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[Q] Can the Evo do RFID?

Pretty much what the title says, Does the evo have any RFID capabilities? I've tried searching but haven't unearthed any solid info as to yes or no.
I'm assuming not, but I'd love to be able to read and emulate a few of my rfid enabled pass cards.

No rfid hardware on the evo.

jesus christ are you kidding me!!! rfid?!?!?! wow man, im sorry but im totally against rfid and if people start asking for rfid enabled phones im out of the android scene.
i dont mind being tracked with gps because we know what we're getting into and we can turn it off or leave it at home but man.. wow rfid.. youre nuts. im sorry
no trolling intended :x
putting on my tin foil hat now

manooti said:
jesus christ are you kidding me!!! rfid?!?!?! wow man, im sorry but im totally against rfid and if people start asking for rfid enabled phones im out of the android scene.
i dont mind being tracked with gps because we know what we're getting into and we can turn it off or leave it at home but man.. wow rfid.. youre nuts. im sorry
no trolling intended :x
putting on my tin foil hat now
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*Thanks Iceman thats what I thought, but wanted some confirmation.*
Better make a really big hat then...
Seriously though its coming, having the ability to read a rfid tag on the phone would open up huge possibilities. I know Apple was rumored to have played around with it, and I swear I saw some phones over in japan and possibly in the netherlands that have this.
Now I certainly understand the desire to not have a passive tag on your phone, especially if it stores your info.
But having the option to switch the tag(what info it has stored), and an option to enable or disable it would rock!

i see the pros and cons of rfid but the cons outweigh the pros.
nys was going to be the first with rfid license but from what i remember, dont quote me if im wrong, was that it was taken down because no one accepted it.
i wouldnt be in favor of a true rfid be it in our new passports, licenses, implanted or not. the drivers license was called "real id act".
the rfid brings back a memory from 2001. after 9/11 a family opted in to be the first with the "rfid implants". the mother was on tv and speaking for the family saying how "safe" she feels now being monitored 24/7.
verichip was on cnn years ago and if you google you will find more info on it..
verichip was merged with positive id corp, http://www.positiveidcorp.com/about-us.html
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virginia delegates pass bill banning implants, feb 2010:
http://rawstory.com/2010/02/virginia-passes-law-banning-chip-implants-mark-beast/
rfid chip with cyanide lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmhjffYxspg
verichip implant commercial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hButF_Effn0
im going into hiding now lol.
rfid pffffft

Govmet Came and took ma baby. lol
bust out lead hat (cause tinfoil is for the wanabees) and starts chanting BIG BROTHER!!
but in all seriousness there is no way in hell i want an RFID in my phone
in my dog fine but not my phone

Um, I think the OP was talking about an RFID reader.
I don't want an RFID chip in my phone. I'd love to have an RFID reader though. The non-paranoid among us could use it for inventory control, keeping track of where our keys are (assuming there's signal strength), etc. And the paranoid among us could periodically scan ourselves to see whether Big Brother had slipped a microchip into our nether regions while we slept.

frogomatic said:
Um, I think the OP was talking about an RFID reader.
I don't want an RFID chip in my phone. I'd love to have an RFID reader though. The non-paranoid among us could use it for inventory control, keeping track of where our keys are (assuming there's signal strength), etc. And the paranoid among us could periodically scan ourselves to see whether Big Brother had slipped a microchip into our nether regions while we slept.
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don't you know the nether regions are to obvious they stopped that a long time ago you know those sinus headaches you get. yeah thats right it's behind the eyeball now cause no one would go digging it out from behind the eye (wow i actually sound like a metal hat wearing crazy. i need some soap i have to wash off the redneck back in 20 lol)

im tellin you man.. we gotta head for the hills!!!!
a reader would be cool though, hack that and impersonate anyone

JackDaniels7 said:
Govmet Came and took ma baby. lol
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Gotta love the family guy quote!

manooti said:
im tellin you man.. we gotta head for the hills!!!!
a reader would be cool though, hack that and impersonate anyone
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ok i'm back (note to self steel wool does not help wash off redneck the blood only makes it redder)
but in all seriousness a scanner wouldn't be bad it would be interesting to see whats Rfided. (< to live in a world where thats a word) though i wonder how many crazies it would have running around scanning everyone lol.
hold on sir i cant pay you tell i check to see if the govmet tagged you. What! No I'm not psychotic don't make me chase you tinfoil doesn't stay on real well in a breeze!

