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Little rant to get it out of my chest...

Disclaimer: This is rant, a civilized one, if you disagree with me, you are welcome to illustrate me but offenses are not appreciated.
This phone is great, but it refuses to be acceptable as a daily driver.
Developers are the best people in the world, they do what they do with no return at all sometimes, but the software (the lack of a good kernel base) makes it really hard to enjoy. I could never get more than 4.5 hours of SOT on any ROM, whereas stock would give me at least 5.5; however stock software is a bad joke for the Android base and the camera output is nerve wracking...
The CDLA headphones are a must, no one likes the dongle and it seems that (due to broken kernel) no dev was able to figure out this one (clarifying again that I don't blame them). So my options are to get used to carry the dongle or to the crack and pop from the CDLA ones... hmmmmmm......
I see the exact same story as with the Amazon phone, on its time, the Amazon phone had a really good thing going here in XDA, but the bootloader was never unlocked and the momentum was lost. I had to let go on my Fire phone....
For the LePro3, many great options are at hand at the same price, I'm looking heavily right now at the LG G5 from the $200 custom rom on eBay, WAY BETTER camera (like 10X times better), about the same battery life if you compare custom ROM of LePro3 vs stock of LG G5, and I have to admit that although I dislike LG's interface, it is tolerable.
Also, the LeEco servers (including the one that supports OTAs) has been down for at least 3 days (that I have tried myself), like seriously, we know the company is nearly in bankruptcy although still having customer support working, but the fact that security updates have halted and servers are down, tells me that there is something wrong going on.
At $200 dlls that I got the phone for, it is still not worth it for *me*.
My Moto Z play was $450 with a hasselblad camera mod that I was able to sell to get $100 in return, so for $350, I would still take yet another Moto Z Play at the current price, with way lower specifications, than taking a LePro3 for $200.

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I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.

Jose-MXL said:
Disclaimer: This is rant, a civilized one, if you disagree with me, you are welcome to illustrate me but offenses are not appreciated.
This phone is great, but it refuses to be acceptable as a daily driver.
Developers are the best people in the world, they do what they do with no return at all sometimes, but the software (the lack of a good kernel base) makes it really hard to enjoy. I could never get more than 4.5 hours of SOT on any ROM, whereas stock would give me at least 5.5; however stock software is a bad joke for the Android base and the camera output is nerve wracking...
The CDLA headphones are a must, no one likes the dongle and it seems that (due to broken kernel) no dev was able to figure out this one (clarifying again that I don't blame them). So my options are to get used to carry the dongle or to the crack and pop from the CDLA ones... hmmmmmm......
I see the exact same story as with the Amazon phone, on its time, the Amazon phone had a really good thing going here in XDA, but the bootloader was never unlocked and the momentum was lost. I had to let go on my Fire phone....
For the LePro3, many great options are at hand at the same price, I'm looking heavily right now at the LG G5 from the $200 custom rom on eBay, WAY BETTER camera (like 10X times better), about the same battery life if you compare custom ROM of LePro3 vs stock of LG G5, and I have to admit that although I dislike LG's interface, it is tolerable.
Also, the LeEco servers (including the one that supports OTAs) has been down for at least 3 days (that I have tried myself), like seriously, we know the company is nearly in bankruptcy although still having customer support working, but the fact that security updates have halted and servers are down, tells me that there is something wrong going on.
At $200 dlls that I got the phone for, it is still not worth it for *me*.
My Moto Z play was $450 with a hasselblad camera mod that I was able to sell to get $100 in return, so for $350, I would still take yet another Moto Z Play at the current price, with way lower specifications, than taking a LePro3 for $200.
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rivethead23 said:
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
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I have to agree with rivethead23 I got the Pro 3 and immediately flashed the Turbo Destroyer rom on it and have never had any regrets
I also bought an LG G6 and I found it was no upgrade to the Pro 3 and ended up returning it.
My advice is to Flash the Turbo EUI 21S v20 rom and Nova launcher with Nova Google companion and you get the best experience from this device

rivethead23 said:
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
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Pretty much this.
I'm using the phone on stock 26s, pretty heavily customized though: Magisk, Xposed, Viper, GravityBox, Tasker, stock android/Google apps like Dialer Contact Messages Calendar Keep Hangout Gmail etc., Nova Launcher with companion, PlayerPro and VLC, Brave browser... I removed all Chinese bloatware, and stock apps I don't need anymore like Contact, Message, Music, Video, Browser, Launcher, LIVE, lots of LeEco apps, etc. Disabled all stock extra memory optimizations to let Android deal with memory. Splash and bootanim without Chinese. Etc.
It works really great, battery is still really good (I often have 5 or 5.5 hours SoT at the end of the day), I customized a lot of things to make it exactly how I wanted it. So far, the best device I owned, and one of the cheapest...

ZeblodS said:
Pretty much this.
I'm using the phone on stock 26s, pretty heavily customized though: Magisk, Xposed, Viper, GravityBox, Tasker, stock android/Google apps like Dialer Contact Messages Calendar Keep Hangout Gmail etc., Nova Launcher with companion, PlayerPro and VLC, Brave browser... I removed all Chinese bloatware, and stock apps I don't need anymore like Contact, Message, Music, Video, Browser, Launcher, LIVE, lots of LeEco apps, etc. Disabled all stock extra memory optimizations to let Android deal with memory. Splash and bootanim without Chinese. Etc.
It works really great, battery is still really good (I often have 5 or 5.5 hours SoT at the end of the day), I customized a lot of things to make it exactly how I wanted it. So far, the best device I owned, and one of the cheapest...
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Is 26s an official update? I've only received 21s ota on my x727

darkmuck said:
Is 26s an official update? I've only received 21s ota on my x727
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It's the latest Chinese stock ROM for x720.

