Hi there! I have a Galaxy Tab S4, as you can imagine. I use it as my gaming device. The only game I play is Rues Of Survival. And well, Among us, but I don't even take it into consideration as a demanding game.
The tablet is not rooted but I debloated it with adb as far as I could. Android 10 on board.
Probably this crappy game became so poorly optimized that the performance degraded over time.
Now I am at a point where it's pretty unplayable even if I lower the resolution.
Let's see what I have tried so far.
I have checked the usage of CPU, GPU, temp and FPS with the game launcher plug-in. I have an average of 60 FPS with an average CPU usage of 8% and an average GPU usage of 80%. The problem occurs during crowded scenes. The FPS drop to 30, making the whole thing sutter really hard, the CPU usage stays the same and the GPU usage drops to 60%. WHY THE HECK?!
I have tried a couple of different resolutions (the game does not specifically states to how many pixels correspond each d*mn option) with close to no improvements. The graphics got really ugly, obviously.
Should I try to root and disable DVFS? Should I root and lower the resolution of the whole tablet to a normal fullHD with terminal? Should I stop complaining? Should I quit playing? Should I get a new tablet?
It seems pretty absurd that a game that I was able to play on my Galaxy S6, now got so demanding. Or that a 500 euros tablet aged so badly in two years.
Are those 2 free GB of ram out of 4 not enough to handle the game?
I can play it quite flawlessly on my OnePlus Nord. But this is NOT an option. The hardware specs of the two devices should be comparable. What mostly changes are the screen resolution (lower on the OP Nord) and the ram size (double on the OP Nord).
I doesn't try that game, but I played others (pubg (highers settings), stardew valley, this war of mine... etc), and I have not had problems at all. I'm stock. Have you try game booster?
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Hey,
i just bought an HDMI adapter for my GNex and wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with the FPSe Emulator, but the performance is like a wave ^^
For some seconds very smooth and then it begins to lag for some seconds and so on...
I also noticed that the warmer the phone the worse the performance, but why does it even go hot?
i mean the PSX has a 33MHz CPU
My setup: Apex 1.0.2
PopcornKernel 7.2
Does anyone have a simular problem?
cheers
I have the same "issue".
Fpsce works perfect on my Xperia Play, for example with Colin 2, always 50 fps, always perfect.
In Nexus i have over 40 fps with hard downs who makes the game inplayable, even with dual core boost marked.
I don´t understand anything, maybe is about the 720p, maybe ICS, maybe GPU....
eiabea said:
Hey,
i just bought an HDMI adapter for my GNex and wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with the FPSe Emulator, but the performance is like a wave ^^
For some seconds very smooth and then it begins to lag for some seconds and so on...
I also noticed that the warmer the phone the worse the performance, but why does it even go hot?
i mean the PSX has a 33MHz CPU
My setup: Apex 1.0.2
PopcornKernel 7.2
Does anyone have a simular problem?
cheers
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so when your phone gets warmer it has lower performance?
its probably due to throttling due to high thermal output. regardless of governor, kernel, or settings, if the chip gets too hot it will throttle down to the lowest state, usually 350mhz. causing massive lag. this is normal practice in a lot of poorly cooled, space confined chips. maybe try undervolting to keep the temps down. stay away from overclocks. they are not stable due to this reason. i rather play smooth 30fps then 50fps with constant stutters and freezes. overclocking does not solve all issues, it usually introduces new performance issues due to bottlenecking
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its probably due to throttling due to high thermal output. regardless of governor, kernel, or settings, if the chip gets too hot it will throttle down to the lowest state, usually 350mhz. causing massive lag. this is normal practice in a lot of poorly cooled, space confined chips. maybe try undervolting to keep the temps down. stay away from overclocks. they are not stable due to this reason. i rather play smooth 30fps then 50fps with constant stutters and freezes. overclocking does not solve all issues, it usually introduces new performance issues due to bottlenecking
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okay i will try, but why does the CPU even get this hot while emulating? even my calculator has more power than the good old PSX
Because it have to convert it to a higher resolution + the emulator might not be that good...
