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X scope browser?

Ive been using this browser since I got the phone, and it is by FAR the best best browser ive used. Better than the standard browser, dolphin hd, skyfire easily. Its very fast and great to use. But has anyone noticed issues with this last update. It appears to be fine on reinstallation, but within a couple if hours it struggles to render pages and gets gradually worse slowing it down completely.? An uninstall and reinstall gets it back speedy again, but them it just repeats. I clear cache, etc exit and go back in, but it just sticks until I uninstall it. The writer has been great in getting back to me etc and had updated the browser many times improving it, but just want to know if anyone else had noticed this?

Dunbad said:
Ive been using this browser since I got the phone, and it is by FAR the best best browser ive used. Better than the standard browser, dolphin hd, skyfire easily. Its very fast and great to use. But has anyone noticed issues with this last update. It appears to be fine on reinstallation, but within a couple if hours it struggles to render pages and gets gradually worse slowing it down completely.? An uninstall and reinstall gets it back speedy again, but them it just repeats. I clear cache, etc exit and go back in, but it just sticks until I uninstall it. The writer has been great in getting back to me etc and had updated the browser many times improving it, but just want to know if anyone else had noticed this?
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What happens when you kill the process or reboot ?
I will try this browser.

Dunbad said:
Ive been using this browser since I got the phone, and it is by FAR the best best browser ive used. Better than the standard browser, dolphin hd, skyfire easily. Its very fast and great to use. But has anyone noticed issues with this last update. It appears to be fine on reinstallation, but within a couple if hours it struggles to render pages and gets gradually worse slowing it down completely.? An uninstall and reinstall gets it back speedy again, but them it just repeats. I clear cache, etc exit and go back in, but it just sticks until I uninstall it. The writer has been great in getting back to me etc and had updated the browser many times improving it, but just want to know if anyone else had noticed this?
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Sounds a bit crap to me. And it's still better than the Dophin one? In which way? I'm unlikely to ever pay for a browser, but i'd be interested to know why you think it's an improvement. Dolphin is really fast for me - hard to see how it can be much faster, to be honest. Bookmarks are fairly easy to use (except it's a pain to set the homepage - you have to cut and paste it into a sub-sub-sub menu, but you only have to do that once, so it's not a big deal).

This is better than dolphin hd because it (was) faster. Alot faster. Honestly it creamed along compared to dolphin. Also I like the pin zoom of x scope. You double tap the screen, then slide left or right to zoom in or out. Single handed zooming and holding the phone very handy. Download youtube videos (which I think still exists on xscope, but not on dolphin. Updates came in thick and fast and it was a great browser. It maybe still, but for some reason, its just slowed right down before stalling completely eventually. But I was trying to confirm if this was just me or my handset. My other browsers work fine load fine etc. connections good, just slowed right up for me.
I guess it can be perhaps abit complicated at first when you use it, but once your in, that thing was zippy as hell!

An update came through on this. And its fixed.
not sure what was up with it, but its back.

It's a good browser, but requires a payment = unappealing to most. It doesn't offer enough over the free browsers to make it appealing to the masses. It has its small niche though.
The single tap-slide zoom is an incredible usage idea. The browser does have other polishes on it too, no doubt.
I didn't have the issues you were having with it.
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It's a good browser, but requires a payment = unappealing to most. It doesn't offer enough over the free browsers to make it appealing to the masses. It has its small niche though.
The single tap-slide zoom is an incredible usage idea. The browser does have other polishes on it too, no doubt.
I didn't have the issues you were having with it.
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Yeah, that single pin zoom comes in handy. PinCH zoom is no good if you wanna browse the net and have a cigarette at the same time!

