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I have a Kenwood KDC-MP642U car audio system with Bluetooth capabilities and I have my HTC Touch Pro 2 [t-mobile] successfully paired and working great with 1 annoying exception.
As soon as the units connect to each other the contacts / phone book start downloading from the phone to the Kenwood system which is fine, however..... after EVERY call the contacts download fully again making the phone barely usable [slow] until the full phone book is downloaded. [90 secs for 150 contacts]
There is no setting on the Kenwood unit to not allow automatic download... if the phone supports it.... it will download. I was told by sales rep that his Kenwood did that as well and just to live with it ? ? ? ? ? ?
I have tried to find the appropriate registry setting on TP2 to deny auto PBAP access and download and cant find any help on this...... any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have the same setup, and noticed it on my prior phone as well (Motorola KRZR K1). I believe that the phone is updating the "recent calls" list on the headunit. I know for me the second download is MUCH faster than the first.
I haven't seen any information about preventing the update download.
this should do the trick:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3848325
Question: does it show up as one of the profiles under the bluetooth paired devices list?
Hi all,
Anyone can confirm that Desire has a rSAP (remote Sim access)?
Some people are saying it doesn't work with their Nav, some say it is working.
Any one got it hooked up to their Vw/Audi/Skoda RNS Nav?
Looking to change from my TouchHD.
Cheers,
Android does not support the SAP/rSAP protocol. It may be that some people have it working on cars that use the HFP or HSP profiles.
Thanks mate, not good at all!!!
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
swissman said:
A little up now the phone's live...
Does it support rsap? is there any way to push contacts etc...?
I got an audi with a built in Bluetooth system, pairing ok, phone etc ok, but no possibilities with my desire to have rsap working
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I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
Maybe you could check if it has another setting to retrieve data from the phone.
From what i know the new modules used in audi/vw/skoda are Novero modules (part of the nokia business) which only supports rsap.
The older modules are from harman/Becker and do support al the possible connectiontypes.
You can check which type you have under the passengers frontseat, the modules are build in under the seat, not in the radio.
If you have a Novero, tough luck. But you can always check on the local car junkyard if you can find an old car which does have a harman/becker, and build that one in
salahag said:
I also have the Audi built in BT system, and it works fine except that from what I've read about rSAP, I don't think it's working in that mode with the Audi.
The only difference (problem) I've been facing with my HTC phones vs. Nokia e71 is that the phone ring tone is not pushed to the car speakers when receiving a call. I was hoping it would work with the Desire as the default Audi BT ringtone is stupidly annoying.
Sorry off topic again, but I was wondering, are Bluetooth profiles generally defined by hardware or software? Or some by this, some by that?
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Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
salahag said:
Just wanted to add to eliminate any confusion. I can dial contacts saved on the phone and directly search for them on the car screen. But what I understood is that rSAP profile connects to the SIM card and fully replaces the phone, where it goes into some kind of sleep mode!
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Exactly... you can even read/send sms directly through the display and through your car multimedia system.
Ford
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
Tirinoarim said:
Just a little extra info, Desire now works with the Ford Convers+ system but ONLY on Android 2.1 Update1 (the stock Android 2.1 didn't work).
Just thought that may be why there's mixed reports of working/not working?
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I got the stock Android and it's showing Android 2.1 update 1.... but not working ;-)
Hmm - well I'm trying to use my HTC Desire with a 2010 Audi A3 with BT and not having any luck so far. Although it paired and transferred the phonebook (took quite a few minutes with a couple of hundred contacts), it's now being really flaky and sometimes just refusing to connect at all. I tried un-pairing/re-pairing but to no avail. It just seems to work sometimes for a bit then stop again. By comparison pairing my Desire with a Jabra BT headset worked fine.
Anyone else having these problems? Anyone know of any updates for the Audi software? (if not I suppose I'll just need to wait for Froyo and hope that it fixes things )
my desire works well with my VW golf.
phone book, calls (dialing and receiving) and status dispay working. not working is SMS
Hey Folks,
there is room for some BT "education", because most people don't know the difference between rSAP and Handsfree.
Handsfree is working like a BT headset - most disadvantage - you are using the phoneunit of your mobile.
rSAP is using BT protocoll to get only the SIM card of your mobile and work together with the phoneunit of your car.
