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Android is a new open source mobile operating system that Google developed and an SDK has just been made available.
It would be great to see this ported to the Universal if its possible.
I don't see why it would not run since the Universal can already run Linux (to some extent) and Android is just based on that. Whether and to what extent the hardware can be supported is another question that only our programmers can answer. As we can surely count HTC out on supporting their legacy devices it might not be worth anybodies time in the end.
SDK for Android would not help at all. It is just a set of headers and import libraries. To port something to a device you need complete source codes of its kernel, software, etc. Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.
mamaich said:
Even more - we don't know hardware requirements for Android. It may require the NOR flash to run from it - and we don't have it on our device at all.
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Nobody uses NOR these days, it's too expensive and provides no real
benefit over NAND. The XIP days are over.
I hate java with passion, but i don't see any reason why Android software
will not be running on the universal.
Any news? I mean: can Universal run an Android ROM?
I saw something on tytnII, is there an hope?
can anyone confirm if android requires a customised hardware or minimum requirements....
By The Looks Of It I Shouldnt See Why Not...
I Saw That Video Of It On The Tytn And It Looks Like Its Just A Linux Based Kernel Booting Though Haret.
Theirs Already Some Pretty Good Progress With Linux On The UNI And I Dont See Why It Shouldnt Be Possible To Patch This Up. (Wish I Could But Im Not A Linux Coder )
maybe something like this
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could be done for univ.
Getting A Replacement
I Get My Replacement XDA Exec On Monday Hopefully So Ill See If I Can Do Anything. No Promises Though
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It looks promising but I am also awaiting the Ubuntu Mobile edition for PCC: it looks awesome!
if it has to run java bytecode
hi a .CAB solution should be possible. tis my prefered choice at present. KVM with class jar anyone??
any news ?
Kaiser can run Android, any ROM for Uni?
In this thread we have Android ported in to a Kaiser, hope someone is working on an Android ROM for UNI!!
It looks very nice the interface
Does anyone knows more info about this?
Thanks
Gracias
Any news on Android for Uni?
I've been trying to get it to work on my ELFin too, but i gave up when i only managed to get the Linwizard running without startx... (i dont know how to telnet and startx -.-)
Any news on this?
I'm thinking of getting a universal but i'm gathering info on it atm!
Has anyone been able to get some real progress on this matter?
I installed this onto my main memory, but when I run it I get a blank screen and the phone vibrates continuously, what am I doing wrong? I think this version is supposed to work on the Universal.
hye !
i also tried to install android on my universal, but it didn't work at all, i only had a black sreen and it vibrate without stopping. if someone has an idea, or a new thread were we can find out a running android os for uni... i take it !
Very keen on this
Is there a project? .. I'm a developer and would be willing to assist, but i haven't got enough experience with these devices to start the project off myself...
Count me in as a beta tester
It would be great to have Android on Uni!!
So this news means that very soon developers can start working on android to be ported on other devices!!!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/
hello,
their seems to be a few posts on this being ported to BA recently. ow ive got linux running on my BA fairly well (havent got round to setting up gprs etc yet though but thats a different matter) and id be willing to try and get a port of android working, if someone can extract the 3 img files in the android sdk as ive not managed to do that yet ? anyone want to try and help or am i talking of a lost cause
ok, ill post this incase anyone is watching. i made some progress getting andriod running but i keep getting seg fault tryingto run it, any1 who could provide insight let me know pelase
Unfortunately I can't help you but I'll be keeping a VERY close eye on this thread!
Good luck, I'm sure there are a whole load of people who'd buy you a beer if you succeed.
Steve
glad to see someones watching . ill have another play around over weekend see what i can come up with
it will be interesting to see how android works on BA keep up with the good work
Nice.
I like my BA and I don't wont to change it until an open linux mobile is avaible (an open Iphone could be great).
Maybe a sub-forum called "Blue angel linux" could help.
I'm bored or a problem with the actual BA linux is the acces to the wifi chipset?
And this seems noise. And I don't want to pay for having linux on my BA!
http://www.a-la-mobile.com/news/press/pr080114.html
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I'm bored or a problem with the actual BA linux is the acces to the wifi chipset?
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Not the access, but a nice gui/setup.
remember linux is designed primarily for people who know what their doing. yes theirs guis now which help but you stil need command line to use linux properly. except on the iPhone and android from what ive seen
actually there was an earlier thread regarding android. and with 921+ adding 200+ views here, We bet there are people that are REALLY interested porting this.
hope we get it up and running.
anything for our BA.
even alternatives to WM6 are welcome.
well im not having a lot of look, it seems to be segfaulting pretty much constantly. think its down to the busybox shell though so im going to find a newer one and try that later, does anyone know what version of the arm feature set the BA uses. (because from reading http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/21/android-neo1973) android only seems to work on devices using ARMv5 featureset. whatever that means)
UPDATE: thats not a problem, the pxa263 in the BA is ARMv5TE so thats ok - gotta love wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale)
Further update: ok been reading up a bit more and im doing the risky thing of building my own kernel for android see if i can get round these damn segfaults
ok just thought id post up so people done think ive given up here . still havign issues compiling the linux kernel with the android addidtions. mainly because i ahvent got a proper linux machine at home (only virtual pc on this computer)...dont suppose anyone uses linux and has a decent knownledge of compiling kernels on here ??