Give up smoking :-D

ANY Browser is Unusable on One X

Hello,
The stock browser on the One X does not work on any medium-heavy website. Pinch to zoom and double tap start stuttering and makes the experience unusable. I then rooted and flashed a couple of different roms but they all offer the exact same issues/experience to me. I have tried Chrome, Dolphin and Opera and they all give me the same issues.
This video on YouTube is EXACTLY how my One X acts with any browser I have installed... I unchecked Fastboot inside settings and that did nothing. Its not Adobe Flash because it stutters even when Flash is uninstalled. I also disabled re-flow of text but the issues persist.
Any ideas on what is the cause of this? This is a huge issue for me because I do not think I have warranty since I bought this phone unlocked from overseas.What can I do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac

From my experience, stock browser is very fast and smooth, even browse to xda or other desktop websites are just good.
Dolphin hd performs much the same as stock one, but with 3 dot menu.
Chrome beta is laggy when compared with the two above.
Are you using 3g or WiFi? Which website you experience problem? Let me have a try!
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I am having this problem with guardian.co.uk, engadget.com, theverge.com any heavy website. I have tried it on wifi and 3G with 3 different roms but the browser performs the exact same.
My browser acts identical to what you see in the YouTube link.

For me browser is lightning. You may have a hardware dud

Its only after I disabled Javascript and Auto-flow that did the browser become a little usable... What would that have anything to do with? If I were to go complete back to stock would that change anything?

ClaudiuJer said:
I am having this problem with guardian.co.uk, engadget.com, theverge.com any heavy website. I have tried it on wifi and 3G with 3 different roms but the browser performs the exact same.
My browser acts identical to what you see in the YouTube link.
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I just try the websites you listed using 3G connection with Dolphin HD.
I can't said it is 100% smooth, especially when the site is still loading, but sure it is NOT unusable. Zoom and double tap are so smooth after loading complete.
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I just watch the youtube video, actually my browser performs about the same as in the video.
I wonder if your expectation is too high? This is just a phone with limited memory, viewing complex website is not recommended, and navigation is also difficult. You can view the mobile site and the corresponding App if available.

Exactly my point. My galaxy s2 had much better web browsing than this, heck even my Nexus S was better. Its a quad core phone it should handle these website easy.
Edit: Then why are there videos of the One X with butter smooth web browsing on YouTube and others say the same on here? Mine is as bad if not worse than what the video shows. It crashes constantly with new tabs.

Using quad-core not necessary means that it is smoother in viewing a web page. I didn't try other machines you mention, maybe look for others comment on this.
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ClaudiuJer said:
Exactly my point. My galaxy s2 had much better web browsing than this, heck even my Nexus S was better. Its a quad core phone it should handle these website easy.
Edit: Then why are there videos of the One X with butter smooth web browsing on YouTube and others say the same on here? Mine is as bad if not worse than what the video shows. It crashes constantly with new tabs.
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I can just said my one performs about the same as in your youtube video, and I'm satisfy with it.

I agree with the OP. The web browsing experience should be better. It can be done..
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

have you tried any of the browser benchmarks like browsermark or sunspider just to see if the performance is up to par?

I'm very satisfied with the stock browser, it's the fasted I've tried... Second best is Dolphin IMHO. Browsing over WiFi is very very fast and scroll really smooth.
Inviato dal mio HTC One X con Tapatalk 2

Maybe take a look at System Panel or Tablet CPU Usage
and see if there is something slowing your phone in general.

ClaudiuJer said:
Hello,
The stock browser on the One X does not work on any medium-heavy website. Pinch to zoom and double tap start stuttering and makes the experience unusable. I then rooted and flashed a couple of different roms but they all offer the exact same issues/experience to me. I have tried Chrome, Dolphin and Opera and they all give me the same issues.
This video on YouTube is EXACTLY how my One X acts with any browser I have installed... I unchecked Fastboot inside settings and that did nothing. Its not Adobe Flash because it stutters even when Flash is uninstalled. I also disabled re-flow of text but the issues persist.
Any ideas on what is the cause of this? This is a huge issue for me because I do not think I have warranty since I bought this phone unlocked from overseas.What can I do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
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I agree with this, coming from being a long term iOS user the browsers available on Android are SHOCKING!
They are miles away from being as slick as the iOS browser, yes they support flash but lets face it flash on Android is buggy and rubbish anyway.
For usability Android has a long way to go, I never use the browser anymore I just use my iPad for browsing.

i tried the heavy sites like guardian.co.uk and Engadget and they open smoothly and without any shutter what so ever. while loading and even after that

I just checked stock browser on www.engadget.com and it's nothing like on that Youtube video. It's very quick and reflows in a blink of an eye. I was zooming and panning at the same time, as soon as I let go it's reflown almost instantly. I was doing it for few minutes and the way text always reflows to page width is nice and almost instantenous.
I don't know why such big difference in performance between my phone and the video.
P.S. Some browsers don't even allow to pan and zoom at the same time which is a big letdown.