For Audi you can see on which mode your are conntected at the MMI-Display => "SIM card icon" stands for rSAP while "Mobilephone icon" represents handsfree mode.
no rSAP
I could be wrong, but I was of the impression that Nokia had patented the RSAP protocol, so you're not going to see it on non-Nokia phones. Irritating, really. Some car users have retrofitted their handsfree kits with a module that uses handsfree profile with some success but it's not going to use the car antennae etc in this case.
rSAP is a "STANDARD" for bluetooth protocoll in general.
Nokia was one of the first, thatswhy the Nokia unit has some "problems" in early releases....
Well I picked up my Skoda Superb last week, dealer told me they were fitting the new GSM 3 units that had just recently changed, not that it meant much to me.
Anyways it did work fine first couple days then started playing up with not connecting, I went into the options because I found it was connecting to media, but not phone, so I disabled the media option on the phone for the bluetooth connections and its been fine ever since.
Desire running Modaco R4, R5 & R6 now also ok.
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
Will take a look though see if its connecting with a phone or sim card, I had noticed the signal always seemed really good even if the phone was berried in the car somewhere so maybe the rSAP explains it.
Tinyk said:
Also saw a file posted on there that is meant to fix the iffy bluetooth connection problems, its been confirmed as working but I've not tried it as I've not had any more problems with it.
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Do you have a link to the thread that includes this file by any chance?
Do not mix up android 2.1 and 2.2.
AFAIK the modaco roms are froyo which should have a better bluetooth stack than eclair.
Well some good news! The FroYo/2.2 update on the Desire seemed to do the trick for me and I now seem to be able to get a stable BT connection with my A3. Phonebook transfer working fine too and it's reacquiring the connection when getting back into the car.
Any hope for Android 2.1?
Alanjrobertson: did you say you got your HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with your Audi, albeit a bit flaky? I cant get my HTC Desire Android v2.1 phone working with my VW EOS working at all.
What was the process you followed? The process I went through was to turn on phone’s bluetooth and make my phone discoverable. I then initiated a search from the car. It found my phone and displayed the correct name. However, when I chose the “connect” option on the car, it gave the error message: "mobile telephone phone is not compatible" on the car’s MFD.
Is this what you did? Is there a better way of connecting?
The car’s entertainment system is RNS510. I’m not sure if this is associated with Bluetooth or not.
My previous phone (Nokia 5800) worked OK, but my Desire doesn’t.
I am hoping that the Android v2.2 upgrade will fix my problems, but I’m still waiting for the update from Orange. It could take a while by the sounds of things.
I contacted HTC and they told me “The HTC Desire does not have the remote sim access profile. we currently have no plans to update the Bluetooth profiles on the device.” This makes me worried that when I eventually do get the Android v2.2 upgrade it will not work.
Any ideas other than waiting for the Android v2.2 upgrade?
Anyone know anything about this stereo -
http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bluetooth-hands-free-car-kits/parrot-asteroid
Even, where it can be bought, how much it is? What OS it runs for that matter?
well it says that it has Android embedded, so the OS is Android
it looks pretty interesting too...
as for when/where/how much, the site says "Coming soon in 2011", so I'm guessing that it is yet-to-be-offered and they may not have decided their MSRP yet.
William
First, I don't know if I can post links yet. Second, I'm too lazy to dig it up. They had an article on Androidpolice during CES that included a speaker from Parrot showcasing it. I think he said a Q2 release. I'll be getting this the second its released, regardless of price.
anyone have any more details on this? Q2 is all they're saying...
I want one now!!
For the European markets, they say May. Hopefully the beginning of May
Hope they didn't get a developer team from Motorola, then it's going to takes at least another year
next week
i was infomrmed dynamicsounds expected to be stocked next week
wonder if its worth getting
i am currently considering getting it as i need a car kit any way
apperantly they are avalible as of today at 289 euro in the netherlands
I have one
I currently have an Asteroid sitting on my desk here
When I find some time tonight I'll take it for a testdrive and let you guys know!
Excellent. Please let us know.
What apps are available at the moment?
Im hoping for Spotify and proper navigation once the sdk is released...
Yay, someone that has the Asteroid!
Please, let us now!
And, tell us how the music player works.
