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After months of happy hatchhiking, my Dash can no long connect to internet as of this morning. I'm in east coast US.
This cheap internet is the only reason I stayed with Tmobile. Guess it's time to pay attention to 3G iPhone news...
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After months of happy hatchhiking, my Dash can no long connect to internet as of this morning. I'm in east coast US.
This cheap internet is the only reason I stayed with Tmobile. Guess it's time to pay attention to 3G iPhone news...
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They cut me off long time ago. LOL. Like last year. I went to the $20 and never tried again.
I've been with Sprint for 7 years, mainly because of cost (I'm on Sero) and phones. That and I've always considered CDMA to be superior to GSM with regards to coverage. (in the US) But tonight I second guessed myself.
In my apartment, which is half underground, I need an airwave to get a decent signal from sprint. My girlfriend is visiting and for ****s and giggles I did a speed test on her atnt HTC inspire. Now I had heard people mock atnt's 4G network for not being true "4G," but with one bar of signal this phone is pulling 25mbs down and 6mbs up. Most of the time in my area I only get 3G and when I travel to the city next to mine the 4G is around 2mbs down.
I went to atnt's website and priced a plan similar to mine and it would end up costing me around $100 per month to get from atnt what I get for $60 from sprint. And thats not technically accurate since sprint gives us unlimited data. For that price difference I can't justify switching yet.
This phone is awesome and looks like it will be enough to hold me over for some time. (time as defined by a cell phone addict) The upcoming galaxy nexus may have a nice screen, but its raw power seems lacking compared to the SGS2. Which makes sense. The galaxy S series is samsung's flagship, the nexus series is google's flagship provided by samsung, who would get the better hardware? The only phone I see on the horizon right now that is a challenger (besides the S3 ofc) would be the samsung note. Now if I was going to go through the trouble of importing a phone (note will be only international initially it seems) and getting it to work on one of the carriers here, atnt would be the easiest option. If they made a CDMA international version with the right radio I could probably figure out or find/pay someone with the appropriate knowledge of CMDA workshop to get it working on sprint, but the alternative would be easier. I am an admitted sprint fanboy, but tonight is the first time in a while I actually priced out other options. I will probably stick out the rest of this contract (about two years obviously) and see how network vision and the LTE rollout pans out; however if things aren't looking much better I'm jumping ship or getting a second phone.
Anyway I apologize for the extremely random rant. I was shocked by atnt's "4G" network performance. Thats something I would've expected from a verizon LTE phone, but apparently the stereotypes I've held onto about the different networks are incorrect. Or the tower her phone is connected to is extremely uncongested, who knows. Like I said, I'm a sprint fan and a share holder, but if something doesn't change, my opinion will.
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Sprint's network blows worse than I thought compared to others
25mbs down and 6mbs up? Amazing!
Nothing like downloading a movie in under ten minutes... better be a good movie though since that uses up a good chunk of the 2GB you get per month.
Sorry, but it has to be about more than just raw speed.
This is like saying "I have a Lamborghini! But I can only drive in 40 miles a month"
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.
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25mbs down and 6mbs up? Amazing!
Nothing like downloading a movie in under ten minutes... better be a good movie though since that uses up a good chunk of the 2GB you get per month.
Sorry, but it has to be about more than just raw speed.
This is like saying "I have a Lamborghini! But I can only drive in 40 miles a month"
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.
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Win.
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mattykinsx said:
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.
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You are very correct. If I got a consistent 2mbit/s I'd be very content, but the only time I get that is on wimax when I make a trip to best buy in the city adjacent to me. If its night time, and I'm outside, I'll get 1.5mbit/s. Daytime outside 500-600kbit/s, most of the time I'm inside so that drops to 200-400. The building I work in has wifi and when I used my Evo it wasn't an issue, but with the epic touch's horrible wifi reception there are times when my 3G signal is present and the wifi isn't x.x
Furthermore when driving around I can't even use pandora without a good 20 seconds between songs due to lag. Now maybe the same thing would be true with atnt or verizon 4g, I can't be sure since my test was isolated to one spot, but I have a good idea it would be better.
What phone are u saying is international only?
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What phone are u saying is international only?
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
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samsung note, but it might be coming to atnt here
Never mock the marketing names. Only mock the actual experienced speeds.
How much would it cost to go family plan on your GFs account?
Verizon's got 20mbps LTE in my house, but I'm with Sprint because they pull 2500 kbps on 3G and it's unlimited.
yeah, I think about this constantly...and it's not even the price that keeps me anymore, it's the unlimited. My use can vary between 1.5gb a month to 20gb a month depending on where I go and what I do. I don't even want to know what that would cost me on ATT or Verizon...and T-Mobile is just a non-starter due to even worse coverage than Sprint.
But lets say I get some of that ATT or Verizon 20-40mbps action. I can peg that for minutes before burning through my limit of data...that's scary. Now, okay, even sticking to my same usage pattern...no, honestly I can't even gauge that. If I didn't get cut off or lagged to death I would almost certainly consume tons more data.
Is this fear enough to keep me? Not for much longer. Do you hear that Sprint? A lot of us are thinking very seriously a bout switching. Sure, 20-40mbps is on the 'ideal-to-high' side for HDSPA+ and LTE but I would jump ship for half of that, or even a reliable quarter of that. DO YOU HEAR THAT SPRINT? I WOULD PAY MORE MONEY FOR A TIERED PLAN THAT PROMISED TO DELIVER MY DATA AT SPEEDS THAT THEIR NETWORK WOULD CONSIDER 'CONGESTED' Meanwhile we're over here on Sprint praying to get 1/16th of those speeds and failing to get even that. Sure, promise us unlimited data and then fail to provide a speed that would even allow half of us to hit the limit of the equivalent plan on Verizon or ATT...