Dolphin here, works flawlessly.

bleary said:
I agree with this, coming from being a long term iOS user the browsers available on Android are SHOCKING!
They are miles away from being as slick as the iOS browser, yes they support flash but lets face it flash on Android is buggy and rubbish anyway.
For usability Android has a long way to go, I never use the browser anymore I just use my iPad for browsing.
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I can't agree with this. I also own iPhone4, iPod Touch 4 and iPad2, and compare with HOX and Ipad2 on www.engadget.com, I can't feel any difference, yes HOX will have a slight different when you zoom in or out, as the browser will reflow the text, but it takes just a blink.
I also went to an telcom shop to try GSII using stock browser, the result is just the same as HOX.
Don't forget the resolutions are different between the three devices.
OP statement is that any browser is unusuable, I can't agree with this.
I personally feel that Dolphin HD is smoother than stock browser.

stm2008 said:
I can't agree with this. I also own iPhone4, iPod Touch 4 and iPad2, and compare with HOX and Ipad2 on www.engadget.com, I can't feel any difference, yes HOX will have a slight different when you zoom in or out, as the browser will reflow the text, but it takes just a blink.
I also went to an telcom shop to try GSII using stock browser, the result is just the same as HOX.
Don't forget the resolutions are different between the three devices.
OP statement is that any browser is unusuable, I can't agree with this.
I personally feel that Dolphin HD is smoother than stock browser.
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Have you watched the YouTube video, specifically when he loads the NY Times webpage? Do you not see that pinching and zoom is extremely cumbersome and delayed. The browser constantly freezes, even scrolling stops working. How can you tell me its supposed to be like this when my original Galaxy S phone is smoother than the One X. Its only after I turn off flash and javascript that it becomes a little more responsive.
@Schriss I have used other HTC One's and that is how its supposed to be. Maybe I am just an isolated case I do not know, thinking of doing a major factory reset and starting all over again.

ClaudiuJer said:
Have you watched the YouTube video, specifically when he loads the NY Times webpage? Do you not see that pinching and zoom is extremely cumbersome and delayed. The browser constantly freezes, even scrolling stops working. How can you tell me its supposed to be like this when my original Galaxy S phone is smoother than the One X. Its only after I turn off flash and javascript that it becomes a little more responsive.
@Schriss I have used other HTC One's and that is how its supposed to be. Maybe I am just an isolated case I do not know, thinking of doing a major factory reset and starting all over again.
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I didn't watch the whole video, but my browser performs just like the first part of the video, very smooth.
After reading your post, I watch the whole video again, and notice the part about www.nytimes.com, and then I try again in my HOX, to be honest, no problem at all, the browser displays the page very smooth and flawless. I can't see any problem navigating this page.
P.S. I'm using Dolphin HD, Apex launcher instead of Sense. I don't like stock browser because when I scroll down, It will lift up the menu at top and bottom, it is not as friendly and direct as Dolphin.
I just tape how I browse to the nytimes page, you can have a look.
http://db.tt/60Am6mLl
As I hold my iPad2 with left hand to record it, I just look at the iPad screen to navigate, so my finger may not point/press accurately.
It is not 100% smooth, but shouldn't be unusuable?

I find restarting the phone seems to help if the browser becomes laggy. It's strange because sometimes it is lightning quick and other times laggy and non responsive, even on the same web pages. There is no rhyme or reason to it.

Chome vs AOSP browser

Am I the only person who's not particularly impressed with Chrome? In comparison to the stock browser (which thanks to Censura_Umbra is now installed on my N7) it's slow, clunky, takes up too much screen real estate and has a tendency to butcher page layout.
Take Engadget, for example. Chrome takes at least 10 seconds to completely load the page, and scrolling more than a screen and a half leaves you staring at the white background waiting for the page to finish rendering.
On top of that it only responds to one swipe in three and the bookmarks implementation is borked. It's nice to sync tabs between my PC but if that's the sole benefit Google shot themselves in the foot with this.
What's the point of Project Butter if the main thing that people use their phones or tablets for isn't optimised at all?

