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Galaxy Nexus is likely to come at $299.99 with contract on Verizon Networks in United States, says WSJ. Verizon is charging same contract pricing for other high-end smartphones like Motorola Droid RAZR, HTC Rezound and 32GB iPhone. Verizon thinks that users will pay the premium for its excellent network and LTE connectivity.
Another report by 9to5Google said that Galaxy Nexus will be headed on Verizon Wireless next week without Google Wallet feature. Although it has NFC chip, the app will not be available in Android Market for Verizon users. The reason to block Google Wallet is their recent creation of a new mobile payment project called ISIS. ISIS is a Wallet like feature created by Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile along with others to roll out in 2012...............
http://mirolta.com/2011/12/06/veriz...-299-99-with-contract-blocking-google-wallet/
Just created an account so that I could comment on how mad I am about no google wallet. In a time when the national sentiment has been bashing corporations for being profit-centered and not caring about their customers, Verizon decides to do something like this? They really need to fire their public relations department, because somebody f'ed up.
Back to lurking the forum.
Yeah, Sprint and Google jumped into bed behind closed doors and locked everyone else out. Brilliant.
Sad, really as NFC needs to take off, like, quick. Now. But it won't, sadly.
So, there will be millions of GNEXs and even SGSII's with dead NFC potential. Sounds great to me! (and while neat, Android beam doesn't count. this is about mobile payments which is crippled beyond belief do to...drum roll...money!).
Absolute boneheads making these deals (looking at you google)
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Yeah, Sprint and Google jumped into bed behind closed doors and locked everyone else out. Brilliant.
Sad, really as NFC needs to take off, like, quick. Now. But it won't, sadly.
So, there will be millions of GNEXs and even SGSII's with dead NFC potential. Sounds great to me! (and while neat, Android beam doesn't count. this is about mobile payments which is crippled beyond belief do to...drum roll...money!).
Absolute boneheads making these deals (looking at you google)
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What you're saying is inaccurate. Sprint and Google didn't block anyone. Tmobile, AT&T, and Verizon are all involved in Isis and apparently don't want Google Wallet competing with them. Reports are saying that all 3 of those companies intend to block Google Wallet. They want to push Isis and don't want the competition posing any type of threat to their investment. The nfc potential will not be dead, as these companies are planning to move forward with it, they just don't like competition. I do question the legality of such a move though, as it is clearly anti-competitive.
I've never seen any of these apps but I understand their value and why these companies are fighting over it.
Google bro isn't my priority here. What's important to me is the app works seamlessly, is safe, is most accepted when I'm out shopping, and doesn't add exorbitant fees. It's very early and consumers don't have much of a say in the matter.
One thing to watch out for is data tracking and selling info to 3rd parties. This would be ripe for this app.
So much for pure Google.
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So much for pure Google.
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good ol' verizon. I have T-Mobile also(just I prefer the unlimited data I have on verizon)...
word on the street is that this friday's the day. although I have a Rezound atm and considering exchanging it for a GN... I do like the Rezound more(hardware-wise), just with my big hands id prefer to have a phone with the biggest screen possible. that and I got it from Best Buy Mobile so will have to wait until they get it in... hopefully I can get them to price match the $219 I paid for this one.
Really sad. All the more evidence this is Verizon's show, and not Google's.
I totally agree....
I am/was exteremely excited to finally get a plain vanilla android device on VZW, as i'm grandfathered in to the unlimited data and have no plans of changing providers.
When i was in Japan and on DoCoMo i had an essentially plain vanilla device, and it was great. The news that 1) VZW is putting their apps on the phone, and 2) NFC not being able to be utilized for google wallet (at least out of the box), is a HUGE disappointment.
NFC/Google Wallet was one of the biggest things i was excited about for this phone, and i'm VERY sad that i'll have to possibly root it just to run google wallet, or wait for VZW/Google to sort something out.
