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Very excited that i just got my NoDo update.
But already im seeing lag at the start screen, scrolling down and up is not as smooth as before.
Has anyone with NoDo experienced this?
nops no such issue here on an omnia 7
Perform a hard reset, did it on my Focus (with NoDo) and it seems better.
Mines actually notably faster...
I have the Arrive that came with NoDo already installed. I found it to be smooth and fast. After watching videos of devices with NoDo, I feel bad for you guys.
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Mines actually notably faster...
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Same here..
after updating it improved alot
The browser still locks up and text stays blurry when zooming, but it always did that. Other than that though, the phone is faster to me. WP7 has the worst browser on any smartphone, I really hope mango fixes it.
My DVP is faster after NoDo update. I notice People tile opens faster.
my samsung focus is a lot faster and never had any problem with the browser. Actually i think its a lot better than iOS and Android default browsers.
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my samsung focus is a lot faster and never had any problem with the browser. Actually i think its a lot better than iOS and Android default browsers.
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Go to anandtech.com, go to the first article and double tap on the text or any image. The browser will freeze up for 5-10 seconds and text will remain blurry for long periods of time.
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Go to anandtech.com, go to the first article and double tap on the text or any image. The browser will freeze up for 5-10 seconds and text will remain blurry for long periods of time.
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Not mine, but I have the DVP...
ryude said:
The browser still locks up and text stays blurry when zooming, but it always did that. Other than that though, the phone is faster to me. WP7 has the worst browser on any smartphone, I really hope mango fixes it.
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Obviously you have not used a Blackberry.
But anyone who thinks IE7.5 is better than Chrome or Safari Mobile is a retard. There is literally no objective basis for that claim.
no issues for me on optimus7 with scroll before or after nodo(milisec lags doesnt really count) but i aint into them social things.. no FB app for me(just checking pics sometimes) and no messengers of any kind...
maybe ur back-up had some problems when restoring...
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Go to anandtech.com, go to the first article and double tap on the text or any image. The browser will freeze up for 5-10 seconds and text will remain blurry for long periods of time.
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Yes the text was blurry for a while, but I don't see any freezing.
Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues that I get with the stock browser.
It seems quite sluggish when scrolling but the main problem is when zooming in, it is slow to redraw. When zooming out I get a large white screen around the part I was looking at and have to wait a couple of seconds for it to redraw. I have looked at various browser hands on one YouTube and none seem to have this issue.
It also seems to just close itself occasionally with no error message.
Thanks for any input.
I've installed Chrome beta and it offers a lot better browsing experience. It doesnt seem to have the redrawing bug when you zoom in.
Those reviews on the Internet have an updated version of the OS. Most likely this update fixed the issue.
Ya, the browser is terrible slow when it comes to scrolling and pinch to zoom. But I never had a delay of seconds. Definitely something wrong btw with some lower level implementations . Stock ICS browser has the same problems.
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Those reviews on the Internet have an updated version of the OS. Most likely this update fixed the issue.
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How nice for HTC to make sure the review devices were updated hehe.
Maybe I have been spoiled with the browser experience on my Galaxy S2 with a custom rom . Pretty sure back when that was new I had similar issues.
At least some noted developers are already here and working on Roms.
Will give Chrome a try too.
Don't know if this for sure, but i faced non of the phone arena touch issues
i had 3 fingers gestures disabled in the phone settings and hence had full multitouch
if someone can confirm it works better with full multitouch?
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Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues that I get with the stock browser.
It seems quite sluggish when scrolling but the main problem is when zooming in, it is slow to redraw. When zooming out I get a large white screen around the part I was looking at and have to wait a couple of seconds for it to redraw. I have looked at various browser hands on one YouTube and none seem to have this issue.
It also seems to just close itself occasionally with no error message.
Thanks for any input.
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Sounds weird. I spend at least 4 hours browsing on my phone everyday (news, forums, deviantart, 500px, etc) and I honestly cannot compare my experience to any other. It's butterly smooth, fast as hell, and most vivid. My only complaint is the battery life, I can't get more than 5 hours of browsing on WiFi...no matter what.
I think you may have a rogue app in the background. Try reflashing your stock ROM without restoring any apps, and see if the problem continues.
