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Coming from an HTC m8 vzw variant to the LG G4 vzw variant, I am sorry to see so little dev'ing being done for the G4.
Big Red sure has made it damned difficult I guess.
https://www.unlockbase.com/
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spyknee said:
Coming from an HTC m8 vzw variant to the LG G4 vzw variant, I am sorry to see so little dev'ing being done for the G4.
Big Red sure has made it damned difficult I guess.
https://www.unlockbase.com/
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Hard to do much dev'ing with a locked bootloader, lol.
The unlocked international models have some dev'ing done with them, but not much has been done besides some custom kernels and a Cynogenmod build.
Full root access and xposed on the Verizon model has provided enough customization for my liking for the time being though.
Lol good try on advertisement, however this phone is factory unlocked. Plus bootloader unlock =/= SIM unlock.
spyknee said:
Coming from an HTC m8 vzw variant to the LG G4 vzw variant, I am sorry to see so little dev'ing being done for the G4.
Big Red sure has made it damned difficult I guess.
https://www.unlockbase.com/
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First thought is for you to read the Forum Rules on posting, moved out of the Development section to here.
eigen said:
Lol good try on advertisement, however this phone is factory unlocked. Plus bootloader unlock =/= SIM unlock.
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not meant to be a plug. I was just wondering because so many G4 peeps are not unlocked. I just purchased a Verizon certified G4/13B, its locked.
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/verizon-unlocking-guide
Again wanting to know. That's all. I'm strictly an end user.
Are these things BS.
spyknee said:
not meant to be a plug. I was just wondering because so many G4 peeps are not unlocked. I just purchased a Verizon certified G4/13B, its locked.
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/verizon-unlocking-guide
Again wanting to know. That's all. I'm strictly an end user.
Are these things BS.
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The Verizon G4 is SIM unlocked already, you don't need to pay to get it unlocked. Just pop in another SIM, edit the APN settings, and off you go. SIM unlocking is different from bootloader unlocking which is why there is very little dev support.
If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it so that I can unlock the bootloader? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
mackentosh said:
If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
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I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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That is true I am also using the Verizon variante on TMobile but what I'm saying is my TMobile OnePlus 6t came with a greyed out OEM Unlock option. So I called TMobile and told them I want the phone unlocked and they did it. I just had to factory reset the phone and the option was no longer greyed out. So I'm wondering why can't Verizon do the same for the Pixel? I mean I do own the phone out right no finance.
Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
I'm in the same boat but to be honest the whole point of a pixel in my opinion is to get a pure Google experience.. I don't have a valid reason to root to be honest. Also my work apps won't work on a rooted phone so might as well be bootloader locked
As I'm in Ireland and bought the 3xl while on a work trip on launch day I'm tempted to see if Verizon might unlock it for me.. really it's not making much difference to me
mackentosh said:
That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
shawn605 said:
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Your bootloader or your sims card,?
Homeboy76 said:
Your bootloader or your sims card,?
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He's talking about the SIM card.
VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork... More like they hate people hacking their apps and loosing money.
Last unlocked BL they sold was Nexus 6... Correct me, cuz I did zero research on this... Just my cloudy damaged memory
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He's talking about the SIM card.
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Thread: Pixel 3 XL Questions and Answers...
Question: Will Verizon unlock the Pixel?
I thought that's what he meant, I asked for clarification.
As for the bootloader, no they will not. I just moved to Pixel 3 XL after getting an OG Verizon PIxel XL right after launch (actually immediately after the dePixel exploit was published or I would have purchased direct from Google or chose another phone). This same discussion along with the same "it's not fair since I own the device" arguments has been going on for years. Look at Huawei for evidence that bootloader locking is becoming more restrictive and not less. You can only purchase the device outright, and even they have discontinued the bootloader code request system. Eventually an exploit might come around, but maybe it won't. jcase pretty much said the original dePixel find was an accident, and it took another year and a half or so to find another for a phone that was already being replaced. Either take a risk that one will be found knowing that it might never come, or bite the bullet and buy a Google version or a 6T (where even if you get it at full price from T-Mobile you might have to wait to get BL and carrier unlock).
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VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork...
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
andy214 said:
Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Easy answer. They don't care about consumer opinion until results are felt. They are concerned with brand, lawsuits , and corporate spending. Look at it this way, this thread was last posted on (by me) over a year ago, and there hasn't even been a sniff of an exploit or getting Big Red to change even once.
Once, a long time ago, Verizon carried bootloader unlockable phones. My Nexus 6 was from Verizon and it was fantastic. Google made a marketing decision for Verizon to push the Pixel OG exclusively, Verizon forced them to make a varient that could be locked down and full of Verizon crapware, just like every phone on their network. OG, 2, 3 and now 4, sold by Verizon will never get natively unlocked. The only hope would be a temp root solution and being able to toggle the unlock in developers options.
6 years ago unlocked "dev" phones weren't readily available, but Google sells an unlockable version now, with financing if you want, most people that want root just buy that.
mackentosh said:
When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
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Yea sell that for sure. I bought a new unlocked P3XL for 400.00 on Amazon last month.