Chrome works great for me. But on my nexus phone on the other hand, is the opposite. It takes up so much space, takes forever to load, slow page rendering, slow animations and very frequent freezing and crashing

I don't get my N7 until Monday, but am curious about Chrome. I tried it on my PC, but went back to Firefox. On my phone and Galaxy Player I use Xscope because I can zoom any mobile page. Mobile pages are much better than they use to be and my preferred viewing method.
Does Chrome pinch zoom on all mobile pages? (say Facebook for example) If not then Xscope may be the 1st thing I change (other than adding GO Launcher)

It is indeed slow but the syncing of bookmarks is why i use it. Plus i can see which pages i have open on my desktop.
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I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Chrome is the fastest browser on my Note, Nexus 7 and Captivate.
OTOH I've only tried the crappy built-in browser, Opera, Dolphin HD, Dolphin Mini and a couple others. Am I missing something here?

tcat007 said:
I don't get my N7 until Monday, but am curious about Chrome. I tried it on my PC, but went back to Firefox. On my phone and Galaxy Player I use Xscope because I can zoom any mobile page. Mobile pages are much better than they use to be and my preferred viewing method.
Does Chrome pinch zoom on all mobile pages? (say Facebook for example) If not then Xscope may be the 1st thing I change (other than adding GO Launcher)
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You'll very likely have problems with Chrome if your have firefox installed on the same computer, if you really want to enjoy a bugeless Chrome experience then you'll have to get rid of firefox and I'm speaking from experience. I used to use firefox before but I've found Chrome to be faster, smoother and much more intuitive.
On my SGSIII I find Chrome to be a very Good browser, better than stock. The only two issue I find with Chrome are the lack of flash and the poor text reflow after pinch to zoom. If you want perfect text reflow after pinch to zoom, then jettison Chrome and go for "boat browser"

Chrome on the PC is great. On the phone / tablet... not so much.
Those looking for an example, visit the desktop version of Engadget in Chrome and try scrolling.

David Horn said:
Chrome on the PC is great. On the phone / tablet... not so much.
Those looking for an example, visit the desktop version of Engadget in Chrome and try scrolling.
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What's the problem here? I tried this on an old SGS i9000 and the only issues I have are a little bit of stuttering, although I'd put that down to my underpowered phone(?)
P.S I'm not just here to challenge you. I'm genuinely interested, thinking of getting a Nexus 7 as it's pretty much the only tablet I can afford

On the N7, if the page is still loading, as you try to scroll it'll show a page of white while it finishes rendering, which is really slow compared to the stock browser which has the page ready to go within seconds.
Chrome is smooth IF you wait for the page to finish rendering - which can be several seconds after it's finished loading.

David Horn said:
On the N7, if the page is still loading, as you try to scroll it'll show a page of white while it finishes rendering, which is really slow compared to the stock browser which has the page ready to go within seconds.
Chrome is smooth IF you wait for the page to finish rendering - which can be several seconds after it's finished loading.
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Ah I see, thanks for that. I wonder why one is so much faster at rendering, perhaps one uses the CPU & the other shoves it onto the GPU? I don't really know, just speculating. But it's something to look into should I get one

aosp has flash which is whats great. but other than that..chrome is better if it supported flash.

Thanks for the love lol
But I love chrome, I do wish it was a bit more minimalistic (like how aosp hides the bar unless you scroll.) If it had flash and an easy way to swipe away open tabs, It would be happy.
I only installed AOSP for a stable and minimal flash browser.

I have Chrome on my laptop, phone and N7- I've never had a problem. I used to be an aggressive Firefox user but it was so slow on my phone (which is admittedly old) I just gave up.
The tabs and bookmark sync are just too attractive to resist.

I personally like the AOSP browser better than the Chrome browser. Chrome is still young though so I think at some point it will surpass the AOSP browser.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Chrome: no full screen....no default user agent....no use.

Does the AOSP browser have any sync capabilities?

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Does the AOSP browser have any sync capabilities?
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Not on the nexus 7. They cause force closing so they are disabled. Probably due to Chrome's syncing. You could try removing all of chrome. That might fix it
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I don't mind chrome ..it does its job fine for me
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Chrome Lag?