anyone willing to get chipped so the devs can have a go at hacking it? lol

Are you kidding PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put active chips and readers in the phones.
Then XDA can hack the hell out of em and we will be getting free cokes and snickers bars at the mall all day long, wave your phone and "some cash machine in bumsville Idaho spits out money all over the ground" muahahahahahaha, just call me ultralazer!
/goodnight.

flyingwolf said:
Are you kidding PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put active chips and readers in the phones.
Then XDA can hack the hell out of em and we will be getting free cokes and snickers bars at the mall all day long, wave your phone and "some cash machine in bumsville Idaho spits out money all over the ground" muahahahahahaha, just call me ultralazer!
/goodnight.
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and then every phone would get a brick chip like the droid x and we would never get to play with our root(<see what i did there ) again

JackDaniels7 said:
and then every phone would get a brick chip like the droid x and we would never get to play with our root(<see what i did there ) again
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Amd then XDA would own the brick chip as well, if it can be made, it can be broken. It just takes time and skill.

flyingwolf said:
Amd then XDA would own the brick chip as well, if it can be made, it can be broken. It just takes time and skill.
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the point is that what was once an open dev community would turn into a media nightmare sure it would be cool for a week then every govmet agency would be on google to lock it down and another fun playground would be forever destroyed

JackDaniels7 said:
the point is that what was once an open dev community would turn into a media nightmare sure it would be cool for a week then every govmet agency would be on google to lock it down and another fun playground would be forever destroyed
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I still belong to MANY forums that were supposedly destroyed, and we thrive just fine, it just takes a little more than googling our names to find us now.

flyingwolf said:
I still belong to MANY forums that were supposedly destroyed, and we thrive just fine, it just takes a little more than googling our names to find us now.
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first of all that doesn't impress me at all most of us here belong to atleast one (dead) forum or somthing. but the point is that should not be how it is. ruining something good and making it so only the people braking the rules get it is messed up

JackDaniels7 said:
first of all that doesn't impress me at all most of us here belong to atleast one (dead) forum or somthing. but the point is that should not be how it is. ruining something good and making it so only the people braking the rules get it is messed up
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I'm not trying to impress you, just stating that "having the guvment" come in is not going to kill the forum.
And the forums and groups I belong to are not dead, just not nearly as well known anymore. And we like that just fine.
As for breaking the rules, um, we do that every single day here, unlocking your phone for use with unapproved roms is breaking the rules. Get used to that.

HTC's Windows Phone 7-equipped T8788 breaks cover for AT&T

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Looks nice. But kinda odd (and not sure I like it) to have a speaker slide out like that.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/exclusive-htcs-windows-phone-7-equipped-t8788-breaks-cover-for/

Yep looks good. Hope all the new HTC Codename phones fall under similar looks/features.
A comment in the engadget forum has 1 guy say he personally knows the phone slides both ways. Hmm.
If it does I Just hope its a nice mechanical/spring slide action that keeps the phone solid when your not sliding it around.
Overall though it would be a bit bigger version of my TP2 which I love.

I like the front facing speaker. Lately I've been playing more Scumm games (Broken Sword 2 atm) on my phone, and sometimes when there's alot of ambient noise, I have to flip my phone around to really hear what's being said without listening intently or put my headphones on. So this would actually be good for gaming, if it slid out the rest of the way to show a game pad I'll be breaking contract .

I'm not too excited about the slide-out speaker feature. As long as a phone has a 3.5mm jack and a decently loud speaker phone, I'm happy. I wouldn't want to go too crazy over builtin speakers.

say hate to state the obvious but this is implementation of the new htc slider mechanism htc patented recently
not bad

I say slide it out the other way to reveal a full qwerty and this thing would be a beast. But sadly it's just a speaker.

