X scope browser? - Desire General

Ive been using this browser since I got the phone, and it is by FAR the best best browser ive used. Better than the standard browser, dolphin hd, skyfire easily. Its very fast and great to use. But has anyone noticed issues with this last update. It appears to be fine on reinstallation, but within a couple if hours it struggles to render pages and gets gradually worse slowing it down completely.? An uninstall and reinstall gets it back speedy again, but them it just repeats. I clear cache, etc exit and go back in, but it just sticks until I uninstall it. The writer has been great in getting back to me etc and had updated the browser many times improving it, but just want to know if anyone else had noticed this?

Dunbad said:
Ive been using this browser since I got the phone, and it is by FAR the best best browser ive used. Better than the standard browser, dolphin hd, skyfire easily. Its very fast and great to use. But has anyone noticed issues with this last update. It appears to be fine on reinstallation, but within a couple if hours it struggles to render pages and gets gradually worse slowing it down completely.? An uninstall and reinstall gets it back speedy again, but them it just repeats. I clear cache, etc exit and go back in, but it just sticks until I uninstall it. The writer has been great in getting back to me etc and had updated the browser many times improving it, but just want to know if anyone else had noticed this?
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What happens when you kill the process or reboot ?
I will try this browser.

Dunbad said:
Ive been using this browser since I got the phone, and it is by FAR the best best browser ive used. Better than the standard browser, dolphin hd, skyfire easily. Its very fast and great to use. But has anyone noticed issues with this last update. It appears to be fine on reinstallation, but within a couple if hours it struggles to render pages and gets gradually worse slowing it down completely.? An uninstall and reinstall gets it back speedy again, but them it just repeats. I clear cache, etc exit and go back in, but it just sticks until I uninstall it. The writer has been great in getting back to me etc and had updated the browser many times improving it, but just want to know if anyone else had noticed this?
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Sounds a bit crap to me. And it's still better than the Dophin one? In which way? I'm unlikely to ever pay for a browser, but i'd be interested to know why you think it's an improvement. Dolphin is really fast for me - hard to see how it can be much faster, to be honest. Bookmarks are fairly easy to use (except it's a pain to set the homepage - you have to cut and paste it into a sub-sub-sub menu, but you only have to do that once, so it's not a big deal).

This is better than dolphin hd because it (was) faster. Alot faster. Honestly it creamed along compared to dolphin. Also I like the pin zoom of x scope. You double tap the screen, then slide left or right to zoom in or out. Single handed zooming and holding the phone very handy. Download youtube videos (which I think still exists on xscope, but not on dolphin. Updates came in thick and fast and it was a great browser. It maybe still, but for some reason, its just slowed right down before stalling completely eventually. But I was trying to confirm if this was just me or my handset. My other browsers work fine load fine etc. connections good, just slowed right up for me.
I guess it can be perhaps abit complicated at first when you use it, but once your in, that thing was zippy as hell!

An update came through on this. And its fixed.
not sure what was up with it, but its back.

It's a good browser, but requires a payment = unappealing to most. It doesn't offer enough over the free browsers to make it appealing to the masses. It has its small niche though.
The single tap-slide zoom is an incredible usage idea. The browser does have other polishes on it too, no doubt.
I didn't have the issues you were having with it.
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th3 said:
It's a good browser, but requires a payment = unappealing to most. It doesn't offer enough over the free browsers to make it appealing to the masses. It has its small niche though.
The single tap-slide zoom is an incredible usage idea. The browser does have other polishes on it too, no doubt.
I didn't have the issues you were having with it.
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Yeah, that single pin zoom comes in handy. PinCH zoom is no good if you wanna browse the net and have a cigarette at the same time!