Cheers
this video shows exactly how i described the browser, locked 60fps with only the tiling/flash effect when the page snaps, happens in split second, first time i experienced such a smooth stock browser, its much smoother than opera mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
im convinced the issues you guys mention are related to the 3 touch gesture mode in settings, i had this setting disabled
I had lag also and when i got the phone ran the multi touch and would only record 2 fingers max, disabled HTC's 3 finger swipe and now it is very responsive. Ran the test again and now records up to 9 fingers.
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I had lag also and when i got the phone ran the multi touch and would only record 2 fingers max, disabled HTC's 3 finger swipe and now it is very responsive. Ran the test again and now records up to 9 fingers.
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hold on a second! first thanks for confirming the browser issues are related to this setting
maybe this is the cause of all problems!
3 finger swipe is actually used to send the image/mirror to the HDMI output, maybe its causing the other issues?
I should thank you for bring up disabling the 3 finger swipe which reminded me of the the touch sensor test i ran when i got the phone.
Thanks.
I didn't experience the stock browser confusion and stutter described by many including the Phone Arena review
I think it's actually caused by HTC 3 fingers gestures mode which disable full multi touch abilites, this gesture mode is used to send image to the HDMI dongle by 3 fingers swipe
with this setting off the browser ran locked 60fps like the video below, only the screen flashing/tiling for a split second when it snaps, its so smooth you don't mind the snapping effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
can everyone who experience browser issues and corruptions issues, try the following:
- Clear the notification area, it can cause interference with the browser, thanks to emahmood87 for finding this
- Disable 3 Gesture swipe HTC mode, to fix browser UI confusion and stutter
- Make sure all the develop options are unticked, a few of these options can cause screen flashing etc
- Disable Settings>Power>Fastboot mode, this can cause incompatibility with certain apps
reboot your phone and report back
As you already i know it works great for me by disabling it, and again thank you for bringing it up eariler.
What is the page address in the video?
Edit: it's still stutter after disabling it, it's smoother in my htc desire/ bravo :S.
I agree the browser is smooth. No problems here in fact I am amazed that so many threads are here with complaints. I have owned lot of mobiles including the dhd, evo 3d, gs2 and iPhone 4s also galaxy nexus. And I must say this mobile is beautiful in hardware and software.
Btw
Gsmarena.com
It should be smoother and removes the lag when scrolling up and down. It won't remove the slight stutter when the text reflow kicks in however. 2 diffrent things
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Attention! I found out that the damn FASTBOOT option is causing a lot of problems esp related to camera and browser screen glitches.
My wife's one X is on fastboot and had a auto reboot and a few force closes and screen glitches started to appear, compared to mine with fastboot off from first day had non of the above mentioned issues.
Go to settings/Power then uncheck fastboot option and restart your phone.
pardon me if this has been mentioned.
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ok ill add this suggestion too
lets hope we get to the bottom of this
browser bug
Guys the glitches in browser or corruption of the url only happen when you have something in the notification tray for example you are downloading something from the market or Amazon appstore side by side or it can be anything like a message or a missed call being shown in notification tray . Just clear all notifications and use the browser there will be no glitches or corruption ever . Even in the video posted by OP the notification bar is clear . I think a future software update by HTC will resolve this software bug.
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ok ill add this suggestion too
lets hope we get to the bottom of this
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yeah..
some1 mentioned that *#*#4636#*#* menu toggles cant work because fast boot was enabled..
Holy crap! Disabled the 3-Finger-HTC-Thingy and WOW! Browser performance increased BIG time! forum.xda-developers.com (Forum Overview) used to lag ALOT before. After disabling the option and reboot, I opened the browser again and went straight to the XDA Forum Overview. Pinch-To-Zoom, Double-Tap and scrolling feel like they're about 300% smoother now. No lag whatsoever, except for the small lag for text reflow and orientation changing.
BIG thank you! Browsing is now way more fun
I actually did what you recommended hamdir and stock browser along with the entire UI for some reason seem quicker. Thanx.
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Holy crap! Disabled the 3-Finger-HTC-Thingy and WOW! Browser performance increased BIG time! forum.xda-developers.com (Forum Overview) used to lag ALOT before. After disabling the option and reboot, I opened the browser again and went straight to the XDA Forum Overview. Pinch-To-Zoom, Double-Tap and scrolling feel like they're about 300% smoother now. No lag whatsoever, except for the small lag for text reflow and orientation changing.
BIG thank you! Browsing is now way more fun
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I actually did what you recommended hamdir and stock browser along with the entire UI for some reason seem quicker. Thanx.