This phone DOES NOT slide both ways... for a fact. It slides only that way (as shown in the picture) and only that far... It also has a kickstand that comes out so that when you stand the phone up the speaker is at the top.
All metal (black metal) very heavy and solid feeling... Also, screen size looked to be about 4-4.1"
Saw it/played with it on Sunday night

lets hope for all hd2 owners that this phone has the same hardware specs as the hd2 (easier to port wp7 on hd2 )
and let us all non hd2 owners hope it has a dual core and loads of ram/rom usb3 ,64GB build in ssd .

zanef7 said:
This phone DOES NOT slide both ways... for a fact. It slides only that way (as shown in the picture) and only that far... It also has a kickstand that comes out so that when you stand the phone up the speaker is at the top.
All metal (black metal) very heavy and solid feeling... Also, screen size looked to be about 4-4.1"
Saw it/played with it on Sunday night
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so a media centric phone? how is the slider mechanism and wp7 for that matter. Are these builds still naked without att/htc proprietary software I'm quite curious

domineus said:
so a media centric phone? how is the slider mechanism and wp7 for that matter. Are these builds still naked without att/htc proprietary software I'm quite curious
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That's one thing that's great. The manufacturer and carrier aren't allowed to bog the phones down with crap.

Bengal34 said:
That's one thing that's great. The manufacturer and carrier aren't allowed to bog the phones down with crap.
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has MS stated that?

theomni said:
has MS stated that?
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I believe MS mandated that only 6 custom vendor apps can be sent out with the phone, and anything they put on has to be uninstallable.

gom99 said:
I believe MS mandated that only 6 custom vendor apps can be sent out with the phone, and anything they put on has to be uninstallable.
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Finally...
Now I wish MS would do things to stop being as annoying too.
Btw, I looked over the internet. I couldn't find it. Would you happen to have the link or an official statement from MS stating that?

Meh, to hell with extra bulk from speaker I don't use for anything but ringing.
Never thought I'd say this, but my next phone will most probably not be from HTC. This is such a useless gimmick.

theomni said:
Finally...
Now I wish MS would do things to stop being as annoying too.
Btw, I looked over the internet. I couldn't find it. Would you happen to have the link or an official statement from MS stating that?
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I don't have the direct link but it was originally posted by Da_G on this forum.
OEM Rules

vangrieg said:
Meh, to hell with extra bulk from speaker I don't use for anything but ringing.
Never thought I'd say this, but my next phone will most probably not be from HTC. This is such a useless gimmick.
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I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
They can't do anything to the system, so expect to see a lot of these gimmicks.
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vetvito said:
I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
They can't do anything to the system, so expect to see a lot of these gimmicks.
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They can add apps/hubs.
I know many will disagree with this but we have to go off the basis that the built-in functions of WP7 are much better than anything an OEM could do. We shouldn't want/allow them to change it just for the sake of differentiation. It's my impression (not having used any of them for any length of time) that this is true on Android for all with the possible exception of HTC Sense; even then many would say the stock Android UI is just fine. HTC Sense, espeically for WinMo, is horribly written. I think it's wise for us to let the software company do the software and the hardware company do the hardware.
So even though they can't modify for the sake of modifying, there's a good bit of opportunity for them to add on. HTC will be doing some sort of 'Sense' for WP7 which will (just guessing) probably be in the form of a hub with several apps such as weather, stocks, footprints, etc. Carriers will have branding opportunities as well (Telstra showed off theirs recently).
But this all still ignoring the question of do users really care? I have never once seen the home screen addons become a deciding factor in what phone a user purchases (both in 'real life' and on a non-phone forum where phones often come up that I'm on). It's always just:
1. carrier
2. hardware features (size, keyboard, screen being the main ones)
3. Price
It really seems like wasted money on the part of the OEMs.

vetvito said:
I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
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How about making great devices without this niche teenager crap?

for a pop out speaker, I would have high expectations for the sound on that. It better be very impressive and with plenty of bass.....

RustyGrom said:
Looks nice. But kinda odd (and not sure I like it) to have a speaker slide out like that.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/exclusive-htcs-windows-phone-7-equipped-t8788-breaks-cover-for/
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well to tell you the truth, this isn't the first time that we are seeing the device with speaker slideout. For instance, Samsung mp3 players had this. they were k5 and s5. It wasn't a really hit for somereason but yea on the phone, this is the first time ever. But i do like the formfactor but i am not sure about sliding speaker. I dont listen to musics with my phone, so it won't be necessary for me. Also i would like to see how the battery performs when the slide is out to the side. hmmm... it should be great for speaker call and gps sysem!

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Does anybody have one? What are your thoughts? Does it work well with the Evo?

i read some feedback from people in europe who have them already as well as people who bought from europe and had em shipped here (wasn't on this forum) and unfortunately all the feedback was negative..people said the device has all kinds of issues right now with not staying paired with bluetooth and other random stuff...
kind of a bummer because i really wanted one until i read the reviews...hopefully they make it better with future updates and hopefully when they do that they'll release it in the US...the device looks like it has so much potential, would be a shame if it went to waste..