This seems like a clear violation of the Block C auction rules.... not a good move by verizon
It also seems like a violation of anti-trust laws
legality and disappointment aside, there's a pretty good chance we will be able to add Google wallet if we root right?
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legality and disappointment aside, there's a pretty good chance we will be able to add Google wallet if we root right?
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Yea. If NFC works then we can get it to read Google Wallet. Verizon probably just blocks it from the app market.
This news sucks but in reality, I don't even know anyone in the US that accepts Google Wallet... so I wasn't really leaning toward using it anyway.
Plus I'd rather have support for what works around me. If Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, all use a special kind, then that's what I want.
Obviously they are just trying to monitize on the tech by charging per use... or play big brother like with Carrier IQ crap. I can't trust them to handle my SMS anymore, let alone my transactions.
Well we'll see. I'd prefer Google take the lead on this but who knows if Google is any better at handling my expenses either...
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So much for pure Google.
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The most shocking thing isn't that VZW commanded it, but that Google accepted it. The whole purpose of a "Google" phone was purity and historically they never bowed to carriers demands. Other than radio differences, the phones were the same regardless of carrier. Google has in effect sold themselves out to move devices in larger quantities. Sad.
This makes me so mad at Verizon. I've been waiting a long time for this phone and I was excited about NFC & Google Wallet. I will be rooting so I'm sure that I will have Google Wallet running in no time, but this sullies the "pure Google" Nexus brand
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This news sucks but in reality, I don't even know anyone in the US that accepts Google Wallet... so I wasn't really leaning toward using it anyway.
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That's true enough, the only place I can think of that currently accept Google Wallet are McDonald's, Macy's, and Peet's Coffee. But the reason this should make you angry is that by limiting access to Google Wallet, Verizon is putting a stranglehold on the growth of the service. This makes it more likely that their "Isis" service, that isn't even available yet, could win out as a mobile payment solution. There have got to be some anti-trust ramifications here. I for one will now refuse to ever use Isis out of principle.
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The most shocking thing isn't that VZW commanded it, but that Google accepted it. The whole purpose of a "Google" phone was purity and historically they never bowed to carriers demands. Other than radio differences, the phones were the same regardless of carrier. Google has in effect sold themselves out to move devices in larger quantities. Sad.
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We dont know the details, but I'm willing to bet Google didn't just roll over on this one. Verizon isn't just another carrier, they are the largest carrier with the most clout. I have to disagree with your premise that this constitutes Google's "selling out" of the Nexus brand. Imagine the uphill battle that Google must have faced in getting Verizon to even consider allowing a Nexus device to exist on their network.
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Good point. I bet your right.
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Yea. If NFC works then we can get it to read Google Wallet. Verizon probably just blocks it from the app market.
This news sucks but in reality, I don't even know anyone in the US that accepts Google Wallet... so I wasn't really leaning toward using it anyway.
Plus I'd rather have support for what works around me. If Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, all use a special kind, then that's what I want.
Obviously they are just trying to monitize on the tech by charging per use... or play big brother like with Carrier IQ crap. I can't trust them to handle my SMS anymore, let alone my transactions.
Well we'll see. I'd prefer Google take the lead on this but who knows if Google is any better at handling my expenses either...
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It's not places that accept Google Wallet that you'd be looking for, it's places that accept Paypass (from Mastercard). Places that I frequent that accept paypass are Best Buy, Dairy Queen, Riteaid, CVS, McDonalds, and others. There's a Kroger near me that accepts it too. My doctor's office also has paypass, and many gas stations. It isn't available everywhere but it's in enough places that it is useful, as I use it frequently.
Just felt like I should explain my own experiences here. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus on AT&T and cannot download Google Wallet, either. It seems like the entire device doesn't currently support Google Wallet. So it's not that Verizon is blocking it, it's that they're not adding support for it.
I am sorry but to me the galaxy nexus isn't a real nexus. At least the verizon edition isn't. I believed the nexus was something that stood apart from other phones in that it came to the customer exactly as google intended. Now verizon dictates what apps are available on it? on a nexus?! Instead of me labeling it more drastically as the "nexus line is dead", I'd rather say that the verizon nexus isn't a real nexus.