Give up smoking :-D

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Browser rant

Ok, the browser is great in terms of the speed, layout, support for animations/javascript etc. But I think the interface sucks a little. Where's the home page? I have to press 3 buttons, and yet `share` and this other crap I'm never going to use (share a web page? what does that even mean?) is right in your face. I find bookmarks clumsy to navigate, and there doesn't seem to be and way of constructing a folder full of bookmarks in under 30 minutes. If I double click to zoom then half the time I'll not quite double click and it'll load whatever link I clicked on first, so I have to double click on a blank part of the page, or use pinch to zoom, neither of which is ideal. How do I stop a page from loading if I've made a mistake or changed my mind? I'm not used to browsers with no stop button. Seems that you're supposed to just wait.
When I'm zooming in , it would be nice if the text was reformatted to fit the current width of the screen. Otherwise I have to keep scrolling left and right as I read. Am I supposed to have to do that? It would be nice to have a `reformat` button. Oh, but not hidden away on a sub menu somewhere like the home page is, but accessible from a long-click on the current page.
It's as if the browser was coded by two entirely different teams - a really competent one which has produced a fast, powerful browser which handles most web pages perfectly; and some other guys who've knocked up some rubbish front end quickly.
1) About stopping the page. You can either click in the top-right, where the refresh icon normally is, or you can press the back hardware button.
2) I'm guessing your Desire is from Orange? They took out the re-formatting function for some crappy reason. Really pees me off as well
Try xScope browser, probably that will solve your problem.
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Try xScope browser, probably that will solve your problem.
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I've tried a couple of other browsers, and they're usually rubbish (no multitouch etc). The stock browser just needs a few fixes and it'll be fine.
dpk said:
1) About stopping the page. You can either click in the top-right, where the refresh icon normally is, or you can press the back hardware button.
2) I'm guessing your Desire is from Orange? They took out the re-formatting function for some crappy reason. Really pees me off as well
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Yeah, it's Orange uk - home of the `yeah, lets take off Google Talk but leave the service running all the time` customization. The sooner there's a safe way of putting on a stock rom (with the possibility of putting back the crap Orange one if I need help from Orange) the better!
I'm in exactly the same boat as you mate, and it pisses me off too. I just wanna go generic, and i'll be happy.
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Yeah, it's Orange uk - home of the `yeah, lets take off Google Talk but leave the service running all the time` customization. The sooner there's a safe way of putting on a stock rom (with the possibility of putting back the crap Orange one if I need help from Orange) the better!
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It's currently perfectly safe to flash a stock rom. An Orange branded rom will appear soon as a lot of operator specific roms are currently surfacing.
I have quite a few major annoyances with the stock browser although I like it best from the offerings. One of which was the stop button, the home button and the zoom. It always zoom in far too much and usually I'm one handed so that becomes a pain.
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Well, it seems you have not tried xScope.
It is pretty good and it does pinch to zoom etc.
Also, there is a new "Dolphin Browser HD".
But yeah, stock browser user interface sucks! I really don't understand why it does not have proper "favorites" feature.
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I've tried a couple of other browsers, and they're usually rubbish (no multitouch etc). The stock browser just needs a few fixes and it'll be fine.
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I think the default browser is the best but it's too complicate to switch from a tab to another one.
Is there an android web browser that support the **file upload** ?
I really like the Android browser... but i've had crap phones in the past.
Omnia, 5800XM then the Tattoo which i loved and caused me to get the Desire.
gogol said:
Well, it seems you have not tried xScope.
It is pretty good and it does pinch to zoom etc.
Also, there is a new "Dolphin Browser HD".
But yeah, stock browser user interface sucks! I really don't understand why it does not have proper "favorites" feature.
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I have switched to Dolphin Browser HD, very nice.
It has tabs at the top so they are easy to switch between and also has swipe gestures to open a tab menu. Works almost exactly the same as the stock browser including pinch to zoom, I don't think it uses our flash lite though but flash lite isn't really worth it currently.
Orange took out the text wrapping? Crazy.

