OK, someone is willingly to sell me a Tab Pro 8.4 for a good price. Now everything works well, except for small fly in the ointment. He said while heavy gaming sometimes the tablet reboots. SO not sure if this is a software or hardware issue?
I have personally never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of other people getting this problem. The 8.4 can get pretty hot on the left side in the middle, where I assume the processor is located, though. Seems like a hardware problem specific to that tablet though, maybe a bad batch of CPU's.
Sicron said:
I have personally never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of other people getting this problem. The 8.4 can get pretty hot on the left side in the middle, where I assume the processor is located, though. Seems like a hardware problem specific to that tablet though, maybe a bad batch of CPU's.
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Nor have I, seller says everything works just really heavy gaming that its rebooted at times.
Shouldn't reboot, the tablet has thermal monitoring and will down-clock the cpu if it gets too hot, it could be a software issue or a problem with knox as that is known to reboot the tablet...
maybe it was a return and someone installed a custom firmware then flashed it back to stock.
Though can't really rule out the possibility of a buggy game, some apps such as reicast will cause this tablet to reboot due to a kernel bug / snapdragon bug (on stock firmware).
I have tab 8.4 and it heats fast when I play some racing or 3D games (example Asphalt 8, NFS:MW,Roblox,Minecraft,etc) or even if I watch YouTube videos on 1080p60 or 4K for about 10mins. And when it overheats, performance is worse than not overheated(on YouTube, not a big effect). That thing is only when I play that game or watch that video. Can I somehow make it not overheat without losing performance?
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I have tab 8.4 and it heats fast when I play some racing or 3D games (example Asphalt 8, NFS:MW,Roblox,Minecraft,etc) or even if I watch YouTube videos on 1080p60 or 4K for about 10mins. And when it overheats, performance is worse than not overheated(on YouTube, not a big effect). That thing is only when I play that game or watch that video. Can I somehow make it not overheat without losing performance?
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if you are rooted you can downclock the cpu or limit the number of cores active at one time.
Turning the screen brightness down can help too.
I am NOT rooted, brightness is about 20%.
Poking around with the kernel, and experiencing this myself, the cores are pretty hefty and can generate some heat under full power. The GPU is not so hefty, so can generate heat when overworked (e.g., by playing games). It underclocks itself to protect against overheating, but of it gets to a certain temperature, it will restart to remove the load on the cores and stop the generation of heat. There is nothing adversely wrong with your device. That's supposed to happen. Trust me. I have had the Tab Pro for a while.
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Hey,
i just bought an HDMI adapter for my GNex and wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with the FPSe Emulator, but the performance is like a wave ^^
For some seconds very smooth and then it begins to lag for some seconds and so on...
I also noticed that the warmer the phone the worse the performance, but why does it even go hot?
i mean the PSX has a 33MHz CPU
My setup: Apex 1.0.2
PopcornKernel 7.2
Does anyone have a simular problem?
cheers
I have the same "issue".
Fpsce works perfect on my Xperia Play, for example with Colin 2, always 50 fps, always perfect.
In Nexus i have over 40 fps with hard downs who makes the game inplayable, even with dual core boost marked.
I don´t understand anything, maybe is about the 720p, maybe ICS, maybe GPU....
eiabea said:
Hey,
i just bought an HDMI adapter for my GNex and wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with the FPSe Emulator, but the performance is like a wave ^^
For some seconds very smooth and then it begins to lag for some seconds and so on...
I also noticed that the warmer the phone the worse the performance, but why does it even go hot?
i mean the PSX has a 33MHz CPU
My setup: Apex 1.0.2
PopcornKernel 7.2
Does anyone have a simular problem?
cheers
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so when your phone gets warmer it has lower performance?
its probably due to throttling due to high thermal output. regardless of governor, kernel, or settings, if the chip gets too hot it will throttle down to the lowest state, usually 350mhz. causing massive lag. this is normal practice in a lot of poorly cooled, space confined chips. maybe try undervolting to keep the temps down. stay away from overclocks. they are not stable due to this reason. i rather play smooth 30fps then 50fps with constant stutters and freezes. overclocking does not solve all issues, it usually introduces new performance issues due to bottlenecking
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its probably due to throttling due to high thermal output. regardless of governor, kernel, or settings, if the chip gets too hot it will throttle down to the lowest state, usually 350mhz. causing massive lag. this is normal practice in a lot of poorly cooled, space confined chips. maybe try undervolting to keep the temps down. stay away from overclocks. they are not stable due to this reason. i rather play smooth 30fps then 50fps with constant stutters and freezes. overclocking does not solve all issues, it usually introduces new performance issues due to bottlenecking
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okay i will try, but why does the CPU even get this hot while emulating? even my calculator has more power than the good old PSX
Because it have to convert it to a higher resolution + the emulator might not be that good...
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The German site golem.de reviewed the 6p and the 5x and said both were throttling after about 15 Minutes of playing Riptide GP 2 on full graphics setting.
Can anyone confirm this for the 5x? That's a bit unexpected for me...
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http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-5x-u...-sind-ihren-preis-nicht-wert-1511-117247.html
I think I do feel thermal throttling as I can't explain the occasional lag I'm experiencing on my N5X.
When the lag happens, it happens but when it's ok, everything is smooth and I can't reproduce the lag by using same app/same steps..etc
I've been wondering about this as well. I know the 808 doesn't suck as much power as the 810 but the thermals of the device don't seem that great: heat seems to build up in the area between fingerprint sensor and the camera and the corresponding area on the screen. The screen in particular gets really hot.
I've been playing Uprising and it does seem sluggish once the device gets toasty. The gameplay feels OK but I wonder if the game sucks a bunch of CPU in the menu/inventory screens because that part seems to slow way down.