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i read some feedback from people in europe who have them already as well as people who bought from europe and had em shipped here (wasn't on this forum) and unfortunately all the feedback was negative..people said the device has all kinds of issues right now with not staying paired with bluetooth and other random stuff...
kind of a bummer because i really wanted one until i read the reviews...hopefully they make it better with future updates and hopefully when they do that they'll release it in the US...the device looks like it has so much potential, would be a shame if it went to waste..
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I have the device, and although it has a lot of potential, SE f*cked up. Connections are unstable and without a stable connection the device is useless. The firmware can't be updated, so thats, that.

the firmware can't be updated? are u sure?
that blows! gg SE

I've got one now boxed up and ready to go back. Problems... won't stay paired, locks up, battery only last a day, not a true touch screen, no built in clock, easily falls off wrist band, not firmwear updateable....
Great idea, terrible implementation
I also have their older traditional bluetooth watch which is solid as a rock and looks "normal".

i heard an update was suppose to come out in january.. any better after the update?

I did the latest firmware update and I would say that 90% of problems are fixed. My device stays connected and now has up to 30plugins instead of just 5 - lol!
It is my daily watch and it really inst sensitive to water as i have accidentally done dishes with it on!
It is very useful for business or prosumer crowd. People who get a lot of emails, calls, etc but do not want to be rude and constantly having a hand on the phone or Bluetooth in their ear.
Go for it, best watch for the money IMO!

Hi, just got one, charging it now - can you tell me best apps?
cheers.

Childofthehorn said:
I did the latest firmware update and I would say that 90% of problems are fixed. My device stays connected and now has up to 30plugins instead of just 5 - lol!
It is my daily watch and it really inst sensitive to water as i have accidentally done dishes with it on!
It is very useful for business or prosumer crowd. People who get a lot of emails, calls, etc but do not want to be rude and constantly having a hand on the phone or Bluetooth in their ear.
Go for it, best watch for the money IMO!
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If you don't mind my asking, what did you pay for it and where did you get it?

hello, I don't know if you're asking me or "child of the..." but £39.99 from play.com

Childofthehorn said:
I did the latest firmware update and I would say that 90% of problems are fixed. My device stays connected and now has up to 30plugins instead of just 5 - lol!
It is my daily watch and it really inst sensitive to water as i have accidentally done dishes with it on!
It is very useful for business or prosumer crowd. People who get a lot of emails, calls, etc but do not want to be rude and constantly having a hand on the phone or Bluetooth in their ear.
Go for it, best watch for the money IMO!
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awesome, thanks for the info .. think i'm gonna go ahead and order one

Question, for the people that have this. what ROM are you using? i'm using it with mikFroyo v4.6 and i have a hard time keeping the bluetooth connection going. i have to constantly turn off bluetooth and turn it back on. I already removed liveview manager which caused other problems, and i did update the liveview to the latest version.
thanks

ednote said:
Question, for the people that have this. what ROM are you using? i'm using it with mikFroyo v4.6 and i have a hard time keeping the bluetooth connection going. i have to constantly turn off bluetooth and turn it back on. I already removed liveview manager which caused other problems, and i did update the liveview to the latest version.
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Same issue even after the update on CM7. So I don't use it much

It looks cool but I would rather just mess with my phone instead. I think it would be just as rude to be checking your watch every so often as it would be to check your phone......just saying

Genuinely pissed off with sony
So TODAY. I pop the watch off of the band like normal and a PIECE OF PLASTIC popped clean off. I calmly explained and sent several pictures of what it was. there is no other damage (not even scratches) to the Device. I explain how it is a cleave in the plastic because it was not properly tempered and mixed, just something that happens because of factory defects. I also explain a bit of how I know this and some good common examples.
Here is the picture that shows the damage the best:
Now companies like HTC, Motorola, and Apple recognize mechanical defects and fix them. If this was purposeful damage, more would be damaged and something would be every scratched instead of a piece of plastic with a clean cleave.
This is the quoted response from Sony-Ericsson:
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This "damage" is a materials defect. Honestly I cannot wait to hear how they justify this and sent them another email. 3 months of use popping it on and off to charge only. Screw Sony at this point. The whole Geohot thing, their lawsuits have been everywhere, phones come out a year or two too late, have terrible software support, and quality has gone extremely wayside. Sorry, just when you think they are going to do something worthy of the Sony from 20 years ago you quickly find out that it is the same cheap Chinese crap with a japanese label they switched to 18 years ago.

