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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/galaxy-nexus-discussions/10025-galaxy-nexus-review.html
Thanks for the link pretty good review
Battery life (Even on 3G) seems poor according to his review. Then again, I'm not sure what his definition of "heavy usage" means compared to mine.
LeanNSupreme said:
Battery life (Even on 3G) seems poor according to his review. Then again, I'm not sure what his definition of "heavy usage" means compared to mine.
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Yeah. I feel your pain. I know there have been a couple threads with the title something like "The Battery Life Of My LTE GN Will Be Awesome" or some such but in my roadtesting of the intial version of LTE it just EATS the battery on everything I've tried. Thunderbolt, Charge, whatever, it's just wishful thinking. (Not that I blame you LTE guys, I really, really want to be wrong.) It's actually what stops me from jumping to Verizon. Hopefully the bugs will be worked out by the time A/B rolls out.
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Battery life (Even on 3G) seems poor according to his review. Then again, I'm not sure what his definition of "heavy usage" means compared to mine.
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Its all about how you use it. Battery life is so subjective its hard to tell till you get it in your hands.
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Yeah. I feel your pain. I know there have been a couple threads with the title something like "The Battery Life Of My LTE GN Will Be Awesome" or some such but in my roadtesting of the intial version of LTE it just EATS the battery on everything I've tried. Thunderbolt, Charge, whatever, it's just wishful thinking. (Not that I blame you LTE guys, I really, really want to be wrong.) It's actually what stops me from jumping to Verizon. Hopefully the bugs will be worked out by the time A/B rolls out.
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That's the fault of the first generation LTE chips being used. Not only are they large but they also use way more power than the second generation chips expected sometime next year.
How is it that reviews are already popping up for the LTE version but it hasn't even passed through the FCC yet?
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How is it that reviews are already popping up for the LTE version but it hasn't even passed through the FCC yet?
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Promo or Demo phones, maybe?
am i blind or did just skip the camera altogether?
" Whereas previous Samsung devices I have used have been a mix of plastic and glass screen, this is a better build.*"
Uh... is the nexus made of hopes and dreams instead?
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LeanNSupreme said:
Battery life (Even on 3G) seems poor according to his review. Then again, I'm not sure what his definition of "heavy usage" means compared to mine.
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1) He got 10 hours of "heavy usage" on 3g.
2) It really takes a week or two weeks to get the battery warmed up IMO. None of the review sites factor this in. For example, when I got my Nexus S, I got 6 to 8 hours on a charge at first. But after two weeks (and still today) I go a whole day (14 hour or more) very often.
(snif) actual screencaptures and not blurry photos. Thanks p3!
Battery life seems worrying. Still trying to decide whether to import it or just go with Verizon... and if the LTE can't last a day I'm not sure that will work for me.
Does 'heavy use' mean constant browsing? Video playback? Games? More detail would be nice.
Vash63 said:
Battery life seems worrying. Still trying to decide whether to import it or just go with Verizon... and if the LTE can't last a day I'm not sure that will work for me.
Does 'heavy use' mean constant browsing? Video playback? Games? More detail would be nice.
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I'm in the same boat you are in bro, I was thinking of importing one from the UK to use on T-Mobile but I don't know if I want to drop $750 , so I was thinking of switching to Verizon for the Gnex, but I'm worried about the battery. I hear LTE murders batteries ... so I'm definitely on the fence right now
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LTE just seems utterly pointless at this stage. If the battery life is good with 3G/HSPA then it's all good. They shouldn't have bothered with the LTE radio until they become more efficient or battery tech improves.
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LTE just seems utterly pointless at this stage. If the battery life is good with 3G/HSPA then it's all good. They shouldn't have bothered with the LTE radio until they become more efficient or battery tech improves.
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They have a switch to turn off LTE right? I'm not currently on Verizon so I don't know
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The reviewer said that the Google Search bar is permanent on the home screens in the launcher?
I hope that is not true. I understand it replaces the search button on the bottom but... shouldn't we have the option to customize our home screens precisely how we want to? =O
And what about Nexus S devices when they get Ice Cream Sandwich. Does that mean they'll have the capacitive search button on the bottom, plus the permanent search bar on the home screen?
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The reviewer said that the Google Search bar is permanent on the home screens in the launcher?
I hope that is not true. I understand it replaces the search button on the bottom but... shouldn't we have the option to customize our home screens precisely how we want to? =O
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Believe this is true. Its there just like on honeycomb.