First to mention my long time S5 is in hardware failure , this confirmed after flashing a stock rom and camera stops working and signal keeps dropping.
Should I upgrade to the S20 or S20ultra? I've read that I can pay for a service to have bootloader unlocked, and it can be rooted?
How is Verizon 5G vs say T-mobile?
I have no interest in the S21 because it doesn't have expandable storage.
It is your preference whether you want the regular S20, or the giant Ultra. What I hate about USA is that, their carriers demand locked bootloader. Therefore, they forbid people from enjoying the super powers of Android.
The phone can be unlocked & rooted. There's some ROMs available, too.
As for the 5G, Verizon was the king when the S20 came out, thanks to its millimetre-wave 5G. Today may be a different story.
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It is your preference whether you want the regular S20, or the giant Ultra. What I hate about USA is that, their carriers demand locked bootloader. Therefore, they forbid people from enjoying the super powers of Android.
The phone can be unlocked & rooted. There's some ROMs available, too.
As for the 5G, Verizon was the king when the S20 came out, thanks to its millimetre-wave 5G. Today may be a different story.
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I know about the locked bootloaders theres a paid service I can use to unlock it. I think i'm going with the S20 plus. This morning my phone finally got stuck in permeant boot loop wont boot any roms after it was pretty much fine for about a week.
I'm trying to decide between Factory Unlocked vs TM subsidized. In general, does TM allow the BL to be unlocked? I know in the past they allowed my OnePlus 7 to be unlocked.
Nope. You will wait forever
There is never a downside to buying an Unlocked device
So is it completely locked out or after you pay in full it can be unlocked?
They do after it's paid off. I went through this on my Oneplus 6t, it wasn't too bad. If you got the unlocked version like I did, unless Goggle did something unexpected with their chip, you should be able to unlock it in fastboot with OEM unlock.
I have the Oneplus 7 Pro and told TMO I needed the sim unlocked because I was going overseas for buisness for 6 months. Granted it took me a little bit between messaging them through the app and their social media, but eventually got it done. Then within 2 days of having the device I had a fully unlocked 7 Pro.
I bit the bullet and ordered thru T-Mobile, mainly because Google's ship date is so far out now (like next year far). I anticipate a process as painful as the one I went thru with my OnePlus 6T back in the day.... but it works out.
Thanks everyone.
Pretty simple logic here, If You Pay it Off The Day You Receive it You Can Unlock The Bootloader. When it's yours 100% Free and Clear of an EIP your Golden
Lots of responses but I'm not sure if the OP's question has been answered. Will t-mobile allow the bootloader to be unlocked if the device has been paid off in full and subsequently unlocked?
dj24 said:
Lots of responses but I'm not sure if the OP's question has been answered. Will t-mobile allow the bootloader to be unlocked if the device has been paid off in full and subsequently unlocked?
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@slingblade01
I haven't B/L unlocked a Google/T-Mobile device since the Motorola Nexus 6 & TBH,I can't remember if I got it SIM Unlocked before B/L unlocking.
At any rate,IIRC,one doesn't necessarily have a thing to do w/the other. Of course,YMMV depending on the make/mfg of the phone.
No one really knows until devices start landing in the hands of the developer community. Anything beforehand is speculation,especially since this is a new SOC we're dealing with here.
dj24 said:
Lots of responses but I'm not sure if the OP's question has been answered. Will t-mobile allow the bootloader to be unlocked if the device has been paid off in full and subsequently unlocked?
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It has been answered, in many different ways by different people...
Aslong as Google allows the phone to be unlocked the TMO variant should allow it. And as I stated before, I had my Oneplus 7 Pro unlocked on the 2nd day I had it, WAY before it was even paid off.
Are you even reading the comments?
The answer is yes
When the Pixel 4XL came out, it took me (6) Returns and on the 7th, i got the right Rep on the phone, who whitelisted my Pixel before i even took it out the box.
I just ordered and i'm impatiently waiting for my Raven to arrive....
DR4LUC0N said:
It has been answered, in many different ways by different people...
Aslong as Google allows the phone to be unlocked the TMO variant should allow it. And as I stated before, I had my Oneplus 7 Pro unlocked on the 2nd day I had it, WAY before it was even paid off.
Are you even reading the comments?
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How did you get your phone unlocked that early? When I had my 7T Pro McLaren they were willing to do it once I told them it was for root, but for my 6 Pro they're expecting me to pay the full thing off in accordance with policy. I really don't have $750 to pay my phone off early.
Yes, TMobile allows the bootloader to be unlocked but only after the device is fully paid off and sim unlocked.
Otherwise the setting is greyed out in the menu.
Vortextuality said:
How did you get your phone unlocked that early? When I had my 7T Pro McLaren they were willing to do it once I told them it was for root, but for my 6 Pro they're expecting me to pay the full thing off in accordance with policy. I really don't have $750 to pay my phone off early.