ALSO RANT:
Well the issue is with android itself, there is no real AOSP phone, i don't get why manufaturers just don't put AOSP on phone and be done with it, i guess target for android phones are geeks, at least this kind of android phones. I wanted dual sim phone, but now i think i will manage some woraround and go ios, as bad as it is, OS is much more polished and unified.
Even Moto with almost stock android still does not get direct google updates, it is just bad design.
BTW i use pro3 as daily, i get 8 + hours SOT with stock firmare, i managed to get ACR to work quite good, DND to work quite good, but still, default apps, like browser does not work, google integration is crap, even with launcher 3, missing pulldown is a joke and google services crash quite often so ... meh, but still better then my gs4 with new battery and lineage
Oh and also the ambient light sensors sets screen too dim for me at night, until now I had opposite problem with all the other phones i had.
I also have galaxy s7 at hand to use and in my opinion samsung android is even worse.
The main issue is there is really no Android OS, no phone with AOSP, which is only real Android OS, only ****ton of phones with more or less molested OS.
BTW my budget was 1100usd for a phone, i still chose pro3 and I still think, despite it's flaws, for me, it is best choice, which is sad, but it is reality, we can't change it, reality is reality. I will try z2 force with battery pack if they sell it officially in Czech, but I don't expect much.

Oh my I thought I was the only one with the headphone issue

Hmm my Le Pro 3 is coming soon... But I'm more likely to just sell It while it's new and make some $$$ of it. Seeing this rants and all... AOSP/lineage is a must for me, same as Oreo.
Just gonna buy OP5 to replace my Bacon. Maybe that jelly pentile so not exactly FHD, POS display won't be so bad...

FunkyRasta said:
Hmm my Le Pro 3 is coming soon... But I'm more likely to just sell It while it's new and make some $$$ of it. Seeing this rants and all... AOSP/lineage is a must for me, same as Oreo.
Just gonna buy OP5 to replace my Bacon. Maybe that jelly pentile so not exactly FHD, POS display won't be so bad...
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These rants are about things that we would like to have on the device and are inevitable, like the fact that we knew that there was no headphone jack and that the CDLA headphones are not perfect on custom software, we knew it and still took the chance, not the phone or dev's fault.
Other than that, the phone is amazing, you should give it a go, I don't think you can get too much money out of it, this is the wrong phone to re-sell for higher.
Also, you have a very specific example from other people in this thread, which is, you might like stock software which gives you the best battery life for the device.

Jose-MXL said:
These rants are about things that we would like to have on the device and are inevitable, like the fact that we knew that there was no headphone jack and that the CDLA headphones are not perfect on custom software, we knew it and still took the chance, not the phone or dev's fault.
Other than that, the phone is amazing, you should give it a go, I don't think you can get too much money out of it, this is the wrong phone to re-sell for higher.
Also, you have a very specific example from other people in this thread, which is, you might like stock software which gives you the best battery life for the device.
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I pretty OK with using adapter, no problem with me. I ordered it from China so when it gets to Europe it is worth more. I certainly would not lose money on it.
The only things that worry me are uncertain future of Oreo on this device and overall stability. I currently manage over 4 hours SOT with my OnePlus One.... Why this thing with 4070 Mah (thousand f-ing more) does 4.5 H or slightly more ? With newer SoC, screen etc. Stock software is a no-go for me. Android 6.0 is a no-go for me. So I rely on custom ROMs and dev support. At least dev support here is great!

Coming from Nexus and Nexus 5x, I was used to having so many roms and kernels. Getting LP3 was a big big jump and I did not like it in early days when no roms were available.
Now with more than enough roms and solid kernels, I do not miss anything. Omni Rom gives me 9 hrs of screen on time for my usage. It does not feel/act different than roms I used before.
The only problem was the camera performance. But with Google Camera port, that is no longer a problem now.

What bugs are still present in the P2?

Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?

TLxda-d said:
Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?
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Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.

senseijtitus said:
Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.
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Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.

TLxda-d said:
Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.
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I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.

senseijtitus said:
I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.
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But you did experience distortion from the speaker at some point? Did it also happen with the custom ROMs you tried?
And I actually have another question now: I read that it's better to buy the global P2a42 version if you're outside of China, but that many sellers take the Chinese P2c72 and simply change the firmware to the global one, then calling it "Global P2".
I can already see that there are band differences, and that not all of my local LTE bands are supported in the Chinese P2 (band 7 is missing, I didn't check regarding non-LTE bands). Are there any other differences?
And someone claimed that the 64gb/4gb RAM units are all by hardware Chinese P2c72. Is that true? I can't even find someone selling a non-64gb P2.

I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.

Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this

Sutcliffe9 said:
I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.
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Do you have the real global version (P2a42 hardware)?
debo12345 said:
Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this
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What version of P2 you have? P2a42 or the Chinese P2c72?
Seeing how many different reports about bugs being fixed or not come from current users, it makes me think maybe it has something to do with the version of your unit and its compatibility with the firmware.
And I can't find any normal seller of the P2a42 version, what the hell...
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Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?

