thank you!
If security is truly a concern you will not unlock your bootloader and root your phone.
Otherwise it all depends on which version phone you have, Verizon or Google?
1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.
mikaole said:
1. You need magisk root for that.
3. No updates when you are rooted
4.5. Never heard of any custom rom with a backdoor. That's absolutely bull****. More likely it was an app you installed.
Unlocked bootloader is a security issue, so better to stay on full stock.
Root is a big security issue so better stay on full stock.
I have the Pixel XL - Google Version
Jokes aside the only security issue is your phone gets stolen or you install apps outside playstore.
If you stay encrypted and use a hard pattern with fingerprint you are fine and there is always the way to delete your phone when it gets stolen.
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My point about security really was that it's quite possible a ROM could have a backdoor. That a side..
Root is not a big security issue for me as long as the rom is trusted etc..
Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?
jadensmith said:
1. Root with the ability to hide root so other apps will work
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It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
3. The ability to easily receive android updates without having to reflash etc.
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FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
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Shouldn't I be able to turn root off then be able to update and turn it back on again?
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While reading I got the impression that I might be able to uninstall SuperSU and use the OTA update, but that didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presume something SuperSU changed or something I did with root must have caused the update to fail. I haven't read the Magisk threads as much, yet I've seen that other SuperSU users also indicate that OTA updates no longer worked for them after rooting the phone.
alluringreality said:
It's possible to root to one slot with SuperSU while the other slot remains unrooted, and then the phone can be switched between slots with TWRP or fastboot commands. Kernels have been posted with safetynet patches, to hide that the bootloader is unlocked, but I'm not sure if any are available with the software version on my phone's current slot. As noted, Magisk can also hide root and that the bootloader is unlocked, so it's probably less hassle than trying to root and hide using SuperSU.
FlashFire can use the OTA to update and stay rooted with SuperSU. The past couple months I've used FlashFire to update my phone, and it seems quicker and easier than the sideloading and reinstalling process I had been using. I'm not aware of anything similar to FlashFire for Magisk users, so to me it seems like you would have to decide if 1 or 3 is more personally important.
That didn't work with SuperSU the times I tried it, so I presumed that something I did with root must have caused the update to fail to install.
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Wow thanks for the great reply! It's so refreshing!
What do you mean by root one slot?
The phone has two "slots" for Android. The basic idea is that you have two copies of Android on the phone that share the same user data. On a stock phone it's intended to allow for less noticeable updates, and it also can allow the phone to fall back to the previous software version if something goes wrong with an update. On the May update my phone did automatically switch between slots, due to what is discussed in the second link below. The first link below gives some information and additional links to discussion about the slots on these phones.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-partition-changes-and-new-fastboot-commands/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
Is it possible to keep stock or near stock and just have root with the ability to hide root, and hotspot?
That's all I really need. What would be the best way to to do this?
I just rooted with Supersu on my OP3, but reading more into this all rooting thing, I found out about Magisk. I dont know which one i should use.
I'm only rooting for apps that require root on the play store, that can help me auto farm and stuff in games. nothing much. I probably will touch Xposed for some bypassing root detection or something that can help me in games. That's really all im gonna use root for.
Thanks!:laugh:
if you're purpose is hiding apps from play store so you should go with Magisk it does that automatically without the need of something else...
also Xposed doesn't work on Nougat
AllenPlaysGames said:
I just rooted with Supersu on my OP3, but reading more into this all rooting thing, I found out about Magisk. I dont know which one i should use.
I'm only rooting for apps that require root on the play store, that can help me auto farm and stuff in games. nothing much. I probably will touch Xposed for some bypassing root detection or something that can help me in games. That's really all im gonna use root for.
Thanks!:laugh:
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If you need to pass safetynet (ie. some banking/payment apps and games like Pokemon Go require this), I'd recommend going the Magisk route; it has a built in toggle/tick box for this function.