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Some of us have used the chat agents to have them unlock the sim, which yields the ability to unlock bootloader. I was able to do this a few weeks ago. I just said I was offered a job overseas. I said I was keeping my account active but wanted to use the pixel while overseas. They unlocked the sim no question asked. Sometimes it is a matter of finding the willing agent.
Btw, I am on an EIP.
Best wishes.
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Some of us have used the chat agents to have them unlock the sim, which yields the ability to unlock bootloader. I was able to do this a few weeks ago. I just said I was offered a job overseas. I said I was keeping my account active but wanted to use the pixel while overseas. They unlocked the sim no question asked. Sometimes it is a matter of finding the willing agent.
Btw, I am on an EIP.
Best wishes.
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Did you do it through the TMo app or through T Force on Twitter?
Vortextuality said:
Did you do it through the TMo app or through T Force on Twitter?
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I used Facebook Messenger. Took about a hour. The agents, supposedly, work multiple chats simultaneously. I've read both the app and Twitter worked as well.
phaino00 said:
I used Facebook Messenger. Took about a hour. The agents, supposedly, work multiple chats simultaneously. I've read both the app and Twitter worked as well.
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Is your phone paid off?
I bought a Verizon locked Pixel 6 pro on Craigslist. Anyone knows what happens if I flash stock unlocked image? Or know if it can be unlocked?
hotboyray said:
I bought a Verizon locked Pixel 6 pro on Craigslist. Anyone knows what happens if I flash stock unlocked image? Or know if it can be unlocked?
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Nothing will change. The only difference in the images is the modem software.
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Nothing will change. The only difference in the images is the modem software.
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My understanding is the lock is only a software lock.
hotboyray said:
My understanding is the lock is only a software lock.
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The Verizon pixels run different software. Just wondering if anyone tried already. I know you can flash certain Samsung phones with stock unlocked rom and it carrier unlocks the phone
Verizon may help you unlock the phone to use on another carrier, if the phone was fully paid off and you have an account in good standing. Try giving them a call and speak with tech support.
However, phones that originated on the Verizon network will never have their bootloader unlocked. They have a different bootloader and signature, regardless of whether you change the carrier.
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Verizon may help you unlock the phone to use on another carrier, if the phone was fully paid off and you have an account in good standing. Try giving them a call and speak with tech support.
However, phones that originated on the Verizon network will never have their bootloader unlocked. They have a different bootloader and signature, regardless of whether you change the carrier.
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So Verizon pixel can't get bootloader unlocked?
hotboyray said:
So Verizon pixel can't get bootloader unlocked?
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Correct. That's been the case for every Pixel to date from the OG through today. I'd be surprised if Verizon ever changes their policy.
Would you please just stop. Yes, it can be done, you just don't have a clue on how to do it.
BrainStormCEO said:
Would you please just stop. Yes, it can be done, you just don't have a clue on how to do it.
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Nor do many generations of android developers i guess
Android Flash Tool
flash.android.com
You could use this tool to unlock bootloader. But I'm not sure if it's gonna work or not.
BrainStormCEO said:
Would you please just stop. Yes, it can be done, you just don't have a clue on how to do it.
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Enlighten us?
Yes, tell you how to do it on a forum so Verizon can then fix it. Really smart.
I'm in no need of money. Just sick of amateurs acting like this, and that is impossible. I've hacked every pixel released. They're all hackable through the sim.
BrainStormCEO said:
I'm in no need of money. Just sick of amateurs acting like this, and that is impossible. I've hacked every pixel released. They're all hackable through the sim.
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Claims like this without proof are meaningless.
All that guy does is brag on a bunch of posts that he's able to unlock bootloader on all the pixels and tells everyone else they're stupid. Has never given proof that he's able to. Just ignore or block him.
Plus we don't want to use vulnerabilities to unlock those get patched or open you up for attack. I'm with the others, your SIM method is not the way to go
What if you just want to tether a Verizon Pixel 3.Anyway to do it if you have AT&T unlimited data.I ask this because no root and unlock bootloader method I believe.
AtrixHDMan said:
What if you just want to tether a Verizon Pixel 3.Anyway to do it if you have AT&T unlimited data.I ask this because no root and unlock bootloader method I believe.
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Not really the place to discuss this as this is a subforum for the pixel 6 pro. That said boastful people aside, no if it's the verizon version of the 3 then it cannot be bootloader unlocked even if it's on a different network now.
Nergal di Cuthah said:
Not really the place to discuss this as this is a subforum for the pixel 6 pro. That said boastful people aside, no if it's the verizon version of the 3 then it cannot be bootloader unlocked even if it's on a different network now.
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Thanks
BrainStormCEO said:
Would you please just stop. Yes, it can be done, you just don't have a clue on how to do it.
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Verizon's bootloaders have been locked for years and years, and there's a great reason no reputable devs are continuing to work on unlocking them, it is not possible.
Unless you're prepared to share exactly how it to unlock a Verizon device's bootloader, and not just "talk" about it, please stop posting misinformation about it being possible.
This thread is about "carrier" unlocking a Verizon device, not unlocking the bootloader.
Please open a GENERAL thread about your opinion on the bootloader being unlockable.