Sutcliffe9 said:
Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?
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Well, the version sold in the UK must have been the actual ROW version. I can't find it available to me anywhere! And where it might be – it is sold for a crazy amount of money (and let's be real, it covers more frequencies but it is just 32gb vs 64gb). Why is this? Lenovo must still be manufacturing the P2a42 as it is still sold in East Asian stores, but I can't find any of them that ships abroad. Well, I found one Malaysian store that ships the P2a42 internationally, but it costs $300 already without the shipping and I'm from Israel, so they might not even ship to me (and they use DHL, which means 100% chance I'll have to pay an extra 17% when it arrives...).
It's really starting to seem to me like many of the complaints SOME of the userbase has is from using the non-ROW unit with a ROW ROM. Otherwise, I can't explain why everyone is saying they have the latest firmware but one is person is experiencing weird bugs and the other isn't.
And in specific regards to the frequency band coverage, I don't understand some of these Chinese sellers. Are they lying about the specifications, are they oblivious to the actual specifications, are do they just have access to some third kind of model? This frequency-support information for the P2a42 and then for the P2c72 came from the website pdadb.net (I found the links on XDA), and then there is the citation found on gearbest.com
This is some incoherent amalgam of the frequencies supported by either model, plus band 4 which isn't originally cited for either of them (though GSMArena does mention it, but it doesn't distinguish between the models and perhaps it's incorrect).

If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks

Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.

philje123 said:
Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.
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So, you don't have any bugs in video playback? Like stuttering

No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)

philje123 said:
No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)
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That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
Sporkyz said:
If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks
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What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?

I had P2a42 4GB-32GB version for about half a year ( 12/2016-06/2017 ) and it was great, no problems . Sold it only because the camera was nothing special. I now have LG G5se and have to charge it twice a day. Want to buy P2 again but with this bug i'm not realy sure if it would be a good idea.
Hope it only affects asian version.

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That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?
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You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd

Sporkyz said:
You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd
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Well, I downloaded the app and on my Xperia Z3 it says (under Google Widevine Modular DRM) Security Level L1. Is that what you were referring to, and does that mean Netflix doesn't allow my Z3 to stream in HD because of the DRM?
I don't watch Netflix on my phone too often, though I thought it possibly looks lower than HD – though it doesn't bother me too much on the smaller screen.
But I did google "Netflix DRM" after you mentioned this and some results about rooted devices not being able to run/download the Netflix app due to DRM change came up.
And does anyone know of some service, in India, which allows you to deliver an item you purchased from a non-international store to their own address and then they ship it internationally to you?
I barely find any options for a real P2a42, but there is this Indian website Flipkart where they sell it for a reasonable price, only problem is they solely ship within India. I don't remember how are these called, but I heard of a couple US-based warehouses through which you can ship (for example) Amazon items which normally can't be shipped to you.

You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.

razorsbk said:
You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.
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Yeah, but that is the Chinese version. They just changed the ROM to the international one.
Check the supported frequency bands on a different website to see if the P2c72 model will actually work with your local cellular network, but either way they both explained how OTA updating won't work with the units they sell, and I think there might be a higher chance for the reported bugs to happen on these modded Chinese P2's.

Pixel 3a XL feels much slower on Android 11 compared to Android 10, how to solve?

I use a Pixel 3a XL for some time now. (got also a new replacement phone 1,5 month ago, so fully fresh)
It was working very good and responsive with Android 9, even better with Android 10.
But after the update to Android 11, everything feels much slower, lag in apps, starting apps etc.
I already did a full wipe, factory reset, a few times, but this doesn't help.
How to make the phone (1,5 month old) feels as good as it was with Android 10 again?
I know that I can flash a custom ROM, but if possible I want to keep the original ROM.
Thanks already for the tips and tricks.

Granted my days of flashing ROMs and tinkering with Android are well gone, I heated that performance is indeed less than ideal on Android 11, especially compared with 10. So I clean flashed official 10 and installed Elemental X kernel and magisk. Security patch is out of date, but the phone is smooth and stable, with exceptional battery life, def better than stock 10, not to mention 11.
Just my experience. YMMV.

Los is currently based on 10 and is updated weekly. Is what I run as also wasn't impressed with 11

I had pretty much the same problem updating 10 to 11. I flashed 2 monthlies and 11 was noticeably laggier and slower than 10. I was thinking I was going to have to buy a new phone. I first tried to do a full wipe and flash from scratch and that resolved it. It was a night and day difference. Been 2 or 3 weeks now since I did that and I'd venture to say that its about the same speed/responsiveness now as it was on 10.

Is anyone seeing performance restored to Android 10 level now that Dec 2020 udpate is out?