And what about Nexus S devices when they get Ice Cream Sandwich. Does that mean they'll have the capacitive search button on the bottom, plus the permanent search bar on the home screen?
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Don't know. FWIW it doesn't take up as much room as a normal 4x1 widget.
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Believe this is true. Its there just like on honeycomb.
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Yeah, I suppose that's not a major deal, but... that does take away some customizing choices from the user, especially those (like me) who prefer minimalistic wallpapers/home screens.
Damn.
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They have a switch to turn off LTE right? I'm not currently on Verizon so I don't know
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I believe it's along the same lines as Sprint's WiMAX. 4G destroyed my battery on the Evo, so I only ever turned it on for downloads or streams - if not, just turn it off.
I have had the phone, bought from phones 4U contract free for the past few days and i wanted to give my views for people who may be undecided if it is a sound purchase. Just for the record i still have my iPhone 4 & Desire HD, so i am not biased.....
I was unsure about the form factor when reading the specs, but the lack of hardware buttons means it is literally 95% screen real estate, the display is a thing of beauty. I know others have reported colour issues, but i have not had problems with yellow hue. Or any other display issues. It also feels light but sturdy, i'm sure you will have seen the scratch test video. I'm confident that the screen will stay scratch free unless i drop it (To be fair i will probably drop it)
ICS - It is a great update for android. People have commented about it not being intuitive or user friendly. I spent the first few hours setting things up and finding my way around the OS and while it takes some getting used to it is far better than gingerbread. It is of course biased to Google+ - people who have concerns about not being able to sync their facebook contact pictures should use "syncmypix" it has done a great job populating my phonebook pictures. I have had some force closes, and apps from the market do need an update due to some compatibility issues. As this is a software issue i am not concerned. I would like to add that the face unlock is actually very good. I set the "gimmick unlock" to test it, and it has proved to be more than adequate for day to day use. It does not work in low light, but again hardly a surprise.
GPS is also excellent on the phone seeing a connection established nearly instantly.
I must be missing something with the connecting to other hardware issue. I guess people use their smartphones differently, but from my point of view i connect my phone to my PC to transfer files back and forth and sometimes tether my laptop to use the internet. Both of these things work fine and quickly, so i am clearly missing the issue.
The camera: Ok, the camera isn't going to set the world on fire. In the right lighting it takes a pretty decent snap, but if you are looking for a phone with a heavy emphasis on photos it probably isnt for you. No software updates will change that. I do like the instant shutter speed and it comes with some nice effects.
The battery: Hmmmm the jury is out on the battery. I usually like to cycle the battery over a few days till it settles down, i can then make a valid comment. So far though the battery is giving me approx 12 hours of use, i would consider myself a heavy user (It's a new phone and i'm playing with it lots)
Overall - If you love tech, and are an early adopter it's a great phone. The OS is lightening fast and the display is great. If you want something that 'Just works' i would hold on.
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
Please feel free to ask anything about the phone, or if you would like me to try something out just let me know.
Cheers
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I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
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are you even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault?
If you are not on O2, Vodafone, giffgaff, or Tesco Mobile...then you wouldn't experience the fault. Please give more info about what network you're with.
*sigh of relief* as I'm on Three I hope I won't develop these problems, as there's no 2G to switch to.
OP: good review, mainly mirrors my sentiments.
rikbrown said:
*sigh of relief* as I'm on Three I hope I won't develop these problems, as there's no 2G to switch to.
OP: good review, mainly mirrors my sentiments.
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actually 3 does have 2G connectivity via Orange albeit dwindling down. Either way, both 3UK and Orange do not use 900MHz frequency band for their 2G service.
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actually 3 does have 2G connectivity via Orange albeit dwindling down. Either way, both 3UK and Orange do not use 900MHz frequency band for their 2G service.
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Oh TIL . But fine, good to hear that.
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are you even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault?
If you are not on O2, Vodafone, giffgaff, or Tesco Mobile...then you wouldn't experience the fault. Please give more info about what network you're with.
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Yes i am even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault. I have used my O2 sim for a few hours at a time over the weekend and have not seen the fault yet. I am primarily on T-Mobile.
Others may not be aware of the conditions that trigger the fault, so thanks for posting up the link.