I want to hook a big memory card, or if there's room a 40GB laptop harddisk to the unit.
Also, streaming from Bluetooth from your phone. Btw, what kind of phone do you have?
(And hmm.. Gorinchem.. That's not that far from my weekly commute.. )
Asteroid
Been driving around with the Asteroid for a while now and it's a pretty neat radio but not perfect.
Building it into the car was a breeze. With the radio came all the needed cables, like a 3,5mm jack, iPod cable, USB cable for usb-sticks, GPS dongle and microphone for the carkit. All cables were pretty long so you should have no problem routing them to whatever place you want them in your car.
Soundquality is pretty good and there are plenty of connections for subwoofers and external amplifiers so it should suffice even for cars with loads of fat speakers.
Connecting my phone, an HTC Desire with CyanogenMod 7.1 (nightly build), was easy through bluetooth and streaming music over bluetooth went without problems. Answering phonecalls and navigating the menu is pretty easy.
A few problems I ran into though. To use internet on the radio (for google maps, internet radio, coyote speed camera alerts) you can either use a 3g USB dongle (which costs you at least 10€ a month where I live) or tether your phone through bluetooth (maybe usb works, haven't tried yet). To do this, your phone needs to support the bluetooth DUN profile which android lacks. Nokia phones should be no problem though. I've tried using 3rd party apps like PDANet but to no avail.
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
Please note, I have only used this radio for a short while and I might've missed some things! I think this is a very nice radio though and since it is the first model and only out for a week or so now I think there will be some updates from Parrot's side, perhaps expanding the capabilities of this device. The only major drawback is the lack of internet connectivity if you have an Android phone. This is not Parrot's fault though but rather Google's. I heard though that Honeycomb supports Bluetooth PAN and I think the Asteroid supports this for Internet tethering so i'm keeping my hopes up for Android Icecream to bring this feature to my phone.
Pro:
- Lots sources for music: Radio, USB stick, SD Card, iPod, 3.5mm Jack line-in
- Android with Google Maps
- Speed camera Alerts
- Large screen (for a single DIN radio unit)
- Lots of cables came with the Radio (With a Pioneer your need to buy overpriced iPod cables separately)
- Its a handsfree carkit, and Parrot knows how to make those by now
- Lots of tweaking possible with the sound
Con:
- Internet does not work with Android phones (yet)
- Lacks certain tweaking possibilities in the settings menu
Feel free to ask any questions
Thank you for the excellent review.
Those drawbacks are major issues,
but Im hoping Parrot will come up with some patches
soon.
The Asteroid is not on sale here yet, and it might take a while.
But I am going to Holland later this month..
Anyone know a place close to Schiphol that sell Parrot equipment?
I also have the Parrot Asteroid for a few days now. But I can't get thetering trough Bluetooth working on my HTC Desire Z (Android 2.2).
I used an app called "PdaNet" or something, with that I can enalbe "Dun - Dia-up Network". And I can make a connection with the parrort trough Settings > Network > Bluetooth. But as soon as I try to use an application that uses internet, it won't work and says I need a internet connection.
Anyone know how I can use DUN or PAN, because an Asteroid doesn't have WiFi and can't tether trough USB ??
Thanx!
RobertR21,
Android does currently not support PAN or DUN so using that is probably not possible without any 3rd party software. I tried PDAnet aswell but it did not work.
You might try connecting your phone to the 3G dongle port on your asteroid through USB, as android supports USB tethering, I have not tried this myself. I can verify though that DUN works, I tried it with my Nokia and it worked flawlessly.
I hear there's rumours on the Internets though that Android icecream is going to support PAN though, so maybe then we can use our android phones. Maybe before that time Parrot will find a solution.
Does anyone know which 3g USB dongles work with the Asteroid?
In my case: I have a Trekstor/Huawei MiFi which can also be used as a "Stick" - Will this work via USB? My Asteroid Device ships in (wish me luck) tomorrow. Pimpin' my Ride is planned at Saturday ;-)
ThX
Hi, I've got the this Parrot Asteriod also.
And For you guys I can use bluetooth internet though my old HTC Hero. I can do it also with other phones. but there is a trick for it.
First root your phone, this is absolutely nessasary.
Then download from the market 'Wireless Tether for root users'(it is a free app).