alvin612 said:
Is anyone seeing performance restored to Android 10 level now that Dec 2020 udpate is out?
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no this phone is a POS and it is still horribly broken
after android 11 update
i have experienced multiple multiple issues that make this phone completely worthless and totally unusable to me since updating
including but not limited to
2)texting photos not working ,text goes though but if a photo is attached nothing goes thorugh(TMO) ,
3)visual voice mail not working in phone app(TMO)
4)using volume rocker in any way stops all sound and crashes app or stops phone from ringing , once i touch volume rocker in either direction all sound stops
5)trusted voice unlock not working, option not available
6)smart lock trusted device not working , relocks phone after a couple minutes ,tried multiple bluetooth devices make no difference phone always relocks
7)android auto automatically launches at random for no reason
8) android auto auto launch setting problem, add car bluetooth to auto launch android auto
exit settings , go back to settings, no devices listed for autolaunch , automatically deletes all auto launch devices
9) screen is not able to be used during a call in progress
screen blinks on and off while trying to use the screen during a call
10) Android auto in completely broken and unuseable now
11) google assistant is completely broken and unuseable now
says it can not reach google ,(on LTE with full bars or with wifi on on and LTE)
or it just pulls up a list of suggested things to say no matter what you try to do
or if it does register what you say it is so far off it's ridiculous , ,example: "hey google turn of the bedroom light" , registers as "jennifer" and it either does nothing or results in a google search
not able to be used for navigation, or smarthome control at all in any ways because of aforementioned issues
this phone is a piece of trash ,android 11 is a garbage fire
and Google is a criminal enterprise who refuse to honor warranties
my phone is less that 2 weeks old , bought brand new at big box store and google refuses to honor the warranty and replace my phone
i do not not what this POS, i would at least like to get a new phone running Pie
My dad has the exact same phone on the exact same carrier (T-mobile) and has not updated and i don't think he is experiencing most of these issues, probably issues with assistant auto but he never uses it so i can't really say
all i can say is that google engages in criminal behavior , they pulled the same BS with my nexus 6p's , they sold me 2 defective phones and then refused to honor the warranty with 8 months left on the warranty, i called literally hundreds of times and never got anywhere
only years later did i ever get any resolution , $200 from a class action suit for each phone when i paid over $600 for each phone had to wait almost 5 years and only got less than 1/3 of my money back not to mention all the wasted time and aggravation of dealing with these slippery slimy criminals and their games denying me my warranty

nl1010 said:
I use a Pixel 3a XL for some time now. (got also a new replacement phone 1,5 month ago, so fully fresh)
It was working very good and responsive with Android 9, even better with Android 10.
But after the update to Android 11, everything feels much slower, lag in apps, starting apps etc.
I already did a full wipe, factory reset, a few times, but this doesn't help.
How to make the phone (1,5 month old) feels as good as it was with Android 10 again?
I know that I can flash a custom ROM, but if possible I want to keep the original ROM.
Thanks already for the tips and tricks.
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where did you buy your phone? how did you get google to honor the warranty? does your uncle work at Nintendo or something?
i had 3 google phones they refused to honor warranty on every single one of them even tough phones were nearly brand new in mint condition(not that they ever even asked or that ever got far enough along in the process where that would be relevant) with many many months left on the warranty ,

gdroid666 said:
where did you buy your phone? how did you get google to honor the warranty? does your uncle work at Nintendo or something?
i had 3 google phones they refused to honor warranty on every single one of them even tough phones were nearly brand new in mint condition(not that they ever even asked or that ever got far enough along in the process where that would be relevant) with many many months left on the warranty ,
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I bought my phone at Belsimpel in The Netherlands. They imported the Pixel phones, because they are not sold here officially.
After my complaints, they send my phone to Google NL, they replaced my phone without any problem.
Sometime before this Pixel I had a Pixel 2 XL, also with issues, this phone I bought at Saturn in Kleve, Germany, just over the border. I got in contact myself with Google, and I also got a brand new phone without any problem.
So maybe I was lucky...

nl1010 said:
I bought my phone at Belsimpel in The Netherlands. They imported the Pixel phones, because they are not sold here officially.
After my complaints, they send my phone to Google NL, they replaced my phone without any problem.
Sometime before this Pixel I had a Pixel 2 XL, also with issues, this phone I bought at Saturn in Kleve, Germany, just over the border. I got in contact myself with Google, and I also got a brand new phone without any problem.
So maybe I was lucky...
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oh ok ,i am in the US so maybe it's the region that makes the difference
because in the states you have a better chance of hitting the lottery and being struck by lightning on the same day than getting them to honor their warranties

I've noticed that over the past months now, my 3a XL is not performing as it used to. There's definitely more "jank" and stutterings and sputterings that didn't used to be there. Had it since December 2019 and been pleased with it since. But of late it's one thing or the other.
For example, the camera app takes eons to come on, laggy when i switch modes. There's just very noticeable lag in all areas when generally using the phone. A restart helps a bit, before it goes back to laggy-ness.
A bit disappointed at this pure Android device acting this way.

Not noticing much degradation here. Maybe occasional stutter (when say opening Play Store to check for available updates), but I can't remember when it didn't to that.
Even the overnight battery consumption (which was bad for a while, reported by many) has now dropped to around 0.5%/hr after something (?) got updated. I have always chosen to manually set as many apps as practical to Restricted background use. I also don't force close any apps (e.g. Greenify them) unless I suspect they're giving trouble, only Clearing them all from the multitasking pane before I go to sleep. Adaptive battery is on. Stock. Unrooted.

for everyone in here complaining about battery and stuttering issues I would suggest you try loading up MVK kernel
[KERNEL] [Android 12] [v12.9] MVK - Maximum Velocity Kernel
For those familiar with Velocity Rom this is the kernel I build for it. Velocity hasnt been on XDA as a rule so Im sure not many are familiar. Velocity is my personal Rom Ive been building for years and have shared with all that are interested...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Question PUBG mobile and 90 fps, what the heck is this?