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The battery: Hmmmm the jury is out on the battery. I usually like to cycle the battery over a few days till it settles down, i can then make a valid comment. So far though the battery is giving me approx 12 hours of use, i would consider myself a heavy user (It's a new phone and i'm playing with it lots)
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
Cheers
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Good to know about the battery. I've heard many bad things about the battery life, so it's good to know that yours is lasting as long as one would expect.
Please post what operator you're one so that we can determine if it's all handsets that are being plagued by the volume problems, or just some or most.
I'm with Optus in Australia and I'm fairly certain that they operate on the 900Mhz GSM frequency
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Good to know about the battery. I've heard many bad things about the battery life, so it's good to know that yours is lasting as long as one would expect.
Please post what operator you're one so that we can determine if it's all handsets that are being plagued by the volume problems, or just some or most.
I'm with Optus in Australia and I'm fairly certain that they operate on the 900Mhz GSM frequency
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Hello
I'm on T mobile for the majority of the time. But do use my O2 sim and have tested it with both. Over the next few days im sure a clearer picture will emerge regarding the problem.
Thanks for the review. My contract is up and I keep going back and forth between wanting this phone and waiting for CM9 or some other ICS based ROM to drop for my dinc.
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Yes i am even aware of the conditions that trigger the fault. I have used my O2 sim for a few hours at a time over the weekend and have not seen the fault yet. I am primarily on T-Mobile.
Others may not be aware of the conditions that trigger the fault, so thanks for posting up the link.
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so then you are not going to encounter the fault. Would've helped if you had made mention of this in your original post.
Niksko said:
Good to know about the battery. I've heard many bad things about the battery life, so it's good to know that yours is lasting as long as one would expect.
Please post what operator you're one so that we can determine if it's all handsets that are being plagued by the volume problems, or just some or most.
I'm with Optus in Australia and I'm fairly certain that they operate on the 900Mhz GSM frequency
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I am pretty unimpressed with the battery personally. Since coming off charge at 8am this morning (now almost 2pm) I'm on 55%. 49% screen 21% Android OS apparently. Light use.
rikbrown said:
I am pretty unimpressed with the battery personally. Since coming off charge at 8am this morning (now almost 2pm) I'm on 55%. 49% screen 21% Android OS apparently. Light use.
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That is poor. Are you using live wallpapers? Is the screen brightness on auto or manual, and lastly how many charges has it been through?
Good Review - Thank you
Thank you for taking the time to write that review.
Some obviously don't appreciate the time you took to do one, but i do. it makes me more sure i want to buy it
Thank you
mhbr12742 said:
Thank you for taking the time to write that review.
Some obviously don't appreciate the time you took to do one, but i do. it makes me more sure i want to buy it
Thank you
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Thanks for your comments. I guess some people are upset about the volume issue, and are venting. I'm glad the review was of some use to you....
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That is poor. Are you using live wallpapers? Is the screen brightness on auto or manual, and lastly how many charges has it been through?
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Screen brightness auto. No live wallpapers. Two full charges. One gmail account on push and one Exchange on push. I browsed Reddit for about 10-15minutes after waking up and that saw the battery down about 6% or so.
Since then I listened to Spotify on the walk to work (15mins). I've replied to some texts, installed/used a network Speed Test app once, showed the camera to a friend and took a panorama. And played with a few settings. Nothing intensive.
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Screen on time 1h9m. 6h1m49s on battery.
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I am pretty unimpressed with the battery personally. Since coming off charge at 8am this morning (now almost 2pm) I'm on 55%. 49% screen 21% Android OS apparently. Light use.
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Well that's 12 hours (till empty) with the screen on almost 50%. Not bad.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
Thanks for the review - I really appreciate the time you put into it. I wondered if you think it is worth paying £100 pounds + more for this handset or go for the tried and tested the GS2 which is due to get the ICS upgrade at some point....There seem to be a few p'd off people leaving comments all over this forum regarding this phone.
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I have had the phone, bought from phones 4U contract free for the past few days and i wanted to give my views for people who may be undecided if it is a sound purchase. Just for the record i still have my iPhone 4 & Desire HD, so i am not biased.....
