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Android on Universal

Android is a new open source mobile operating system that Google developed and an SDK has just been made available.
It would be great to see this ported to the Universal if its possible.

I don't see why it would not run since the Universal can already run Linux (to some extent) and Android is just based on that. Whether and to what extent the hardware can be supported is another question that only our programmers can answer. As we can surely count HTC out on supporting their legacy devices it might not be worth anybodies time in the end.

SDK for Android would not help at all. It is just a set of headers and import libraries. To port something to a device you need complete source codes of its kernel, software, etc. Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.

mamaich said:
Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.
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Nobody uses NOR these days, it's too expensive and provides no real
benefit over NAND. The XIP days are over.
I hate java with passion, but i don't see any reason why Android software
will not be running on the universal.

Any news? I mean: can Universal run an Android ROM?
I saw something on tytnII, is there an hope?

can anyone confirm if android requires a customised hardware or minimum requirements....

By The Looks Of It I Shouldnt See Why Not...
I Saw That Video Of It On The Tytn And It Looks Like Its Just A Linux Based Kernel Booting Though Haret.
Theirs Already Some Pretty Good Progress With Linux On The UNI And I Dont See Why It Shouldnt Be Possible To Patch This Up. (Wish I Could But Im Not A Linux Coder )

maybe something like this
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could be done for univ.

Getting A Replacement
I Get My Replacement XDA Exec On Monday Hopefully So Ill See If I Can Do Anything. No Promises Though
Regards,
OllieD

It looks promising but I am also awaiting the Ubuntu Mobile edition for PCC: it looks awesome!

if it has to run java bytecode
hi a .CAB solution should be possible. tis my prefered choice at present. KVM with class jar anyone??

any news ?

Kaiser can run Android, any ROM for Uni?
In this thread we have Android ported in to a Kaiser, hope someone is working on an Android ROM for UNI!!
It looks very nice the interface
Does anyone knows more info about this?
Thanks
Gracias

Any news on Android for Uni?
I've been trying to get it to work on my ELFin too, but i gave up when i only managed to get the Linwizard running without startx... (i dont know how to telnet and startx -.-)

Any news on this?
I'm thinking of getting a universal but i'm gathering info on it atm!

Has anyone been able to get some real progress on this matter?

I installed this onto my main memory, but when I run it I get a blank screen and the phone vibrates continuously, what am I doing wrong? I think this version is supposed to work on the Universal.

hye !
i also tried to install android on my universal, but it didn't work at all, i only had a black sreen and it vibrate without stopping. if someone has an idea, or a new thread were we can find out a running android os for uni... i take it !

Very keen on this
Is there a project? .. I'm a developer and would be willing to assist, but i haven't got enough experience with these devices to start the project off myself...

Count me in as a beta tester
It would be great to have Android on Uni!!
So this news means that very soon developers can start working on android to be ported on other devices!!!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/

android

hello,
their seems to be a few posts on this being ported to BA recently. ow ive got linux running on my BA fairly well (havent got round to setting up gprs etc yet though but thats a different matter) and id be willing to try and get a port of android working, if someone can extract the 3 img files in the android sdk as ive not managed to do that yet ? anyone want to try and help or am i talking of a lost cause

ok, ill post this incase anyone is watching. i made some progress getting andriod running but i keep getting seg fault tryingto run it, any1 who could provide insight let me know pelase

Unfortunately I can't help you but I'll be keeping a VERY close eye on this thread!
Good luck, I'm sure there are a whole load of people who'd buy you a beer if you succeed.
Steve

glad to see someones watching . ill have another play around over weekend see what i can come up with

it will be interesting to see how android works on BA keep up with the good work

Nice.
I like my BA and I don't wont to change it until an open linux mobile is avaible (an open Iphone could be great).
Maybe a sub-forum called "Blue angel linux" could help.
I'm bored or a problem with the actual BA linux is the acces to the wifi chipset?

And this seems noise. And I don't want to pay for having linux on my BA!
http://www.a-la-mobile.com/news/press/pr080114.html

aperles said:
I'm bored or a problem with the actual BA linux is the acces to the wifi chipset?
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Not the access, but a nice gui/setup.

remember linux is designed primarily for people who know what their doing. yes theirs guis now which help but you stil need command line to use linux properly. except on the iPhone and android from what ive seen

actually there was an earlier thread regarding android. and with 921+ adding 200+ views here, We bet there are people that are REALLY interested porting this.
hope we get it up and running.
anything for our BA.
even alternatives to WM6 are welcome.

well im not having a lot of look, it seems to be segfaulting pretty much constantly. think its down to the busybox shell though so im going to find a newer one and try that later, does anyone know what version of the arm feature set the BA uses. (because from reading http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/21/android-neo1973) android only seems to work on devices using ARMv5 featureset. whatever that means)
UPDATE: thats not a problem, the pxa263 in the BA is ARMv5TE so thats ok - gotta love wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale)
Further update: ok been reading up a bit more and im doing the risky thing of building my own kernel for android see if i can get round these damn segfaults

ok just thought id post up so people done think ive given up here . still havign issues compiling the linux kernel with the android addidtions. mainly because i ahvent got a proper linux machine at home (only virtual pc on this computer)...dont suppose anyone uses linux and has a decent knownledge of compiling kernels on here ??