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yes because the gesture setting botches the screen multi-touch abilities in order to capture their gesture which sends the image to the Medialink, its cropping 10 finger detection into 3 finger which is surely confusing apps
Typical stupid HTC weird feature/self induced bug!
seeing that the One X 10 finger capture videos, i think we have Nvidia's DirectTouch implemented?
Excellent, thanks to everyone. my phone is now perfect.
Beautiful fix. Thanks
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I didn't experience the stock browser confusion and stutter described by many including the Phone Arena review
I think it's actually caused by HTC 3 fingers gestures mode which disable full multi touch abilites, this gesture mode is used to send image to the HDMI dongle by 3 fingers swipe
with this setting off the browser ran locked 60fps like the video below, only the screen flashing/tiling for a split second when it snaps, its so smooth you don't mind the snapping effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
can everyone who experience browser issues and corruptions issues, try the following:
- Clear the notification area, it can cause interference with the browser, thanks to emahmood87 for finding this
- Disable 3 Gesture swipe HTC mode, to fix browser UI confusion and stutter
- Make sure all the develop options are unticked, a few of these options can cause screen flashing etc
- Disable Settings>Power>Fastboot mode, this can cause incompatibility with certain apps
reboot your phone and report back
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Thank you for this nice fix hamdir, it just shows that if we be a little patient all this problems will be minimised at minimum.
so does this only fix your browser issues? or other graphical glitches?
I had posted this fix 2 days ago..http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...&highlight=jumping+screen#post24556551...this fix minimizes the glitches but doesnt remove them completely...thats what i've noticed and some of the others as well!
Under development options make sure you untick don't keep activities. It will restart ALL apps including Rosie.apk. Hence so many sense restarts every time you leave an app.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium HD app
Have it ticked or unticked? got brain drain can't figure out what you mean lol
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so does this only fix your browser issues? or other graphical glitches?
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helped the browser only didn't have any other graphical glitches before anyway.
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Have it ticked or unticked? got brain drain can't figure out what you mean lol
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Wow. That's some serious brain drain. He said untick, not tick.
Hi guys I just bought my Tab S 10.5 (T800) a couple of days ago, however I'm finding some annoyances, that are giving me a headache when using it and are making me think, to return it
1) When i'm scrolling a website or flipboard in my usual way/speed the text/images appears to jump a tinny bit like if it's stuttering, instead of smooth transitions.
2) When the keyboard "launches" it doesn't matter if I turn off the animations or put them at .5 or 1x, when on the browser I'm trying to type something on a search bar there is a white tail before and after the keyboard launch, this tail makes the content on the bottom of the keyboard to appears like a flash. However this doesn't happen when trying to type an url, This is better noticed on a dark background for example go to this site mary-black.net (or whatever site which has an embedded search and uses a dark background) and launch the keyboard trying to type something on the search bar and then hide the keyboard.
The keyboard "white tail" doesn't happen on my sero 7 pro running an AOSP rom, however it has some stuttering while browsing, but I though it was because some kind of underpower, because my S4 running a touchwiz rom it doesn't stutter at all it's like butter on every single scrolling page/app/etc but it has also that "white tail" sometimes but it's so quick and is not my main browsing device, so I was trying to replace my main tablet an ipad 2 (7.1.2) which it browse like a champ exactly as my S4 and is way better than this Tab S
yeah I have tried a lot of browsers, maxthon, chrome, firefox,opera, dolphin, boat, and the less worst is the stock one
Oh and also it seems to not hold webpages on ram, because when I go to a link and then go back, instead of showing me the content right away, it shows a blank page and suddenly the content, however this a problem because if i was on a search or something it brings me to the top of the page again, and also typing something on a search is laggy, the letter don't go with the keystroke.
BTW: I don't use touchwiz launcher, I'm using nova/apex.
I have enabled also Force GPU Rendering and Turn off/on hardware overlays. nothing seems to fix it.
Also have found that the performance is not consistent at all, sometimes the apps load very fast, browse very fast and it's a pleasure, but sometimes it lags, yeah not like a minute or so, but the overall experience using it, is not something I was expecting, I was expecting at least the same behavior of my S4 and S2 and way better than my old ipad 2, and unfortunately none of those are met
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
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Cool, I have a feeling that you tough I was trolling , well here they are, this one shows the ugly white tale, and it also happens using google keyboard, and any keyboard.
http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I
As you can see that "white tale" is not present when trying to type an url.