I'm very seriously considering leaving Sprint after more than a decade. This service is bad and just getting worse. Now we have the iPhone. Big fncking deal. I hope it was worth it to Sprint, cuz it certainly wasn't to me.
Galaxy Nexus...nice phone...a slightly bigger slightly higher res version of this phone (essentially, lets not nit pick here) except it's not only on Verizon's awesome 3G network (which I'm roaming on right now), but also Verizon LTE network.....for $10 more a month and watching my data usage a little I never have to worry about getting hosed with 250-500kbps service on a constant basis....hmm, not too bad.
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yeah, I think about this constantly...and it's not even the price that keeps me anymore, it's the unlimited. My use can vary between 1.5gb a month to 20gb a month depending on where I go and what I do. I don't even want to know what that would cost me on ATT or Verizon...and T-Mobile is just a non-starter due to even worse coverage than Sprint.
But lets say I get some of that ATT or Verizon 20-40mbps action. I can peg that for minutes before burning through my limit of data...that's scary. Now, okay, even sticking to my same usage pattern...no, honestly I can't even gauge that. If I didn't get cut off or lagged to death I would almost certainly consume tons more data.
Is this fear enough to keep me? Not for much longer. Do you hear that Sprint? A lot of us are thinking very seriously a bout switching. Sure, 20-40mbps is on the 'ideal-to-high' side for HDSPA+ and LTE but I would jump ship for half of that, or even a reliable quarter of that. DO YOU HEAR THAT SPRINT? I WOULD PAY MORE MONEY FOR A TIERED PLAN THAT PROMISED TO DELIVER MY DATA AT SPEEDS THAT THEIR NETWORK WOULD CONSIDER 'CONGESTED' Meanwhile we're over here on Sprint praying to get 1/16th of those speeds and failing to get even that. Sure, promise us unlimited data and then fail to provide a speed that would even allow half of us to hit the limit of the equivalent plan on Verizon or ATT...
I'm very seriously considering leaving Sprint after more than a decade. This service is bad and just getting worse. Now we have the iPhone. Big fncking deal. I hope it was worth it to Sprint, cuz it certainly wasn't to me.
Galaxy Nexus...nice phone...a slightly bigger slightly higher res version of this phone (essentially, lets not nit pick here) except it's not only on Verizon's awesome 3G network (which I'm roaming on right now), but also Verizon LTE network.....for $10 more a month and watching my data usage a little I never have to worry about getting hosed with 250-500kbps service on a constant basis....hmm, not too bad.
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I say you set the font size to 7 so Sprint can really hear you.
Oh wait, XDA is not a Sprint forum...
If your service doesn't do what you need it to, switch to one that does instead of making empty threats on a hacker forum that can't help you.
Guess I'm not the only one with insomnia at 4am...
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I have to say I'm also thinking about jumping ship from Sprint. I love my ET4G but the network speeds are complete crap. I'm in Los Angeles, only 15 minutes from downtown and I get CRAP speeds everywhere I go in Los Angeles County and in Tucson. Sprint's network just plain sucks. I get slow 3G speeds and rarely even connect to 4G and 4G speeds are usually about the same as my 3G speeds if it stays connected.
I've been with them for a decade now and get pretty good pricing but I want good data now more than ever. As soon as they change from 5GB cap on data service for phones I'll be able to dump my contract without an ETF and I'll go to Verizon. Sprint's prices are only a deal if you get comparable service to other providers. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/
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I say you set the font size to 7 so Sprint can really hear you.
Oh wait, XDA is not a Sprint forum...
If your service doesn't do what you need it to, switch to one that does instead of making empty threats on a hacker forum that can't help you.
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Lol, did I hit a sensitive spot? Slow speeds gettin' ya down? LTE envy?
To think that someone from Sprint doesn't keep an eye on this place is outright stupid....though it likely isn't someone who could help. I think it's even more idiotic to think that Sprint would listen to one lone complainer when they haven't listened to hundreds of thousands yet. Hell, on their own forum they can just delete the dissenting comment.
A thread full of impotent rage is surely more useful than a dump-truck full of deleted comments.
Besides, do you think Sprint would prefer to be the discount third-rate network? If they could snap their fingers and come up with the capitol to say "make it so" and have the network be competitive I'm sure they would. They can't. I could email everyone one of the top brass at Sprint, fax it to them, have the message hand delivered to everyone that mattered and it wouldn't be any more effective.
Here I am among a group of peers who share many of the same issues, at least here my comment can't be deleted by the company it criticizes. I'm bouncing ideas around, thinking out loud, commiserating. Sometimes "just talking about it" can be cathartic and be enough to relieve the frustration...or perhaps lead to solutions.
If this thread doesn't have only messages that you like switch to one that does instead of leaving *****y replies on a hacker forum that can't help your either?
....This is the /General forum, that's why...a thread about considering leaving Sprint no less. Seems the perfect venue to me. What else did you think you'd find in here?
That said this is no empty threat. If things don't start turning around soon it's going to be pretty hard to stick around here once that LTE Nexus Galaxy comes out...I've got a couple 'outs' on my contract like a dead-spot that an air-rave couldn't fix. The Verizon signal there is fantastic and I hear it's an LTE tower too.
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Verizon's got 20mbps LTE in my house, but I'm with Sprint because they pull 2500 kbps on 3G and it's unlimited.