Hello,
When OnePlus released their 9 series I bought a OP 9. Right from the beginning it was 100 % clear that 90 fps in PUBGM would be enabled for those who wish to game with high frames. That was also the case. Nevertheless, I am the kind of person (prolly like many of yall ) that kind of switches phones like 5-10 times a year or something. Well, I did a mistake and bought a Redmagic 6R (which got fully refunded thankfully), but I invested in an iPad pro 2021 with the M1-SoC. Both these devices, needless to say, also had 90 fps enabled as an option.
2 weeks ago I bought a Xiaomi 11T Pro, which on paper and everything would seem like a done deal regarding this 90 fps issue. No. It wasnt enabled and there were no workarounds that actually worked (rooting would have solved the case of course). So, I sold it, found a sweet only opened box OP 9 Pro with alot of new, in boxes, accessories for a great price. I was so happy. This phone if any would be the golden standard if you like to be sure to be able to play at 90 fps in PUGBM, right? No. Ive tried everything, OOS12, 11, forcing stable refresh rate via adb (didnt do anything in any app tbh).
Guys, I know this might be a very silly problem, but its quite a deal breaker for me. Im ready to get rid of this phone, especially considering I can make a buck out of the sweet deal I managed to find, but I dont want to. I want to keep it and play PUBG at 90 fps. I do not care about the overheating issues, every Snapdragon 888 device is burning more or less in many type of work loads.
Is there any chance I can enable this game changer of an option or am I doomed to sell it and research the net 24/7 for some bargain deal, maybe ROG 5, Redmagic............ yes I would be willing if the price was "priceless". Lenovo legion duel 2 cant possibly be capped at 60 fps either, I have a hard time imagine at least.
Please help a fellow gamer out if you know anything!

dnsssm said:
Hello,
When OnePlus released their 9 series I bought a OP 9. Right from the beginning it was 100 % clear that 90 fps in PUBGM would be enabled for those who wish to game with high frames. That was also the case. Nevertheless, I am the kind of person (prolly like many of yall ) that kind of switches phones like 5-10 times a year or something. Well, I did a mistake and bought a Redmagic 6R (which got fully refunded thankfully), but I invested in an iPad pro 2021 with the M1-SoC. Both these devices, needless to say, also had 90 fps enabled as an option.
2 weeks ago I bought a Xiaomi 11T Pro, which on paper and everything would seem like a done deal regarding this 90 fps issue. No. It wasnt enabled and there were no workarounds that actually worked (rooting would have solved the case of course). So, I sold it, found a sweet only opened box OP 9 Pro with alot of new, in boxes, accessories for a great price. I was so happy. This phone if any would be the golden standard if you like to be sure to be able to play at 90 fps in PUGBM, right? No. Ive tried everything, OOS12, 11, forcing stable refresh rate via adb (didnt do anything in any app tbh).
Guys, I know this might be a very silly problem, but its quite a deal breaker for me. Im ready to get rid of this phone, especially considering I can make a buck out of the sweet deal I managed to find, but I dont want to. I want to keep it and play PUBG at 90 fps. I do not care about the overheating issues, every Snapdragon 888 device is burning more or less in many type of work loads.
Is there any chance I can enable this game changer of an option or am I doomed to sell it and research the net 24/7 for some bargain deal, maybe ROG 5, Redmagic............ yes I would be willing if the price was "priceless". Lenovo legion duel 2 cant possibly be capped at 60 fps either, I have a hard time imagine at least.
Please help a fellow gamer out if you know anything!
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Bro dw I gotchu.
So I was in the same loop that you're in regarding the 90fps pubg issue. Prior to my current 9 pro, I had an OP 7T. That was actually one of the first Android phone to feature 90fps, and I was ****ing thrilled when only OnePlus devices exclusively for that feature. Felt like a humongous upgrade over the 60. And honestly I got so good at the game (during the initiation of covid) that we had youtube tournaments and room sessions every other day.
Anyway after a while when the 9 series came out I felt like it was the time to upgrade. (not that my 7T gave me a reason to) I was planning on buying the 8 pro at first but somehow I managed to get an unbelievable deal with the stellar black version of the phone, which I instantly availed and got my 9 Pro.
Although this deal was a miracle for me at the time but I never ever thought even for a second before buying, that a flagship phone with a flagship processor would not have the option of 90fps by default. I was honestly devastated upon noticing this and tried many workarounds with zero success.
Corona also started to wear off and the gameplay in 60fps from smooth 90 felt like such a downgrade that I never felt like playing the game anymore after a couple of matches.
Funny thing is that Cod mobile never even got the official support for 90fps in the 9 series. I mean that's just so messed up. My 7T still has the 90fps option by default.
Anyway I left Pubg and Cod completely after a few months as the playing experience just wasn't worth the OP hardware.
Now to the good part
A few months back a man of culture uploaded a simple magisk module which enabled 90fps for both pubg and cod, for the 9 Pro. As I like to root my androids from the very start (currently on OOS11 rooted with custom kernel) I quickly flashed the module to check it out, and voila!
The 90fps option was visible in the game settings. No more workarounds and bull****. Just s simple magisk module and all your worries are gone. I really hope you know what I'm talking about regarding the magisk modules and rooting. You'll find easy rooting methods here on xda.
I probably have that module backed up in my Gdrive, I can provide you with the link if needed. I'm attaching a screenshot of that module as well so you know this isn't bull****
Godspeed my brother! I really hope this helps you or somebody in the future as nobody had a solution in my peak playing days.