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I am sorry but to me the galaxy nexus isn't a real nexus. At least the verizon edition isn't. I believed the nexus was something that stood apart from other phones in that it came to the customer exactly as google intended. Now verizon dictates what apps are available on it? on a nexus?! Instead of me labeling it more drastically as the "nexus line is dead", I'd rather say that the verizon nexus isn't a real nexus.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/6/2...ont-launch-on-the-galaxy-nexus-but-commercial
Just sayin'
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/6/2...ont-launch-on-the-galaxy-nexus-but-commercial
Just sayin'
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Ah, I see. So it's not confirmed that they are blocking just that they haven't added support yet. Well I guess we will see. But i will say this.... How is google's flagship phone not going to have something like google wallet working out of the box? Something to think about.
With Apple's recent decision to not support NFC I'm interested to see where you think NFC will be in a year. Personally I think that more merchants will support the standard as Android phones such as the Galaxy S III put NFC in the hands of more and more consumers. I think that this time next year NFC will be more common and well known than QR codes.
I think that if apple announce NFC support for the iphone 5S or 6, not only will it kick off but many would think it's a completely never seen before new idea.
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NFC simply not yet popular in USA and Apple's management have limited geographic knowledges. It doesn't mean that NFC will gone. NFC is being developed by NXP, the main player on contactless payment systems. So it won't gone, but right opposite.
It needs an infrastructure that is global. Google must have ****ed off too many financial institutions with Google Wallet.
I can only see 3 companies in the world that can court groups like VISA to hugely promote common NFC payment register devices:
1. Apple
2. Samsung
3. Google
Apple isn't doing NFC this gen, and Google doesn't seem to want to court anybody. Why can't Samsung do a massive promotional push in partnership with VISA in some major cities around the world to promote 'paying for a drink with your S3 or Note 2' feature that the iPhone 5 will never get? A handful of London, New York, LA, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Paris bars etc. Only for people with VISA etc.
You spend $1 or 2 billion on the marketing and tech (Samsung can build the readers) and roll out this before xmas. Bang! Massive marketing coup for the whole world to see and push forward a feature that will make anybody without NFC envious.
Those banking card companies needs NFC least of all, as it will kill their business. Electronic payment systems, like QIWI, Yandex.Money, Google Wallet - those are who needs NFC most of all.
Right now NFC is dominantly using by transportation operators, like metro, bus. But it's a matter of time.
I believe that the problem is that NFC is not significantly better than mag stripe (for simple debit/credit applications) or QR/bar codes (for simple info & id applications).
If you could show NFC was faster than mag stripe, Walmart and McDonalds would jump on it with both feet. That would drag Visa and MasterCard along with them.
Similarly, if the credit card companies had to adopt chip&pin, NFC demand would increase.
contactless system greatly improve throughput capability on transport over magnetic stripe. that's why moscow metro, tokyo rail companies, hong kong mtr and some other rushed to adopt smart cards in late 1990's. moscow metro switched entirely to contactless system back in 2008.
its definitly a helpful function to pay low prices like the bus or something similar but for the system to work properly we need more users with NFC smartphones and more places where you can pay with that
I thing next year is the year of NFC
I think that you're right, for "dumb" contactless systems like cards. With NFC on cell phones, I suspect it will be slower until users have enough experience. On my Nexus S, I have to unlock the phone to enable NFC. In addition, if I haven't used wallet recently, I have to enter that pin. Not a great burden, but slower than pulling my wallet out and tapping it on the reader.
Google Wallet doesn't have anything to do with technology. It's just an app, that has limited popularity around the world and has a lot of competitors.
You can set NFC always to on and just click a button to confirm payment. Or not to click anything for trusted clients. There could be many ways to use this technology. And metro systems can offer own NFC programs.