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holy cow. I wish i could just get over 200kbps in my area....
I have to drive like 8 miles to just get 800-1000kbps in Tucson. BUT if i go DEEP into tucson by the university and everything else ill get about 1600kbps - 1900kbps.
Sprints towers in my neighborhood have been on and off since August 21st. Ive dropped more calls in those few months then with the 8 years ive had them and keep roaming and at times wont even get my texts and calls.
I also have been getting a call from the same Rep every tuesday asking if signal is any better and i give the same response and he puts out a trouble ticket.
just this bs alone makes me want to get verizon (my GF has a Droid Inc 2 and she gets 2000kbps in my house. ) But the 2gb cap and the fact that for the family of smartphones with discount is $264 and alot more than i pay now.
I know its not just my phone, its every sprint phone that is in my area.
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Besides, do you think Sprint would prefer to be the discount third-rate network? If they could snap their fingers and come up with the capitol to say "make it so" and have the network be competitive I'm sure they would. They can't. I could email everyone one of the top brass at Sprint, fax it to them, have the message hand delivered to everyone that mattered and it wouldn't be any more effective.
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Now now lets look at what Sprint has bet the entire farm on. They have betted over 20 BILLION dollars just to accomodate the IPHONE and iphone alone. Yes you read that right 20 Billion dollars. What about the rest of the other phones in their lineup.
I am not knocking a thing here just saying that is Sprint can bet the farm aka 20+ Billion just for the iphone then they can put some cash toward supporting the other phones.
I am now looking at Verizon and will be pricing a plan that compares to what I have with Sprint and if its not too much more money then well sorry Sprint I am gone.
Here in my hometown Verizon is rock solid and with 4g. Sprint sucks the big arse big time and the speeds I am getting is 200K down and about 170K up. Its so bad and has gotten worse in the last year that I have to use my TWC internet connection just for data uses on my Epic 4 g touch. I am paying that extra 10 bucks a month just because of the phone and for what crap service.
Again if Sprint can bet the farm and shell out over 20 Billion dollars just for the iphone then they can invest in the rest of us. If not then maybe its time to find another provider.
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Now now lets look at what Sprint has bet the entire farm on. They have betted over 20 BILLION dollars just to accomodate the IPHONE and iphone alone. Yes you read that right 20 Billion dollars. What about the rest of the other phones in their lineup.
I am not knocking a thing here just saying that is Sprint can bet the farm aka 20+ Billion just for the iphone then they can put some cash toward supporting the other phones.
I am now looking at Verizon and will be pricing a plan that compares to what I have with Sprint and if its not too much more money then well sorry Sprint I am gone.
Here in my hometown Verizon is rock solid and with 4g. Sprint sucks the big arse big time and the speeds I am getting is 200K down and about 170K up. Its so bad and has gotten worse in the last year that I have to use my TWC internet connection just for data uses on my Epic 4 g touch. I am paying that extra 10 bucks a month just because of the phone and for what crap service.
Again if Sprint can bet the farm and shell out over 20 Billion dollars just for the iphone then they can invest in the rest of us. If not then maybe its time to find another provider.
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I agree. Granted, to stay competitive, I think they had to do whatever it took to get the iPhone... does that give them a fighting chance? At best. This wasn't capitol either, it was a promise of future sales. This, honestly, all looks terrible for Sprint in the short term and uncertain, at best, in the long term. Have you seen what their shares have been trading at?
Meanwhile I have seen the once ass-kicking network where with my LG Lotus I could pull down 2mbps on a regular basis tethered (for only $15 more than my $69.99 plan) only ~2 years later I can barely hit 500kbps for $10 on top of my $69.99 plan...and then the onslaught of iPhone users comes in to gobble up the rest. So I'm paying $5 less than I was ~2 years ago for 25% of the speed and 25% of the availability...My connections time out so much that I have to hit 'reload' so many times it's absurd. Pop on 00001.PRL to see what the other side lives with....1.5mbps all day every day, even in my apartment where I routinely get 150-500kbps. Randomly, except during peak hours (noon, give or take 6 hours) where I'm lucky to even get a connection. I absolutely need to use Opera Mini to even load a non-mobile version of a web page....how fast is it going then? Who knows, the speedtest app hangs at 'finding server'.
Things did seem to be picking up in the weeks leading up to the iPhone launch, but, that phone has made any gains moot. If in the next month I don't see some real action it's over...I'm going *sigh* Verizon. Paying too much for data you do get is preferable to paying anything for data you don't get.
I've wanted to switch for 6 or more months now. The only thing keeping me is the Google Voice/Sprint integration. Being able to check and answer all my texts and calls online regardless of where I am geographically or what state my phone is in is huge for me.
I'd easily leave and tolerate a 2GB cap that I actually have the capacity to reach, than deal with poor service even in the midst of an AirRave. I too am experiencing abysmal network speed in a decent sized American city.
I'd also love to tap in to the international developement base as far as having a popular unlocked GSM phone like the (original) GSII goes.
dmexs said:
I've wanted to switch for 6 or more months now. The only thing keeping me is the Google Voice/Sprint integration. Being able to check and answer all my texts and calls online regardless of where I am geographically or what state my phone is in is huge for me.
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Just port your number out to Google Voice. I did that with my last phone when I got out of contract for free. It cost $20 and took 3 days. They still haven't gottem MMS straightened out yet but in the past week they made it a priority...currently Sprint-to-Sprint MMS works. But I just sent a mass-text to everyone that would even send me MMS (few people, honestly, 8 or 9 maybe?) and told them to send MMS to the new number. So now I get that same integration no matter where I go. So now all voicemails and text to that number go to my phone, web browser GV tab and my tablet. It's insanely handy and totally worth the $20 and minor hassle.
