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Everyone having browser issues and graphical corruption - Please try these solutions!

I didn't experience the stock browser confusion and stutter described by many including the Phone Arena review
I think it's actually caused by HTC 3 fingers gestures mode which disable full multi touch abilites, this gesture mode is used to send image to the HDMI dongle by 3 fingers swipe
with this setting off the browser ran locked 60fps like the video below, only the screen flashing/tiling for a split second when it snaps, its so smooth you don't mind the snapping effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
can everyone who experience browser issues and corruptions issues, try the following:
- Clear the notification area, it can cause interference with the browser, thanks to emahmood87 for finding this
- Disable 3 Gesture swipe HTC mode, to fix browser UI confusion and stutter
- Make sure all the develop options are unticked, a few of these options can cause screen flashing etc
- Disable Settings>Power>Fastboot mode, this can cause incompatibility with certain apps
reboot your phone and report back

As you already i know it works great for me by disabling it, and again thank you for bringing it up eariler.

What is the page address in the video?
Edit: it's still stutter after disabling it, it's smoother in my htc desire/ bravo :S.

I agree the browser is smooth. No problems here in fact I am amazed that so many threads are here with complaints. I have owned lot of mobiles including the dhd, evo 3d, gs2 and iPhone 4s also galaxy nexus. And I must say this mobile is beautiful in hardware and software.
Btw
Gsmarena.com

It should be smoother and removes the lag when scrolling up and down. It won't remove the slight stutter when the text reflow kicks in however. 2 diffrent things

jedi5diah said:
Attention! I found out that the damn FASTBOOT option is causing a lot of problems esp related to camera and browser screen glitches.
My wife's one X is on fastboot and had a auto reboot and a few force closes and screen glitches started to appear, compared to mine with fastboot off from first day had non of the above mentioned issues.
Go to settings/Power then uncheck fastboot option and restart your phone.
pardon me if this has been mentioned.
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ok ill add this suggestion too
lets hope we get to the bottom of this

browser bug
Guys the glitches in browser or corruption of the url only happen when you have something in the notification tray for example you are downloading something from the market or Amazon appstore side by side or it can be anything like a message or a missed call being shown in notification tray . Just clear all notifications and use the browser there will be no glitches or corruption ever . Even in the video posted by OP the notification bar is clear . I think a future software update by HTC will resolve this software bug.

hamdir said:
ok ill add this suggestion too
lets hope we get to the bottom of this
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yeah..
some1 mentioned that *#*#4636#*#* menu toggles cant work because fast boot was enabled..

Holy crap! Disabled the 3-Finger-HTC-Thingy and WOW! Browser performance increased BIG time! forum.xda-developers.com (Forum Overview) used to lag ALOT before. After disabling the option and reboot, I opened the browser again and went straight to the XDA Forum Overview. Pinch-To-Zoom, Double-Tap and scrolling feel like they're about 300% smoother now. No lag whatsoever, except for the small lag for text reflow and orientation changing.
BIG thank you! Browsing is now way more fun

I actually did what you recommended hamdir and stock browser along with the entire UI for some reason seem quicker. Thanx.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

Try4Ce said:
Holy crap! Disabled the 3-Finger-HTC-Thingy and WOW! Browser performance increased BIG time! forum.xda-developers.com (Forum Overview) used to lag ALOT before. After disabling the option and reboot, I opened the browser again and went straight to the XDA Forum Overview. Pinch-To-Zoom, Double-Tap and scrolling feel like they're about 300% smoother now. No lag whatsoever, except for the small lag for text reflow and orientation changing.
BIG thank you! Browsing is now way more fun
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djolebih said:
I actually did what you recommended hamdir and stock browser along with the entire UI for some reason seem quicker. Thanx.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
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yes because the gesture setting botches the screen multi-touch abilities in order to capture their gesture which sends the image to the Medialink, its cropping 10 finger detection into 3 finger which is surely confusing apps
Typical stupid HTC weird feature/self induced bug!
seeing that the One X 10 finger capture videos, i think we have Nvidia's DirectTouch implemented?

Excellent, thanks to everyone. my phone is now perfect.