Maybe we should all fill out their survey. Even though a couple XDA members are working on fixes, I'm still PO'd about the display and battery in my MBW-150 and SE's refusal to repair or even provide part numbers.

Just a toy
I brought it from ebay just for $20 bucks only. It is not a good practice since you will find at least 5 defectives after using it for 2 hours.
However, it is a good try and I believe a real smart watch is coming very soon later this year.

This thing is awesome! And sony just opened up dev. And a solar watch strap will keep it running forever.

Best fitness band as an alarm?

I'm looking for a fitness band which I'm primarily going to use as an silent alarm and secondary to track my steps. It should also be able to sync with Android.
I've heard that some fitness bands are really bad at waking one up as the vibration is too weak, thus I'm looking for some recommendations on fitness bands that does a great job waking one up!
Thanks!

QNBT said:
I'm looking for a fitness band which I'm primarily going to use as an silent alarm and secondary to track my steps. It should also be able to sync with Android.
I've heard that some fitness bands are really bad at waking one up as the vibration is too weak, thus I'm looking for some recommendations on fitness bands that does a great job waking one up!
Thanks!
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I don't know if it's the "BEST" but I have some runner friends who have FitBits and I've heard them talking about this before. I didn't pay close attention to hear which fitness band they said was a weak alarm, but I know they've said the FitBit works well as an alarm. I don't know if you're close to a store that has these things to try on, but if you are, ask the associate if you can try them out and feel which is the most jolting.

bayermunich said:
I don't know if it's the "BEST" but I have some runner friends who have FitBits and I've heard them talking about this before. I didn't pay close attention to hear which fitness band they said was a weak alarm, but I know they've said the FitBit works well as an alarm. I don't know if you're close to a store that has these things to try on, but if you are, ask the associate if you can try them out and feel which is the most jolting.
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Thanks for your input!
The thing is, I would probably have to fall asleep with one to actually know if it could easily wake me up from the vibration. That's why I thought it would help asking people who might be experienced with one.

QNBT said:
Thanks for your input!
The thing is, I would probably have to fall asleep with one to actually know if it could easily wake me up from the vibration. That's why I thought it would help asking people who might be experienced with one.
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Yeah I hear you. Trying them on in a store is one thing but napping on the couch is another matter altogether. I even tried to do a bit of searching on google for this but came up short. Best bet might be to check some running blogs or the one particular reviewer I always used to recommend to people:
dcrainmaker.com

bayermunich said:
Yeah I hear you. Trying them on in a store is one thing but napping on the couch is another matter altogether. I even tried to do a bit of searching on google for this but came up short. Best bet might be to check some running blogs or the one particular reviewer I always used to recommend to people:
dcrainmaker.com
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Thanks, I'll check it out!

QNBT said:
Thanks for your input!
The thing is, I would probably have to fall asleep with one to actually know if it could easily wake me up from the vibration. That's why I thought it would help asking people who might be experienced with one.
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Note that you don't necessarily have to get the fitbit force or the fitbit flex to use as an alarm. The fitbit one also comes with a wrist strap for night time use. In fact, I would recommend getting the fitbit one instead of the strap versions unless if you specifically want a strap version because both the Force and Flex are known to have issues.

snapper.fishes said:
Note that you don't necessarily have to get the fitbit force or the fitbit flex to use as an alarm. The fitbit one also comes with a wrist strap for night time use. In fact, I would recommend getting the fitbit one instead of the strap versions unless if you specifically want a strap version because both the Force and Flex are known to have issues.
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Thanks for the heads up! I specifically want a strap because of its convenience, maybe I should stay out of fitbit then? I'm leaning towards Jawbone as of now, still undecided. If anyone have a suggestion of another forum created for outdoors people, feel free to share them.
Edit: so I orded the Jawbone Up24, gonna pick it up tomorrow and see if it will work.

@QNBT
Hi I'm curious about this as well, my gf is traumatized by my alarm clock and I wanted to try out some silent alarms. Can you share your experience with the jawbone? Was looking at the zband but I'm having second thoughts..