I myself was thinking about going to Verizon for the Nexus Prime...and they still have month-to-month plans if you buy the device outright. That way if Sprint happens to get their **** together and fixes this network up--or if the tiered data plans end up being too much to deal with--I can just bail.
EDIT: I just looked into Verizon:
450 Minutes : $39.99
250 Messages : $5.00
2GB Data : $30.00 = $74.99 a month
or 5GB Data : $50.00 = $94.99 a month
...not to bad if I can keep it under 2GB, palatable for 5GB plan.... I'm not thrilled about it, at all. But, to get usable data on a month-to-month plan I'll just might take it.
T-Mobile:
Unlimited Everything + 2gb "full speed" = $79.99 a month
Unlimited Everything + 5gb "full speed" = $89.99 a month
...not too shabby, but, they have no compelling phones right now and even though I hear their 3G and "4G" (aka 3.5G) is pretty damned fast I'm not so sure about their coverage
AT&T:
450 Minutes : $39.99
2GB Data : $25.00 = $64.99 a month
4GB Data + tethering: $45 = $74.99 a month
though they don't seem to have any txting packages except the $20 unlimited, which is ridiculous. that's fine for me, I use GVoice, but, how to MMS count, just data? Their coverage around here ain't bad and their data speeds are very fast from what I hear.
hmmm
And lets not forget, Sprint has taken the "first" step toward teired data plans. Yes if you have mobil plan with them ( not cell phone ) you now have a teired data plan. before you pay a flat rate and got unlimited.
To me this is the last step before teired data plans comes to us cell phone users. With all the changes that Sprint has done this will be the final nail in its coffen. If Sprint does roll out teired data plans there will be zero reason to stay with them. Why because you can pay about the same price maybe just a little more and get solid service, solid data rates.
If sprint losses unlimited data I'd be gone. My 3g is miserable in Toledo 200-300 kbps. i'm never off wifi anymore.
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About an hour out from going back to the store where I bought my VZW GN to exchange it for a different one. They've only got one left and I'm on the last day of my 30 day window.
Can barely make a phone call in my house, whereas my Droid X had no issues before. Few weird episodes of deafening scrambled noises during voice calls. Lots of dropped calles/lost signal. All radios I tried (including hybrids) didn't do much for me. Though even if it didn't even make calls ever I'd still keep the phone...too much enjoyment from tinkering with it.
I know some have exchanged and gotten a flawless GN which worked perfectly (signal wise).
Anyone exchange it and become worse off with the newer/exchanged GN?
I have had no problems but would share that some people believe there are less problems with the ones built in Korea.
I guess it will be interesting to see what I get.
Current GN is REV 10 mfg on Nov 16, 2011. Not sure of the mfg location.
How did you get a 30 day window? I bought 3 Gnex and all were 14 days.
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policy of my local store (Nebraska Furniture Mart).
14 day return
30 day exchange
cordell12 said:
How did you get a 30 day window? I bought 3 Gnex and all were 14 days.
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Different states and stores have different policies.
Got the new one yesterday. Same revision and mfg date.
Dunno about the reception yet. However, this one has noticeable banding at low levels whereas my other one had none.
I suppose perfect is the enemy of good in this case
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Got the new one yesterday. Same revision and mfg date.
Dunno about the reception yet. However, this one has noticeable banding at low levels whereas my other one had none.
I suppose perfect is the enemy of good in this case
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First of all, I feel your frustration & anger as I am experiencing the exact issue that you are having for 4 months now. As a fellow galaxy nexus user, I am truly sorry. I hope we all find a solution in the near future.
In the mean time, since you are on the journey to find a Galaxy nexus that actually works as advertised, I would also like to say. "Welcome aboard." Some of us went through 6-7 GNex until we found an okay / usable / livable one.
Until then, if some of the members in this forum will reply on these threads "My GNex is perfect, what are you talking about?" You can always try to remember there's people like me and you as well.
I got sick and tired of the same complaints many have on this message board.
Poor rf. Slow LTE to CDMA data handoff. Speakerphone low.
My Verizon LTE iPad gets at least 2-3 bars LTE at my house. My buddy razr gets 2-3 bars LTE. I get 2-3 bars CDMA. 0 bars and sometimes LTE signal lights up. Very frustrating. It's just not one defective phone. This is poor antenna design on Samsung CDMA division. Nurse at work got same galaxy nexus and has same issues I have. Same rf problems so it's pointless switching it out.
I had this phone since day one December 15th on Verizon. So 3 -1/2 months is plenty enough. Put it on Craigslist for $400. Sold it for $380. Good riddance.
Thank god I also had my AT&T iPhone 4s. I carry both AT&T and Verizon.
I'll just put the Verizon LTE sim that was on my galaxy nexus into my Verizon LTE iPad and get essentially unlimited LTE data plus free hotspot.
I'll wait a month or two before figuring what Verizon phone to buy again. This Galaxy nexus phone has left a sour taste in my mouth. And I am a phone junkie. I've own the Atrix, Mytouch 4g, S2 all within the past year.
Samsung needs to do a better job with their CDMA antennas. It's been 8 years since I last owned a CDMA phone. And the last phone that drove me away was also a Samsung CDMA phone.
I do like Verizon LTE data. That's why I added Verizon. At least I will get data use out of it from the iPad. It really only costs me $30 a month since I added a line to my brothers Verizon account while I have AT&T as my main line.