khanboy619 said:
Bro dw I gotchu.
So I was in the same loop that you're in regarding the 90fps pubg issue. Prior to my current 9 pro, I had an OP 7T. That was actually one of the first Android phone to feature 90fps, and I was ****ing thrilled when only OnePlus devices exclusively for that feature. Felt like a humongous upgrade over the 60. And honestly I got so good at the game (during the initiation of covid) that we had youtube tournaments and room sessions every other day.
Anyway after a while when the 9 series came out I felt like it was the time to upgrade. (not that my 7T gave me a reason to) I was planning on buying the 8 pro at first but somehow I managed to get an unbelievable deal with the stellar black version of the phone, which I instantly availed and got my 9 Pro.
Although this deal was a miracle for me at the time but I never ever thought even for a second before buying, that a flagship phone with a flagship processor would not have the option of 90fps by default. I was honestly devastated upon noticing this and tried many workarounds with zero success.
Corona also started to wear off and the gameplay in 60fps from smooth 90 felt like such a downgrade that I never felt like playing the game anymore after a couple of matches.
Funny thing is that Cod mobile never even got the official support for 90fps in the 9 series. I mean that's just so messed up. My 7T still has the 90fps option by default.
Anyway I left Pubg and Cod completely after a few months as the playing experience just wasn't worth the OP hardware.
Now to the good part
A few months back a man of culture uploaded a simple magisk module which enabled 90fps for both pubg and cod, for the 9 Pro. As I like to root my androids from the very start (currently on OOS11 rooted with custom kernel) I quickly flashed the module to check it out, and voila!
The 90fps option was visible in the game settings. No more workarounds and bull****. Just s simple magisk module and all your worries are gone. I really hope you know what I'm talking about regarding the magisk modules and rooting. You'll find easy rooting methods here on xda.
I probably have that module backed up in my Gdrive, I can provide you with the link if needed. I'm attaching a screenshot of that module as well so you know this isn't bull****
Godspeed my brother! I really hope this helps you or somebody in the future as nobody had a solution in my peak playing days.
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Thanks for such an extensive and serious reply my man. Appreciate it very much. Yes, I do know everything about Magisk, it's innerworkings, it's current state* due to The Man taking a great leap I fully understand and am positive about even though it changed Magisk quite a bit (tbh Im fully convinced that Magisk would have ended up taking this path anyway, not by choice but you know it's been quite obvious Magisk hide isn't gonna last for a very long time whatever the boss of the project does or does not. I think there isn't even a single reason to question it, he made a great choice and finally got the pay check he deserves, not to mention the great honour and public recognition that his pure talent should get.
*Edit cus it didn't come out the right way, not being cocky lol. Also partly false statements.
Anyway, hide..... Yes, I am very comfortable in rooting this device as I've gone through that process via different ways but mainly Magisk and avoiding TWRP or any of the cousins it has. That particular module you mention I'd say to 99 % certainty is the exact same module and maintainer/dev behind it as I've flashed unto two or three devices. I remember you get alternatives in the terminal when flashing it, like 1-5, depending on game/games etc. Works flawlessly and Tencent are too incompetent, also lazy and spoiled to a degree that actually disgusts me. That's another story, but you're safe from any ban risk with the module flashed for sure.
I've seen that others have picked up the work and forked The Boss's project regarding the Hide option, gonna have a look at that now. Have they or someone been able to reestablish the hide function properly like before? I mean it's not only a big no-no if you can not hide being rooted from Tencent (**** em, I play 95 % of the time New State now and I'm very optimistic and happy to see what they've achieved since release day!). It's crucial for me to be able to use national digital ID app, banking apps and maybe others that shouldn't give a fk but somehow feel like they want or need to (virtue signaling?). Example being McDonalds and other silly ROFLMAO companies afraid of customers that prefer true control over their own, bought and paid for device.

i'm able to get 70-120 fps in pubgm on oos 11 without any additional configurations. I am pretty sure that on oos 11 you can use autohz from play store (paid) to make any app run on 120hz with adb and without root. But if you're on oos 12 you can try this app with the first option, it just applies and doesn't have a confirm button. if the phone overheat or is in low battery mode it will run at or below 60 fps regardless of what settings you've made.

Ive made many posts on here about PuBG Mobile.
Just to let yall know. Im the leader of a big clan, | Protect Positive Squad | ๛pPs๛ |
yall should add me and many can join the clan, we got 20-30 active members and were level 8.
Ive been playing since 2018. Started with Note 4, went to OnePlus 6, Went OnePlus 9.
Email: [email protected]
Char ID: 540685725
Username: iLLuSiVe๛pPs

dnsssm said:
Thanks for such an extensive and serious reply my man. Appreciate it very much. Yes, I do know everything about Magisk, it's innerworkings, it's current state* due to The Man taking a great leap I fully understand and am positive about even though it changed Magisk quite a bit (tbh Im fully convinced that Magisk would have ended up taking this path anyway, not by choice but you know it's been quite obvious Magisk hide isn't gonna last for a very long time whatever the boss of the project does or does not. I think there isn't even a single reason to question it, he made a great choice and finally got the pay check he deserves, not to mention the great honour and public recognition that his pure talent should get.
*Edit cus it didn't come out the right way, not being cocky lol. Also partly false statements.
Anyway, hide..... Yes, I am very comfortable in rooting this device as I've gone through that process via different ways but mainly Magisk and avoiding TWRP or any of the cousins it has. That particular module you mention I'd say to 99 % certainty is the exact same module and maintainer/dev behind it as I've flashed unto two or three devices. I remember you get alternatives in the terminal when flashing it, like 1-5, depending on game/games etc. Works flawlessly and Tencent are too incompetent, also lazy and spoiled to a degree that actually disgusts me. That's another story, but you're safe from any ban risk with the module flashed for sure.
I've seen that others have picked up the work and forked The Boss's project regarding the Hide option, gonna have a look at that now. Have they or someone been able to reestablish the hide function properly like before? I mean it's not only a big no-no if you can not hide being rooted from Tencent (**** em, I play 95 % of the time New State now and I'm very optimistic and happy to see what they've achieved since release day!). It's crucial for me to be able to use national digital ID app, banking apps and maybe others that shouldn't give a fk but somehow feel like they want or need to (virtue signaling?). Example being McDonalds and other silly ROFLMAO companies afraid of customers that prefer true control over their own, bought and paid for device.
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Hahahahaha, the good ol McDonald's reference. That's a good way to put it lol
Don't you be worrying about the masisk hide capabilities. The main guy did leave magisk but I think he left his stuff in good hands. And the fact that he did all of this completely free for the rooting community makes him a living legend tbh.
By the way I have no issues with my safety net, banking apps or the fear of losing my tencent account. I've been using this module for 5-6 months now with no issues.
I did try Tencent's New estate recently when it came out, but was extremely disappointed with the gameplay. There's no official 90fps (ofc I was expecting that) and the general interface is buggy af. It didn't even reach 60 fps most of the time, so I uninstalled it after a few days. I wonder if they clarified some of the bugs and the inconsistent frame rate issues.
Cheers!