Xaeons said:
@QNBT
Hi I'm curious about this as well, my gf is traumatized by my alarm clock and I wanted to try out some silent alarms. Can you share your experience with the jawbone? Was looking at the zband but I'm having second thoughts..
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If you're ONLY going to use it as an alarm clock/sleep tracker, then you should consider this product. You're able to check your infographics on the app easily and they're summarized pretty neatly. You can also opt for a weekly recap which will be sent to your inbox (see attached image).
With the new software update you're able to get "up to 14 days" battery. Since I kinda only used it for sleep tracking/alarm it does surpass at least 10 days. I've only used it for about 2 weeks myself, and I recharged it before the battery went out, thus I'm not able to confirm 14 days of usage without recharge. I still think 10 - 12 days is good, previously the battery was marketed as only lasting 7 days (again, not able to confirm as I updated my device on the second day), it takes really really fast to recharge anyways.
However, a lot of things outside that scope is broken. Reminder alarms (used for bedtime reminder etc.) will still go off if you go to bed earlier, even with "sleep mode" (sleep tracking mode) set to on, which is kinda ironic as it will wake you up instead. The step counter out of the box is insanely inaccurate, it even counts your steps when you're asleep, sometimes I got over 300 steps after waking up. You are able to calibrate it, but since I don't care too much for it I haven't done that yet. As for food tracking, according to the forum people seem to think it lacks functionalities, or maybe they're just greedy (haven't used this function at all).
People have also been asking for vibration(patterns) upon receiving notifications for over a year. While the forum admin has responded that it was a "great idea" (paraphrased), there has been no more news on that.
To recap, great battery life, work great as an alarm/sleep tracker, the rest of its feature is "ok".
You can check out other screenshots on their website, but since they don't show off the weekly recap I though I'd include a screenshot of it:
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Thank you for your prompt reply. Indeed I only intend to use it as a silent alarm clock. Another question though, would you say you are a deep sleeper? How strong is the vibration and is it able to wake you up gently as opposed to abruptly?

Xaeons said:
Thank you for your prompt reply. Indeed I only intend to use it as a silent alarm clock. Another question though, would you say you are a deep sleeper? How strong is the vibration and is it able to wake you up gently as opposed to abruptly?
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I'm no longer deep sleeper now that I'm omw of reverting my sleeping routines to normal hours. During the course of using this product I've been woken during times when I'm about to wake up and during snoozes (those times when I wake up before the alarm). I'd say it wakes you up pretty gently, the vibration isn't too strong but it won't stop vibrating unless you press the button.

Forget Energy ring! LED hole punch Notification Light FINALLY a true program!!!!

Check my thread here!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s1...tion-light-t3920456/post79313900#post79313900
Forget Energy ring

Nah I wouldn't don't touch anything remotely related to Chainfire.
Let Samsung implement it.

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Nah I wouldn't don't touch anything remotely related to Chainfire.
Let Samsung implement it.
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Works the bomb, has battery optimization options as well... Sorry you don't like his work... I love this. Don't think Sammy is gonna come out with it at this point. They have been talking out of their A S S since the S10 came out about this option... Maybe in a long long time....

Holey light is the best one from chainfire he's a grate developer and a asset to xda community, its plain and simple with minimal drain unlike others , support his grate work !!
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I think it's comparing two different things, despite the boombastic title of this thread. Why forget Energy Ring? It is a battery indicator, if you need that better not forget that app. Chainfires app is very advanced and well developed, but serves a different purpose, it reacts to apps notifications that try to trigger the LED.

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Holey light is the best one from chainfire he's a grate developer and a asset to xda community, its plain and simple with minimal drain unlike others , support his grate work !!
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He's an asset but not to any community, you shouldn't think he does this for pure boredom or internet appreciation, he's hasn't always been very transparent about his apps.
Besides that problem, the app itself has limited functions and everyone who tested it reported noticeable drain.
Samsung should implement it because they have full access to the system and their solution shouldn't need hacks(like faking the lock screen) to work, it seems stupid for them to waste the chance of using the cutout for notifications after teasing it for so long.