I'd guess it will be one or two more years until we see more use of the NFC technology. Theres still alot of hasle with the standards that are not really there, yet. Everybody involved into this want to keep as much of this technology for himself in order to have the biggest piece of the cake. I mean, I can totaly understand that from a business point of view, but in the end it's one of the reasons why NFC doesn't really take off. The big players need to realize that they won't make the big money if this technology never takes of f and thus at some point a compromise will be found which will lead to more standardized approaches to nfc.
I was wondering when they'd enter into this new hardware upgrade arena
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...early-upgrade-plan-to-launch-on-september-20/
It's nice for those that don't care about their current phones. (I typically am the geek of the family and use another line's upgrade and play the hand-me-down game.) However, If you're willing to trade in your device at the end of 12 months for a new one, then this plan will likely appeal to you. If the pricing structure is as advertised in that article - then Sprint is actually a cheaper alternative to T-Mobile's JUMP.
EDIT: Here's another article that has the pricing structure. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57603017-94/sprint-preps-one-up-its-own-early-upgrade-program/
The handing over of the phone would be what stops it for me. I like keeping an old one for a back up in case something happens to the current one. I'm guessing this extends your contract two years from the date you upgrade?
Also you'd have to opt in the new unlimited my way plans, which costs more money for me at least.
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I figured it wouldn't be long before sprint had their hand in this as well. I can't wait though note 3 will be mine.
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Hi, new to the forum.
I have had my Galaxy Nexus for nearly two years now. Actually it's my fifth when you consider insurance replacements.
I'm coming up on end of contract with Verizon, and my wife is already beyond the two year mark, so we are looking at changing providers. First off, suggestions on a good provider? I'd be fine with an AIO type of setup, $55/month 2gb/unlimited voice & text type of deal. However, Verizon is pretty good with replacing phones when they break, and I have had to replace this phone a few times.
I know I need a new device to work on another network outside of Verizon, so was looking for the best source of new or used Galaxy Nexus phones that will work on either T Mobile or ATT, beyond eBay. I don't know if there's only one other type of more than one other type outside Verizon, kind of lost there, so I don't know what I need.
I have a ton of accessories for the phone, the most recent of which is a 3800mah battery which doesn't die when I'm using the Nike running app on long runs or MapMyRide when cycling. The reason I'm not interested in many other phones is I want a phone with a battery I can swap out and a decent aftermarket for accessories like that.
To add to this, I love that Verizon offers great insurance on the phone and always replaces it whenever it goes batty - this has happened 4-5 times with my GNex. That's about all I love re: Verizon though. Not sure if other providers are as good about this, and if I bring my own phone it would seem it's up to me to replace it if something goes wrong. Haven't done that before.
Page plus cellular is an excellent Verizon MVNO that offers the 2gb, unlimited talk/text plan. You would have to manually program the nexus to work on their network though because they don't officially support lte devices. There are people who can do it for you for about $50.
You're right in that you won't be able to insure your device, but with the money you save you can afford to buy a couple devices per year. That's how I look at it anyway.
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Page plus cellular is an excellent Verizon MVNO that offers the 2gb, unlimited talk/text plan. You would have to manually program the nexus to work on their network though because they don't officially support lte devices. There are people who can do it for you for about $50.
You're right in that you won't be able to insure your device, but with the money you save you can afford to buy a couple devices per year. That's how I look at it anyway.
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Thanks Epi.
In looking on Craigslist and other various sources, it doesn't seem like I'm going to save a lot of money on a new device if I want a nexus anything, even a Nexus4 at this point. So it's either pay $150-$350 (ranging from a used GSM Galaxy Nexus or a brand spankin' new Play Store Nexus5) so I can save money every month, or stick with Verizon and upgrade when I have to, to a Galaxy S4 or something of the like. Was hoping to find a deeper/cheaper aftermarket, in particular for the Galaxy Nexus since it's two years old, but not having much luck on finding something inexpensive. Sort of takes the shine off of saving $$ and sticking it to Verizon
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Thanks Epi.