Here is one with the stutter very visible.
http://youtu.be/f9DHYdlc4d0
Here is one showing the reloading on going back. which btw it also shows how with only one finger touching the screen it sometimes act as 2 (pinch to zoom) this little problem is very rare but it's not the first time has happen, and you can see the lag on the keyboard before launching also, there is that "white" then the keyboard.
fingers http://youtu.be/axCsmkgCXws
Here is one comparing the scrolling on the same content first the ipad 2 and then the tab S
http://youtu.be/0TYgm43eBxc
The ipad also has a bit stuttering, but not as much as the S, which IMO this should not be happening, the S has way more power/ram than the old ipad 2
I hope yours is not acting like this, could you please provide a video if yours is working at it supposed to be..
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1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
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Yeah the more you start using the tablet, the more stuttering it appears, and also when trying to open the recent apps, sometimes there is also a lot of lag until everything appear. The problem with this is they are not predictable.
I tried that keyboard and is doing me exactly the same (white tale), I think this is because instead of launching the keyboard and the placeholder at the same time, they are launched a different time, and I have just confirmed this enabling Layout boundaries under developer options. :/
My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
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My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
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I bet it's software issues, launching the placeholder for the keyboard before and after the keyboard. But to be honest I don't want to install Cyanogen or aosp to this tablet, because that will break sidesync, multi window, s planner and s finder. if I would need to flash those roms to be able to enjoy the hardware then I would go with a boring but trusty ipad or wait to see what is announced on september at the IFA.
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
Replacing the launcher has zero effect on anything except launching an app!
There might be some touchwiz related code behind the scenes, but to replace that you need a revised ROM.
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- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
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I'm using Nova or Apex, yeah those don't have lag on the major of transitions, but sometimes they stutter just a bit, yeah not a breaking deal. But the stuttering while browsing/reading and the keyboard issue is making me have headaches, and that will not be solved using another launcher.
I understand that point regarding iOS, but trust me, my S4 is running on a touchwiz rom and it doesn't act like this tab S, geez even my old S2 never acted like this.
Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
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Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
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I run excel spreadsheets while browsing for making quotes, compare values and stuff like that, need to compare spreadsheets with word documents, to give you an idea I use 3 monitors for my desktop.
So actually multiwindow is a very usefull "gadget" for me, and that's what got my attention, the 3gb of ram I though well this will handle my workload with out a problem, 10.5" screen good space for multi window, and well the exynos ? I would prefer a snapdragon version, but I don't need LTE on my tablet as always I can theter from my S4, and none local store have one with snapdragon in case I need to return it or something.
And yeah GMD Gestures is a must for a tablet.
I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
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I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
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Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
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Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
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OK I see your problem. The fade animation is working properly when you select the address bar but not when you select a text box on the actual website. I think this is just the website re rendering as the keyboard closes since you were interacting with it. You only really notice it because the background of your website is dark.
I believe this is a stock browser thing as it does not do this using Dolphin.
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No. Mine does a nice fade and drop down animation. What yours is doing should not be happening.
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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
EDIT: Well this happen on white pages also, "covering" what is on screen. I did that on a dark background because is more apparent. If I enable layout bounds on developer options it shows that the placeholder is triggering before the actual keyboard. Tomorrow i will make a video with the layouts enabled.
And mine is doing it with every browser i have tested.
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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
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I changed my original post. I think you missed it. Yes I am getting same thing in stock browser. This does not occur using Dolphin. Not a Tab S issue. A stock browser issue. The dark background of your website makes it more noticeable.
Update. Does it in Chrome browser too. If that bothers you try Dolphin browser.
I got the same white tail issue also in chrome browser.
Dolphin doesn't do that, gives a bit better re-rendering. But Dolphin mini also struggles. Weird.
Both are slightly more sluggish in scrolling, that's most important, so I sorted them out.
Also that nonsens gesture implementation (requires to press a button first) did not win me.
There is one thing the stock browser by far does the best of any browser I have tried. Play embedded video clips. Dolphin? You may as well not bother. Expect 10+ second load times. Using a little firewall hack I'm getting almost instant video loads in stock with no buffering lag.
The little white flash when closing the keyboard is a non issue for me, especially when using a website with a white background. Don't even notice it.
maybe try to debloat the ROM and then go into developer options to change the animations to .5 or disable them entire(I disable them in all android devices I own)
Well I don't know what happen, I did some factory reset like 3 in a row, then the first thing I did was, go straight to update chrome to 36.0.1985.131 and now it's working at it should. Yeah with some occasional stutter, mostly when launching an app. But not like was doing it before. The white tale is still there but not as heavy like it was before.