With Xposed, we don't currently have a stable Xposed for Nougat, although this is getting closer and closer. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but if Xposed is active, you will fail safetynet. Again, Magisk has a toggle for enabling/disabling Xposed if you need it to pass safetynet, but everytime you toggle this, you will have to reboot your phone.
If you don't care about safetynet, then either or has solutions to what you're looking to do (with hiding root).
Hw4ng3r said:
If you need to pass safetynet (ie. some banking/payment apps and games like Pokemon Go require this), I'd recommend going the Magisk route; it has a built in toggle/tick box for this function.
With Xposed, we don't currently have a stable Xposed for Nougat, although this is getting closer and closer. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but if Xposed is active, you will fail safetynet. Again, Magisk has a toggle for enabling/disabling Xposed if you need it to pass safetynet, but everytime you toggle this, you will have to reboot your phone.
If you don't care about safetynet, then either or has solutions to what you're looking to do (with hiding root).
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So like, if you want to cheat on more "secure" games (like games made by bigger companies) u need to bypass safetynet. And Magisk is better for that
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So like, if you want to cheat on more "secure" games (like games made by bigger companies) u need to bypass safetynet. And Magisk is better for that
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yes
Magisk all the way. It's so much more easier to use and a ton more functional especially with the modules.
MAGISK ??
See my sig ^^ Even my Watch is modded with it
Magisk.
SuperSU is now owned by a Chinese company so we have no idea what they are doing with the data. And i don't trust root access by a closed system.
AllenPlaysGames said:
I just rooted with Supersu on my OP3, but reading more into this all rooting thing, I found out about Magisk. I dont know which one i should use.
I'm only rooting for apps that require root on the play store, that can help me auto farm and stuff in games. nothing much. I probably will touch Xposed for some bypassing root detection or something that can help me in games. That's really all im gonna use root for.
Thanks!:laugh:
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Hello!
I will receive a oneplus 9 pro next week and wonder if i shall root it or not. I want to use titanium backup and a few other apps that need root permission, but i also dont want to loose widevine level 1 for netflix and amazon video in hd, want to use my banking app and mcdonalds app.
i havent followed the magisk/root discussion for maybe a year or two (used a unrooted stock phone), so i am not up to date how things are at the moment.
just to be clear, please can someone answer the following questions:
1.) is unlocking bootloader (no root afterwards) enough to loose widevine level 1? can level 1 be gained again when bootloader is locked again or is lost permanent (like triggering knox with samsung).
2.) any problems with mcdonalds app and magisk? google pay?
after reading to the internet on the subject totday, i get the impression that rooting nowadays causes more problems thn benefits, but maybe i get a wrong impression.
flotsch1 said:
Hello!
I will receive a oneplus 9 pro next week and wonder if i shall root it or not. I want to use titanium backup and a few other apps that need root permission, but i also dont want to loose widevine level 1 for netflix and amazon video in hd, want to use my banking app and mcdonalds app.
i havent followed the magisk/root discussion for maybe a year or two (used a unrooted stock phone), so i am not up to date how things are at the moment.
just to be clear, please can someone answer the following questions:
1.) is unlocking bootloader (no root afterwards) enough to loose widevine level 1? can level 1 be gained again when bootloader is locked again or is lost permanent (like triggering knox with samsung).
2.) any problems with mcdonalds app and magisk? google pay?
after reading to the internet on the subject totday, i get the impression that rooting nowadays causes more problems thn benefits, but maybe i get a wrong impression.
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Use the canary builds of Magisk, enable MagiskHide, and toggle the apps in question, and you're golden. Also, just to be sure, toggle it on for Google stuff like the Google app, Google Play Store, Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Netflix, McDonald's, GPay, and any other banking or streaming subscription apps. Might want to have Magisk hide its self by changing the app name and signature as well.