In looking on Craigslist and other various sources, it doesn't seem like I'm going to save a lot of money on a new device if I want a nexus anything, even a Nexus4 at this point. So it's either pay $150-$350 (ranging from a used GSM Galaxy Nexus or a brand spankin' new Play Store Nexus5) so I can save money every month, or stick with Verizon and upgrade when I have to, to a Galaxy S4 or something of the like. Was hoping to find a deeper/cheaper aftermarket, in particular for the Galaxy Nexus since it's two years old, but not having much luck on finding something inexpensive. Sort of takes the shine off of saving $$ and sticking it to Verizon
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epi - how does one find someone that can program a 4G phone on Page Plus? Would be great to simply take our Verizon devices (an iPhone 4, so not 4G/LTE, and my Galaxy Nexus) to PagePlus....if you can let me know I'd really appreciate it.
Can someone help me understand having to pay even after Galaxy forever able to upgrade and turning in phone. That you pay 699 and on top pay a monthly and pay money to return phone?
Forever Justice said:
Can someone help me understand having to pay even after Galaxy forever able to upgrade and turning in phone. That you pay 699 and on top pay a monthly and pay money to return phone?
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Basically it is an early upgrade program where you lease a phone and make monthly payments. When you pay off at least 50% of the total price you return the phone and are able to lease another phone for monthly payments.
Now what happens after you return the phone may vary, but if I recall correctly when you return the phone they accelerate the remaining payments. So long as the phone meets the set criteria for being in good condition they will credit the account for the same amount. If the phone is to banged up, damaged or something else which makes it not meet the criteria they set you will be charged the remaining amount (or what ever amount is set forth in the terms/conditions). So the only thing you should be paying at the time of upgrade would be the sales tax for the new phone you are upgrading too...
Of course if you want the most accurate answers you should call the carrier/provider whom you are getting the galaxy forever upgrade through.
My provider has a similar early upgrade program, but unless I have the handset insurance I have to pay a 45.00 upgrade along with what ever taxes are for the total price of the phone. So for the Galaxy S20 Ultra it would be about 100 dollars out of pocket for the early upgrade (45.00 early upgrade fee, rest is sales tax).
Essentially you pay for the rest of your life and NEVER actually own a phone as it is being leased (or paid off forever)...
Might as well throw your soul in there too as the devil now owns it anyway..
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Essentially you pay for the rest of your life and NEVER actually own a phone as it is being leased (or paid off forever)...
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True... The program is geared towards those who want to have the latest phone every year. For this a person should be aware of what it is they are enrolling into and what it means to "lease" a phone.
But if if I recall correctly it is optional and not mandatory. Even if a person is enrolled under the Galaxy Forever program a person can just simply finish paying the lease normally and (once done paying) own the phone in question.
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Last I recall the program was optional, not mandatory.
A person can just simply finish paying the phone normally under the lease and own the phone in question.
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With AT&T it's a perk if you want to upgrade due to eye candy your soul can't resist.
A better and cheaper option if you're hell bent on buying a new model.
So far Samsung hasn't given me enough reasons to migrate from the 10+
Probably skip a year or two and see if Samsung can get back on the ball. Major fail in the newest models; way expensive for good internal memory + external memory and no bluetooth AptX HD support.
The Note 20 ultra is also ultra harder to protect with it's cam tit which makes it thicker as well.
The laser focus is nice though... about time.
if it's the samsung upgrade program it's really not worth it unless there is a big upgrade.
I took it from last year from a Note 9 to the 10+ 5G as I wanted 5G as I live in a 5G area, but in truth it was a bad deal. I paid probably £500 then had to send back the phone after a year and all I got off the new phone was token £100, if I held on to the phone for the 2 years the trade in Value would probably still be higher than £100 and I could definite sell the phone for more than that.
also if you have any damage on the phone over general wear and tear you will likely be charged for repairs on top.
so yeah I did it to get 5G as it was an important update for me but on a regular yearly update it's a really terrible deal and should be ignored unless you have money to burn.