I got an expensive phone habit. At least selling it off recoups some of the cost.
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I got sick and tired of the same complaints many have on this message board.
Poor rf. Slow LTE to CDMA data handoff. Speakerphone low.
My Verizon LTE iPad gets at least 2-3 bars LTE at my house. My buddy razr gets 2-3 bars LTE. I get 2-3 bars CDMA. 0 bars and sometimes LTE signal lights up. Very frustrating. It's just not one defective phone. This is poor antenna design on Samsung CDMA division. Nurse at work got same galaxy nexus and has same issues I have. Same rf problems so it's pointless switching it out.
I had this phone since day one December 15th on Verizon. So 3 -1/2 months is plenty enough. Put it on Craigslist for $400. Sold it for $380. Good riddance.
Thank god I also had my AT&T iPhone 4s. I carry both AT&T and Verizon.
I'll just put the Verizon LTE sim that was on my galaxy nexus into my Verizon LTE iPad and get essentially unlimited LTE data plus free hotspot.
I'll wait a month or two before figuring what Verizon phone to buy again. This Galaxy nexus phone has left a sour taste in my mouth. And I am a phone junkie. I've own the Atrix, Mytouch 4g, S2 all within the past year.
Samsung needs to do a better job with their CDMA antennas. It's been 8 years since I last owned a CDMA phone. And the last phone that drove me away was also a Samsung CDMA phone.
I do like Verizon LTE data. That's why I added Verizon. At least I will get data use out of it from the iPad. It really only costs me $30 a month since I added a line to my brothers Verizon account while I have AT&T as my main line.
I got an expensive phone habit. At least selling it off recoups some of the cost.
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lol You put a 700 dollar phone that's barely 3 months old up on craigslist for 400, AND you took an offer of 380?
Can I have some of those amazing drugs that you're on?
MMcCraryNJ said:
lol You put a 700 dollar phone that's barely 3 months old up on craigslist for 400, AND you took an offer of 380?
Can I have some of those amazing drugs that you're on?
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That sounds about right. Its like a new car, drops in value the minute it becomes "used".
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MMcCraryNJ said:
lol You put a 700 dollar phone that's barely 3 months old up on craigslist for 400, AND you took an offer of 380?
Can I have some of those amazing drugs that you're on?
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Yeah. Sad but that's just the going price for the Verizon galaxy nexus on craigslist.
Even looking at eBay. Many are ending in the high $300s to mid $400s. Factor in 6-10% eBay fees and shipping cost. Your net will probably be close to high $300s/low $400s.
Many listing buy it now for $500 on eBay are not getting a single bite.
All the Craigslist ads in my area for gnex Verizon range from $360-$450 mint condition.
Just remember CDMA phones lose value a lot faster than gsm. Cause your potential clients shrink since they have to deal with just Verizon.
I had a buyer for $400 last week but he wanted to flash to metro pcs and thought he could get LTE with metro. I told him I don't think he could flash it and get LTE cause metro has different frequencies. I am an honest seller. I know the resell market.
Was not trying have this be a GN complaint thread, but I understand your frustrations. I wish the phone was perfect....I agree that Google and Samsung botched the whole thing up. However almost every other aspect of the phone and it's tinkerability are too much to give up.
As I was eating lunch today in the doctor's lounge I looked around for 20 seconds...everyone doing stuff on their phones...every single phone an iPhone. So happy to stand out owning a GNex...a real smartphone (which I'm incidentally surprised so many smart people choose Apple).
Oh the brainwashing...
As people in this country get lazier and more uninspired Apple's stock will continue to rise.
Oh...wait...now it's an anti-iPhone thread
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Yeah. Sad but that's just the going price for the Verizon galaxy nexus on craigslist.
Even looking at eBay. Many are ending in the high $300s to mid $400s. Factor in 6-10% eBay fees and shipping cost. Your net will probably be close to high $300s/low $400s.
Many listing buy it now for $500 on eBay are not getting a single bite.
All the Craigslist ads in my area for gnex Verizon range from $360-$450 mint condition.
Just remember CDMA phones lose value a lot faster than gsm. Cause your potential clients shrink since they have to deal with just Verizon.
I had a buyer for $400 last week but he wanted to flash to metro pcs and thought he could get LTE with metro. I told him I don't think he could flash it and get LTE cause metro has different frequencies. I am an honest seller. I know the resell market.
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I assume because Sprint will have LTE soon, the LTE version will sell well soon on Craigslist and co., right?
And that IS a pretty expensive hobby, selling and buying the latest and greatest... what's the point of buying into two different providers anyway? Must have a lot of disposable income (and of course, what you do with it is totally up to you.)
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lol You put a 700 dollar phone that's barely 3 months old up on craigslist for 400, AND you took an offer of 380?
Can I have some of those amazing drugs that you're on?
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As aneftp said, check around. That's right in the range that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is going for these days. I bought mine in mint condition - never activated - for $375. The value on this one has dropped much faster than most anticipated.
incidentally I put a new screen cover on (not an invisi shield or anything). It has a matte finish. Probably decreases the luster of the screen a bit but somehow it also decreases any banding. I don't see it at all anymore.
I am a fan of matte finishes...bought my laptop with it because of it...less luster but IMO looks better overall.
So I finally checked out a Note2 in person at a T-Mobile store on Saturday & liked what I saw even if it doesn't have all the features that would have made it a more instant buy for me including the split-screen-multitasking- multi-view, screen recorder function, video maker app & higher capacities than 16GB (~10.9GB internal on this one). For the bezel I would have preferred black & the rest could be grey or white. The contrasting of the AT&T One X's black core bezel is nice.