At first I though it might be running out of RAM but my experiments indicatesit might be heat. Restarting the device didn't really improve things (after it got hot again in a few minutes) but putting the device in the freezer for a few minutes does seem to help quite a bit, I did not notice the lags while the device felt cool in my hand...
Not a huge deal for me (I don't game much on my phone and it doesn't get nearly as hot doing lighter tasks) but kind of disappointing if true and heavier gamers expecting no throttling from 808 may have been let down sadly.
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The German site golem.de reviewed the 6p and the 5x and said both were throttling after about 15 Minutes of playing Riptide GP 2 on full graphics setting.
Can anyone confirm this for the 5x? That's a bit unexpected for me...
Link:
http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-5x-u...-sind-ihren-preis-nicht-wert-1511-117247.html
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Where do they show that? I'm not seeing any charts or anything that would indicate a throttle test with results. Maybe they just mention it in the text which would be strange to not have an accompanying chart to show their results.
However it's not really unexpected when the same could be said for 90% of devices.
I checked CPUz after about an hour of gaming (in this case Hearthstone) and the 2 high powered cores had been disabled leaving the work to the lower powered cores. However those were reaching their full clock speed (1.4Ghz) as was the GPU (600Mhz).
thermal throttling due to battery charging seems to be a big issue for me. Especially if I'm not using the stock charger. Basic browsing using Chrome becomes laggy and unresponsive, of the keyboard will be unusable. Thankfully the battery lasts a while and the issue goes away when I'm done charging.
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Where do they show that? I'm not seeing any charts or anything that would indicate a throttle test with results. Maybe they just mention it in the text which would be strange to not have an accompanying chart to show their results.
However it's not really unexpected when the same could be said for 90% of devices.
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No charts, it's described in the text on the second page of the review. They also have some benchmark values.
You might have to use Google translate...
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No charts, it's described in the text on the second page of the review. They also have some benchmark values.
You might have to use Google translate...
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Ah that's too bad. I guess I will wait for Anandtech or another site to do their performance consistency break down and comparison.
Does this phone overheating like others Xiaomi phones?
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Does this phone overheating like others Xiaomi phones?
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From what I read from others intensively playing games with this device, there was no problems such as overheating with this device. It gets warmer yes, and cools down pretty fast as soon as you stop playing.
Probably thanks to their cooling technology which is a copper pipe which brings heat from top (where chipsets are) to bottom of the phone.
Others with more real life experience might provide you with more detailed answers.
Hope this helps.
I don't play intensive games like pubg but I do play other games and can honestly say that I have not encountered any heating issues
Other activities like browsing and YouTube are also fine.
Yeah i am blown away by the lack of heating up on the devices. Even when playing with Citra for long periods of time I do not get heat issues
so far no heating issues, i think they might've optimized it more in the latest miui version
So guys I have bought a Samsung S20 exynos for gaming (yea I know exynos and gaming does not work) but somehow I managed to get a near perfect stable 45 FPS in genshin impact all medium setting with AA on and sfx to high
Wild Rift work stable 90 FPS all medium as well
The thing is the phone overheat like I actually feel scared that it may explode or something also the battery life became trash
I need to know if some of u actually managed to undervolt / overclock the phone
I check the forum but there was 0 threads or anything about this topic...
Also does not matter how hard it heat genshin impact wish is supposed to be the one to suffer terrible frame rates does not get effected at all while wild rift in the other hand get the worst insane never seen before stutter and believe me it's insane the game freezes the glitches with 0 playability
Sry if I posted in the wrong place am new to xda
After some testing here and there I ended up with package disabler pro and tried to disable some stuff like game launcher and it's plugins and there is something weird happening here.
My phone is not rooted yet so I can't actually go on and disable any of those apps but when I disable them with package disable pro app they actually dissappear not just disable like I cant go to apps then reactivate them cuz I literally can't find them there anymore I thought maybe the app just hide them and not disable them so I went on to try some games and somehow the performance went up ALOT like +20% improvement so I tried to check YouTube about disabling the game stuff and how much improvement people might get some went as far as even turning some sort of vpn to get the apps disabled only to get like +5% performance and even after that the moment the phone heats up the game goes bk to suck. I don't have that issue the phone won't stutter neither drop 1 single frame and heat even more then ever it hurts to hold it without the case and it won't allow u to charge while playing the battery icon will start flashing and no juice will go in so incase anyone have bad performance u can try this as well but its not to be used for long sessions u can't use it that long anyway 1h and the battery is dead...
Still if anyone got a way to undervolt plz tell me
EDIT: the apps I disabled pops right bk up as soon as I re-enable them from the package disabler
Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
Return it as defective and get another.
EtherealRemnant said:
Return it as defective and get another.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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I've heard that too on the 7900 but its the first time I heard about it on a mobile device, hence am wondering how gaming performance are faring for others with OP11.
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Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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This is in LA, so around 50-70 F or 10-20C. CPU runs at fairly okay temperature around 30-40C for normal day to day use (texting, redditing...). It's just a stark contrast from my OP8T or S23U since I pretty much don't notice those phones heating up but with OP11 I can consistently feel it gets warm.
My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chamber is used to spread heat. It is not some magic material which makes heat disappear.
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My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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The best solution i can give u is to buy a peltier cooler i.e Oneplus 18W freezing point, Oneplus 11 has a very good passive cooling and with a good peltier you wont have such issues
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thanks for the solution but dont think i do enough serious gaming on the phone to warrant a cooler. Just a bit disappointed and surprised at the overheating and throttling despite oneplus touting it having one of the better cooling systems out there. Since it happened on both OP11 I got my hands on, I'm going to attribute this to more of a software than hardware issue as other phones with same chipsets don't seem to have overheating problems.