Beautiful fix. Thanks

hamdir said:
I didn't experience the stock browser confusion and stutter described by many including the Phone Arena review
I think it's actually caused by HTC 3 fingers gestures mode which disable full multi touch abilites, this gesture mode is used to send image to the HDMI dongle by 3 fingers swipe
with this setting off the browser ran locked 60fps like the video below, only the screen flashing/tiling for a split second when it snaps, its so smooth you don't mind the snapping effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
can everyone who experience browser issues and corruptions issues, try the following:
- Clear the notification area, it can cause interference with the browser, thanks to emahmood87 for finding this
- Disable 3 Gesture swipe HTC mode, to fix browser UI confusion and stutter
- Make sure all the develop options are unticked, a few of these options can cause screen flashing etc
- Disable Settings>Power>Fastboot mode, this can cause incompatibility with certain apps
reboot your phone and report back
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Thank you for this nice fix hamdir, it just shows that if we be a little patient all this problems will be minimised at minimum.

so does this only fix your browser issues? or other graphical glitches?

I had posted this fix 2 days ago..http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...&highlight=jumping+screen#post24556551...this fix minimizes the glitches but doesnt remove them completely...thats what i've noticed and some of the others as well!

Under development options make sure you untick don't keep activities. It will restart ALL apps including Rosie.apk. Hence so many sense restarts every time you leave an app.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium HD app

Have it ticked or unticked? got brain drain can't figure out what you mean lol

hamdir said:
so does this only fix your browser issues? or other graphical glitches?
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helped the browser only didn't have any other graphical glitches before anyway.

r0cafella said:
Have it ticked or unticked? got brain drain can't figure out what you mean lol
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Wow. That's some serious brain drain. He said untick, not tick.

ANY Browser is Unusable on One X

Hello,
The stock browser on the One X does not work on any medium-heavy website. Pinch to zoom and double tap start stuttering and makes the experience unusable. I then rooted and flashed a couple of different roms but they all offer the exact same issues/experience to me. I have tried Chrome, Dolphin and Opera and they all give me the same issues.
This video on YouTube is EXACTLY how my One X acts with any browser I have installed... I unchecked Fastboot inside settings and that did nothing. Its not Adobe Flash because it stutters even when Flash is uninstalled. I also disabled re-flow of text but the issues persist.
Any ideas on what is the cause of this? This is a huge issue for me because I do not think I have warranty since I bought this phone unlocked from overseas.What can I do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac

From my experience, stock browser is very fast and smooth, even browse to xda or other desktop websites are just good.
Dolphin hd performs much the same as stock one, but with 3 dot menu.
Chrome beta is laggy when compared with the two above.
Are you using 3g or WiFi? Which website you experience problem? Let me have a try!
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I am having this problem with guardian.co.uk, engadget.com, theverge.com any heavy website. I have tried it on wifi and 3G with 3 different roms but the browser performs the exact same.
My browser acts identical to what you see in the YouTube link.

For me browser is lightning. You may have a hardware dud

Its only after I disabled Javascript and Auto-flow that did the browser become a little usable... What would that have anything to do with? If I were to go complete back to stock would that change anything?

ClaudiuJer said:
I am having this problem with guardian.co.uk, engadget.com, theverge.com any heavy website. I have tried it on wifi and 3G with 3 different roms but the browser performs the exact same.
My browser acts identical to what you see in the YouTube link.
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I just try the websites you listed using 3G connection with Dolphin HD.
I can't said it is 100% smooth, especially when the site is still loading, but sure it is NOT unusable. Zoom and double tap are so smooth after loading complete.
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I just watch the youtube video, actually my browser performs about the same as in the video.
I wonder if your expectation is too high? This is just a phone with limited memory, viewing complex website is not recommended, and navigation is also difficult. You can view the mobile site and the corresponding App if available.

Exactly my point. My galaxy s2 had much better web browsing than this, heck even my Nexus S was better. Its a quad core phone it should handle these website easy.
Edit: Then why are there videos of the One X with butter smooth web browsing on YouTube and others say the same on here? Mine is as bad if not worse than what the video shows. It crashes constantly with new tabs.

Using quad-core not necessary means that it is smoother in viewing a web page. I didn't try other machines you mention, maybe look for others comment on this.
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ClaudiuJer said:
Exactly my point. My galaxy s2 had much better web browsing than this, heck even my Nexus S was better. Its a quad core phone it should handle these website easy.
Edit: Then why are there videos of the One X with butter smooth web browsing on YouTube and others say the same on here? Mine is as bad if not worse than what the video shows. It crashes constantly with new tabs.
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I can just said my one performs about the same as in your youtube video, and I'm satisfy with it.