I was unsure about the form factor when reading the specs, but the lack of hardware buttons means it is literally 95% screen real estate, the display is a thing of beauty. I know others have reported colour issues, but i have not had problems with yellow hue. Or any other display issues. It also feels light but sturdy, i'm sure you will have seen the scratch test video. I'm confident that the screen will stay scratch free unless i drop it (To be fair i will probably drop it)
ICS - It is a great update for android. People have commented about it not being intuitive or user friendly. I spent the first few hours setting things up and finding my way around the OS and while it takes some getting used to it is far better than gingerbread. It is of course biased to Google+ - people who have concerns about not being able to sync their facebook contact pictures should use "syncmypix" it has done a great job populating my phonebook pictures. I have had some force closes, and apps from the market do need an update due to some compatibility issues. As this is a software issue i am not concerned. I would like to add that the face unlock is actually very good. I set the "gimmick unlock" to test it, and it has proved to be more than adequate for day to day use. It does not work in low light, but again hardly a surprise.
GPS is also excellent on the phone seeing a connection established nearly instantly.
I must be missing something with the connecting to other hardware issue. I guess people use their smartphones differently, but from my point of view i connect my phone to my PC to transfer files back and forth and sometimes tether my laptop to use the internet. Both of these things work fine and quickly, so i am clearly missing the issue.
The camera: Ok, the camera isn't going to set the world on fire. In the right lighting it takes a pretty decent snap, but if you are looking for a phone with a heavy emphasis on photos it probably isnt for you. No software updates will change that. I do like the instant shutter speed and it comes with some nice effects.
The battery: Hmmmm the jury is out on the battery. I usually like to cycle the battery over a few days till it settles down, i can then make a valid comment. So far though the battery is giving me approx 12 hours of use, i would consider myself a heavy user (It's a new phone and i'm playing with it lots)
Overall - If you love tech, and are an early adopter it's a great phone. The OS is lightening fast and the display is great. If you want something that 'Just works' i would hold on.
I HAVE NOT HAD THE VOLUME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS HAVE COMMENTED ON. LITERALLY NOT ONCE.
Please feel free to ask anything about the phone, or if you would like me to try something out just let me know.
Cheers
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player911 said:
Well that's 12 hours (till empty) with the screen on almost 50%. Not bad.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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Actual screen on time was 1h9m for 6h1m49s on battery. The % was where the battery was going (as displayed in the battery part of Settings).
I guess it's okay, but I'm used to a lot higher from my previous iPhone 4 and HTC Radar. But I guess they also didn't have 4.65" 720p displays
I've turned off Exchange push for now, as I don't really care about getting work emails on it anyway. Will see if that improves things, as read some vague topics saying that Exchange is a battery hog.
player911 said:
Well that's 12 hours (till empty) with the screen on almost 50%. Not bad.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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If one is considering the total screen on time, its actually about 2 hrs 18 min. (Double of 1hr 9 min). The % isn't measured according to time.
@rikbrown: Thanks for the tests and info!
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If one is considering the total screen on time, its actually about 2 hrs 18 min. (Double of 1hr 9 min). The % isn't measured according to time.
@rikbrown: Thanks for the tests and info!
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No problem. I've posted a topic to get others' opinions/battery life experiences, so I can stop hijacking this review thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356581
A couple of things that I would like to see on custom ROMS
SVoice. First of all I really don't care about SVoice. But I find pretty cool that when alarm rings you can just say "snooze" instead of wondering in the dark where is your phone.
Eye tracking to keep screen on
Direct call
Auto tagging of photos
Is this possible for the ROM developers? I mean the hardware is there, right?
matrixlord said:
A couple of things that I would like to see on custom ROMS
SVoice. First of all I really don't care about SVoice. But I find pretty cool that when alarm rings you can just say "snooze" instead of wondering in the dark where is your phone.
Eye tracking to keep screen on
Direct call
Auto tagging of photos
Is this possible for the ROM developers? I mean the hardware is there, right?
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The screen on eye tracking I would love.
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There are a few random threads about some of these features. Basically if what I read in them are correct we will need a port of the new TouchWiz. And it hasn't been released yet so its not available to port.
Eye tracking is going to be such a battery drain, LOL.
Running a big screen and FFC together throughout the day is going to be a killer.
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Eye tracking is going to be such a battery drain, LOL.
Running a big screen and FFC together throughout the day is going to be a killer.
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Don't worry! They put a 2150 MAh battery in that thing, it should last a couple days.
miketoasty said:
Don't worry! They put a 2150 MAh battery in that thing, it should last a couple days.
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................ -_-
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miketoasty said:
Don't worry! They put a 2150 MAh battery in that thing, it should last a couple days.