I agree they should implement notifications but will they? , edge lighting notifications already present not that it works like
Battery drain ? Doesn't even register any on mine
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I agree they should implement notifications but will they? , edge lighting notifications already present not that it works like
Battery drain ? Doesn't even register any on mine View attachment 4740855
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Same here. I think we have a troll LOL

Corv0 said:
He's an asset but not to any community, you shouldn't think he does this for pure boredom or internet appreciation, he's hasn't always been very transparent about his apps.
Besides that problem, the app itself has limited functions and everyone who tested it reported noticeable drain.
Samsung should implement it because they have full access to the system and their solution shouldn't need hacks(like faking the lock screen) to work, it seems stupid for them to waste the chance of using the cutout for notifications after teasing it for so long.
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BOOOO, @Chainfire has made more strides and implications than you obviously know. He's made things possible over the years that NO ONE can do! You speak your mind that's the 5th amendment, but you arare TROLLING BS. Sorry sad but true. You dont want to utilize his implementations and knowledge cause he's "bored or not transparent" LMFAO, that's your prerogative, there is NO battery drain and since your SO Obsessed with that of course you haven't even tried it. BTW the implementation of the lockscreen and AOD function perfectly... Samsung sucked the bag on this and you shun upon @Chainfire. Lol have fun optimizing and not utilizing the true battery life of this phone disabling all these common features. that make this device great and I I will not even consider or respond to your silly posts lol:laugh: bye bye

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BOOOO, @Chainfire has made more strides and implications than you obviously know. He's made things possible over the years that NO ONE can do! You speak your mind that's the 5th amendment, but you arare TROLLING BS. Sorry sad but true. You dont want to utilize his implementations and knowledge cause he's "bored or not transparent" LMFAO, that's your prerogative, there is NO battery drain and since your SO Obsessed with that of course you haven't even tried it. BTW the implementation of the lockscreen and AOD function perfectly... Samsung sucked the bag on this and you shun upon @Chainfire. Lol have fun optimizing and not utilizing the true battery life of this phone disabling all these common features. that make this device great and I I will not even consider or respond to your silly posts lol:laugh: bye bye
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I read ridiculously stupid posts almost every day on XDA but yours is by far the dumbest wall of text coming from a senselessly triggered unrelated person I've ever seen.
You even brought some followers with you to like your comment, very nice but that's just silly.
I personally couldn't care less about Chainfire or his work and I have no reason to hate him either, simply no reasons for me to lick arses around like you just did.
@topjohnwu is both a better Dev and a more honest member, if you really want to worship anyone then he's the first man to deserve that.
And no, the guide doesn't involve disabling any "common features", whatever you meant with that, it's all about introducing common sense in power management, every paragraph is optional and unrelated to the other, it doesn't involve root or damage to the device in any way.

Hold your horses ppl, i think both Chainfire and topjohnwu are great members of this community.
There is absolutely no reason to pick one over another.
I simply do not allow bashing or downplaying any of them!
So please play nice shall we?! :good:
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Corv0 said:
I personally couldn't care less about Chainfire or his work
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So ignore this thread and carry on then. There's no need to post stupid shit like:
Nah I wouldn't don't touch anything remotely related to Chainfire.
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If you want to troll, go do it on Reddit or 4Chan.

Thank you both! I'm sorry if I offended you guys. I have deepest respect for all. Being flamed is not cool... I feel like I was being flamed or trolled as well as others.... This is a place where I RESPECT people's input and learn and give any knowledge I have. Not to be offended by anyone. Sorry if this was posted elsewhere.. PEACE to all

No need for duplicate threads.
Please continue with your discussion in the original thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s1...tion-light-t3920456/post79313900#post79313900
Thread closed.

Corv0 said:
And you are related to this how?
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I'm an S10+ owner. I use these particular forums every day as an S10+ owner. And also as a user of the app mentioned in the OP.
And also as a moderator of the forums.
That's how it's related to me.
OP just got excited about coming across the app, and wanted to point it out to others. This thread did no harm. While comments like yours do.

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And you are related to this how?
I'd say you can continue moderating your own Reddit or 4Chan threads, you're clearly not doing your job here.
There's already a topic on this in Themes, Apps and Mods, no reason for this thread here to exist, even worse now that it's filled of rude triggered comments, Chainfire fanboys and "stupid ****" like your unnecessary intervention, pathetic.
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Brah, do you even XDA?!?
Since you're new to XDA, I'll enlighten your wanna be trollness.
Every Admin, Moderator, Staff "are related to all things on XDA".
GOOD TO GO!