I agree with the OP. The web browsing experience should be better. It can be done..
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

have you tried any of the browser benchmarks like browsermark or sunspider just to see if the performance is up to par?

I'm very satisfied with the stock browser, it's the fasted I've tried... Second best is Dolphin IMHO. Browsing over WiFi is very very fast and scroll really smooth.
Inviato dal mio HTC One X con Tapatalk 2

Maybe take a look at System Panel or Tablet CPU Usage
and see if there is something slowing your phone in general.

ClaudiuJer said:
Hello,
The stock browser on the One X does not work on any medium-heavy website. Pinch to zoom and double tap start stuttering and makes the experience unusable. I then rooted and flashed a couple of different roms but they all offer the exact same issues/experience to me. I have tried Chrome, Dolphin and Opera and they all give me the same issues.
This video on YouTube is EXACTLY how my One X acts with any browser I have installed... I unchecked Fastboot inside settings and that did nothing. Its not Adobe Flash because it stutters even when Flash is uninstalled. I also disabled re-flow of text but the issues persist.
Any ideas on what is the cause of this? This is a huge issue for me because I do not think I have warranty since I bought this phone unlocked from overseas.What can I do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
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I agree with this, coming from being a long term iOS user the browsers available on Android are SHOCKING!
They are miles away from being as slick as the iOS browser, yes they support flash but lets face it flash on Android is buggy and rubbish anyway.
For usability Android has a long way to go, I never use the browser anymore I just use my iPad for browsing.

i tried the heavy sites like guardian.co.uk and Engadget and they open smoothly and without any shutter what so ever. while loading and even after that

I just checked stock browser on www.engadget.com and it's nothing like on that Youtube video. It's very quick and reflows in a blink of an eye. I was zooming and panning at the same time, as soon as I let go it's reflown almost instantly. I was doing it for few minutes and the way text always reflows to page width is nice and almost instantenous.
I don't know why such big difference in performance between my phone and the video.
P.S. Some browsers don't even allow to pan and zoom at the same time which is a big letdown.

Dolphin here, works flawlessly.

bleary said:
I agree with this, coming from being a long term iOS user the browsers available on Android are SHOCKING!
They are miles away from being as slick as the iOS browser, yes they support flash but lets face it flash on Android is buggy and rubbish anyway.
For usability Android has a long way to go, I never use the browser anymore I just use my iPad for browsing.
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I can't agree with this. I also own iPhone4, iPod Touch 4 and iPad2, and compare with HOX and Ipad2 on www.engadget.com, I can't feel any difference, yes HOX will have a slight different when you zoom in or out, as the browser will reflow the text, but it takes just a blink.
I also went to an telcom shop to try GSII using stock browser, the result is just the same as HOX.
Don't forget the resolutions are different between the three devices.
OP statement is that any browser is unusuable, I can't agree with this.
I personally feel that Dolphin HD is smoother than stock browser.

stm2008 said:
I can't agree with this. I also own iPhone4, iPod Touch 4 and iPad2, and compare with HOX and Ipad2 on www.engadget.com, I can't feel any difference, yes HOX will have a slight different when you zoom in or out, as the browser will reflow the text, but it takes just a blink.
I also went to an telcom shop to try GSII using stock browser, the result is just the same as HOX.
Don't forget the resolutions are different between the three devices.
OP statement is that any browser is unusuable, I can't agree with this.
I personally feel that Dolphin HD is smoother than stock browser.
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Have you watched the YouTube video, specifically when he loads the NY Times webpage? Do you not see that pinching and zoom is extremely cumbersome and delayed. The browser constantly freezes, even scrolling stops working. How can you tell me its supposed to be like this when my original Galaxy S phone is smoother than the One X. Its only after I turn off flash and javascript that it becomes a little more responsive.
@Schriss I have used other HTC One's and that is how its supposed to be. Maybe I am just an isolated case I do not know, thinking of doing a major factory reset and starting all over again.