ANY Browser is Unusable on One X

Hello,
The stock browser on the One X does not work on any medium-heavy website. Pinch to zoom and double tap start stuttering and makes the experience unusable. I then rooted and flashed a couple of different roms but they all offer the exact same issues/experience to me. I have tried Chrome, Dolphin and Opera and they all give me the same issues.
This video on YouTube is EXACTLY how my One X acts with any browser I have installed... I unchecked Fastboot inside settings and that did nothing. Its not Adobe Flash because it stutters even when Flash is uninstalled. I also disabled re-flow of text but the issues persist.
Any ideas on what is the cause of this? This is a huge issue for me because I do not think I have warranty since I bought this phone unlocked from overseas.What can I do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
From my experience, stock browser is very fast and smooth, even browse to xda or other desktop websites are just good.
Dolphin hd performs much the same as stock one, but with 3 dot menu.
Chrome beta is laggy when compared with the two above.
Are you using 3g or WiFi? Which website you experience problem? Let me have a try!
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I am having this problem with guardian.co.uk, engadget.com, theverge.com any heavy website. I have tried it on wifi and 3G with 3 different roms but the browser performs the exact same.
My browser acts identical to what you see in the YouTube link.
For me browser is lightning. You may have a hardware dud
Its only after I disabled Javascript and Auto-flow that did the browser become a little usable... What would that have anything to do with? If I were to go complete back to stock would that change anything?
ClaudiuJer said:
I am having this problem with guardian.co.uk, engadget.com, theverge.com any heavy website. I have tried it on wifi and 3G with 3 different roms but the browser performs the exact same.
My browser acts identical to what you see in the YouTube link.
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I just try the websites you listed using 3G connection with Dolphin HD.
I can't said it is 100% smooth, especially when the site is still loading, but sure it is NOT unusable. Zoom and double tap are so smooth after loading complete.
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I just watch the youtube video, actually my browser performs about the same as in the video.
I wonder if your expectation is too high? This is just a phone with limited memory, viewing complex website is not recommended, and navigation is also difficult. You can view the mobile site and the corresponding App if available.
Exactly my point. My galaxy s2 had much better web browsing than this, heck even my Nexus S was better. Its a quad core phone it should handle these website easy.
Edit: Then why are there videos of the One X with butter smooth web browsing on YouTube and others say the same on here? Mine is as bad if not worse than what the video shows. It crashes constantly with new tabs.
Using quad-core not necessary means that it is smoother in viewing a web page. I didn't try other machines you mention, maybe look for others comment on this.
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ClaudiuJer said:
Exactly my point. My galaxy s2 had much better web browsing than this, heck even my Nexus S was better. Its a quad core phone it should handle these website easy.
Edit: Then why are there videos of the One X with butter smooth web browsing on YouTube and others say the same on here? Mine is as bad if not worse than what the video shows. It crashes constantly with new tabs.
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I can just said my one performs about the same as in your youtube video, and I'm satisfy with it.
I agree with the OP. The web browsing experience should be better. It can be done..
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have you tried any of the browser benchmarks like browsermark or sunspider just to see if the performance is up to par?
I'm very satisfied with the stock browser, it's the fasted I've tried... Second best is Dolphin IMHO. Browsing over WiFi is very very fast and scroll really smooth.
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Maybe take a look at System Panel or Tablet CPU Usage
and see if there is something slowing your phone in general.
ClaudiuJer said:
Hello,
The stock browser on the One X does not work on any medium-heavy website. Pinch to zoom and double tap start stuttering and makes the experience unusable. I then rooted and flashed a couple of different roms but they all offer the exact same issues/experience to me. I have tried Chrome, Dolphin and Opera and they all give me the same issues.
This video on YouTube is EXACTLY how my One X acts with any browser I have installed... I unchecked Fastboot inside settings and that did nothing. Its not Adobe Flash because it stutters even when Flash is uninstalled. I also disabled re-flow of text but the issues persist.
Any ideas on what is the cause of this? This is a huge issue for me because I do not think I have warranty since I bought this phone unlocked from overseas.What can I do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