DJ_Steve said:
ok just thought id post up so people done think ive given up here . still havign issues compiling the linux kernel with the android addidtions. mainly because i ahvent got a proper linux machine at home (only virtual pc on this computer)...dont suppose anyone uses linux and has a decent knownledge of compiling kernels on here ??
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I've compiled kernels under Linux before, but not for an embedded system like the angel's.
Where did you get the tarballs for everything? And what distro of Linux did you install?
Really, real machine vs virtual machine, in this case, shouldn't matter. It might, but shouldn't.

not so much the fact im using a virtual machine, its the fact im only on a 2mb connection so downloading linux cd images takes ages and since debian is the only distro ive seen which has arm crosscompile tools that work that means 2 dvds or 9+cd images. most of the tarballs ive had to rip direct from the android sdk emulator. i could host them somewhere if someone wants to try and help me out getting a kernel running - after that i think most of android should fall into place on its own, but getting openbinder support in the kernels proving difficult
EDIT/UPDATE: ok just tried installing the arm crosscompiliers on my development dedicated server and it seems to be compiling a kernel as i type (hopefully) so looks to be some progress happening here

Been following your thread with interest.
I should be getting a new PDA from work, so then I could take the risk of bricking my trusty and battered Blue Angel.
Any chance you could post some links to the various bits you are using? Not a step by step (unless you have the time) but the starting points so others can attempt to duplicate your efforts in parallel?
Good luck - I'm rooting for you!

ok, im just tarballing up the files on my webserver now, didnt have any success with kernel, looks like im going to have to take the blueangel drivers etc from the kernel posted on handhelds.org and manually merge the config files into the android kernel image to get it to compile. unless anyone can suggest a way to do that easily (windows or linux routine i dont mind)
the main sites ive used to help out ive listed below
http://benno.id.au/blog/ << somewhere on their theirs a link to the android root filesystem image. (http://benno.id.au/android/system.tar.gz and http://benno.id.au/android/data.tar.gz)
http://nemustech.blogspot.com/2007/12/android-porting-to-real-target-hw.html
http://euedge.com/blog/2007/12/06/google-android-runs-on-sharp-zaurus-sl-c760/
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelKernel
the three above above links help even though their not scriptly related to android on blueangel
the rest of the files are in http://radiodmp.net/android-files/ - the 365mb file contains the 2 arm cross compilers and also both the newest blueangel linux kernel and the android kernel - as said above these need merging (android kernel needs to be the one that is the final kernel as its newer i believe
edit: ive just put the system and data tars linked above into the folder on my server also to save people time.
hope that helps
if anyone wants any help drop me a message and ill try and help out. will of course keep trying to sort it myself too

Any update on this?
Actively watching this thread and just wanted to know. I'd love to be able to play with Android.

good to see ppl interested. ive not had time to try and merge the kernels yet, hopefulyl might get chance this week

DJ_Steve said:
good to see ppl interested.
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Still watching, still interested!
Keep it up.
Steve

ok managed to hack together the two kernels, compiling it as i type - hopefully it'll workon my BA

[Q] Which (Android) forum does my post belong in?

I have made an auto-installer for Linux that will download, install, and setup the Android SDK, NDK, Eclipse, ADB, and create a 99-android.rules file without the user having to do anything. I was curious which section I should post this in?

Tahl said:
I have made an auto-installer for Linux that will download, install, and setup the Android SDK, NDK, Eclipse, ADB, and create a 99-android.rules file without the user having to do anything. I was curious which section I should post this in?
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Nice work!
I'd say in the Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking forum itself, but I may be wrong. That's the general, non-device specific development forum, and forum for devices without their own forum.
Perhaps a Mod could clarify this for us? Oh Scotsman, where art thou?

Interesting, I didn't even think about that as a possibility, I was looking at the Android Software and Hacking General or Android Software Development. Mostly because that's where people asking about ADB were, but now I'm not sure.