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I heard u'll be able to power ur refrigerator out of that monster battery and still keep those 2 days of use
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Don't worry! They put a 2150 MAh battery in that thing, it should last a couple days.
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I dont agree with this statement (my 2100mAh extended battery gets me between 2-3 hours screen on time), and dont find it relative to the SGN.
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I dont agree with this statement (my 2100mAh extended battery gets me between 2-3 hours screen on time), and dont find it relative to the SGN.
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You might want to call in warranty support on your sarcasm detector.
adrynalyne said:
You might want to call in warranty support on your sarcasm detector.
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I've seen too many people say they get 2 days on this battery to write the statement off as sarcasm. *hangs head*
I have the official 2000mAh battery for my gsm GNex and I get around 6 hrs screen time on auto brightness.
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So, you get twice the battery life I do?
Most of these features are like Face-Unlock. Do you actually use it? I've used it ONCE just to show off to my iPhone friends.
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Smokeey said:
Most of these features are like Face-Unlock. Do you actually use it? I've used it ONCE just to show off to my iPhone friends.
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Lol, same. Forgot it was even a feature until my sister was interested.
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So, you get twice the battery life I do?
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I also have the 2000maH battery and I get around 5 to 5 and a half hours screen on time on auto brightness. I've noticed a massive difference compared to my stock battery.
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SocialReject said:
Lol, same. Forgot it was even a feature until my sister was interested.
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Ya, it's just fancy marketing ****. Nothing special.
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There are a few random threads about some of these features. Basically if what I read in them are correct we will need a port of the new TouchWiz. And it hasn't been released yet so its not available to port.
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I was afraid for something like that...I don't like AOSPless interfaces but I am open to the new TouchWiz. If I find a ported ROM, I will definitely try it. I guess we have to wait a month+ to see something though.
Take a look at this article! I've been praying for something like this for a long time!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57543673-1/tech-breakthrough-may-double-smartphone-life/
RaymondPJR said:
Take a look at this article! I've been praying for something like this for a long time!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57543673-1/tech-breakthrough-may-double-smartphone-life/
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Just the tech I want to see. Especially if they couple it with an improved battery tech.
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That's awesome! Gotta love some of the genius that comes out of MIT! (Still kinda wish I woulda gone there myself!)
Add that to the bandwidth tech they've developed and...well...awesome just isn't quite descriptive enough!
For those that didn't see it before, we had briefly discussed this in the modem thread.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545014/mit-researchers-increase-bandwidth-coded-tcp
Credit to Raymond for finding this article too! Just thought they should both be highlighted here!
Thanks for sharing the finds man! I can't wait to see what can be done with this stuff, or to find out what the MIT geniuses are working on next! I agree some battery improvements would just turn these devices into awe-inspiring beasts!
Though just a quick note that the two techs in these articles would alone greatly increase battery life!
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DocHoliday77 said:
That's awesome! Gotta love some of the genius that comes out of MIT! (Still kinda wish I woulda gone there myself!)
Add that to the bandwidth tech they've developed and...well...awesome just isn't quite descriptive enough!
For those that didn't see it before, we had briefly discussed this in the modem thread.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545014/mit-researchers-increase-bandwidth-coded-tcp
Credit to Raymond for finding this article too! Just thought they should both be highlighted here!
Thanks for sharing the finds man! I can't wait to see what can be done with this stuff, or to find out what the MIT geniuses are working on next! I agree some battery improvements would just turn these devices into awe-inspiring beasts!
Though just a quick note that the two techs in these articles would alone greatly increase battery life!
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Thanks guys! Yeah this is all great news and btw Doc i have found your threads some of the most informative Ive come across on XDA.
The part that makes me sad is acknowledging that nothing I is benefiting from this tech.
tdizzle404 said:
Thanks guys! Yeah this is all great news and btw Doc i have found your threads some of the most informative Ive come across on XDA.
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I love doc
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Wonder how many chips we have in our phones
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DocHoliday77 said:
That's awesome! Gotta love some of the genius that comes out of MIT! (Still kinda wish I woulda gone there myself!)
Add that to the bandwidth tech they've developed and...well...awesome just isn't quite descriptive enough!
For those that didn't see it before, we had briefly discussed this in the modem thread.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545014/mit-researchers-increase-bandwidth-coded-tcp
Credit to Raymond for finding this article too! Just thought they should both be highlighted here!