I am looking for help with my SM-T800 and Web browsing in particular.
The problem is that it is slow and stutters when moving up and down a page. I find it outstanding that a tablet as new as this can be this bad. I have tried the stock, chrome, dolphin and UC browsers and out of all of them UC is the better one but still in my view really bad.
I'm on 4.4.2 with no OTA when I check for an update(I'm in the UK) so I guess the only option is to update through Odin but I want to see if this can be sorted out first.
I have disabled most of the stuff that I don't use and can without rooting it. I have tried a compleat wipe but still no better. I also have a Note 4 so I know about TW slowing things down but this is ridiculous.
Any help would be great and by the way I'm more used to using an ipad air 2
I have the same T800 and am in the UK, running stock 4.4.2 same as you, I use the built in chrome and it seems smooth as silk, what pages are you browing are they full of flash or photo.
Chrome has an data saver, it compresses the data to make it smaller so you use less, it keep it on, but you can turn it off, in the settings.
edit: just tried browing ebay for all the photo`s no problems at all scrolling up and down a massive page.
John.
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I have the same T800 and am in the UK, running stock 4.4.2 same as you, I use the built in chrome and it seems smooth as silk, what pages are you browing are they full of flash or photo.
Chrome has an data saver, it compresses the data to make it smaller so you use less, it keep it on, but you can turn it off, in the settings.
edit: just tried browing ebay for all the photo`s no problems at all scrolling up and down a massive page.
John.
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Well this is one of the sites that it bad along with android central. Chrome was probably the worst of the browsers. I have even tried AdBlock Plus.
Ok, I tried Android Central, it is stuttery while the page is loading, but once that is done it scrolls fine, do you have a slow connection and you are scrolling while the page is loading, i dont have any addblock on at all.
EDIT: I tried it in desktop mode and Android Central is very choppy and the pages take forever to load, I am going to give Dolphin browser a go.
John.
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Well this is one of the sites that it bad along with android central. Chrome was probably the worst of the browsers. I have even tried AdBlock Plus.
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Ok, I tried Android Central, it is stuttery while the page is loading, but once that is done it scrolls fine, do you have a slow connection and you are scrolling while the page is loading, i dont have any addblock on at all.
John.
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I have around 150mbps so Internet speed is not a problem. Even if I wait for the page to load it stutters and jumps, very inconsistent scrolling. Even my old Surface 2 which is Windows RT blows it into the weeds for both speed and smoothness.
Ok, I never liked browsing the net on a tablet, i prefer using a notebook with a mouse, so maybe i am putting up with a lot of problems, pages do take longer to load on a tablet.
Have a look at a few Sam Tab S review video`s on youtube and see if they notice a problem. while using the browser.
John.
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I have around 150mbps so Internet speed is not a problem. Even if I wait for the page to load it stutters and jumps, very inconsistent scrolling. Even my old Surface 2 which is Windows RT blows it into the weeds for both speed and smoothness.
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Ok, I never liked browsing the net on a tablet, i prefer using a notebook with a mouse, so maybe i am putting up with a lot of problems, pages do take longer to load on a tablet.
Have a look at a few Sam Tab S review video`s on youtube and see if they notice a problem. while using the browser.
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I will have another look but for me the tab s is unusable.
Android Central is more of a problem than the S 10.5 browsers. That site loads slow with IE on my PC. TOO MANY ADS and it really is hosed up on a tablet as the text isn't formatted very well for a tablet. I can't even login because the menu uption for the store overlays the menu item for login!
Someone there needs to clean it up. You would figure they would want to attract the smart phone and tablet users. It's not going to happen with a mess like they have there.
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Android Central is more of a problem than the S 10.5 browsers. That site loads slow with IE on my PC. TOO MANY ADS and it really is hosed up on a tablet as the text isn't formatted very well for a tablet. I can't even login because the menu uption for the store overlays the menu item for login!
Someone there needs to clean it up. You would figure they would want to attract the smart phone and tablet users. It's not going to happen with a mess like they have there.
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Yeah I noticed even on my ipad air 2 that android central loads the page really slow as I'm scrolling up and down the page. To log into there I had to tap on the reply to a thread so that it would redirect me to the login.
I found this 2015 android browser review, now i just need to know what it means.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best...ition-design-features-and-performance_id67848
John.