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I agree with this, coming from being a long term iOS user the browsers available on Android are SHOCKING!
They are miles away from being as slick as the iOS browser, yes they support flash but lets face it flash on Android is buggy and rubbish anyway.
For usability Android has a long way to go, I never use the browser anymore I just use my iPad for browsing.
i tried the heavy sites like guardian.co.uk and Engadget and they open smoothly and without any shutter what so ever. while loading and even after that
I just checked stock browser on www.engadget.com and it's nothing like on that Youtube video. It's very quick and reflows in a blink of an eye. I was zooming and panning at the same time, as soon as I let go it's reflown almost instantly. I was doing it for few minutes and the way text always reflows to page width is nice and almost instantenous.
I don't know why such big difference in performance between my phone and the video.
P.S. Some browsers don't even allow to pan and zoom at the same time which is a big letdown.
Dolphin here, works flawlessly.
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I agree with this, coming from being a long term iOS user the browsers available on Android are SHOCKING!
They are miles away from being as slick as the iOS browser, yes they support flash but lets face it flash on Android is buggy and rubbish anyway.
For usability Android has a long way to go, I never use the browser anymore I just use my iPad for browsing.
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I can't agree with this. I also own iPhone4, iPod Touch 4 and iPad2, and compare with HOX and Ipad2 on www.engadget.com, I can't feel any difference, yes HOX will have a slight different when you zoom in or out, as the browser will reflow the text, but it takes just a blink.
I also went to an telcom shop to try GSII using stock browser, the result is just the same as HOX.
Don't forget the resolutions are different between the three devices.
OP statement is that any browser is unusuable, I can't agree with this.
I personally feel that Dolphin HD is smoother than stock browser.
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I can't agree with this. I also own iPhone4, iPod Touch 4 and iPad2, and compare with HOX and Ipad2 on www.engadget.com, I can't feel any difference, yes HOX will have a slight different when you zoom in or out, as the browser will reflow the text, but it takes just a blink.
I also went to an telcom shop to try GSII using stock browser, the result is just the same as HOX.
Don't forget the resolutions are different between the three devices.
OP statement is that any browser is unusuable, I can't agree with this.
I personally feel that Dolphin HD is smoother than stock browser.
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Have you watched the YouTube video, specifically when he loads the NY Times webpage? Do you not see that pinching and zoom is extremely cumbersome and delayed. The browser constantly freezes, even scrolling stops working. How can you tell me its supposed to be like this when my original Galaxy S phone is smoother than the One X. Its only after I turn off flash and javascript that it becomes a little more responsive.
@Schriss I have used other HTC One's and that is how its supposed to be. Maybe I am just an isolated case I do not know, thinking of doing a major factory reset and starting all over again.
ClaudiuJer said:
Have you watched the YouTube video, specifically when he loads the NY Times webpage? Do you not see that pinching and zoom is extremely cumbersome and delayed. The browser constantly freezes, even scrolling stops working. How can you tell me its supposed to be like this when my original Galaxy S phone is smoother than the One X. Its only after I turn off flash and javascript that it becomes a little more responsive.
@Schriss I have used other HTC One's and that is how its supposed to be. Maybe I am just an isolated case I do not know, thinking of doing a major factory reset and starting all over again.
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I didn't watch the whole video, but my browser performs just like the first part of the video, very smooth.
After reading your post, I watch the whole video again, and notice the part about www.nytimes.com, and then I try again in my HOX, to be honest, no problem at all, the browser displays the page very smooth and flawless. I can't see any problem navigating this page.
P.S. I'm using Dolphin HD, Apex launcher instead of Sense. I don't like stock browser because when I scroll down, It will lift up the menu at top and bottom, it is not as friendly and direct as Dolphin.
I just tape how I browse to the nytimes page, you can have a look.
http://db.tt/60Am6mLl
As I hold my iPad2 with left hand to record it, I just look at the iPad screen to navigate, so my finger may not point/press accurately.
It is not 100% smooth, but shouldn't be unusuable?
I find restarting the phone seems to help if the browser becomes laggy. It's strange because sometimes it is lightning quick and other times laggy and non responsive, even on the same web pages. There is no rhyme or reason to it.