Thanks for sharing the finds man! I can't wait to see what can be done with this stuff, or to find out what the MIT geniuses are working on next! I agree some battery improvements would just turn these devices into awe-inspiring beasts!
Though just a quick note that the two techs in these articles would alone greatly increase battery life!
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Thank you so much, I read through Flipboard pretty much every day, lol! TMOB had better be in on both of these whenever they are readily available or I'll leave them! Of the two, I am most exited about the battery tech. Battery technology has been lagging while everything else has improved by leaps and bounds. I'm already in awe of the developers and development that happens here as well as researchers from MIT and anywhere else!
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Thank you so much, I read through Flipboard pretty much every day, lol! TMOB had better be in on both of these whenever they are readily available or I'll leave them! Of the two, I am most exited about the battery tech. Battery technology has been lagging while everything else has improved by leaps and bounds. I'm already in awe of the developers and development that happens here as well as researchers from MIT and anywhere else!
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I hope tmobiles on board too! The article about the bandwidth tech mentioned that there were already a few companies signed on, so I'm hoping!
I would guess that since both are MIT related (one said it was an offshoot from MIT) that anyone in on one, could easily be at least looking into the other.
Though now that I'm thinking about it, the life doubling tech would more likely be picked up by manufacturers than the carriers. Lets just hope Sammy goes after it! (And pray that apple doesn't decide to steal....I mean patent it themselves!)
(No id rather not get into that discussion! There's a thread for that! Just a quick jab is all! )
As for battery tech, who knows what they're up to. At this point id just like to see more widespread use of the LiPo (Lithium-Polymer) batteries. As far as Im aware they've sorted out most of the problems and they are superior to Li-Ion batteries in every way! Some smartphones already ship with them, but last I looked they were a pretty rare thing for replacements.
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...(And pray that apple doesn't decide to steal....I mean patent it themselves!)
(No id rather not get into that discussion! There's a thread for that! Just a quick jab is all! )
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Lol, funny! Just read the other day they had to post another apology in Europe because it was a non-apology, then they were slapped with another order to post it again in a larger font, so what they did was use some Javascript that only rendered the main portion of the page no matter what resolution you were using meaning anyone had to scroll down to see the apology. They are looking really bad lately and it's sad.
As for battery tech, who knows what they're up to. At this point id just like to see more widespread use of the LiPo (Lithium-Polymer) batteries. As far as Im aware they've sorted out most of the problems and they are superior to Li-Ion batteries in every way! Some smartphones already ship with them, but last I looked they were a pretty rare thing for replacements.
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Never heard of Lithium-Polymer batteries, I'm going to google it as soon as I get my phone reconfigured. I just flashed Wicked V7 today.
One of the things that makes em really cool is they are shapeable...if that's even a word! So rather than being constrained to a certain shape cell you could theoretically have something like the case itself be the battery. They are also supposed to have longer life both in number if cycles and runtime between cycles. Initially they were kind if unstable and could lead to leaks or even fire or explosion. I think I've heard that a lot of the issues have been solved though.
They can be smaller, lighter, stronger, and the fact they can be made to just about any shape means it could open a whole new area if design for all sorts of stuff!
I'm going off memory on all of this so if I got something wrong I apologize, byt I'm oretty sure I'm remembering pretty accurately.
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"more than 65 percent of its energy"
The "its" part of that sentence is referring to the single or multiple chips themselves, not the entire phone. So, this will increase the efficiency of that particular chip and only while in standby mode. I don't see how this would increase the phones battery life by 50% since cell standby is always very low on the list of things that consume my battery. Unless you count when I leave it unplugged and go to bed, for those 6 hours cell standby is top of the list. But, how often do we do that, and do we care about how long we can leave is unused? I think this will help save the broadcast stations some decent power, but as far as our battery life goes, I think its a lot of hype for nothing.
Let's say these chips do increase the efficiency from say 35% to 100%. Also, lets say cell standby uses 10% of your battery. I'm pretty sure mine is often less than that, but I will start recording this # more closely. That translates to an overall power consumption change of 6.5%... worth doing, but not worth phone users getting excited about.
I should also point out that the new chips cannot possibly increase efficiency to 100%, and I did not take into account the power use of the newly added chip because I have no idea how much power it will consume. Both of those things will cause the 6.5% to decrease, but without more detailed information on the chip I cannot even speculate as to how much.