ClaudiuJer said:
Have you watched the YouTube video, specifically when he loads the NY Times webpage? Do you not see that pinching and zoom is extremely cumbersome and delayed. The browser constantly freezes, even scrolling stops working. How can you tell me its supposed to be like this when my original Galaxy S phone is smoother than the One X. Its only after I turn off flash and javascript that it becomes a little more responsive.
@Schriss I have used other HTC One's and that is how its supposed to be. Maybe I am just an isolated case I do not know, thinking of doing a major factory reset and starting all over again.
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I didn't watch the whole video, but my browser performs just like the first part of the video, very smooth.
After reading your post, I watch the whole video again, and notice the part about www.nytimes.com, and then I try again in my HOX, to be honest, no problem at all, the browser displays the page very smooth and flawless. I can't see any problem navigating this page.
P.S. I'm using Dolphin HD, Apex launcher instead of Sense. I don't like stock browser because when I scroll down, It will lift up the menu at top and bottom, it is not as friendly and direct as Dolphin.
I just tape how I browse to the nytimes page, you can have a look.
http://db.tt/60Am6mLl
As I hold my iPad2 with left hand to record it, I just look at the iPad screen to navigate, so my finger may not point/press accurately.
It is not 100% smooth, but shouldn't be unusuable?

I find restarting the phone seems to help if the browser becomes laggy. It's strange because sometimes it is lightning quick and other times laggy and non responsive, even on the same web pages. There is no rhyme or reason to it.

[Q] Stock browser lags when scrolling

Are there any known fixes or solutions for stock browser lagging while scrolling?
My Issue...
After an extended amount of time using the browser, pages will start to "skip" or "lag" when scrolling. For example, I will place my finger on the screen to scroll a google results page, and without removing my finger I will scroll up or down (doesn't matter which), and during the scrolling I will notice the screen lag. Lag, as in the screen appears to freeze briefly, and then pick up where my finger is, giving the appearance of "lag", "skipping", or "jumping".
I think the important key here is that my finger is not removed from the screen. The problem does not occur when I flick the screen to scroll.
Noticing that the problem happened after an extended amount of time I tested clearing the cache, and force closing the browser. And that does indeed fix the problem, at-least for the time being until it begins to do it again.
Thanks for any help you guys can give, or directions you can lead me in to fix this problem.
Phone: T-Mobile Galaxy S3
ROM: CM10 Stable
App: Stock Browser

skazx said:
Are there any known fixes or solutions for stock browser lagging while scrolling?
My Issue...
After an extended amount of time using the browser, pages will start to "skip" or "lag" when scrolling. For example, I will place my finger on the screen to scroll a google results page, and without removing my finger I will scroll up or down (doesn't matter which), and during the scrolling I will notice the screen lag. Lag, as in the screen appears to freeze briefly, and then pick up where my finger is, giving the appearance of "lag", "skipping", or "jumping".
I think the important key here is that my finger is not removed from the screen. The problem does not occur when I flick the screen to scroll.
Noticing that the problem happened after an extended amount of time I tested clearing the cache, and force closing the browser. And that does indeed fix the problem, at-least for the time being until it begins to do it again.
Thanks for any help you guys can give, or directions you can lead me in to fix this problem.
Phone: T-Mobile Galaxy S3
ROM: CM10 Stable
App: Stock Browser
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try firefox

russeini said:
try firefox
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I've found the stock browser to be the quickest in regards to overall use. So, I'd rather stick with stock if possible.

I had a few issues with the stock browser as well, what you mentioned as well as some others. I use Chrome on my PC so mobile Chrome was the obvious choice. There is nothing you can do to fix it. Except to stop using it.

Aerowinder said:
I had a few issues with the stock browser as well, what you mentioned as well as some others. I use Chrome on my PC so mobile Chrome was the obvious choice. There is nothing you can do to fix it. Except to stop using it.
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Bummer. I don't remember this issue with my past phones (g2, g1). Just seems like it's not "releasing" cached data perhaps? I don't know, guess I'll concede and give another a browser a try. Hope text re-flow has improved in the non-stock browsers.
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Boat browser...
If u want to stick with stock... then stick with lag.
Boat is faster anyways
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

[Q] screen and browse poor responsiveness

Hello,
Just got a note 2014 for xmas. So far I like it but noticed 2 annoying things that I'm not sure are defects or just software issues.
1. Scrolling up and down the page sometime stops as if it doesn't recognize it's still there moving. Also does this on pinch to zoom. The developer options still show my fingers moving on the screen but the browser is doing nothing.
2. Scrolling in website pages are slow to re-render with fuzzy pictures and sometimes Grey blocks.
Just wondering so I can exchange it if needed. Maybe I should have went with the xperia z tablet
Thanks