This one has internet tethering through bluetooth.
Go to menu and select bluetooth instead of wifi.
then go to access-control and eneble it.
Make the bluetooth visible in the tether program.
On the asteroid go to setting and then network and then bluetooth is will find your phone(again) and press the nice parrot butten and it connects.
then on your phone again give it authorization to use the tether and you have your internet.
One problem is that you have to connect manually every time. (your carkit does it automaticly) but not the internet. But at least you can then enjoy your live radio and google maps if you want to.
You only have to have the tether active and connect only through the radio other steps are not needed anymore after.
Internet through usb with your doesn't work, to bad.
One issue that I've encountered with this radio the front panel will become pretty hot after playing an half hour on a high volume. does anyone else have this problem also?
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available?
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market?
- What Android version is installed?
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?)
Greetings
karlv
Dysphoria said:
Furthermore I found that the device lacks some tweaking capabilities. For example, when i'm navigating my contacts from my phone, the device tries to "read" the contacts for me using text-to-speech. I've found no way to turn this off. Furthermore I could find no option in the settings to turn off the traffic announcements from radio. The device now switches to radio when i'm listening to music from my SD card to bring me the traffic information (Which can be skipped by pressing the "back" button). Finally, the device came with a Dutch language setting and i've found no way to turn this to English, which is the language I prefer.
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For disablieng the traffic information go to tuner, select a radio station then press the menu button there you can edit if you want traffic information on or of.
text to speech, try the menu button in the app contacts you can change it there. I like that so I didn't look at it yet.
The most options regarding a app can be found in the app it self. try to look for tweaking option there.
karlv said:
Hi,
I am also considering getting an Asteroid. I have several questions:
- Is there also offline navigation available? NO, not yet at least
- Can any app from the normal market be installed? Or is there a special Parrot market? Special Parrot market, apps that are avaible can be found on the parrot site then put on usb stick and then install.
- What Android version is installed? Android 1.5
- Anyway to root it? (What ever functionality this would add?) No, maybe also later.
Greetings
karlv
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Everyone can correct me if I'm wrong
anyone already tried getting in touch with the radios file system?
I assume those usb ports only are usb hosts?
there's a new firmware out:
http://download.parrot.com/Parrot_Asteroid_soft_update/asteroid_update_fr_FR.plf
It's nearly 90 MB, so it looks as a complete android software build.
can we get this extracted? modders, come on
EDIT:
there exist some plftools for other Parrot Devices. Maybe they can be used to extract useful stuff out of the Asteroid firmware files...
Links:
http://embedded-software.blogspot.c...howComment=1311293537224#c8852365956008835373
http://sites.google.com/site/repurposelinux/df3120
EDIT2:
part of the firmware update file:
parrotparts=nand0:256K(Pbootloader),16M(Pmain_boot),4M(Pfactory),241408K(Psystem) console=ttyPA0,115200 loglevel=8 update
maybe it is possible to divide the plf file into parts and mount them somehow? (http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=478.0)
EDIT3:
Serial output of AR Drone Update, wich also uses plf update files and is based on linux:
http://kapejod.org/download/ardrone_install.txt
Each time I use Mi6 via bluetooth in car to answer/make calls - first call goes OK, and all others not - people I talk to don't hear me. It happena in 4 different cars so it's not car's problem. Mi5 was OK. I run 7.1.1 NMF26X global beta. miui 8 7.6.8 global beta. And can't solve it myself. Tried deleting and re-adding cars, restarted phone - nothing helped. When I switch to phone during call - it's OK. As soon as I switch back to car - same problem. No one hears me and I hear everyone.
Any1?
I'm sorry but I can't test because I don't have any Bluetooth devices.
Not using any bluetooth device either.
Hello there
I'm a new xiaomi mi6 user. I have 7.5.25 version rom installed on my phone. My phone does not see andriod wear app on my smart clock with bluetooth. Also does not share internet with hotspot. There is also a problem with the GPS, the satellites can not find it immediately. can you help me.
Thank you
ERSL said:
Hello there
I'm a new xiaomi mi6 user. I have 7.5.25 version rom installed on my phone. My phone does not see andriod wear app on my smart clock with bluetooth. Also does not share internet with hotspot. There is also a problem with the GPS, the satellites can not find it immediately. can you help me.