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"more than 65 percent of its energy"
The "its" part of that sentence is referring to the single or multiple chips themselves, not the entire phone. So, this will increase the efficiency of that particular chip and only while in standby mode. I don't see how this would increase the phones battery life by 50% since cell standby is always very low on the list of things that consume my battery. Unless you count when I leave it unplugged and go to bed, for those 6 hours cell standby is top of the list. But, how often do we do that, and do we care about how long we can leave is unused? I think this will help save the broadcast stations some decent power, but as far as our battery life goes, I think its a lot of hype for nothing.
Let's say these chips do increase the efficiency from say 35% to 100%. Also, lets say cell standby uses 10% of your battery. I'm pretty sure mine is often less than that, but I will start recording this # more closely. That translates to an overall power consumption change of 6.5%... worth doing, but not worth phone users getting excited about.
I should also point out that the new chips cannot possibly increase efficiency to 100%, and I did not take into account the power use of the newly added chip because I have no idea how much power it will consume. Both of those things will cause the 6.5% to decrease, but without more detailed information on the chip I cannot even speculate as to how much.
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...and the only way to make it more efficient is by reducing the power used in standby. However, signals can be distorted if moving from a low standby mode to high power, so current technologies keep standby levels fairly high. That wastes electricity and is partly what causes smartphone owners to recharge their devices multiple times a day.
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It seems to me this sentence refers to existing technology-the current state of affairs, not to this new discovery. We'll just have to wait and see.
This is just a little bit off topic for Android.....But it is just too cool not to share!
This is what happens when I try to research stuff using Google! I get a little sidetracked!
All I can say is, wow! Imagine your smartphone having this as a feature!!!!
You gotta love MIT!
http://youtu.be/SoHeWgLvlXI
Its a camera!
How is it possible my pixel4xl is getting more sot than my s20ultra? IDK, think the s20ultra is a big fail with the sht camera, and now this horrendous batt life. What a bummer.
Lol, not even a full battery cycle before the complaining begins. SMH
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This vztech person was complaining about the phone in preorder threads even before he/she got it. Some people are just out to trash something instead of trying to enjoy it. I would take what she/he says with a grain of salt.
Really thought this guy packed and returned that phone already. Complaints about everything.
Come on man, just return the phone already since you are so unsatisfied about it.
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This vztech person was complaining about the phone in preorder threads even before he/she got it. Some people are just out to trash something instead of trying to enjoy it. I would take what she/he says with a grain of salt.
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more like 50lb bag of salt:highfive:
Please don’t feed the troll....
Godforbid Samsung fanboys get butthurt. Just stating facts.
Pixel...you bought one of those ROFL!!!
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Godforbid Samsung fanboys get butthurt. Just stating facts.
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You realize that by clicking on anyone's profile you can review their past posts. You've not said one positive thing about the S20U either before or after you received it. In most cases you piled on to other negative posts. That's your right but in doing so It's less about "butthurt" responses than it is folks questioning your credibility. You've got 14 or 15 days of remorse to return your phone. You'd be foolish to miss the window.
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Godforbid Samsung fanboys get butthurt. Just stating facts.
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Actually you haven't stated any fact. You gave a premature opinion about battery life. Your first few battery cycles WILL be less on ANY phone. The reason is you are downloading all your apps, your data, going thru setups, searching and playing differently than your current phone. Of Course the battery is going down faster. Not to mention it has been sitting in a whs for days or weeks without charge.
If you want to state an ACCURATE fact.... Go a week, multiple charge cycles... THEN make a determination on battery. Then you have some credibility on what you are taking about and not just whining to be whining!
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With posts like this Samsung will never put out 4k at 120hz. Maybe you should stick to iPhone dude.
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How is it possible my pixel4xl is getting more sot than my s20ultra? IDK, think the s20ultra is a big fail with the sht camera, and now this horrendous batt life. What a bummer.
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At least tell us what version, exynos?
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At least tell us what version, exynos?
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Snapdragon. I fully charged yesterday, installed all apps and settings. Fresh off charger this morning, my usual activity. Down to 50% with 2hrs sot
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Snapdragon. I fully charged yesterday, installed all apps and settings. Fresh off charger this morning, my usual activity. Down to 50% with 2hrs sot
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Post up battery info, please
dang i feel bad for this fellow.
chill guys, we are just feeding him anger. lol
but vztech you really should just return the phone and get refund
if you hate it that much.
its your decision man
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