Hey everyone.
I was just curious as to how Chrome can be so laggy, stuttery and unresponsive on our device, while the AOSP browser is so buttery smooth. Anyone have some insight?

Yes, I'm agree with you, and I can add that the phone burns when you use Chrome more than 5 minutes ....

Jagoflax said:
Yes, I'm agree with you, and I can add that the phone burns when you use Chrome more than 5 minutes ....
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I hope they do something about it
They probably don't care too much about our underpowered devices though, anymore..

I even hear that nexus 4 users are having a laggy experience with chrome.

lieuwex said:
I even hear that nexus 4 users are having a laggy experience with chrome.
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I don't know how Google can ship it as a stock app in such a state..

I have stopped using Chrome. It lags like hell for me too. Stock browser it is for me!

The day Chrome started making my launcher refresh on 4.1.2 on every exit...with one freaking tab was the day I stopped using it. My rom didn't even come with the stock browser, so I had to get an apk for it and install it. Works SO much better. I'm finding the new version of Chrome is starting to feel heavy on my Laptop. It's a few years old now but still, a laptop with this spec should not be lagging with a web browser. I think Chrome is going down the tubes.

In the Chrome settings under Developer Tools, uncheck "Tilt Scrolling". Just doing that improved the performance of Chrome on my toroplus a great deal.

[Q] A bit disappointed of the Tab S (stuttering/lag).is there any trick to fix them?

Hi guys I just bought my Tab S 10.5 (T800) a couple of days ago, however I'm finding some annoyances, that are giving me a headache when using it and are making me think, to return it
1) When i'm scrolling a website or flipboard in my usual way/speed the text/images appears to jump a tinny bit like if it's stuttering, instead of smooth transitions.
2) When the keyboard "launches" it doesn't matter if I turn off the animations or put them at .5 or 1x, when on the browser I'm trying to type something on a search bar there is a white tail before and after the keyboard launch, this tail makes the content on the bottom of the keyboard to appears like a flash. However this doesn't happen when trying to type an url, This is better noticed on a dark background for example go to this site mary-black.net (or whatever site which has an embedded search and uses a dark background) and launch the keyboard trying to type something on the search bar and then hide the keyboard.
The keyboard "white tail" doesn't happen on my sero 7 pro running an AOSP rom, however it has some stuttering while browsing, but I though it was because some kind of underpower, because my S4 running a touchwiz rom it doesn't stutter at all it's like butter on every single scrolling page/app/etc but it has also that "white tail" sometimes but it's so quick and is not my main browsing device, so I was trying to replace my main tablet an ipad 2 (7.1.2) which it browse like a champ exactly as my S4 and is way better than this Tab S
yeah I have tried a lot of browsers, maxthon, chrome, firefox,opera, dolphin, boat, and the less worst is the stock one
Oh and also it seems to not hold webpages on ram, because when I go to a link and then go back, instead of showing me the content right away, it shows a blank page and suddenly the content, however this a problem because if i was on a search or something it brings me to the top of the page again, and also typing something on a search is laggy, the letter don't go with the keystroke.
BTW: I don't use touchwiz launcher, I'm using nova/apex.
I have enabled also Force GPU Rendering and Turn off/on hardware overlays. nothing seems to fix it.
Also have found that the performance is not consistent at all, sometimes the apps load very fast, browse very fast and it's a pleasure, but sometimes it lags, yeah not like a minute or so, but the overall experience using it, is not something I was expecting, I was expecting at least the same behavior of my S4 and S2 and way better than my old ipad 2, and unfortunately none of those are met
Any ideas ?
Thanks.

You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.

1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?