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ok just thought id post up so people done think ive given up here . still havign issues compiling the linux kernel with the android addidtions. mainly because i ahvent got a proper linux machine at home (only virtual pc on this computer)...dont suppose anyone uses linux and has a decent knownledge of compiling kernels on here ??
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I've compiled kernels under Linux before, but not for an embedded system like the angel's.
Where did you get the tarballs for everything? And what distro of Linux did you install?
Really, real machine vs virtual machine, in this case, shouldn't matter. It might, but shouldn't.
not so much the fact im using a virtual machine, its the fact im only on a 2mb connection so downloading linux cd images takes ages and since debian is the only distro ive seen which has arm crosscompile tools that work that means 2 dvds or 9+cd images. most of the tarballs ive had to rip direct from the android sdk emulator. i could host them somewhere if someone wants to try and help me out getting a kernel running - after that i think most of android should fall into place on its own, but getting openbinder support in the kernels proving difficult
EDIT/UPDATE: ok just tried installing the arm crosscompiliers on my development dedicated server and it seems to be compiling a kernel as i type (hopefully) so looks to be some progress happening here
Been following your thread with interest.
I should be getting a new PDA from work, so then I could take the risk of bricking my trusty and battered Blue Angel.
Any chance you could post some links to the various bits you are using? Not a step by step (unless you have the time) but the starting points so others can attempt to duplicate your efforts in parallel?
Good luck - I'm rooting for you!
ok, im just tarballing up the files on my webserver now, didnt have any success with kernel, looks like im going to have to take the blueangel drivers etc from the kernel posted on handhelds.org and manually merge the config files into the android kernel image to get it to compile. unless anyone can suggest a way to do that easily (windows or linux routine i dont mind)
the main sites ive used to help out ive listed below
http://benno.id.au/blog/ << somewhere on their theirs a link to the android root filesystem image. (http://benno.id.au/android/system.tar.gz and http://benno.id.au/android/data.tar.gz)
http://nemustech.blogspot.com/2007/12/android-porting-to-real-target-hw.html
http://euedge.com/blog/2007/12/06/google-android-runs-on-sharp-zaurus-sl-c760/
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelKernel
the three above above links help even though their not scriptly related to android on blueangel
the rest of the files are in http://radiodmp.net/android-files/ - the 365mb file contains the 2 arm cross compilers and also both the newest blueangel linux kernel and the android kernel - as said above these need merging (android kernel needs to be the one that is the final kernel as its newer i believe
edit: ive just put the system and data tars linked above into the folder on my server also to save people time.
hope that helps
if anyone wants any help drop me a message and ill try and help out. will of course keep trying to sort it myself too
Any update on this?
Actively watching this thread and just wanted to know. I'd love to be able to play with Android.
good to see ppl interested. ive not had time to try and merge the kernels yet, hopefulyl might get chance this week
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good to see ppl interested.
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Still watching, still interested!
Keep it up.
Steve
ok managed to hack together the two kernels, compiling it as i type - hopefully it'll workon my BA
Before I begin, let me explain.
I checked links in the sticky in the Dev thread, but the links are all broken, and multiple issues have been reported.
When I still had my G1, I made it the ultimate nerd machine. I was able to get Debian on it, including AndroidVNC and LXDE, all thanks to JesusFreke's RC33 modded firmware.
Of course 2.5 years later, times changed. security was amped up, etc.
I LOVE Ubuntu (makes me wonder why I stuck with Micro$oft Window$ for the last five years) Can anyone please direct me to a tutorial optimized for the G2/Desire Z/etc. where the links aren't broken?
On a side note, can anyone tell me where I can find a tutorial to install adb/AndroidSDK on my netbook (on Ubuntu 10.10)? I'm tired of having to use Window$ just to make use of adb.
All help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you for your time,
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teh5abiking
for installing the SDK on Ubuntu...
teh5abiking said:
Before I begin, let me explain.
I checked links in the sticky in the Dev thread, but the links are all broken, and multiple issues have been reported.
When I still had my G1, I made it the ultimate nerd machine. I was able to get Debian on it, including AndroidVNC and LXDE, all thanks to JesusFreke's RC33 modded firmware.
Of course 2.5 years later, times changed. security was amped up, etc.
I LOVE Ubuntu (makes me wonder why I stuck with Micro$oft Window$ for the last five years) Can anyone please direct me to a tutorial optimized for the G2/Desire Z/etc. where the links aren't broken?
On a side note, can anyone tell me where I can find a tutorial to install adb/AndroidSDK on my netbook (on Ubuntu 10.10)? I'm tired of having to use Window$ just to make use of adb.
All help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you for your time,
-
teh5abiking
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Take a look here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK
I used this and have everything working as expected. I even did the setup under Oracle's VM VirtualBox in my Win7 setup. Flawless.
Tommy.
teh5abiking said:
Before I begin, let me explain.