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Use the canary builds of Magisk, enable MagiskHide, and toggle the apps in question, and you're golden. Also, just to be sure, toggle it on for Google stuff like the Google app, Google Play Store, Google Play Services, Google Services Framework, Netflix, McDonald's, GPay, and any other banking or streaming subscription apps. Might want to have Magisk hide its self by changing the app name and signature as well.
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thank you for the information.
so i will definitely not loose widevine l1 with unlocking bootloader and root?
to hide magisk itself (change name and signature), i just need to turn this option on in magisk and not need to do this in a manual way?
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thank you for the information.
so i will definitely not loose widevine l1 with unlocking bootloader and root?
to hide magisk itself (change name and signature), i just need to turn this option on in magisk and not need to do this in a manual way?
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Correct, by default it will change to a "default" app icon and rename itself to "Settings" but you can easily still tell it from the device's own system Settings app.
one last question.
following this root instruction https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-magisk-unlock-root-keep-root-oos-11-2-7-7.4252373/ , do i have to use the provided boot images? i feel safer to download the full ota from oneplus official site and extract payload.bin and then use payload dumper to get a boot.img.
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one last question.
following this root instruction https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-magisk-unlock-root-keep-root-oos-11-2-7-7.4252373/ , do i have to use the provided boot images? i feel safer to download the full ota from oneplus official site and extract payload.bin and then use payload dumper to get a boot.img.
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If you are leery of using someone else's boot.img, feel free to do that if you'd like. But regardless, be sure to boot the image, don't flash it. Booting it not only gives you the temporary root access to install Magisk yourself, but also ensures that the patched boot.img is actually valid.
v23 has a fix for SafetyNet API. It looks like that supersedes anything from the last canary/debug builds, so it's probably safe to stick with that. Everything else is the same, though.
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v23 has a fix for SafetyNet API. It looks like that supersedes anything from the last canary/debug builds, so it's probably safe to stick with that. Everything else is the same, though.
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V23?
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V23?
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Latest stable Magisk build. I'm saying you won't need to mess with canary/debug.
When you turn on hide then hide the app the in the settings then your allowed to do anything you like but also hide it in the menu of magisk then your all done don't flash to much crap and magisk hide module is not really finished yet for this device good luck
I rooted it the second i got it
And don't use canary builds of magisk only if you want to run your phone very unstable i recommend the stable version
thanks alot for the information.
i still hazzle to root. i had a oneplus 3 2 years ago and had magisk root/custom rom/twrp, but i also had issues on regular basis and spent alot of time on xda and with flashing. dont know if i want this again or just a phone that works.
and just to be sure:
in case i loose my widevine level 1 because of root or bootloader unlock: will it come back when locking bootloader again and/or unroot. or will it be level 3 forever?
Wildvine L1 is not always retained when unlocking the bootloader. If I unlock mine, I go to L3 every single time, but when I lock it back, I go back to L1. I've tested this 3 times and it happened all 3 times.
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thanks alot for the information.
i still hazzle to root. i had a oneplus 3 2 years ago and had magisk root/custom rom/twrp, but i also had issues on regular basis and spent alot of time on xda and with flashing. dont know if i want this again or just a phone that works.
and just to be sure:
in case i loose my widevine level 1 because of root or bootloader unlock: will it come back when locking bootloader again and/or unroot. or will it be level 3 forever?
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Well to be honest I never had that problem and i need to have my binance hidden as well and everything works well but with some games like slime hunter i really need to hide magisk it self too from the settings but when you do they everything will be working okay. And so far I have seen with magisk hide module what you can download is that there are no keys yet for using in op9p (could be changed didn't check it for a while now)
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
Samarimama said:
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
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the thing is it won't be like it used to be, when ever I boot it will say unofficial software and bank apps wouldn't work, I used magisk to root with AP
Diosee said:
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
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Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
AljosaXXX said:
Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
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You can use banking apps when phone is rooted and you enable denylist in magisk for specific apps. But when knox is tripped and you flash original firmware, you won't have that option