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You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
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Cool, I have a feeling that you tough I was trolling , well here they are, this one shows the ugly white tale, and it also happens using google keyboard, and any keyboard.
http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I
As you can see that "white tale" is not present when trying to type an url.
Here is one with the stutter very visible.
http://youtu.be/f9DHYdlc4d0
Here is one showing the reloading on going back. which btw it also shows how with only one finger touching the screen it sometimes act as 2 (pinch to zoom) this little problem is very rare but it's not the first time has happen, and you can see the lag on the keyboard before launching also, there is that "white" then the keyboard.
fingers http://youtu.be/axCsmkgCXws
Here is one comparing the scrolling on the same content first the ipad 2 and then the tab S
http://youtu.be/0TYgm43eBxc
The ipad also has a bit stuttering, but not as much as the S, which IMO this should not be happening, the S has way more power/ram than the old ipad 2
I hope yours is not acting like this, could you please provide a video if yours is working at it supposed to be..
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1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
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Yeah the more you start using the tablet, the more stuttering it appears, and also when trying to open the recent apps, sometimes there is also a lot of lag until everything appear. The problem with this is they are not predictable.
I tried that keyboard and is doing me exactly the same (white tale), I think this is because instead of launching the keyboard and the placeholder at the same time, they are launched a different time, and I have just confirmed this enabling Layout boundaries under developer options. :/

My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.

pibach said:
My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
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I bet it's software issues, launching the placeholder for the keyboard before and after the keyboard. But to be honest I don't want to install Cyanogen or aosp to this tablet, because that will break sidesync, multi window, s planner and s finder. if I would need to flash those roms to be able to enjoy the hardware then I would go with a boring but trusty ipad or wait to see what is announced on september at the IFA.

- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.

Replacing the launcher has zero effect on anything except launching an app!
There might be some touchwiz related code behind the scenes, but to replace that you need a revised ROM.

ShadowFlare said:
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
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I'm using Nova or Apex, yeah those don't have lag on the major of transitions, but sometimes they stutter just a bit, yeah not a breaking deal. But the stuttering while browsing/reading and the keyboard issue is making me have headaches, and that will not be solved using another launcher.
I understand that point regarding iOS, but trust me, my S4 is running on a touchwiz rom and it doesn't act like this tab S, geez even my old S2 never acted like this.

Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.

pibach said:
Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
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I run excel spreadsheets while browsing for making quotes, compare values and stuff like that, need to compare spreadsheets with word documents, to give you an idea I use 3 monitors for my desktop.
So actually multiwindow is a very usefull "gadget" for me, and that's what got my attention, the 3gb of ram I though well this will handle my workload with out a problem, 10.5" screen good space for multi window, and well the exynos ? I would prefer a snapdragon version, but I don't need LTE on my tablet as always I can theter from my S4, and none local store have one with snapdragon in case I need to return it or something.
And yeah GMD Gestures is a must for a tablet.

I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.

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I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
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Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?

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Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
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OK I see your problem. The fade animation is working properly when you select the address bar but not when you select a text box on the actual website. I think this is just the website re rendering as the keyboard closes since you were interacting with it. You only really notice it because the background of your website is dark.
I believe this is a stock browser thing as it does not do this using Dolphin.

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No. Mine does a nice fade and drop down animation. What yours is doing should not be happening.
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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
EDIT: Well this happen on white pages also, "covering" what is on screen. I did that on a dark background because is more apparent. If I enable layout bounds on developer options it shows that the placeholder is triggering before the actual keyboard. Tomorrow i will make a video with the layouts enabled.
And mine is doing it with every browser i have tested.

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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
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I changed my original post. I think you missed it. Yes I am getting same thing in stock browser. This does not occur using Dolphin. Not a Tab S issue. A stock browser issue. The dark background of your website makes it more noticeable.
Update. Does it in Chrome browser too. If that bothers you try Dolphin browser.

I got the same white tail issue also in chrome browser.
Dolphin doesn't do that, gives a bit better re-rendering. But Dolphin mini also struggles. Weird.
Both are slightly more sluggish in scrolling, that's most important, so I sorted them out.
Also that nonsens gesture implementation (requires to press a button first) did not win me.

There is one thing the stock browser by far does the best of any browser I have tried. Play embedded video clips. Dolphin? You may as well not bother. Expect 10+ second load times. Using a little firewall hack I'm getting almost instant video loads in stock with no buffering lag.
The little white flash when closing the keyboard is a non issue for me, especially when using a website with a white background. Don't even notice it.

maybe try to debloat the ROM and then go into developer options to change the animations to .5 or disable them entire(I disable them in all android devices I own)

Well I don't know what happen, I did some factory reset like 3 in a row, then the first thing I did was, go straight to update chrome to 36.0.1985.131 and now it's working at it should. Yeah with some occasional stutter, mostly when launching an app. But not like was doing it before. The white tale is still there but not as heavy like it was before.