KingShadO said:
Hello,
Just got a note 2014 for xmas. So far I like it but noticed 2 annoying things that I'm not sure are defects or just software issues.
1. Scrolling up and down the page sometime stops as if it doesn't recognize it's still there moving. Also does this on pinch to zoom. The developer options still show my fingers moving on the screen but the browser is doing nothing.
2. Scrolling in website pages are slow to re-render with fuzzy pictures and sometimes Grey blocks.
Just wondering so I can exchange it if needed. Maybe I should have went with the xperia z tablet
Thanks
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It would be incredibly odd that there would be a graphics problem related to h/w that only affected browser performance. Most likely it's a s/w problem created by something you've loaded on your device. Does it do it after a hard reset and before you load any of your apps? If so, it's a h/w problem. If not, it's something you've done after-the-fact.
Samsung moved from WebKit to Chromium starting with the browsers in the N3 and N10.1-14. They definitely "feel' different but if you measure their overall performance (total time to render, manipulating the screen during rendering) they perform a little better.
Here are two videos. The first is my unrooted N10.1-14 opening three different news sites after the cache and RAM was cleared. WSJ and Fox are very heavy. The N10.1-14 handles them fine. The second is a comparison of my N2 and N3 opening the same sites side-by-side. They're pretty comparable (you'd expect the N3 to be noticeably faster) except on the text heavy WSJ site where the N3 pulls ahead. IMHO, the browser in the N10.1-14 outperforms the browser in my ex-N10.1-12 on heavy sites and is about the same with lighter ones.

This was in note stock browser and chrome. No change after factory reset. I will try to take a vid.
Thanks

[Q] A bit disappointed of the Tab S (stuttering/lag).is there any trick to fix them?

Hi guys I just bought my Tab S 10.5 (T800) a couple of days ago, however I'm finding some annoyances, that are giving me a headache when using it and are making me think, to return it
1) When i'm scrolling a website or flipboard in my usual way/speed the text/images appears to jump a tinny bit like if it's stuttering, instead of smooth transitions.
2) When the keyboard "launches" it doesn't matter if I turn off the animations or put them at .5 or 1x, when on the browser I'm trying to type something on a search bar there is a white tail before and after the keyboard launch, this tail makes the content on the bottom of the keyboard to appears like a flash. However this doesn't happen when trying to type an url, This is better noticed on a dark background for example go to this site mary-black.net (or whatever site which has an embedded search and uses a dark background) and launch the keyboard trying to type something on the search bar and then hide the keyboard.
The keyboard "white tail" doesn't happen on my sero 7 pro running an AOSP rom, however it has some stuttering while browsing, but I though it was because some kind of underpower, because my S4 running a touchwiz rom it doesn't stutter at all it's like butter on every single scrolling page/app/etc but it has also that "white tail" sometimes but it's so quick and is not my main browsing device, so I was trying to replace my main tablet an ipad 2 (7.1.2) which it browse like a champ exactly as my S4 and is way better than this Tab S
yeah I have tried a lot of browsers, maxthon, chrome, firefox,opera, dolphin, boat, and the less worst is the stock one
Oh and also it seems to not hold webpages on ram, because when I go to a link and then go back, instead of showing me the content right away, it shows a blank page and suddenly the content, however this a problem because if i was on a search or something it brings me to the top of the page again, and also typing something on a search is laggy, the letter don't go with the keystroke.
BTW: I don't use touchwiz launcher, I'm using nova/apex.
I have enabled also Force GPU Rendering and Turn off/on hardware overlays. nothing seems to fix it.
Also have found that the performance is not consistent at all, sometimes the apps load very fast, browse very fast and it's a pleasure, but sometimes it lags, yeah not like a minute or so, but the overall experience using it, is not something I was expecting, I was expecting at least the same behavior of my S4 and S2 and way better than my old ipad 2, and unfortunately none of those are met
Any ideas ?
Thanks.

You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.