I did notice the less alluring plasticky Samsung feel of it but will 99% likely put a case on it anyway & followed this video that did make it seem quicker The screen did not look so huge to me as it was noticeably narrower than the original Note1 & I seemed to be able to use it with one hand without issues except when using the S-pen obviously but it was in one of those central vise gripper holders sadly so I couldn't properly test it & pocketability yet. The central vise gripper holder did make the handset look larger & I admit I'm still curious to see the 5" 1080p HTC handset coming to Verizon soon but I think I prefer the versatility of the Note2's S-Pen functionality & large removable battery.
I liked the ability to change the screen mode to more natural etc & the speaker was thankfully strong but Note 3 should still go for stereo higher fidelity speakers & a brighter perhaps even full 1080p screen. The screen on the Note2 seemed just bright enough at max brightness but I did not get a chance to test it under sunny conditions. The camera & camcorder seemed great but not quite as amazing as the HTC OneX although the software features go a long way. I do hope a future update would be able to bring audio to slow motion video at 1080p however.
I installed Flash easily but did not seem to get the 1080p options on the desktop version of youtube.com & didn't have the time to look into it further there so while the "HQ" Iron Man 3 HD trailer looked good-my own 1080p video capture was noticeably sharper. My non 720p EVO does HQ, so shouldn't the Note2 play better HD youtube than "HQ"?
When I started using-drilling the Note2 at full brightness-full volume etc the battery was ~33% & I was able to shut it down in ~ 2 hours, doesn't that sound low?
I was also quite surprised by T-Mobile prices because according to online articles I wasn't expecting such a compelling case for T-Mobile but the HSPA+ speeds on the speedtest app were consistently impressive at over 20 Mbps down & ~ 2 Mbps up (although this store's location had excellent coverage compared to where I would use it most ~ 5 miles away with significantly more spotty map coverage (Verizon has best coverage here) with individual T-Mobile value plans starting at $50/mo (for 500whenevermin-unlimited text-unlimited plus data with 2GB high speed data-to unlimited everything for $20 more/mo. The Note2 was priced there at $250 + $20/mo for 20 months to pay off its $650 pricetag. Since currently the vast majority of the time I seem to have fast Wi-Fi access & I don't need more than 500 whenever min I think I should get by on that $50/mo plan & if I notice higher usage could go up to other plans depending on data & hotspot needs. I'm still evaluating the AT&T & Verizon plans but I don't see why I should put up with slow Sprint any longer when T-Mobile is flexible & fast but my use case coverage remains to be tested.. Thoughts on T-Mobile vs other carriers or my rambling comments above?
Time for more storm-prep here in NY metro area..
Nice lil' writeup.
I am not sure if the $250 + $20 a month extra is a good deal, but that's what I went with. They also gave me a $100 rebate, so... Hard to argue with that.
I figured being on WiFi most of my time, I'll just get the minimum minutes and dataplan I can get. Ends up being a bit cheaper than the $100+ I was spending with VZW.
Glad I made the move to T-Mobile even if the network here in Denver isn't as good as VZW.
Be safe out there!
Hey Smart.....
Don't put too much faith in T-Mobile's wi-fi calling app..... Although I have 100% wi-fi signal strength at home (same room as router), wi-fi calling only works about 50% of the time (doesn't let you answer calls.... even though phone is ringing, or you make a call and you cannot hear them but they can hear you, etc.). Per T-Mobile tech support, I've changed my SIM card twice now but that hasn't fixed any problems... Finally, the last tech support person I spoke to tells me, "Yeah, our Note's wi-fi calling app is buggy"
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Nice lil' writeup.
I am not sure if the $250 + $20 a month extra is a good deal, but that's what I went with. They also gave me a $100 rebate, so... Hard to argue with that.
I figured being on WiFi most of my time, I'll just get the minimum minutes and dataplan I can get. Ends up being a bit cheaper than the $100+ I was spending with VZW.
Glad I made the move to T-Mobile even if the network here in Denver isn't as good as VZW.
Be safe out there!
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How did you get a $100 rebate?
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Interesting to hear about the WiFi. It's been pretty great for me so far, although sometimes I can hear the echo of my voice coming back to me a second after I stopped talking, but so far so good.
As for the rebate? I have no idea. They just said it was eligible for $100 mail in rebate. They took care of the paperwork there, submitted it, and they said all I have to do is just wait for the check in the mail. We'll see about that too.
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Interesting to hear about the WiFi. It's been pretty great for me so far, although sometimes I can hear the echo of my voice coming back to me a second after I stopped talking, but so far so good.
As for the rebate? I have no idea. They just said it was eligible for $100 mail in rebate. They took care of the paperwork there, submitted it, and they said all I have to do is just wait for the check in the mail. We'll see about that too.
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Ilk he have to see them because they didn't offer any rebates to me and I have the same deal. I assume you have the value plan?
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craighwk said:
Nice lil' writeup.
I am not sure if the $250 + $20 a month extra is a good deal, but that's what I went with. They also gave me a $100 rebate, so... Hard to argue with that.
I figured being on WiFi most of my time, I'll just get the minimum minutes and dataplan I can get. Ends up being a bit cheaper than the $100+ I was spending with VZW.
Glad I made the move to T-Mobile even if the network here in Denver isn't as good as VZW.
Be safe out there!