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Hi Everyone,
Just wondering how your Nexus 7 runs under the new OS? I notice my device getting higher temperature than before, especially when playing some games. For example, with CPUTEMP and Smash Hit, CPU's temp was around 50-55C on Kitkat but now it is 65-75 on Lollipop.
Would be great if someone can run the same test and see if you get high temperature on this game.
Thanks
I can attest to this myself. I use the same app (on a N5 and N7) and I've noticed that the feel in the hand, while doing normal stuff with the same usage pattern, seemed hotter than normal. So I launch the CPUTEMP app and run the overlay, put the N7 to sleep for 15 minutes to idle. Temp starts around 36 C when first turning on the screen, then it ramps up to 44 - 50. Then while actually using the device, (e.g. surfing the web, email, basic stuff) the temps will go up to the 50s and 60s easily. If I leave it at rest on the homescreen after using the tablet, it idles around the low to mid 40s. While video chatting online with someone (hangouts / skype / etc) it will ramp up to 70s, then 80s, and finally cap out at 95 C. (5 degrees before S4Pro SoC maximum?) A video chat will last 2 - 2.5 hours on a fully charged battery, and the heavy SoC throttling affects the frame rate / responsiveness of both my front / back camera preview during vid chat and the entire OS. Downloading an app or two brings the temp 55 - 61, and then installing them (due to AoT compile) from 61 to 72.
The same goes for my N5 also on Lollipop, to a lesser degree, but nonetheless, it runs higher average temps than I noticed while running KitKat. Both devices appear to drain battery quicker on Lollipop, especially during use. That's not even considering LTE / mobile data use, since these days I'm here at home using WiFi all the time.
lpachuong said:
Hi Everyone,
Just wondering how your Nexus 7 runs under the new OS? I notice my device getting higher temperature than before, especially when playing some games. For example, with CPUTEMP and Smash Hit, CPU's temp was around 50-55C on Kitkat but now it is 65-75 on Lollipop.
Would be great if someone can run the same test and see if you get high temperature on this game.
Thanks
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Yes. You are correct. Even i face the same issue. The device gets heated even on playing candy crush / angry birds which was not the case with kitkat 4.4.4.
OK, someone is willingly to sell me a Tab Pro 8.4 for a good price. Now everything works well, except for small fly in the ointment. He said while heavy gaming sometimes the tablet reboots. SO not sure if this is a software or hardware issue?
I have personally never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of other people getting this problem. The 8.4 can get pretty hot on the left side in the middle, where I assume the processor is located, though. Seems like a hardware problem specific to that tablet though, maybe a bad batch of CPU's.
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I have personally never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of other people getting this problem. The 8.4 can get pretty hot on the left side in the middle, where I assume the processor is located, though. Seems like a hardware problem specific to that tablet though, maybe a bad batch of CPU's.
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Nor have I, seller says everything works just really heavy gaming that its rebooted at times.
Shouldn't reboot, the tablet has thermal monitoring and will down-clock the cpu if it gets too hot, it could be a software issue or a problem with knox as that is known to reboot the tablet...
maybe it was a return and someone installed a custom firmware then flashed it back to stock.
Though can't really rule out the possibility of a buggy game, some apps such as reicast will cause this tablet to reboot due to a kernel bug / snapdragon bug (on stock firmware).
I have tab 8.4 and it heats fast when I play some racing or 3D games (example Asphalt 8, NFS:MW,Roblox,Minecraft,etc) or even if I watch YouTube videos on 1080p60 or 4K for about 10mins. And when it overheats, performance is worse than not overheated(on YouTube, not a big effect). That thing is only when I play that game or watch that video. Can I somehow make it not overheat without losing performance?
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I have tab 8.4 and it heats fast when I play some racing or 3D games (example Asphalt 8, NFS:MW,Roblox,Minecraft,etc) or even if I watch YouTube videos on 1080p60 or 4K for about 10mins. And when it overheats, performance is worse than not overheated(on YouTube, not a big effect). That thing is only when I play that game or watch that video. Can I somehow make it not overheat without losing performance?
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if you are rooted you can downclock the cpu or limit the number of cores active at one time.
Turning the screen brightness down can help too.
I am NOT rooted, brightness is about 20%.