That's it! I'm done with Chrome!

Such a horrible browser! Lags, freezes, slow, stupid checker board.... Horrible. Constantly refreshes every time I leave the app and come back real quick. The stock browser in my HTC incredible s is faster and more efficient... Even with 4 flash videos running at the same time!
I just used opera mobile just now and it is world's better than crappy chrome mobile.
The only thing it has going for it is the ability to sync desktop bookmarks and current tabs opened... But it's so laggy and slow, it's a pain.
opera Mobile is now my default browser
How can something so awesome on the desktop suck so badly on mobile?
#smh
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I have been enjoying the latest dolphin browser beta: http://dolphin-browser.com/beta/
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Wow... I keep going back to Chrome. Haven't found any that zoom and wrap any better. Have never seen a refresh. I tried Dolphin, Boat, FF Beta, and Xscope. Keeping Xscope for flash, Chrome for 90% of all other. I use Firefox on PC, so Chrome sync is not used, I don't like so many bookmarks anyway. While I have my favorites on my home page, I find this bookmark app helpful. I find the font and text size in Chrome much better than any other browser. If it would use flash, it's the only one I'd use.
Chrome and Dolphin are the best I've used so far, and neither make me super happy. Chrome lags big time on certain sites (Tumblr for example) and closes tabs as soon as you look away. Dolphin is faster, most of the time, but has rendering issues on some sites (ESPN for example, gives the mobile site vs the tablet site, no matter what the user agent is). As an iOS user historically, I was expecting the browser experience to be better on Android since it's an "open" system, but unfortunately that has not been true. Hopefully someone steps up to the plate.
I had a TF101, and I felt the stock browser on that was better than Chrome now. Especially small usability things like having a bookmarks bar. It shouldn't take 5-10 seconds to load my bookmarks (multiple taps + loading wait), they should be available quickly and efficiently.
I actually quite like chrome on a tablet!
Its always been really responsive and fast.
Tried, dolphin beta, Firefox & opera but none of them compare to chrome.
The lack of flash support isnt a huge problem for me.
Seriously? something must be wrong with your OS or hardware because for me is working great! I'm a ex- Transformer prime user with the stock browser and Chrome is by far the best browser experience I ever had in an Android tablet, although I have not tried that Dolphin Beta mentioned above
yeah, I feel you
I know that chrome is FAR from perfect as of now, and I even have dolphin installed, but something about it just keeps making me come back to it...
I click on the Chrome icon and it opens to my bookmarks home page in about 1 second. Click XDA BM and opens in 1-2 seconds. I find Chrome VERY fast, just lacks flash which is a BIG "just".
Dorkington said:
I had a TF101, and I felt the stock browser on that was better than Chrome now. Especially small usability things like having a bookmarks bar. It shouldn't take 5-10 seconds to load my bookmarks (multiple taps + loading wait), they should be available quickly and efficiently.
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Chrome is 2nd rate til they enable full screen option, and default desktop setting.
Boat browser swims circles around chrome right now.
If you put Chrome on a transformer prime, it's known to cause all the other browsers you have installed to then lock up and crash on a very regular basis.
You have to uninstall Chrome, and then flash, and reinstall flash to get back to normal. I was curious when they decided to use chrome as the default if they'd fixed this. I think the answer is sorta.
While the lockups arent near as frequent or bad as they are on the prime. It still happens. The best combo on the prime was browser, and opera. Which seems to work well on the nexus as well.
My only gripe with Chrome is that the new tab page opens up Mobile Bookmarks as the default bookmark folder, even though I have absolutely no bookmarks stored in that folder. Why can't I just be taken to the root bookmark folder?
Other than that, Chrome is smooth enough to be usable for me. Usually if it starts chugging, it's because I have another app open in the background eating up all of my system resources. Having to refresh the page after leaving the app for an extended period of time makes sense given the limited resources on this device, and it happens with other browsers, too. Android's memory management is only as good as the memory management of your third party apps, which is to say most developers are still terrible at it.
I too have problems with Chrome. Currently using the stock browser.
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I too have problems with Chrome. Currently using the stock browser.
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thevuman said:
Such a horrible browser! Lags, freezes, slow, stupid checker board.... Horrible. Constantly refreshes every time I leave the app and come back real quick. The stock browser in my HTC incredible s is faster and more efficient... Even with 4 flash videos running at the same time!
I just used opera mobile just now and it is world's better than crappy chrome mobile.
The only thing it has going for it is the ability to sync desktop bookmarks and current tabs opened... But it's so laggy and slow, it's a pain.
opera Mobile is now my default browser
How can something so awesome on the desktop suck so badly on mobile?
#smh
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Chrome on the Nexus 7 is great.. I've never had any of the issue you described. No lags, refreshed, anything. It's fast and perfect.
I've heard people complain about it but all I can think is that there's something wrong on their end.
You guys don't get the checkerboard effect either? Surely you must. I've seen it in video reviews too.
I fap to the porn forums on Tapatalk 2
Checkerboard? Never saw that, but then I've never watched a video in chrome. I either use the You Tube app or Xscope.
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Checkerboard? Never saw that, but then I've never watched a video in chrome. I either use the You Tube app or Xscope.
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Checkerboard, meaning the whole page hasn't rendered and as you scroll, white squares will fill in spots on the page that haven't rendered yet.
Yeah I find the same with Chrome, good example is to load the Engadget website and scroll through it as its loading.
Using Dolphin, the best browser in my opinion. Might give the new beta a go.
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I love Chrome, it is my first option on all my devices. Never really liked Dolphin
Boat Browser. Android Chrome is still in its puberty. When it has matured, it will be something to reckon with.