You should try to update to Lollipop via odin since this bug has been mostly fixed. Even XDA was a nightmare for me on KK but now it is smoother
Dag, if you want to put a browser to the test load that review page tinderbox put up a link to! I waited almost 4 minutes for it to load in IE 11!
It is the ads and stupid massive signatures that cause the scrolling issue. Ad blockers help here.
This site is terrible for it. I've used all the browsers and stock deals with it the best.
Turning off java script helps also, but then you can't log in. :sly:
Use the free xda app and things are much better. Use the premium and there's no ads and no lag at all.
If you are are experiencing issues with Google's Chrome browser try this.
Chrome Samsung support library
I will echo quite a few of the reviews and info I found online about it. I don't know what it is or what it does but it makes chrome perform much much smoother. Pages load faster, videos play quicker, more types of videos play, and overall the smoothness of browsing with chrome improves. Try it out, since it is an official google app it should not harm your tablet and it helped me.
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If you are are experiencing issues with Google's Chrome browser try this.
Chrome Samsung support library
I will echo quite a few of the reviews and info I found online about it. I don't know what it is or what it does but it makes chrome perform much much smoother. Pages load faster, videos play quicker, more types of videos play, and overall the smoothness of browsing with chrome improves. Try it out, since it is an official google app it should not harm your tablet and it helped me.
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It stopped my AdBlock after I downloaded it.
Good to know, I only use the plugin version of ad block in firefox and I only blacklist sites that do auto redirecting ads so I didn't know it could pr would do that.
Well as an update to this thread I went into a Samsung centre today and asked but I also tried one they had there and wow it was the same. They looked at mine and said that it was normal.
How this thing can be normal is beyond me, it only came out last year and it is like using something from 4 or 5 years ago. I couldn't use this thing as a tablet, okay I can get past how uncomfortable it is to hold because of the small bezels but the lag is sh!t. Surly to god I shouldn't have to move my finger 1-1.5 inches before the page starts to move.
Also things like the YouTube app, it keeps stopping the video with a "network error" message.
My other tablets are an ipad air 2, Surface 3 and a Surface 3 pro and my wife has a Surface 2 and they areally all smoother than this.
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My other tablets are an ipad air 2, Surface 3 and a Surface 3 pro and my wife has a Surface 2 and they areally all smoother than this.
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Might just be my next purchase. I'm kinda done with Android as a whole. Not one device I have that runs Android can come close to a Windows machine for usability. But I think I'm expecting too much so I'm not upset about it. I'll just use it for a bit longer and see what develops....
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Also things like the YouTube app, it keeps stopping the video with a "network error" message
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Could be problems on your network? Youtube works pretty well for me.
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Might just be my next purchase. I'm kinda done with Android as a whole. Not one device I have that runs Android can come close to a Windows machine for usability. But I think I'm expecting too much so I'm not upset about it. I'll just use it for a bit longer and see what develops....
Could be problems on your network? Youtube works pretty well for me.
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I'm the same I think. I just wanted an android tablet because I have a Note 4 and I will probably be getting the Note 5 when it comes out. My iPhone 6 is okay for private use but limited for work.
I'm not sure if I should get another android tablet or not but one thing for sure is that I won't be keeping this stuttering lagging thing.
It does look like a network problem with YouTube but I don't have any issues with it on any of my other devices. I never get lower than 130mbps and I have kept an eye on my WiFi signal and it never drops but not sure if it would show if it was a quick drop.
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I'm the same I think. I just wanted an android tablet because I have a Note 4 and I will probably be getting the Note 5 when it comes out. My iPhone 6 is okay for private use but limited for work.
I'm not sure if I should get another android tablet or not but one thing for sure is that I won't be keeping this stuttering lagging thing.
It does look like a network problem with YouTube but I don't have any issues with it on any of my other devices. I never get lower than 130mbps and I have kept an eye on my WiFi signal and it never drops but not sure if it would show if it was a quick drop.
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Wifi - might be RFI from some other wireless device in the area.... I have a set of wireless rear surround speakers. They gave my wifi a fit! They didn't keep me off the network but they put so much RF in the way that I could only see about 8mbps from speedtest.net. Once I figured out they were the problem, by simply disconnecting EVERYTHING that is wireless and turning them back on one at a time, I just changed the wifi channel on the router and the speaker transmitter so they were as far apart as I could get them in the spectrum. Now, I have 30mbps from speedtest!