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Thnx I lived in beautiful Boulder a couple years..:highfive:..what kind of speeds are you getting out there? I'll ask about any rebates but their pricing seems reasonable & flexible assuming service isn't significantly inferior for the user. I didn't ask about their return policy yet but Sprint is down to 14 days before ETF I think kicks in..? The manager also mentioned that she just got back from a meeting where NY could be getting LTE by March (won't hold my breath there but the in store HSPA+ downloads speed tests seemed great already unlike Sprint) & Note2 will get enabled for their LTE deployment.
I wonder if Skype+online# at $60/yr is better than T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling in how posters here describe it? I've set Skype online # + unlimited world subscription up for family traveling abroad & while certainly helpful they still manage to complain about its imperfections..:fingers-crossed:
I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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Gotcha. I ported mine a month ago so I dont think I qualify. Thanks for the info and sorry to the OP for changing the subject of his thread.
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craighwk said:
I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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Good to know about the relative unreliability of T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling. It's happened with Skype setups too going to voicemail after not really ringing, video calls almost seem more reliable at certain times perhaps because everyone is using some kind of computer (includes smartphones).. Hey 5 Mbps is fast enough to stream quality video right..can't say that with Sprint's 1Mbps avg 3G here..Vs my 75 Mbps dwnld / 35 Mbps upload FIOS network connections
I wouldn't be surprised if Google disrupts internet telephony beyond their Google Voice eventually..too bad they had to cancel flights to the NYC Android event tomorrow because of this frankenstorm forecast that I'm still hoping will not really happen or at least not really affect up to 60 million:fingers-crossed: Got an emergency call from local gov warning of possible power loss for up to 7-10 days which would obviously suck & to secure property before tonight
I'd ask about any porting promotion but by that cited name it may be regional.. Any ETA for a similar update that brought the intl model split-screen-multitasking- multi-view? People otherwise happy with their Note2 on T-Mobile?
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Any ETA for a similar update that brought the intl model split-screen-multitasking- multi-view? People otherwise happy with their Note2 on T-Mobile?
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No ETA on the multiview feature. I'm quite happy with mines . Battery life if phenomenal... had a 50 minute skype call last night (with video on wifi at 70% brightness) and my battery only dropped 17%... that would've been the end of my Sensation.
Oh, one issue with Samsung... they need to get more accessories in stock on their site... I can't buy anything with my 50% off coupon... =.=
craighwk said:
I think I jinxed myself with WiFi. As soon as I posted that, I got a call from Dad that went straight to voicemail. Didn't hear the phone ring. Called him back and the call dropped immediately. He called me back and he couldn't hear me when I said hello. Went into settings, disabled Wifi, and everything was perfect. Oh well.
Speeds here aren't crazy or anything I checked two days ago and I was getting about 5 Mbit/sec when I was getting 9 with VZW. I guess that's not too bad considering this isn't true LTE, right?
As for the rebate I got, yes, I selected the value plan. Apparently it's because I ported a phone number over. I'm looking at the rebate and it says "Mountain Plains Port in Online Promotion". $100 rebate card mailed to me 4-6 weeks.
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Hi Craig, you might want to check your router settings. I was having problems with my Wifi Calling too, but since I played with some settings, it works perfectly now (both on my Sensation and my Note II)
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How did you get a $100 rebate?
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My local TMO store offered only a $50 rebate. I'll have to press him harder.
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I think you're right on the money. IMO, the Tmo Note II on value plan is the best option for any phone lover right now. That is assuming of course you have decent reception where you need it. I'm in SoCal and Tmo gets great reception here. I "only" get 12-16mbps down here so far, but feel that LTE will light it off pretty good next year. While I'd love a 1080p display, I wouldn't love an HTC so the Butterfly variants are out. Plus, the expandable memory and tremendous battery life are great. Lastly, Touchwiz on this phone is pretty decent. This is my first TW device, but compared to Sense or even Vanilla, I gotta say I like what Samsung has done here.
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I think you're right on the money. IMO, the Tmo Note II on value plan is the best option for any phone lover right now. That is assuming of course you have decent reception where you need it. I'm in SoCal and Tmo gets great reception here. I "only" get 12-16mbps down here so far, but feel that LTE will light it off pretty good next year. While I'd love a 1080p display, I wouldn't love an HTC so the Butterfly variants are out. Plus, the expandable memory and tremendous battery life are great. Lastly, Touchwiz on this phone is pretty decent. This is my first TW device, but compared to Sense or even Vanilla, I gotta say I like what Samsung has done here.
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Great answer, I switch from sprint to tmobile and never looked backed over 2 years ago. I really enjoy my gn2 I bought and my wife the gs3 and switched my plan to the value plan. Saving about 80 dollars a month. I can go a whole day with out charging my phone even though I keep my charger around my neck as a habit from previous phones. I can live with out some features that tmobile gn2 has left out. When they'll come I'll update as for now, I'll waite. Half of the people don't use half of the features some phones have anyway.
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farfromovin said:
I think you're right on the money. IMO, the Tmo Note II on value plan is the best option for any phone lover right now. That is assuming of course you have decent reception where you need it. I'm in SoCal and Tmo gets great reception here. I "only" get 12-16mbps down here so far, but feel that LTE will light it off pretty good next year. While I'd love a 1080p display, I wouldn't love an HTC so the Butterfly variants are out. Plus, the expandable memory and tremendous battery life are great. Lastly, Touchwiz on this phone is pretty decent. This is my first TW device, but compared to Sense or even Vanilla, I gotta say I like what Samsung has done here.