Browser's

Was sat yesterday in a really poor signal area and was trying to find some info on if some chocolate contained gluten as my missus has an allergy anyway the htc browser was taking an age so I thought I would try chrome it was much faster literally maybe 10times faster just thought I would mention incase people haven't tried it and get constantly frustrated with the standard browser I haven't tried any others
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There are several insanly quick browsers.. on my old SGS I tended to use FireFox since it has low requirements, though it is actually really fast (and has full screen mode and 3 finger swipe shortcuts, and other stuff I dont use hehe) theres dolphin, an old competitor to any browser on android, has a brand new version (also very quick), theres chrome (only for android 4 and up) and much more.. the only feature I think that the default browser has better then chrome is that it supports flash (though firefox does to ^^)
Yes, the Chrome browser is very fast, but he is eating battery! Use stock browser, but it sometimes slows
The stock is extremely fast. Dolphin has lots of features, but I use Firefox as I could sync it with my PC.
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The stock is extremely fast.
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Yes, stock is fast, but sometimes in a really poor signal area - stock browser HTC is slows down and stops. In such cases, turn on Chrome, it does the job
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Yes, stock is fast, but sometimes in a really poor signal area - stock browser HTC is slows down and stops. In such cases, turn on Chrome, it does the job
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Thats exactly what i found yesterday i like the stock browser but chrome was considerably better in a poor signal area...
None of the other browsers aside from opera have working text reflow though. So i've stuck with stock (with quick controls enabled)
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None of the other browsers aside from opera have working text reflow though. So i've stuck with stock (with quick controls enabled)
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Maxathon Browser is another one to add to the list also a insanely fast browser that is nice and easy to use and not terribly demanding on resources.
I actually use stock browser and got rid of google chrome. The latter seems to have problems with loading pages of my university electronic environment that needs authentication and secure connections (Blackboard Environment).
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I actually use stock browser and got rid of google chrome. The latter seems to have problems with loading pages of my university electronic environment that needs authentication and secure connections (Blackboard Environment).
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Weird. I get on Blackboard (using Chrome) all the time without an issue.
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Weird. I get on Blackboard (using Chrome) all the time without an issue.
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Well blackboard itself does work, but the links to non-blackboard stuff, i.e. grades system and universities google bussiness accounts don't work.
does anyone really consider chrome or firefox better browsers than AOSP stock browser?
Try UC Browser...its quiet a good one...
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Help with Internet browsing Tab S 10.5