I checked links in the sticky in the Dev thread, but the links are all broken, and multiple issues have been reported.
When I still had my G1, I made it the ultimate nerd machine. I was able to get Debian on it, including AndroidVNC and LXDE, all thanks to JesusFreke's RC33 modded firmware.
Of course 2.5 years later, times changed. security was amped up, etc.
I LOVE Ubuntu (makes me wonder why I stuck with Micro$oft Window$ for the last five years) Can anyone please direct me to a tutorial optimized for the G2/Desire Z/etc. where the links aren't broken?
On a side note, can anyone tell me where I can find a tutorial to install adb/AndroidSDK on my netbook (on Ubuntu 10.10)? I'm tired of having to use Window$ just to make use of adb.
All help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you for your time,
-
teh5abiking
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I gave up on trying to run a permanent Ubuntu image on my phone. It's not that the hack doesn't work, it's that it only works once. I'm still having a fun time showing off my Gingerbread-fueled G2 to the coworkers still on stock Froyo (and then offer to root and upgrade it in exchange for money).
I am a new owner of an Acer a100(16GB) (currently 1.018.05_COM_GEN2) Android v3.2 and wanted to introduce my self and offer my assistance with A100 development in any way.
I'm an Android noob, but I use Linux and have done some shell scripting(Perl, Bash, Sed, Awk, a little javascript), and I am in the process of learning Java. I have also modded other devices before like PS2, PSP. So I am looking forward to learning more about Android and since I have an a100 this seems like a good place to spend some time.
So far I have just rooted my device via the Terminal Emulator method(I do have Eclipse IDE with Android SDK, ADT installed and working and should be setup help compile), got superuser, busybox, titanium, Avast installed. I also made a backup of my recovery image with dd in a shell, and did the AND to WIN hex edit(w/ Bless) of libflashplayer.so for Flash 11 so I can watch hulu, etc via Dolfin HD. I also made a Bash(run via Terminal IDE) script to re-apply the modified file after a shutdown which for now I have installed into /data/data/com.spartacusrex.spartacuside/files/bin (aka: ~/bin).
I will probably post my hulu script and lib file with some instructions later. It's basic but effective script that does some file checks and error correcting before it catenates the source file and redirects to destination. Later I may add a few more checks like making sure its running as superuser, and some post file mod checks.
Im still trying to figure out what else we can do, and how to do various things within Android at this point. So far its a fun little setup.
I wanted to say THANKS to everyone here. This place is a great resource. Special thanks to everyone that has been working on the Development end. I look forward to trying to make my self useful.
Welcome Hope you enjoy this device as much as I do.
As far as helping development, you should really check out the bypassing the bootloader thread in this forum, that's where the brainstorming is taking place atm.
Yes, we are *trying* to bypass the bootloader somehow, Crossix is getting a working kernal going while others are looking into methods of applying a work around. Your help will be much appreciated. Welcome to the Forums, and as stated above, the A100 is a great device that has a lot going for it if we can get some work done on it.
As far as helping development, you should really check out the bypassing the bootloader thread in this forum, that's where the brainstorming is taking place atm.
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Yep I have been reading it and looking around trying to get an idea of what the typical solutions/workarounds are used on other Android devices.
I don't think I have access yet to the developer area yet.
Welcome to the a100 forums, it's always nice to have another dev working on this thing!
Development forums require 10 posts to be able to use them, so just remain active in general/QA and you'll have access in no time.
Congrats on your New Tab
Hey team,
I'm very new to working with smart phone bootloaders and flashing different ROM's. Currently I have only ever played with ADB a little bit, have never come close to flashing another ROM/firmware, let alone rooting.
Here's the thing, is that I've very interested in running a couple operating systems on my S7 Active, however it seems that if I am on Oreo, this process becomes much more difficult.
I come here for 2 reasons, first is that I need points to ask questions in other forums. I figure here is the best place to start on getting answers and where to look for information.
My second reason is so that I may get some help / information on how to get my S7 Active set up for using at least 2 operating systems - Regular Oreo, as well as Android's PostMarketOS. I am a new user, so I cannot post a link, however you can find it at reddit r/PostMarketOS. I am fully aware that I will likely need to build my own version of PostMarketOS. I'm not here for help with this, so much as I am here for getting help to prepare my S7 Active for this process.
So, I suppose to start, my questions are as follows:
1. Am I stuck with Oreo?
2. While I have unlocked OEM in developer settings, I feel that there's more to unlocking the bootloader - is there information for Oreo on how to do this?
3.I understand that there is root for Android N (7.0), however I have read that you cannot downgrade to (7.0). Furthermore, I am not sure if this would even be necessary.
To give a bit more information, to create the PostMarketOS for Android, it must be created using Linux, and I have a link to post, however I am a new user, the guide for creating PostMarketOS is on the sidebar of Reddit.
Hopefully I can get some help, but I would be happy with just some resources on where to go about starting/finding information. I'm a total noob in this regard, but I am a quick learner and motivated to get my S7 Active to not run so laggy... Plus it would be fun to use 2 operating systems
If you need any other information, I'm happy to find and give it.