Thank you
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Ok, one by one.
1. My phone does not see andriod wear app on my smart clock with bluetooth --> My watch works, did you unpair your watch with old phone first? Android wear watch can only connect to 1 phone.
2. There's personal hotspot, you can see it in the settings menu.
3. GPS needs time to find your phone, you need to have wifi (or mobile data connection to assist the phone), if it located your phone, next time GPS will work faster.
It is a different issue with me: when paired with a BT device with the "phone audio" profile enabled, despite picking up the call on via pressing the green button on the touchscreen, it still defaults to the BT device (and I have to switch audio back to "phone" before the other person cuts off after hearing nothing). This is on the global ROM 8.2.2.0...
The global ROM seems buggy as hell...
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Hello Friend.
The same happens to me.
It connects to bluetooth but I have no output or audio input.
Did you get it fixed?
Thank you
Everyone.
This is not xiaomi's problem.
This problem is due to oreo's new bluetooth stack.
There is no current solution to this. I've searched far, wide and deep.
Android has a great track record in keeping the bluetooth stack broken.
If you try to search google, you will find out that not only xiaomi phones have this problem.
The only theoretical solution is to port old bluetooth blobs, and somehow make it work. But as far as i know, no one has done this before.
There is hope that android pie will fix this. But from what i read, early builds of pie still has this problem.
Hi all,
just a simple question - had anybody succeeded with MirrorLink? And with full phone mirroring (not just with the limited number of apps allowed)? If so, how? My A320FL is updated to the latest available Android 6.0.1, then rooted.
I tried several apps and guides together with two cars (Toyota & Skoda) with no success:
1) Samsung CarMode - the latest available from the market is not the latest, as I found somewhere here, but anyway: it doesn't do anything with Skoda and does show "Your phone is connected through MirrorLink" when connected with Toyota Touch 2, but shows nothing on the display. No option to start it is displayed on Toyota display, Skoda Amundsen says "no compatible app found".
2) LG MirrorDrive - does not even start, but it's shown as compatible app in Skoda. And once, I got the display in portrait mode shown on Skoda display for few seconds.
3) Android Auto - even though it's not accessible in my country (don't know why), I installed the latest version, but it is possible to start this app only on the phone, no car sees it.
check this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-TNAXxFqDw&t
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check this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-TNAXxFqDw&t
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Thanks for idea, but it's unfortunately not the right thing - this deals with app flickering when the phone is already connected via MirrorLink. In my case, I don't see anything related to phone display on the car's display. In the meantime, I found out, that the possible problem could be system incompatibility - Samsung supports only MirrorLink 1.1 and Toyota is MirrorLink 1.0 (that's why all the videos online with Toyota are shown with the old S3). I also found out, that Samsung dropped the backward compatibility on Bluetooth, so i.e. old integrated handsfree in 2007 Yaris is now unusable. Shame on Samsung, did those people ever see a car?
Finally, got it working. But not thanks only to myself
The first is thanks to Toyota - there has to be at least HE3934 firmware version loaded (that I found out only when trying to make the mirrorlink running in a new Yaris).
The second is, that in phone, only one mirrorlink app is allowed and it shall be LG MirrorDrive for make it running in Toyota (Samsung CarMode app supports only VW group vehicles - possibly because they provide VW with the whole infotainment and related electronics).
The third and most important is the cable - it has to be a cable that "somehow" supports mirrorlink - Samsung original cable is ok, but I firstly tested it with another "noname" cable, which works only sometimes. Only during longer continuous driving period I found out, that the "impossible to connect" periods happen when the phone and cable shake - maybe some contact is doubled in the original cable.
As last I need to say, that LG MirrorDrive mirrors any running app, but after you run an app, mirroring quits with message, that the function is not available during driving. But it starts the app in background anyway, so when you run LG MirrorDrive on the infotainment again (without disconnecting or anyhow touching the phone), the system opens directly in the app you started before. It's also good to turn off the notifications for LG MirrorDrive, as it shows a message about incompatibility every time it's started.
So I hope that the lines above help also somebody else.
Can a samsung a3 2017 screen mirror? If yes then how please??
... but only working with nougat. Android 8 not working any more. ?
Please send me