I am looking for help with my SM-T800 and Web browsing in particular.
The problem is that it is slow and stutters when moving up and down a page. I find it outstanding that a tablet as new as this can be this bad. I have tried the stock, chrome, dolphin and UC browsers and out of all of them UC is the better one but still in my view really bad.
I'm on 4.4.2 with no OTA when I check for an update(I'm in the UK) so I guess the only option is to update through Odin but I want to see if this can be sorted out first.
I have disabled most of the stuff that I don't use and can without rooting it. I have tried a compleat wipe but still no better. I also have a Note 4 so I know about TW slowing things down but this is ridiculous.
Any help would be great and by the way I'm more used to using an ipad air 2
I have the same T800 and am in the UK, running stock 4.4.2 same as you, I use the built in chrome and it seems smooth as silk, what pages are you browing are they full of flash or photo.
Chrome has an data saver, it compresses the data to make it smaller so you use less, it keep it on, but you can turn it off, in the settings.
edit: just tried browing ebay for all the photo`s no problems at all scrolling up and down a massive page.
John.
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I have the same T800 and am in the UK, running stock 4.4.2 same as you, I use the built in chrome and it seems smooth as silk, what pages are you browing are they full of flash or photo.
Chrome has an data saver, it compresses the data to make it smaller so you use less, it keep it on, but you can turn it off, in the settings.
edit: just tried browing ebay for all the photo`s no problems at all scrolling up and down a massive page.
John.
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Well this is one of the sites that it bad along with android central. Chrome was probably the worst of the browsers. I have even tried AdBlock Plus.
Ok, I tried Android Central, it is stuttery while the page is loading, but once that is done it scrolls fine, do you have a slow connection and you are scrolling while the page is loading, i dont have any addblock on at all.
EDIT: I tried it in desktop mode and Android Central is very choppy and the pages take forever to load, I am going to give Dolphin browser a go.
John.
GTCC said:
Well this is one of the sites that it bad along with android central. Chrome was probably the worst of the browsers. I have even tried AdBlock Plus.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Ok, I tried Android Central, it is stuttery while the page is loading, but once that is done it scrolls fine, do you have a slow connection and you are scrolling while the page is loading, i dont have any addblock on at all.
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I have around 150mbps so Internet speed is not a problem. Even if I wait for the page to load it stutters and jumps, very inconsistent scrolling. Even my old Surface 2 which is Windows RT blows it into the weeds for both speed and smoothness.
Ok, I never liked browsing the net on a tablet, i prefer using a notebook with a mouse, so maybe i am putting up with a lot of problems, pages do take longer to load on a tablet.
Have a look at a few Sam Tab S review video`s on youtube and see if they notice a problem. while using the browser.
John.
GTCC said:
I have around 150mbps so Internet speed is not a problem. Even if I wait for the page to load it stutters and jumps, very inconsistent scrolling. Even my old Surface 2 which is Windows RT blows it into the weeds for both speed and smoothness.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Ok, I never liked browsing the net on a tablet, i prefer using a notebook with a mouse, so maybe i am putting up with a lot of problems, pages do take longer to load on a tablet.
Have a look at a few Sam Tab S review video`s on youtube and see if they notice a problem. while using the browser.
John.
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I will have another look but for me the tab s is unusable.
Android Central is more of a problem than the S 10.5 browsers. That site loads slow with IE on my PC. TOO MANY ADS and it really is hosed up on a tablet as the text isn't formatted very well for a tablet. I can't even login because the menu uption for the store overlays the menu item for login!
Someone there needs to clean it up. You would figure they would want to attract the smart phone and tablet users. It's not going to happen with a mess like they have there.
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Android Central is more of a problem than the S 10.5 browsers. That site loads slow with IE on my PC. TOO MANY ADS and it really is hosed up on a tablet as the text isn't formatted very well for a tablet. I can't even login because the menu uption for the store overlays the menu item for login!
Someone there needs to clean it up. You would figure they would want to attract the smart phone and tablet users. It's not going to happen with a mess like they have there.
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Yeah I noticed even on my ipad air 2 that android central loads the page really slow as I'm scrolling up and down the page. To log into there I had to tap on the reply to a thread so that it would redirect me to the login.
I found this 2015 android browser review, now i just need to know what it means.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best...ition-design-features-and-performance_id67848
John.
You should try to update to Lollipop via odin since this bug has been mostly fixed. Even XDA was a nightmare for me on KK but now it is smoother