To be honest I'd put it in all three, as it's a worthy addition to any Linux users' toolkit.
May want to double-check with someone who actually knows what they're talking about first, and possibly just post it in one place and get some user feedback first, so you know it works on all machines

Well, I've had quite a few testers and positive feedback on Linux Mint 11 and Ubuntu 11.04 for both the 32/64-bit versions. I just wanted to share it with xda-developers so that more people would be able to use it. It's already on RootzWiki and I've had people test it from my blog with some help from P3Droid's retweet power. The deb version I'm pretty confident in will work without many people having troubles. The .sh version that I also have hasn't been tested with any operating systems outside of that, but I'd like some feedback with people using apt-get and other operating systems.

I have asked Scotsman to come and provide a little clarification for us. I honestly think you've made a very vaulable contribution here, so thankyou from all of us far too stupid to do something like this!

I posted it in Android Software and Hacking General.
I thought that would be a good spot for it based on how many adb related guides and posts there were in that section. If Scotsman would like to move it or delete it though, I can gladly repost it in a more appropriate (or multiple) forums so that it can get more attention. I really appreciate the help you've given me too.

Hmmm...I'd say maybe Android Software and Hacking General or maybe Android Software Development? Since it's only Android specific...

I'll stick to the Hacking General then, I think that I saw the most related material there while I was posting. Thanks for the help you two, I appreciate it.

You're welcome mate, I wish everyone's first few posts could be as productive
Enjoy your time at XDA! Let me know if I can help with anything else

[Q] Requirements for AOKP on serranoltexx

Hey guys!
I just got my serranoltexx and am fairly happy. However, I really would like to try and get AOKP running. Could any devs point me in the direction of where to start, you know, just bootstrap me with some reading? I have a background in Linux and UNIX, have developed some networking stack API projects on windows and have written a ****load of bash, perl etc. scripts in the past. I've also worked on the Matroska container format. Compiling etc. pose no challanges for me. However, I have never fumbled around with Android and I have no idea what drivers and other components might be needed. And how to start finding out what's missing...
I do know how to bootstrap my source repository and sync it... and in theory also how to compile AOKP - for supported devices, that is. What I don't know is: how do I start resolving unmet dependencies, and, you know, generally port a rom to a new device?
Please don't post if you haven't even compiled your own ROM yet. More likely than not, you'd be wasting your time.
I've posted on xda-dev as well, not sure which is the more suitable forum, possibly this one... Link to the other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2501539
And please don't post me to this guide right here as it is only of limited help. As I said, I know how to do it in general... You know, this guide:
http://aokp.co/learn/so-you-want-to-build-aokp-jb-ubuntu-1204

I tried to build it, but many things are missing once i flashed the *.zip.
Maybe i messed up with sources and patches.
Tell us if you have success! :good:

Kali Asus TF300T Native

Hey guys! I am pretty new to a lot of this rooting and custom ROM installs. I recently picked up an Asus TF300T from a friend at work which i have root(the easy part). The reason why i was looking into this or even a laptop was because i wanted to start tinkering with pen testing with Kali Linux. After a lot of research, trying to retain what information i could, i have found there is an image for Kali for armel. This brings 2 questions to mind that i cannot find the answers to. 1 - Even though the CPU on my Asus tablet is ARMv7 will armel images work? From what i have found, i would want to use an armhf image to flash to the device due to the version of the CPU. And 2 - Is there a distro(i have been unsuccessful finding one) that has the drivers required to make a smoothing working environment? During the course of my research into this issue, i have found there are some distributions of Ubuntu that currently work with my tablet. More specifically Ubuntu Touch(i think?). This got me thinking, since both Kali and Ubuntu are both Debian based distros(i could be wrong, please correct me if i am) could i take the section of the file system from Ubuntu Touch that has the drivers for my tablet that allow it to work correctly and replace it with the section of the file system for the ARM image of Kali? I should mention that i have been able to get Kali to install and run with Linux Deploy. However, i feel it is slower than i was anticipating. And all the tools are there, they just do not open for some reason. Which is a whole different issue that i haven't figured out yet. I was hoping that perhaps one of you may have an idea if the two questions i have posed will work, or could maybe shed some light on how to go about accomplishing what i am trying to do. Or if any of you know of a version of Kali that will work on my tablet or maybe even one someone has already built for this particular model. Any guidance, tips, or knowledge on this subject will be very much appreciated. I understand going out and buying a laptop or a tablet with an image supported on Kalis website would be the ideal and most efficient solution, but i have a bad habit taking the hard way to gain some more information and knowledge haha. Thank you all for taking the time to read this and thanks in advanced for any responses .
Kyle