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I'm good with HSPA+... I get 24mbps on a good day, and average 15 mbps around town. Considering that T-Mobile has DC-HSPA that goes up to 41mbps, if that saturate that network, then I'm fine. Heck, 15mbps is faster than the home internet of at least 75% of the nation.
I don't mind the touchwiz, but the 5x4 icon layout is just plain dumb. it's an ENORMOUS waste of space, other than that, no real gripes here.
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I'm good with HSPA+... I get 24mbps on a good day, and average 15 mbps around town. Considering that T-Mobile has DC-HSPA that goes up to 41mbps, if that saturate that network, then I'm fine. Heck, 15mbps is faster than the home internet of at least 75% of the nation.
I don't mind the touchwiz, but the 5x4 icon layout is just plain dumb. it's an ENORMOUS waste of space, other than that, no real gripes here.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking!! Why the heck would Samsung give us a 5x4 layout in a 5.5in screen-_- I'm positive they could of managed a 5x5. Besides that I'm in looooove. Just want that Damn multi Window feature already!
Can someone from Att please respond and let us know why in the world are they charging over 100 dollars more for their note over Verizons? I would really like to know this. You guys should price match!
Because they know their customers are sheep.
I refuse to buy it from Att unless they lower it. I currently plan on buying it from t-mobile and paying to have it unlocked so I can use it on att and hopefully have an unlocked bootloader.
You can't just walk into a T Mobile store and buy a note 4, you need to have a account with them.
You can after it is released, but you can't preorder it without an account.
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You can't just walk into a T Mobile store and buy a note 4, you need to have a account with them.
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I thought you can buy any phone for $50 more without a plan.
I'm so glad I switched to T-mobile.
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I agree it sucks but most customers don't know the difference or that they even have other options. I can't see my 60 yr old dad trying to save a $100 by by buying from T-Mobile and then figuring out APN settings when he doesn't even know what they are.
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Can someone from Att please respond and let us know why in the world are they charging over 100 dollars more for their note over Verizons? I would really like to know this. You guys should price match!
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Yeah, like executives from ATT read posts from XDA...and, like they would care about overcharging for ANYTHING...
It is funny as evil as big corp is like ATT and VZW and BofA and Delta, people still want to go with them even if they got Tmo coverage.
Go figures. So why?
What's funny to me is all of the people that don't know the actual meaning of the word Evil...
They may be greedy, which T-Mobile is too, but not exactly evil...
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What's funny to me is all of the people that don't know the actual meaning of the word Evil...
They may be greedy, which T-Mobile is too, but not exactly evil...
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No man. Tmo is not evil. They are the pricing leader. You didnt know this?
Pricing leader doesn't mean they aren't greedy, or 'evil' for that matter.
Just means that they are the cheapest right now. Oh, and also have the sh|tt|est network, too... Coincidence?
couldnt disagree with you more; you obviously arent in a major metro or suburban area, because tMobile is fantastic now in those areas..
rural and country area, not so good, but otherwise you are totally off base..
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couldnt disagree with you more; you obviously arent in a major metro or suburban area, because tMobile is fantastic now in those areas..
rural and country area, not so good, but otherwise you are totally off base..
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Tmobile can be pretty bad in my area, North and central NJ. Otherwise I would have switched the them long ago. Worst thing is at the hospital I work at I get 5 bars Tmobile at the front door, by the time I get to my office I have zero reception making my phone a paperweight, where my ATT retains it's 5 full bars all the way to my office. I'm not seeing where Tmobile has much cheaper plans than ATT either, certainly not cheap enough to make me lose reception, I think last time I looked it was a $10/month difference.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not in love with ATT. I just don't see the value in getting Tmobile, at least in my area.
if you havent tried them recently, it might be worth taking their 7 day "test drive" to see if they have improved coverage in your area..they give you an iphone to use for 7 days for free, so you could see if their nationwide network improvement program did anything in your area..
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if you havent tried them recently, it might be worth taking their 7 day "test drive" to see if they have improved coverage in your area..they give you an iphone to use for 7 days for free, so you could see if their nationwide network improvement program did anything in your area..
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Yeah maybe worth trying. Last time I gave them a shot was about 8 months ago. The reception varied widely wherever I traveled. NJ is a weird place, you would think as one of the most dense areas in the country it would have perfect coverage, but it does not. Even my ATT reception is funky at times. But the worst offence with Tmobile was their indoor coverage, in any large building it seemed to be awful. I doubt they are going to be able to fix that, especially with their push for WiFi calling, WiFi unfortunately is unavailable to me at my work.
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I thought you can buy any phone for $50 more without a plan.
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I'm guessing you're joking
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Pricing leader doesn't mean they aren't greedy, or 'evil' for that matter.
Just means that they are the cheapest right now. Oh, and also have the sh|tt|est network, too... Coincidence?
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there IS no t-Mobile in Montana - so we piggyback/roam onto att anyway. But who else besides T-Mo offers no 4g throttle down after 2gb-4gb . . . . . that's Way more valuable than a less spotty network, IMO.
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so.... the question is the tmobile version is 100% compatible with att lte? what about the sprint or verizon version? i heard the verizon versin is only 699.
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I'm guessing you're joking
there IS no t-Mobile in Montana - so we piggyback/roam onto att anyway. But who else besides T-Mo offers no 4g throttle down after 2gb-4gb . . . . . that's Way more valuable than a less spotty network, IMO.
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Not more valuable to me... I NEED my phone to actually work reliably in the 13 cities I support, or *I* won't work reliably... Lol. I use maybe 7-10 gig a month, so I just pay for it.
For some people, unlimited worth spottier service may be worth it though. Each to their own.