Dag, if you want to put a browser to the test load that review page tinderbox put up a link to! I waited almost 4 minutes for it to load in IE 11!
It is the ads and stupid massive signatures that cause the scrolling issue. Ad blockers help here.
This site is terrible for it. I've used all the browsers and stock deals with it the best.
Turning off java script helps also, but then you can't log in. :sly:
Use the free xda app and things are much better. Use the premium and there's no ads and no lag at all.
If you are are experiencing issues with Google's Chrome browser try this.
Chrome Samsung support library
I will echo quite a few of the reviews and info I found online about it. I don't know what it is or what it does but it makes chrome perform much much smoother. Pages load faster, videos play quicker, more types of videos play, and overall the smoothness of browsing with chrome improves. Try it out, since it is an official google app it should not harm your tablet and it helped me.
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If you are are experiencing issues with Google's Chrome browser try this.
Chrome Samsung support library
I will echo quite a few of the reviews and info I found online about it. I don't know what it is or what it does but it makes chrome perform much much smoother. Pages load faster, videos play quicker, more types of videos play, and overall the smoothness of browsing with chrome improves. Try it out, since it is an official google app it should not harm your tablet and it helped me.
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It stopped my AdBlock after I downloaded it.
Good to know, I only use the plugin version of ad block in firefox and I only blacklist sites that do auto redirecting ads so I didn't know it could pr would do that.
Well as an update to this thread I went into a Samsung centre today and asked but I also tried one they had there and wow it was the same. They looked at mine and said that it was normal.
How this thing can be normal is beyond me, it only came out last year and it is like using something from 4 or 5 years ago. I couldn't use this thing as a tablet, okay I can get past how uncomfortable it is to hold because of the small bezels but the lag is sh!t. Surly to god I shouldn't have to move my finger 1-1.5 inches before the page starts to move.
Also things like the YouTube app, it keeps stopping the video with a "network error" message.
My other tablets are an ipad air 2, Surface 3 and a Surface 3 pro and my wife has a Surface 2 and they areally all smoother than this.
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My other tablets are an ipad air 2, Surface 3 and a Surface 3 pro and my wife has a Surface 2 and they areally all smoother than this.
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Might just be my next purchase. I'm kinda done with Android as a whole. Not one device I have that runs Android can come close to a Windows machine for usability. But I think I'm expecting too much so I'm not upset about it. I'll just use it for a bit longer and see what develops....
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Also things like the YouTube app, it keeps stopping the video with a "network error" message
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Could be problems on your network? Youtube works pretty well for me.
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Might just be my next purchase. I'm kinda done with Android as a whole. Not one device I have that runs Android can come close to a Windows machine for usability. But I think I'm expecting too much so I'm not upset about it. I'll just use it for a bit longer and see what develops....
Could be problems on your network? Youtube works pretty well for me.
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I'm the same I think. I just wanted an android tablet because I have a Note 4 and I will probably be getting the Note 5 when it comes out. My iPhone 6 is okay for private use but limited for work.
I'm not sure if I should get another android tablet or not but one thing for sure is that I won't be keeping this stuttering lagging thing.
It does look like a network problem with YouTube but I don't have any issues with it on any of my other devices. I never get lower than 130mbps and I have kept an eye on my WiFi signal and it never drops but not sure if it would show if it was a quick drop.
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I'm the same I think. I just wanted an android tablet because I have a Note 4 and I will probably be getting the Note 5 when it comes out. My iPhone 6 is okay for private use but limited for work.
I'm not sure if I should get another android tablet or not but one thing for sure is that I won't be keeping this stuttering lagging thing.
It does look like a network problem with YouTube but I don't have any issues with it on any of my other devices. I never get lower than 130mbps and I have kept an eye on my WiFi signal and it never drops but not sure if it would show if it was a quick drop.
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Wifi - might be RFI from some other wireless device in the area.... I have a set of wireless rear surround speakers. They gave my wifi a fit! They didn't keep me off the network but they put so much RF in the way that I could only see about 8mbps from speedtest.net. Once I figured out they were the problem, by simply disconnecting EVERYTHING that is wireless and turning them back on one at a time, I just changed the wifi channel on the router and the speaker transmitter so they were as far apart as I could get them in the spectrum. Now, I have 30mbps from speedtest!

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