1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?

kenkiller said:
You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
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Cool, I have a feeling that you tough I was trolling , well here they are, this one shows the ugly white tale, and it also happens using google keyboard, and any keyboard.
http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I
As you can see that "white tale" is not present when trying to type an url.
Here is one with the stutter very visible.
http://youtu.be/f9DHYdlc4d0
Here is one showing the reloading on going back. which btw it also shows how with only one finger touching the screen it sometimes act as 2 (pinch to zoom) this little problem is very rare but it's not the first time has happen, and you can see the lag on the keyboard before launching also, there is that "white" then the keyboard.
fingers http://youtu.be/axCsmkgCXws
Here is one comparing the scrolling on the same content first the ipad 2 and then the tab S
http://youtu.be/0TYgm43eBxc
The ipad also has a bit stuttering, but not as much as the S, which IMO this should not be happening, the S has way more power/ram than the old ipad 2
I hope yours is not acting like this, could you please provide a video if yours is working at it supposed to be..
pibach said:
1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
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Yeah the more you start using the tablet, the more stuttering it appears, and also when trying to open the recent apps, sometimes there is also a lot of lag until everything appear. The problem with this is they are not predictable.
I tried that keyboard and is doing me exactly the same (white tale), I think this is because instead of launching the keyboard and the placeholder at the same time, they are launched a different time, and I have just confirmed this enabling Layout boundaries under developer options. :/

My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.

pibach said:
My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
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I bet it's software issues, launching the placeholder for the keyboard before and after the keyboard. But to be honest I don't want to install Cyanogen or aosp to this tablet, because that will break sidesync, multi window, s planner and s finder. if I would need to flash those roms to be able to enjoy the hardware then I would go with a boring but trusty ipad or wait to see what is announced on september at the IFA.

- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.

Replacing the launcher has zero effect on anything except launching an app!
There might be some touchwiz related code behind the scenes, but to replace that you need a revised ROM.

ShadowFlare said:
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
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I'm using Nova or Apex, yeah those don't have lag on the major of transitions, but sometimes they stutter just a bit, yeah not a breaking deal. But the stuttering while browsing/reading and the keyboard issue is making me have headaches, and that will not be solved using another launcher.
I understand that point regarding iOS, but trust me, my S4 is running on a touchwiz rom and it doesn't act like this tab S, geez even my old S2 never acted like this.

Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.

pibach said:
Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
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I run excel spreadsheets while browsing for making quotes, compare values and stuff like that, need to compare spreadsheets with word documents, to give you an idea I use 3 monitors for my desktop.
So actually multiwindow is a very usefull "gadget" for me, and that's what got my attention, the 3gb of ram I though well this will handle my workload with out a problem, 10.5" screen good space for multi window, and well the exynos ? I would prefer a snapdragon version, but I don't need LTE on my tablet as always I can theter from my S4, and none local store have one with snapdragon in case I need to return it or something.
And yeah GMD Gestures is a must for a tablet.

I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.

mitchellvii said:
I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
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Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?

CyberManiaK said:
Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
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OK I see your problem. The fade animation is working properly when you select the address bar but not when you select a text box on the actual website. I think this is just the website re rendering as the keyboard closes since you were interacting with it. You only really notice it because the background of your website is dark.
I believe this is a stock browser thing as it does not do this using Dolphin.

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No. Mine does a nice fade and drop down animation. What yours is doing should not be happening.
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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
EDIT: Well this happen on white pages also, "covering" what is on screen. I did that on a dark background because is more apparent. If I enable layout bounds on developer options it shows that the placeholder is triggering before the actual keyboard. Tomorrow i will make a video with the layouts enabled.
And mine is doing it with every browser i have tested.

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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
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I changed my original post. I think you missed it. Yes I am getting same thing in stock browser. This does not occur using Dolphin. Not a Tab S issue. A stock browser issue. The dark background of your website makes it more noticeable.
Update. Does it in Chrome browser too. If that bothers you try Dolphin browser.

I got the same white tail issue also in chrome browser.
Dolphin doesn't do that, gives a bit better re-rendering. But Dolphin mini also struggles. Weird.
Both are slightly more sluggish in scrolling, that's most important, so I sorted them out.
Also that nonsens gesture implementation (requires to press a button first) did not win me.

There is one thing the stock browser by far does the best of any browser I have tried. Play embedded video clips. Dolphin? You may as well not bother. Expect 10+ second load times. Using a little firewall hack I'm getting almost instant video loads in stock with no buffering lag.
The little white flash when closing the keyboard is a non issue for me, especially when using a website with a white background. Don't even notice it.

maybe try to debloat the ROM and then go into developer options to change the animations to .5 or disable them entire(I disable them in all android devices I own)

Well I don't know what happen, I did some factory reset like 3 in a row, then the first thing I did was, go straight to update chrome to 36.0.1985.131 and now it's working at it should. Yeah with some occasional stutter, mostly when launching an app. But not like was doing it before. The white tale is still there but not as heavy like it was before.