Poking around with the kernel, and experiencing this myself, the cores are pretty hefty and can generate some heat under full power. The GPU is not so hefty, so can generate heat when overworked (e.g., by playing games). It underclocks itself to protect against overheating, but of it gets to a certain temperature, it will restart to remove the load on the cores and stop the generation of heat. There is nothing adversely wrong with your device. That's supposed to happen. Trust me. I have had the Tab Pro for a while.
having used the note 10+ for a day or so i can safely say that the performance is pretty bad, it feels sluggish and some demanding wallpaper apps actually lag
this app for example sometimes slow down to a crawl what feels like 5 fps https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxelus.motionlivewallpaper
it's corrected by going to settings and changing from 60 fps to 50 fps but then it slows down again, i know this wallpaper is demanding but this is not acceptable on a 1100 smartphone
Well, I have had issues with various live wallpapers in the past, I dont know why, but live wallpapers do not work equally across devices, more to it, sometimes some lwp work fine for a while, then stop working at all, I went to playstore to check this lwp, and there others complaining about an update that made the lwp worst, I think the problem is not exynos related
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having used the note 10+ for a day or so i can safely say that the performance is pretty bad, it feels sluggish and some demanding wallpaper apps actually lag
this app for example sometimes slow down to a crawl what feels like 5 fps https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxelus.motionlivewallpaper
it's corrected by going to settings and changing from 60 fps to 50 fps but then it slows down again, i know this wallpaper is demanding but this is not acceptable on a 1100 smartphone
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I agree im dissapointed it feels very sluggish to the point i am considering to sell asap..
Thats why snapdragon is a better option
Isn't the exynos chip not better then snapdragon? I read somewhere that the Exynos chip is a tad more powerful then then snapdragon although barely noticeable
I have no issues with exynos.
Mine is fine.
Mines fine too, compared to my S10+ battery life is a good improvement, speed is similar
Just trying to play Donkey Kong Country Returns on the Snapdragon 860 Xiaomi Pad and I notice fps drops on 1x and 4x. Try every setting, nothing changes. Even Gpu usage is only half.
Then I enabled fps counter and whenever it hits 30 C max it throttles to super low fps and doesn't go any bit higher. Explains the stutters I had in other Games.
30 C is nothing, feels like a scam, it runs like a low-end device.
Is there any fix? Any tutorial that works? With root or so? Just 35 C would be enough, It’s just 10 C here too. If not don’t buy Xiaomi for games, it’s not playable at all! It’s like a bad joke.
Over here the same problem and stuttering in fixed 60hz emulators
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Over here the same problem and stuttering in fixed 60hz emulators
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Sucks man, surprised no ones talking about this. The device is easily strong enough for 3DS and even some Switch games, but with this maybe it can't even do some older emulators smoothly, will do some more testing.
So here is the Video:
Flickering is due to the video recording only, but you can still see that it runs fine until the temp hits 30c, then it becomes very slow. You can see the graphic turn orange.
hopefully a developer can port a kernel of the xiaomi x3 pro that they share the same soc and all these problems can be solved, since I bought it for emulation and it does not work smooth as silk
I hope so! But I found a fix for this problem at least, you have to use Citra, not Citra MMJ, there seems to be a problem with that version. In normal Citra it runs at 60 fps at over 35 C but it still has some frame drops from time to time.
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Just trying to play Donkey Kong Country Returns on the Snapdragon 860 Xiaomi Pad and I notice fps drops on 1x and 4x. Try every setting, nothing changes. Even Gpu usage is only half.
Then I enabled fps counter and whenever it hits 30 C max it throttles to super low fps and doesn't go any bit higher. Explains the stutters I had in other Games.
30 C is nothing, feels like a scam, it runs like a low-end device.
Is there any fix? Any tutorial that works? With root or so? Just 35 C would be enough, It’s just 10 C here too. If not don’t buy Xiaomi for games, it’s not playable at all! It’s like a bad joke.
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I have Poco X3 Pro... it does have thermal throttling also... but I managed to get rid of throttling by flashing a HAVOC OS custom rom...
MIUI is known for throttling SOCs...
I have the same problem when playing Hearthstone. Anyway to turn off thermal throttling completely ?