khanboy619 said:
Hahahahaha, the good ol McDonald's reference. That's a good way to put it lol
Don't you be worrying about the masisk hide capabilities. The main guy did leave magisk but I think he left his stuff in good hands. And the fact that he did all of this completely free for the rooting community makes him a living legend tbh.
By the way I have no issues with my safety net, banking apps or the fear of losing my tencent account. I've been using this module for 5-6 months now with no issues.
I did try Tencent's New estate recently when it came out, but was extremely disappointed with the gameplay. There's no official 90fps (ofc I was expecting that) and the general interface is buggy af. It didn't even reach 60 fps most of the time, so I uninstalled it after a few days. I wonder if they clarified some of the bugs and the inconsistent frame rate issues.
Cheers!
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Thanks for the reply. Alright, maybe I will try out one of the custom roms. Any suggestions?
I recommend you to revisit New state. They have patched and worked hard in this short time and I really like the game now. 90 fps not available (for me at least ATM, probably its pending to be implemented in the game as a whole soon). I enjoy it more than PUBGM now, but it took quite a few matches of bot lobbys where you roam around like a zombie and get 16 kills without even focusing. Once you reach a higher rank the matches are very enjoying and competetive.

dnsssm said:
Thanks for the reply. Alright, maybe I will try out one of the custom roms. Any suggestions?
I recommend you to revisit New state. They have patched and worked hard in this short time and I really like the game now. 90 fps not available (for me at least ATM, probably its pending to be implemented in the game as a whole soon). I enjoy it more than PUBGM now, but it took quite a few matches of bot lobbys where you roam around like a zombie and get 16 kills without even focusing. Once you reach a higher rank the matches are very enjoying and competetive.
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There are many custom roms out here for the 9 Pro, android 11 and 12. Most of them are very stable according to many users but for me personally, the absence of OOS camera made me stay on OOS11. I've been installing custom roms on my phones since my first android, so the urge to eff everything and just flash the latest android 12 is very real.
Most of the users are very impressed by the daily use experiences of the roms with very minimal bugs.
Paranoid android seems to be the most stable atm with a very pixel like usage experience. I'll let you know if I can gather the courage to ignore the oos cam and just flash it.
Motion graphics smoothing is another major feature which I'll miss alot if I shift to custom.

Screw customs then for now, I just updated to 12. Gonna root.

dnsssm said:
Screw customs then for now, I just updated to 12. Gonna root.
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How's your experience? Any bugs? (Major/minor)
And did u flash global C.40?
Coz I have EU 9 pro and don't want to go through the hasstle of converting my current OS to global and then updating to OOS12.
I just don't know if its stable enough as a daily driver

Still worth it in 2023 ??

Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify ?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you

Get the Note 10+ instead; better specs, more ram and up 1tb expandable storage. The Exynos variants can be rooted but the Snapdragon variants are faster. Excellent build quality and it's a running machine.

6 GB ram and 128 GB memory should be okay for me

nex_t said:
6 GB ram and 128 GB memory should be okay for me
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Never can have too much ram or storage, 256/12gb is the base model. One of the best displays out there. Best display to bezel ratio of anything out there. Very good cams.
Personally I take One UI over Nova; faster, capable, more efficient and very stable.
Only possible deficiency is no 3.5mm jack.
No variable refresh rate and ones with no 5G get very good SOT once optimized. These will run extremely well stock and as such the UI is very customizable.

Excuse me ,I'm not talking about Samsung mobile phones here
You are off topic

nex_t said:
Excuse me ,I'm not talking about Samsung mobile phones here
You are off topic
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Excuse me.
To be concise; I don't think it's worth it.

Okay, thank you

nex_t said:
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify ?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
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Nova works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x after a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery for 2 days long... It's unbeatable in every way.
even with foldables you get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc

xjesus said:
Nova works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x after a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery for 2 days long... It's unbeatable in every way.
even with foldables you get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc
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Nova launcher works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x for 250€ after owning a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery lasts for 2 days... It's unbeatable in every way.
With current foldables you would get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and with mate 20x you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's just like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc. It has dropped several times and no problems so far. Huawei book case is very good for this phone.
Vanced YouTube works as well. FNG gestures works perfect without root.
I can't root or install any different firmware. I thought I was going to miss it from my Xiaomi mi mix, but not so much. I just can't use Titanium backup and can't get rid of all the ads, but I can use dns.adguard.com as a private DNS and it avoids quite some ads.
It's running EMUI 12 and Huawei is still updating its kernel...
Even if I could spend 2000€ in another phone and 20x would cost the same I would choose 20x any time just for the aspect ratio and big unbeatable screen, speakers, robustness and battery optimization.
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nex_t said:
Hello everyone,
I'd really like to buy this phone, I know it's about 4 years old.
I have some questions about the compatibility with different apps.
Does the Nova Launcher works on this ? I don't care about Gestures ....
What about the YouTube Vanced and AoD Notify?
Are there some custom ROMs ?
What are the cons right now, here in Europe ( Germany ) with this mobile phone ?
I do not care about 5G. 4G should be more than enough for me.
Any advices are welcome, thank you
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I still rock mine with long battery life of 7 - 9 days under medium use.
My global phone at one point had Nova launcher but eventually it was uninstalled because Nova eats away at battery. Besides, the phone is faster and snappier without it.
Vanced still works on it which is crazy cool.
For installing custom roms, downgrading to 9.0/9.1 is a necessity. But doing so may render newer apps inoperable. Personally, EMUI 12 is better than any version before it - even though its bootloader is locked and installing custom roms is a no no.
Cons for Germany? I cant say since I'm not in Europe.
The only 2 idiotic annoyances with the phone are: 1) auto brightness is enabled at startup and 2) notifications to update to network time. Although the notifications dont happen a lot theyre still annoying. Had there been none of these issues, the phone would be perfect.
At one point, I was thinking of selling it and buying the Note 20 ultra which can be upgraded to One UI 5.1, a very nice UI upgrade touch. But in the end I found myself keeping my 20x because of its wide aspect ratio (which unfortunately phone makers have abandoned as I'm still scratching my head over that) and bigger screen even though the Note 20 Ultra may have sharper resolution. However, if one day my 20x does become broken I will not buy another 20x. Instead I'll buy the N20U.
If you have more questions let me know.

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Nova launcher works, at least on global version.
I bought a second hand mate 20x for 250€ after owning a Xiaomi mi mix, and it's the best choice for sure. There is no other screen like this. And everything works all right, all the software, cameras, battery lasts for 2 days... It's unbeatable in every way.
With current foldables you would get a smaller video in 16:9 ratio and with mate 20x you always enjoy the full screen.
i have a book case and it's just like a foldable but without the problems of battery, breakable, etc. It has dropped several times and no problems so far. Huawei book case is very good for this phone.
Vanced YouTube works as well. FNG gestures works perfect without root.
I can't root or install any different firmware. I thought I was going to miss it from my Xiaomi mi mix, but not so much. I just can't use Titanium backup and can't get rid of all the ads, but I can use dns.adguard.com as a private DNS and it avoids quite some ads.
It's running EMUI 12 and Huawei is still updating its kernel...
Even if I could spend 2000€ in another phone and 20x would cost the same I would choose 20x any time just for the aspect ratio and big unbeatable screen, speakers, robustness and battery optimization.
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How did you get this update? Mine doesnt have Jan 2023 patch still? (5G version though)

Kernel and Security patch is from 2022, but Mainline software update is now "2023-02-01 Q"

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Kernel and Security patch is from 2022, but Mainline software update is now "2023-02-01 Q"
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Is that for the 5G version?

zlaer said:
Is that for the 5G version?
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No, mine is 4G Global version.

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No, mine is 4G Global version.
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Are you sure? My phone is EVR L29-C636 which is 4G... and the last update was from last year in Jan or Feb of 2022. Do you have the same model?
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Are you sure? My phone is EVR L29-C636 which is 4G... and the last update was from last year in Jan or Feb of 2022. Do you have the same model?
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As I said before, and as you can see in my "Spanish screenshot" above, kernel and security patch from Huawei are from February 2022, and mainline software update (Android update from Google) is from 2023. It's already 2023-02-01
Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know
Android Project Mainline directly updates core OS components with "critical code changes" from Google Play, accelerating Android updates.
www.hexnode.com
My phone is L29

xjesus said:
As I said before, and as you can see in my "Spanish screenshot" above, kernel and security patch from Huawei are from February 2022, and mainline software update (Android update from Google) is from 2023. It's already 2023-02-01
Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know
Android Project Mainline directly updates core OS components with "critical code changes" from Google Play, accelerating Android updates.
www.hexnode.com
My phone is L29
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Appreciate that. I have 2 questions..
1) If you could get the Note 20 Ultra brand new in exchange for the 20x would you exchange it?
2) I keep getting notifications on "network time unavailable" to enable location. How do I disable this annoying notification?

1) Not even a S23 Ultra. Why? Mainly because I'd lose almost 1cm width and 1cm height of screen with the same weight. I'm sure the battery wouldn't last as long, the fingerprint wouldn't work as well, and most probably the UI would be a little faster with 120Hz but again, with a lot of battery drain, I'd miss the 3.5 audio jack and the super speakers from the Mate 20X. I'm not a gamer, but gaming would be something that probably would run faster in the S23 Ultra compared to the Mate 20X. I don't use a Stylus. Phone camera sensors are limited by their size. For the rest I'm sure there is no real gain. Whatsapp, Youtube and Chrome are my main usage of the phone and all I need is the biggest screen and better sound as possible.
2) No clue

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1) Not even a S23 Ultra. Why? Mainly because I'd lose almost 1cm width and 1cm height of screen with the same weight. I'm sure the battery wouldn't last as long,
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Got to say you're wrong about the battery comparison. The s23 ultra"s battery greatly exceeds the one in the 20x by far.

Maybe...
From:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/huawei-mate-20x/battery
https://www.kimovil.com/en/samsung-galaxy-s23-ultra/battery